And How Does that Make you Feel?

Reidme · December 06, 2005, 11:05:38 AM

I have been fairly complacent of late, meaning the last few seasons. Mainly because despite my disagreement with some decisions, I could not argue with the results. I qualify what I am about to say by stating clearly, I am an Eagles fan, not a McNabb fan, a TO fan, a Banner fan, Lurie fan, or Reid fan.

Andy Reid has accomplished some amazing things, but has allowed some cardinal sins to occur under his watch. He will almost certainly never be embraced by fans, nor even hated by fans as much as Vermeil or Ryan. Why? He doesn't get it. Stay the course, my responsibility, blah, blah, blah. I have never been hurt as much as a fan as I have under this regime. If we start with the closing game at the Vet, tack on the opener at the Linc, and mix in the loss to the Panthers, you have a recipe for discontent. Follow it up with this season's sweep by Dallas, and two embarrassing losses on national TV, they wipe out or at least neutralize any goodwill that was generated by the SuperBowl appearance.

I'm gonna say it, it has to be said, and you can crucify me if you want to. I don't need a banner of Reggie White on the Eagles nest any more than I need a mural of my ex wife on my livingroom wall. It will remind me of unfullfilled promises, broken dreams, boneheaded decisions, tragic loss, and a horrific MNF game. I luved me sum Reggie when he spilled his blood for the Eagles, game in and out. And his painfull tour of the league was started by the fact he didn't even receive an offer here. I luved seeing Buddy, Seth, Randall, Clyde, Keith, Arkansas, Wes, and KJ. Retire the number and leave it in the Memorial area. I'd rather see a mural of Andre Waters myself. Or better yet, tear down all those fancy french wall hangings and spend the money on players.

Every time they have one of those overblown, "look at what a world class organization we are" presentations, you can almost feel that the game itself was an afterthought. Next time they ask me to remain seated or turn my attention to the video screen, I might as well puke and head home early, rather than have some well coreographed video CT set me up for gutwrenching set of blueballs.

You could almost see Christina Luries look of disgust and Jeff's discomfort while reading that well prepared speech. It was a beautiful gesture, and the setting was awe inspiring, but the best tribute would have been an onfield effort that reminded us of what hard nosed passionate football was all about.

That team was unmotivated, and il prepared. They quit. I can understand a less than talented team, or an occassional letdown, but this team has packed it in. I will leave the Xs & Os to the more knowledgeable, but we all can see that both lines suck, and there are no downfield threats. Without push or pressure, all the rest falls apart. I can stomach a bad season, but to listen to blurbs that still are dealing with TO, seeking his signing bonus back, grievances against other owners, and making me wait thru that atroscity to see that overdone crap? Let Andre, Seth, Buddy, and his wife make brief statements, show his highlights, and skip the banner & Lurie (no pun intended). Most of all, give us a game.

Can you name the biggest joke of a team right now in the NFL? I don't know what you are thinking, but it aint the Vikings anymore. Don't tell me about injuries either. I'm still wearing my Eagles gear, and dealing with idiots, but I aint happy. And if you are, theres something wrong.

henchmanUK · December 06, 2005, 11:09:34 AM

You should probably change your sig.

Wingspan · December 06, 2005, 11:10:50 AM

i cuncur. completely.

right now this team is an embarassment and a parody of itself.

this team, as currently constructed has no heart, no emotion, and no desire. and thats a direct reflection of the front office, in my opinion.

PhillyGirl · December 06, 2005, 11:12:25 AM

Thank God this board wasn't around when the team was 3-13.

It would have like 20 posters.

If you can't deal with a losing season, get lost.

In the words of RJS....'WAH'

That's how I feel.

fansince61 · December 06, 2005, 11:15:21 AM

Great post Reidme...Something is very wrong with this years Birds team...front office attitude, complacent coaching and poor drafting come to mind

SunMo · December 06, 2005, 11:18:08 AM

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 11:12:25 AM
If you can't deal with a losing season, get lost.

In the words of RJS....'WAH'

you don't understand the frustration? this was supposed to be a Super Bowl year and this organization has fallen flat on it's face.

people who are bailing on them should be shot. but the real fans have a right to be upset with the team about this year. it's not just a down year, it's an embarassment of a year.

PhillyGirl · December 06, 2005, 11:19:10 AM

Oh, and before some of you (undoubtedly) start calling me a homer and whatever else, I have something else to say.

Yes, there are things the FO has done wrong. Yes, there are things that need to be fixed. But you think this team just got put together by itself? Were the last 5-6 years an aberration or did you sleep through them?

If you can't think that the problems will be addressed over the offseason and afterwards, you must have just dozed off and missed the last few years or your memory is pretty farging distorted.

One bad season doesn't make a zesty team/front office/organization.

But one bad season sure does show the fans that will jump ship.

BigEd76 · December 06, 2005, 11:20:48 AM

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 11:12:25 AMIf you can't deal with a losing season, get lost.

In the words of RJS....'WAH'

I can deal with one losing season in 6 years. That doesn't make it acceptable....

Tomahawk · December 06, 2005, 11:21:25 AM

Quit being such a homer and whatever else, PhillyGirl.

This is worse than the 3-13 season because I've been spoiled for the past four years.

MURP · December 06, 2005, 11:27:52 AM

nice post Reidme.

PhillyGirl · December 06, 2005, 11:28:30 AM

SunMo...I am as frustrated as anyone else. I am a lifetime, die-hard fan and season ticket holder. You think this is enjoyable to watch for ME?

But to discount the injuries to the team (McNabb especially!) and the TO thing is ridiculous. ITs a zesty year, it sucks and I Hate watching MY team look like shtein out there every week.

HOWEVER, if you want to start slamming the FO and the entire organization for ONE SEASON after (As T-Hawk said) they SPOILED YOU ROTTEN for the last 5 years, you're crazy.

Reidme's post reeks of jumping ship. And honestly? I could care less. Real fans can start to get tickets again.

MURP · December 06, 2005, 11:30:53 AM

obviously Reidme isnt jumping ship. He is voicing frustration and makes several good points.

henchmanUK · December 06, 2005, 11:33:36 AM

The reason why the Buddy team was so revered was because they were the first decent Eagles team in ages, but Andy's team have achieved more.

Wingspan · December 06, 2005, 11:35:23 AM

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 11:28:30 AM
HOWEVER, if you want to start slamming the FO and the entire organization for ONE SEASON after (As T-Hawk said) they SPOILED YOU ROTTEN for the last 5 years, you're crazy.

Reidme's post reeks of jumping ship. And honestly? I could care less. Real fans can start to get tickets again.

bull...spoiled rotten would be the patriots who've won 3 of 4 superbowls.

instead its 5 or 6 years of losing 1 big game after another when it matters most, which seems to be glossed over and ignored by the front office. and it's reflected on the field.

you have no right to question how good a fan someone is. season tickets or not, no one cares. people want to see them win. we all realize the teams of the late 80's and early 90's even though they never won, they also never quit. the eagles, this season, have QUIT.

Reidme · December 06, 2005, 11:36:01 AM

Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 11:12:25 AM
Thank God this board wasn't around when the team was 3-13.

It would have like 20 posters.

If you can't deal with a losing season, get lost.

That's how I feel.

PG, sometimes you read a post and simply see what you want to see. People, especially fans who care, are allowed to have feelings and opinions. I for one enjoy things and usually read posts when everything is fine. If I am unhappy, I tend to speak up. I don't remember if there was an Eagles board when we were 3-13, but I imagine I'd post alot more at 3-13 than at 13-3.

I can deal with a losing season, and I can get my azz down to the Linc in the snow towing two kids, walking 10 blocks, and rolling under a locked gate in the slush. I can scream so much I lost my voice as of this morning. And if you tell me I am not a fan and I should leave because I am not happy today ... then I have to disagree. I have no right to tell you how to feel or how to deal with things, but I can tell you that today, this is the way I feel. I am not rooting for them to lose, I am not calling for a players, owners, or coaches head. I am simply saying that there are some things that bother me about their overall appraoch. They have given us alot as fans, but yet they seem to miss the mark badly at times. I have a general feeling that you consider the ownership and their decisions part and parcel with being a fan of the team, which is your right. And I think you have the ability to toss me from the board for my opinions, which you may feel free to do. And if I am passing thru the WC before a game, which I usually try and do, I'll still stop and say hello, and say to whoever I'm with "that's PG, she's a HUGE Eagles fan". You can feel free to tell whoever your with "thats Mike, he's a fair weather bandwagon guy" ... then we both can go into the game to watch our team, and I doubt that either one of us will give a second thought to what the other thinks.

I like this board, and I love the Eagles. I don't always agree with either.