Sixers Off-Season Thread

Started by PhillyPhreak54, May 04, 2005, 08:46:25 AM

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hunt

Quote from: TO is GOD on July 01, 2005, 09:37:17 PM
Mo won't be fired for at least 3 years, because if he fires Mo Billy is gone himself. That would be 4 coaches he went through.

Billy has been good at drafting. Iguodala, Green, and Korver. Once he took over as full GM he's been very good. I think he's earned some trust until he messes up. The bad picks were all Larry's idea.

iguodala was a lottery pick...he's supposed to be good.
green barely got off the bench last season.
and korver does one thing well.

let's not put king in the draft hall of fame yet...it's too convenient to say all the bad picks were larry's & all the good picks were king's.
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PhillyGirl

hunt, Obie never utilized his players correctly and you know it. So your post was a reach. A good coach would have had Green in there knowing what he brings and would have never been starting Korver.

If you can't admit that those 2 picks were tremendous for where they were picked, you're crazy.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

hunt

"tremendous"?...now that's a reach.

they were "good" picks.  green has averaged 14-18 minutes per game & puts up around 7-8 ppg.  decent for where he was picked but far from tremendous.

korver had a decent season last year but he's a 3 point specialist/role player who should be coming off the bench...again, finding a 3 point specialist/bench player with a 2nd round pick is  good...not tremendous, imo.



lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

PhillyGirl

The team needed a good 3-point threat. They got the best coming out of the draft...in the second round. He was tremendous in that role...had Obie used him correctly, you'd be saying the same thing. That he comes off the bench, rips the big shots when we needs them and gets the job DONE. Can give the extended minutes if needed as well. How many of LB's second rounders could you have said that about?

Willie Green WILL be tremendous when he gets consistent playing time. Throwing his numbers up there now is unfair. Why? Because he would sit for a week straight and then get thrown in a game when we were already up by 20.....or thrown in a game when someone gets hurt, etc. He didn't play consistently and was unable to get a good rhythm every time he was in there. And he STILL played so well. Which leads me to believe he'll be tremendous when he actually plays where he should be playing.

Now...here are LB's 2nd round picks:

2002
1 Jiri Welsch
2 Sam Clancy

2001   
1 Samuel Dalembert
2 Damone Brown
2 Alvin Jones


2000
1 Speedy Claxton
2 Mark Karcher

1999
2 Todd MacCulloch

1998   
1 Larry Hughes
2 Casey Shaw
   
1997
1 Keith Van Horn
2 Marko Milic
2 Kebu Stewart
2 James Collins

   
Let's also not lose sight of the fact that we were hurting in this and last year's drafts because of moves LB made. Yes, they had King's okay....but LB supposedly knew all, right?
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

hunt

lb's 2nd round picks have been awful (except for big mac)...never even got on the court.
king's have been good...2 have developed into nice role players.

that's as far as i'll go right now....if green & korver develop, then i'll give king more credit.  it's a little too early to say that bk is a draft guru.  that's all i'm saying.

anyway, on a different topic...it looks like the free agency will be slow moving this year since teams don't even know all the rules from the new cba yet.  teams will probably wait until late july, after all the rules are clarified & the luxury tax relief cuts are made.
guys like finley, rose, houston, etc could change the scope of the offseason free agent market.  let's hope the sixers get lucky & grab somebody decent.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

WEST is GOD

Quote from: mhunt on July 02, 2005, 08:00:20 AM
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 01, 2005, 09:37:17 PM
Mo won't be fired for at least 3 years, because if he fires Mo Billy is gone himself. That would be 4 coaches he went through.

Billy has been good at drafting. Iguodala, Green, and Korver. Once he took over as full GM he's been very good. I think he's earned some trust until he messes up. The bad picks were all Larry's idea.

iguodala was a lottery pick...he's supposed to be good.
green barely got off the bench last season.
and korver does one thing well.

let's not put king in the draft hall of fame yet...it's too convenient to say all the bad picks were larry's & all the good picks were king's.

I didn't put him in the draft hall of fame, but considering how few players in the 2nd round actually contribute, and are good for NBA teams, the Sixers scored 2/2 so far. Iguodala was a lottery pick yes, but for #9 he was great value. If they redid the draft Iguodala would go around #5 this time through. I'd say he's done a very good job. At least compared to Larry Brown. It's not hard to ruin lotto picks. Sixers have done it countless times and many other teams as well.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PhillyPhreak54

Marko Milic!! :-D


That's the dude who could jump over a car and dunk.

Maybe he's why Larry won't play Darko Milicic -- it sounds like Marko Milic. :P

Also -- I read in the Inky today that Sammy D's agent fielded calls from "6 or 7" teams after midnight last night. And he said that him and the Sixers are a ways off from a long term deal.

hunt

utah has already contacted willie green.

http://sltrib.com/sports/ci_2836615

do they know he's not white?  :paranoid  ;)
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

BigEd76

Sign-and-trade?  hmmm....I'll take AK47, thanks....  ;D

WEST is GOD

Utad doesn't have anyone I'd want that we could actually get. I'd take Snyder maybe.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PhillyPhreak54


hunt

snyder is the only one i'd be interested in as well...but i think he's a longshot.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

BigEd76

CSN sez:

-- the Timberwolves, Hawks and Cavaliers also have interest in Willie

Jasner sez:

-- King has contacted the agents of :fire :fire :fire Antoine Walker, Donyell Marshall, Stromile Swift and Christian Laettner...  :P

Mad-Lad

Quote from: BigEd76 on July 05, 2005, 10:58:06 PM
CSN sez:

-- the Timberwolves, Hawks and Cavaliers also have interest in Willie

Jasner sez:

-- King has contacted the agents of :fire :fire :fire Antoine Walker, Donyell Marshall, Stromile Swift and Christian Laettner...  :P

I'm semi-interested in Marshall and Swift.  The other two can go to hell as far as i'm concerned.

BigEd76

Action News had video clips of Dalembert teaching a basketball camp and reading to kids in Argentina...  8)