Who Is The Back-Up RB If Buck Isn't Healthy?

Started by PhillyPhreak54, August 16, 2005, 01:22:59 PM

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Sgt PSN

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PhillyPhanInDC

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 24, 2005, 09:14:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:11:00 AM

If you watch Moats' highlights from LaTech you'll see that he has no trouble at all running betwen the tackles. Even Brad Childress sid that yesterday. He said that Moats will take it inside.

Just because he's 5'7/5'8 doesn't mean he cannot go inside, bro. He's got the leg drive, leverage and toughness to take it up in there.


I agree with what you are saying, but I don't think I see him being able to "pound" the ball between the tackles play after play to eat up clock. I'm sure he can do it, but I don't think that is A) the best way to use Moats or B) the reason he was drafted. One thing I like from what I've seen from Moats though, is how the defense seems to lose him when he is coming up the middle, hidding behind the tackles and guards....

But when has Reid ever pounded the ball to eat clock? We're talkin' 'bout Andy Reid here, man. The only time I remember him "pounding" the ball was when Donovan got hurt. And even then he didn't really pound it, just ran it a little more than normal. And maybe his first year as the Birds HC too.

He is a pass happy coach. Has been and always will be, man.

Not for one minute am I doubting Reid's pass first mentality. It works great, and it is exciting as hell. He means to end the game at half-time as Madden put it on MNF. But the thing I don't like is once we have a commanding lead, we don't have a way to really chew up a lot of clock. Running the ball inside with a good lead in fourth quarter makes the most sense, and I feel the Eagles need a more punishing back to do so. I am not saying I want to get away from being a pass first offense, but switch a bit with a lead towards the end of the game, and grind down the clock and opposing defenses.
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rjs246

Quote from: SSgt PSN on August 24, 2005, 09:42:34 AM
I'd like to have her taint bronzed and mounted on a plaque for future generations to enjoy.

I'll sign that petition.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Philly_Crew

Well, Buck is had season ending surgery.  Let's see if Perry and Moats can rise to the occasion.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Sun_Mo on August 24, 2005, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:27:11 AM
And he's been successful at throwing it around the field like crazy too. I could understand the whole "let's pound the rock more" theory if the Eagles weren't successful at throwing, but they are very good at the scheme they run.

yeah, but they could use a little more balance.  i think if they run the ball more during the season they would able to run out the clock in games later in the year.  if you remember last year, there were a couple games when they got the ball back with approx. 5 min left in the game and they would go 3 and out because they couldn't run.  and of course, there was the Super Bowl when the run game was pathetic, forcing McNabb to throw 50+ times and wearing him down for the end.

I'm not saying that I am opposed to them running the ball more. Hell, I was screaming like hell during the Carolina NFCCG for that to happen because it was so darn effective.

And I don't think the SB is a good example because they were forced to throw the ball since they got behind and the OL couldn't block the Pats. Actually, the OL's inability to block the Pats scheme was the real reason they did not have more success running the ball.

Would I like to see more running? At times, yes. But I am not going to suggest that they scrap the system that has been so great for them in order to go with something that may or may not work with the personnel they have this moment.

I loved Duce and how he ran the ball. I would like to see that type of running mixed in with the passing game, but if it isn't then I will be fine with it.

But we're getting way off topic here I think because regardless of if Buck was here or not - they were still going to throw the majority of the time. The loss of Correll isn't earth shattering.

Like I said earlier - Childress said that they re looking to get Westbrook more touches. So the #2 RB will see less than the 94 carries that Dorsey saw last year.

We need a guy to run it about 80 times this year, catch it, block and play STs.

Moats will also see some carries too.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2005, 09:49:39 AM
We need a guy to run it about 80 times this year, catch it, block and play STs.

Moats will also see some carries too.


Another problem with Moats will be his ability to pick up blitzes. It's always the hardest thing for rookie RBs to learn. Not taking anything away from Moats, but he'll need time before he is adept at reading defenses and picking up defenders.
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ice grillin you

Let's see if Perry and Moats can rise to the occasion.

if its even possible perry might be more injury prone than buck...wouldnt count on him for nothing

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Phanatic

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I think Moats is a little green, and he is the same type of back as Westbrook. C-Buck was our change of pace back. Maybe it's time to bring back Dorsey. Maybe there's another option out there. 3rd and 1 at the 1 yard line. Who's going to punch it in between the tackles?

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MadMarchHare

How about Spach or Ritchie?  Fullbacks are pretty big, and Spach played some in college.  Just saying....
Anyone but Reid.

Larry

QuoteWe need a guy to run it about 80 times this year, catch it, block and play STs.

This sounds like a job for.....Reno Mahe.  8)
More Mahe please.

RezRob

Quote from: Larry on August 24, 2005, 10:37:39 AM
QuoteWe need a guy to run it about 80 times this year, catch it, block and play STs.

This sounds like a job for.....Reno Mahe. 8)
You guys think Mahe will beat out Perry? I know Mahe is more versataile, and I know what Larry thinks  ;D I think Perrys size and strength should give him a shot of making the 53 man.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Mahe sucks so bad.  There HAS to be someone else that can catch a punt.

BobbyT

I wouldn't be sending anyone back to that Doc.
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ice grillin you

I think Perrys size and strength should give him a shot of making the 53 man.

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Larry

You knew things were bad for Buckhalter when the team didn't have any news on his condition on Monday.

At least we found out about this now rather than during the season.
More Mahe please.