Grammar School

Started by Cerevant, November 03, 2005, 10:41:47 AM

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Irregardless  :boom, NucUlar  :boom :boom, yous/youns/yins   :boom :boom :boom
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T_Section224

for the record, is 'alls' a word?  it's ok for phreak to use it, after all he did a stint in texas, but for regular philly folks is it ok?
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All's is a contraction (all is).  And the proper Southern expression is Yalls (as in you all).
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T_Section224

how about the following statement:

alls i know is that cat is cool.

is that proper?
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Diomedes

Quote from: Wingspan on November 03, 2005, 12:00:51 PMwhich by the way state that both are correct.

Both are considered correct only because the brutes have forced the change by persistent mis-use.  That's the way language goes.  It's a constant low-grade war for the minds of humanity between those who would retain distininctions and those who would discard them.  The former are snobs to the latter, who are--as a matter of demonstrable fact--ignorant and uneducated.
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Diomedes

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"Irregardless" is a fine example of what I'm saying.  It is a word, make no mistake about it.  But it is one that had become archaic.  But recently, the word has been re-vitalized by uneducated people who are trying to say "regardless," but are too ignorant to say it correctly.  In a pathetic attempt to sound like they know what they're saying, they add "Ir-" to the word, and are unknowingly correct.

People suck. Here's proof:

Everyday I hear someone say "let's be pro-active."  Pro means active.  It's a redundancy, and a lousy faddish term that should be avoided. 

People say or write "remaining balance" all the time, or even "remaining balance left."  Duh.  Drives me nuts.  I usually tell whoever said that they should say "remaining balance still left," just to really beat the idea in.

Another fave:  "Well my personal opinion is..."  No need for the word "personal" there.  Your opinion is already yours; you don't have to make is special to you by calling it personal.
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Cerevant

Quote from: Diomedes on November 03, 2005, 12:42:06 PM
Another fave:  "Well my personal opinion is..."  No need for the word "personal" there.  Your opinion is already yours; you don't have to make is special to you by calling it personal.
Hmm...but there may be a use for such a distinction in this world of ignorance.  Since few people actually think for themselves, it is not always obvious...

"In my opinion (that came from Bush), gay marriage should be illegal."
"In my opinion (that came from Eskin), Andy Reid is an infallable god"
"In my personal opinion, I have no clue what I'm talking about"

If we could just get them to reference the source when they aren't citing their personal opinion...
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Wingspan

Quote from: Cerevant on November 03, 2005, 12:51:22 PM
"In my personal opinion, I have no clue what I'm talking about"

seems to me that that is not a opinion, rather a fact.
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shorebird

Quote from: Cerevant on November 03, 2005, 10:41:47 AM
Here's a place for the grammar, spelling and word choice (my personal peeve) Nazis to gather and educate the unwashed masses. Let me begin the lessons:

your = belongs to you. "Get your head out of your ass."
you're = you are. "You're stupid."

resign = to quit, to leave one's job or position. "Mike Tice resigned from the Vikings."
= to accept as inevitable. "We are simply resigned to the fact that Andy Reid will never call another running play."
re-sign = to sign again. "Reno Mahe re-signed with the Eagles."

could have = "I could have won 30 dollars if I bet against the spread"
could've = contraction of could have "I could've won as well, but I never bet against the Birds"
could of = "I had taken all I could of T.O.'s bullshtein"


You might as well be quoting one of my post. By the way, Nazis is a noun, and should be capitalized, butthead.

Cerevant

Quote from: shorebird on November 03, 2005, 01:16:57 PM
By the way, Nazis is a proper noun, and should be capitalized, butthead.
Thanks  :P
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

shorebird

Quote from: Cerevant on November 03, 2005, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 03, 2005, 01:16:57 PM
By the way, Nazis is a proper noun, and should be capitalized, butthead.
Thanks :P

Oh well, I was close.

shorebird

Really though, I'm not that dumb that I don't know I could use some ejumukashon in spelling and grammar. I have to pay a lawyer to proof read my contracts when they deviate from the normal one he wrote for me way back when, to make shore they are worded correctly and I don't get ripped off if I ever have to go to court.

So have at it, maybe I'll learn something...........maybe.

shorebird

Quote from: Diomedes on November 03, 2005, 12:42:06 PM
"Irregardless" is a fine example of what I'm saying.  It is a word, make no mistake about it.  But it is one that had become archaic.  But recently, the word has been re-vitalized by uneducated people who are trying to say "regardless," but are too ignorant to say it correctly.  In a pathetic attempt to sound like they know what they're saying, they add "Ir-" to the word, and are unknowingly correct.

People suck. Here's proof:

Everyday I hear someone say "let's be pro-active."  Pro means active.  It's a redundancy, and a lousy faddish term that should be avoided. 

People say or write "remaining balance" all the time, or even "remaining balance left."  Duh.  Drives me nuts.  I usually tell whoever said that they should say "remaining balance still left," just to really beat the idea in.

Another fave:  "Well my personal opinion is..."  No need for the word "personal" there.  Your opinion is already yours; you don't have to make is special to you by calling it personal.

If your so good at grammar then why is your post edited?

Diomedes

Quote from: shorebird on November 03, 2005, 01:34:30 PMIf your so good at grammar then why is your post edited?

Oh, snap!! 

Because I'm good enough to see the errors I make and correct them.  Now go back to the beginning of this thread and read again, particularly the parts about the difference between "your" and "you're."
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger