Phillies Offseason Talk

[SD_Eagle5]

I'd do Abreu for Prior in a heartbeat. Hell I'd even throw in a marginal prospect or two to get it done. Trading a 31 year old RF for a 25 year old future Cy Young winner is worth the gamble.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'd do Abreu for Prior in a heartbeat. Hell I'd even throw in a marginal prospect or two to get it done. Trading a 31 year old RF for a 25 year old future Cy Young winner is worth the gamble.

If they knew that for a fact, it wouldn't be much of a gamble.

[MDS]

looks like i was probably wrong, again: from newsday

While the cost-cutting Marlins still are refusing to lower their asking price of Robinson Cano for Juan Pierre, they have begun to tell teams that every player on their roster - including Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera - is available for the right price.

lineup boners. i have lineup boners.

willis, lieber, myers, lidle, who cares
or
rollins, utley, cabrera, abreu, burrell, howard, rowand, loserthal

boners.

[PhillyGirl]

I think I just fainted.

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Dontrelle Willis. I HATE, HATE, HATE him as a Marlin, but the guy is just so much fun you can't hate him. I love watching his interviews and seeing him out and about on camera. And of course, he's a farging ACE.

If Gillick could get him here, I'd start a petition to get a statue of him bronzed outside of the Park.

[MDS]

It would take a lot, definatley. Like Hammels and Floyd a lot. But Floyd sucks and Hammels hasnt pitched a full season in like 3 years of being a Phillie. And Willis is young and a freakin Cy Young winner, so um, I would do it. But again, the Marlins would probably need to be swept off their feet to trade both guys. If they go, that team they have might not win 30 games or draw 500,000 fans.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I can't think of too many things the Marlins would ask for in return for Willis that I wouldn't be willing to give.

He's exactly what this team needs for 2006 and beyond.

[PhillyGirl]

If they asked for Utley or Howard I'd say no.

But anyone else they can have.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

If they asked for Utley or Howard I'd say no.

But anyone else they can have.

Right.  I said I can't think of "too many things".  I didn't say "I can't think of anything".  Big difference.

Let's just ship them Victorino, Abreu, and Hamels or Floyd and be done with it.  That should do it.  Maybe.
We could always throw in DaBell or Lieby to sweeten the pot.  Ha!

[Wingspan]

If they asked for Utley or Howard I'd say no.

But anyone else they can have.

i would trade utely or howard (not both) for dontrelle willis. no doubt about it.

take out the sentimental value of howard or utley....it's a no brainer.

[PhillyGirl]

LOL, I know. I was just sayin'. 

[SunMo]

Prior For Abreu: Forget It

One of the hot rumors at the moment is that the Cubs "didn't say no" when the Phillies asked for Mark Prior in return for Bobby Abreu.  This Philadelphia Daily News article only fueled the fire, adding that the Cubs would consider dealing Carlos Zambrano if not Prior.

Hopefully putting the rumor to bed, Bruce Levine quoted Jim Hendry recently on ESPN Radio 1000 as saying Prior for Abreu is not an option.  According to Levine, Carlos Zambrano is off the table as well.

While the Cubs need a shakeup and Abreu is a star, dealing one of their young, cheap ace pitchers isn't the solution.  Prior had home run and walk problems in 2005.  Add in some injury concerns, and his value may be at an all-time low.  Given his career 10.5 K/9 mark over 613 innings, Prior still has the chance to take back his spot as one of the best pitchers in the league.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The fact that Prior isn't available only fuels my hopes for Dontrelle.

[PhillyGirl]

The fact that Prior isn't available only fuels my hopes for Dontrelle.

Ditto.

[MDS]

they dont want abreu. hes older, has a fntc and wouldnt accept a trade to a team that stinks and most of all has 30 mil coming his way the next two years.

they also dont want howard, or would have to give us mike jacobs in return.

utley for willis....lets hold out for 2 more days as the yankees will give rob cano for pierre (imagine if wade was still around, there is no doubt in my mind he would give up the farm for pierre). then utley becomes of no use to them.

take any of those pitchers, bourn or roberson...whatever. if they are interested in trading willis, get on the ball right now before someone else does.

[SD_Eagle5]

There's zero chance of us landing Willis. No way the Marlins ship him here and if they did we'd have to part ways with a combination of Utley/Howard/Hammels/Floyd. No way Gillick ships Howard off after he traded Thome. The Marlins are trying to cut payroll so they're not going to take an Abreu or Burrell.

Sucks Prior is an untouchable, I'd of shipped Bobby ass out of here in a heartbeat to land him.