Some Post Game Thoughts

[T_Section224]

my morning after post-game thoughts are this:

i have one hell of a headache

other then that, first half i was drinking silly to console myself, the second half drinking in celebration.

[Rome]

Another thought: Budweiser Select produces no hangover whatsoever.  It's amazing.  I watched the entire Phillies and Eagles games and drank 10 of those things and I don't even have a whiff of a hangover.

Budweiser Select rules.

And the Chiefs fans are still punks.

[PhillyPhreak54]

id like to give propers to jj for adjusting the defense...chiefs intention at the start was to run to the outside with toss sweeps so to stay away from trotter and abuse the eagles olb's (who by the way suck)...jj made a change and widened out the ends...he also would bring an olb to the line of scrimmage...sometimes only playing two backers and 5-6 'lineman'...great maneuver

Didinger made a good point about the Eagles defensive adjustments...he noted that early on the Eagles LBs were playing deeper behind the LOS because JJ was worried about Tony Gonzalez getting out into coverage.

He said that JJ then decided to have the LBs play at their normal depth and that is when they started shutting down the run.

The defense also started to pinch the corners of the defense and funnel everything inside, lik eyou mentioned.

In one defensive alignment on the goalline JJ had all 4 DTs in there and no DEs

[PhillyPhreak54]

My postgame thoughts are:
- if AR doesn't start calling some goddamned running plays I'm going to pull my hair out.
- is it just me or is McNabb starting to form some TO tunnel-vision.
- could TO drop some more passes? I know that's part of what he does, but seriously, some of those drops were a farging joke.
- our special teams could not suck any more than they do right now. top to bottom. awful.
- did I mention that if AR doens't call some running plays I'm going to murder my dog?
- our secondary is sick.
- our d-line CAN BE sick from time to time.
- McNabb is rather awesome in spite of his occasional TO tunnel-vision. If my groin was leaking intestines I probably wouldn't be throwing for 300+ every week. Probably.
- Frenchy obviously looked like bung early, but pulled it together and had a nice game overall. Having said that, our STs still eat ass and he is going to make me nervous every time he's in the game.

It is a futile effort to continue to want the ball run more. Time for us to accept that Andy is going to throw, throw, throw.

TO only has 2 drops on the season...that one yesterday was big.

TO also leads the NFL in times targeted by his QB with 59. But when something is working, you keep going to it.

[Rome]

I accepted the fact that their running game sucks years ago.  I also accepted the fact that Andy will throw 2 times for every 1 time he runs the ball.

Once you've accepted these facts, it makes watching the team much more enjoyable and much less stressful.

[PhillyGirl]

Ray Didinger also made another comment last night. He said that the Eagles run game isn't the traditional run game (I think Aikman said this during the game too). That little dump passes and screen passes and draw plays...THAT is what the Eagles use as a run game. Easy "passes" for McNabb and then the RB does the work.

[rjs246]

How many catched does TO have? 32? And he's been targeted 59 times. That's 54%. That ain't good.


He may only have 2 official drops, but there was at least one other play where the ball hit him in the hands and clanged to the ground. The dude is sick, obviously, and obviously my hatred for him does not overshadow his talent, but come on. This 'spreading the ball around' concept shouldn't include 1/3 of your attempts going to one guy who is only slightly better than 50% when targeted, I don't care how talented he is.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I don't have a problem with it.

When you throw it 184 times you're going to target people a lot. 59/184 = 32%

Not so bad when you look at it that way.

And if they only had 100 attempts and he was targeted 59 times? Then I would se your point.

[rjs246]

McNabb - 110 comp/174 att 63.2% comp. 1333 yds. 11 TDs
Owens - 32 catches 506 yards 4 TDs

McNabb (to anyone other than Owens) - 78/115, 67.8%, 827 yds, 7 TDs

I'm having trouble seeing why 1/3 of our passes should be directed at TO.

[MadMarchHare]

But the ratio wasn't 2:1 - it was closer to 4:1.  Yikes.

Not that the run game was working well at all yesterday....and KC basically decide not to cover TO for the entire 2nd half.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Because he's a playmaker. A true gamebreaking stud that we have lacked at the position since forever.

They still spread it around, but TO gets a lot of looks.

Ride him and ride him and keep going back to him if defenses are not stopping him. I'm having trouble seeing why you shouldn't continue to use your best asset in the passing game when he is wide open.

[Larry]

Didinger made a good point about the Eagles defensive adjustments...he noted that early on the Eagles LBs were playing deeper behind the LOS because JJ was worried about Tony Gonzalez getting out into coverage.

We dodged a bullet when Roaf and Welbourn couldn't play.  This forced KC to keep Gonzalez on the line to help block.

[rjs246]

I'm not suggesting that they should have gone away from him yesterday. I mean, the Chiefs weren't even covering his ass. What I'm saying is that if we're going to pass on 75%+ of our plays, targeting one player for a third of those passes is fine against zesty defenses, but when we run up against the taterskins D or the San Diego D tossing 20 balls at TO isn't going to work.

That's great that everyone considers the dink-dunk part of our passing attack to be our 'running game' but: no running attack + an obvious tendancy to send a HUGE portion of our passes at one dude = easy to game plan. Luckily, most of the coaches in the league don't have the schemes or the personel to stop the Eagles even though everyone knows what we're going to do, but the Pats found a way to effectively stop it in the SB and good defenses won't have any trouble understanding that if you stop the passing game you stop our offense.

[Larry]

But the ratio wasn't 2:1 - it was closer to 4:1.  Yikes.

Not that the run game was working well at all yesterday....and KC basically decide not to cover TO for the entire 2nd half.

I can hear Reid now: "When you hand  off, you take the ball out of the hands of our three biggest playmakers:  McNabb, Owens, and Westbrook's receiving."

[PhillyGirl]

Didinger made a good point about the Eagles defensive adjustments...he noted that early on the Eagles LBs were playing deeper behind the LOS because JJ was worried about Tony Gonzalez getting out into coverage.

We dodged a bullet when Roaf and Welbourn couldn't play.  This forced KC to keep Gonzalez on the line to help block.

And we had no Darwin Walker.

Welbourn is an afterthought. He had no bearing on the game.