Grievance Hearing Thread

[Father Demon]

What's the link to the full ruling?

[bobbyinlondon]

What's the link to the full ruling?

http://www.profootballtalk.com

Take some NO-DOZE.

[mcnabbmvp]

farg YOU TO!! 

U GT WHT U DSRVD BTCH!! 

TO I mean ESPN radio has been shredding him to bits  Sal Pal called in from the Eagles locker room and said it looked like the players were really relieved that they can put this nonsense behind him. At one point you could hear Hollis in the background cheering  Sheldon Brown's supposed to be on soon. 

SUPERBOWL BABY!!

[PhillyPhreak54]

Thanks for the link, Bobby. This is some good stuff to read. Maybe the jagoffs at WIP should ge a hold of this before they start ripping on the team again.

As for the TO decision....meh.

[rjs246]

farg TO. This is almost as satisfying as hearing the the team had suspended him. farg him. I hope he rots.

[PhillyGirl]

This decision is great. I wish someone would flog the Newsday "reporter".

Gee, and people wonder why I never believe shtein like that?

To those who get all bent when I doubt "sources"....bite me.

[PhillyGirl]

NFLPA wants to have Bloch dismissed 

(Updated story from before)

WAHHHHH WAHHHHH.

STFU.

[Rome]

Wow... does this photo pretty well sum up his entire 2005 season?

What a farging waste.

[PhillyGirl]

They've been using that pic on ESPN since day one of this disaster.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Some highlights:

Rosenhaus and Owens were unequivocal in letting the team know that Owens' happiness was tied toward renegotiating the contract.  Coach Andy Reid testified as to their communications to him:

[Drew and Terrell said]... that things weren't going to be pretty if he did come to camp.  Somewhere in there, you know, T.O. mentioned that he knew how I was wired and the discipline that I asked of the Players, and that I wouldn't be happy with what I saw.

Andy on the training camp autograph thing:

"I went up to him and he was in a corner area where there weren't any people around. ... I didn't want to put him on the spot in front of anybody.  I don't do that.  That's not my style.  I said hey, listen, I don't know if you've heard what I said, but you've got autographs today, it's Receiver's day up.  And he said I'm not going to do it."

Andy, via letter to TO, about TO lying about the medical waiver:

Lying about signing a non-existent waiver is certainly not constructive in terms of our relationship, and does not further anyone's goals.  Especially since the reality is that we bent over backwards to make you aware that we were more than willing to share the risk with you.

A long read, but it has some telling things in it.                   

[Rome]

Just goes to show how frequently I visit ESPN.com.

[Cerevant]

Thanks for the link - this is some great shtein!

The Association argues that, to the extent the Coach wished to keep the Player from the fields or the locker room, he should have released him.  It is a mark of the highly unusual nature of this case that this should be regarded not only as not disciplinary, but as the desired goal of the Player and his representatives.  More to the point, while releasing the Player is an available option, it is not a mandatory one.

[PhillyPhreak54]

The NFLPA is whining like sissybishes:

The players' association responded by saying it intended to dismiss Bloch, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported.

"One thing I can control is that he will no longer be an arbitrator in any more of our cases," NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw told Mortonson. "Under the CBA, either side has a right between Dec. 1 and Dec. 10 to dismiss an arbitrator and we are going to dismiss this one."

"We are obviously very disappointed with Arbitrator Bloch's decision," players' union general counsel Richard Berthelsen said in a statement. "His ruling ... ignores the obligation a club has to either provide employment to a player or allow him to play somewhere else. We are confident that we put in a winning case at the hearing last Friday, and we still believe Terrell Owens had a right to a legitimate reinstatement."

P.S.  Your vote counts!

1) Do you agree with the arbitrator's decision to uphold Terrell Owens' suspension?


86.1% Yes

13.9% No


2) Will Owens ever play another game for the Eagles?


97.7% No

2.3% Yes


3) When will Owens play his next game in the NFL?


92.1% Next season

4.8% This season

3.1% Never


4) What do you think the Eagles should do with Owens at the conclusion of his suspension?


58.3% Deactivate him for the remainder of the season

34.5% Release him and move on

3.8% Deactivate him but leave open the possibility of return if he behaves

3.4% Accept his apology and activate him following the suspension


5) If the Eagles released Owens, which team with a top waiver claim would be the best fit for him?


42.4% None of these teams

16.0% Green Bay Packers

9.2% Miami Dolphins

6.8% Houston Texans

6.7% Baltimore Ravens

5.0% New York Jets

4.2% New Orleans Saints

4.1% Arizona Cardinals

3.0% Tennessee Titans

2.6% San Francisco 49ers


6) Would Owens be worth the risk to a contending team in need of more offense?


52.1% No

47.9% Yes


7) Do you think Owens would still be an active member of the Eagles if Donovan McNabb had been healthy this season?


78.9% No

21.1% Yes


What has been the biggest cause of Philadelphia's lack of success this season?


36.1% Injury that limited and eventually sidelined McNabb

33.2% Distractions and chemistry issues caused by Owens

15.7% Andy Reid's unwillingness to run the ball

14.9% Defense not playing up to potential/reputation


9) Who deserves the most blame for the way the Terrell Owens saga unfolded in Philadelphia?


77.9% Owens

17.6% They deserve equal blame

4.6% Eagles


10) Is this season a bump in the road for the Eagles or the beginning of the end for their run of success?


51.9% Beginning of the end

48.1% Bump in the road


Total Votes: 52,751

[Rome]

Oh, My...

[PhillyGirl]

Phreak, I already posted the article about them wanting Bloch gone....like 5 posts before yours. LOL