Anyone seen a good movie lately?

[smeags]

Just rewatched TLJ. It was excellent. Pro tip, go to the bathroom and get a drink during the casino scene and the movie is instantly fantastic. Just have someone explain how they met Fenster.

so it's kind of a built in intermission for the movie.

[rjs246]

That's exactly what it is. More importantly going into it with an understanding of the tone and direction they were taking things made the whole experience so much better. Took me from thinking it was average (or slightly above) to loving it. I've had the opposite reaction to multiple rewatches of TFA. I think I'm going to like TLJ more the more I watch it.

[rjs246]

Also just watched Lady Bird. It was good. Blandly perfect but perfect none the less.

[SD]

The more I think about TLJ the more I hate it. I might watch it again when it comes on cable. I read other reviews and it pops in my head "oh yeah that stupid part/line/pointless plot point happened too" but it was glossed over because of how bad the rest of the slop they threw on screen was. Really could care less what they do in the 3rd film. I'll check out this Solo movie because it is SW but I have low expectations. If it was made in the 80's with Harrison Ford and Billy Dee I'm sure it would have been fantastic.

[Sgt PSN]

My biggest beef with TLJ (and to a lesser degree TFA) is that the villain doesn't feel very villain-ee.  I know Kylo is the bad guy here but I don't feel like he's a really bad guy.  Seems more like a sexually confused teenager trying to get a grip on his identity and find his place in the world.

Also, this Snoke dude looks more like something from Harry Potter with a splash of Hugh Hefner's fashion sense. Who exactly is he?  Where did he come from?  He's not a Sith, so how did he become familiar with the Force?

I feel like they let a little too much time elapse between ROTJ and TFA to make the story really engaging.

[SD]

My biggest beef with TLJ (and to a lesser degree TFA) is that the villain doesn't feel very villain-wee.  I know Kylo is the bad guy here but I don't feel like he's a really bad guy.  Seems more like a sexually confused teenager trying to get a grip on his identity and find his place in the world.

Also, this Snoke dude looks more like something from Harry Potter with a splash of Hugh Hefner's fashion sense. Who exactly is he?  Where did he come from?  He's not a Sith, so how did he become familiar with the Force?

I feel like they let a little too much time elapse between ROTJ and TFA to make the story really engaging.

They spend 3 films fighting the Empire, blowing up two Death Stars, liberating the galaxy, only to have the First Order come along and regroup stronger with a more powerful weapon built into a planet 30 years later without any explanation. Snoke's character is the obvious architect but they give him the lamest death possible.

They're obviously trying to get away from the Jedi/Sith so Disney can reinvent SW. To me the Jedi/Sith conflict is the core fabric of the SW universe. Always has been.

Kylo's character is whatever. Interesting concept, like his character more after the second film than I did the first.

[Geowhizzer]

My biggest beef with TLJ (and to a lesser degree TFA) is that the villain doesn't feel very villain-wee.  I know Kylo is the bad guy here but I don't feel like he's a really bad guy.  Seems more like a sexually confused teenager trying to get a grip on his identity and find his place in the world.

Also, this Snoke dude looks more like something from Harry Potter with a splash of Hugh Hefner's fashion sense. Who exactly is he?  Where did he come from?  He's not a Sith, so how did he become familiar with the Force?

I feel like they let a little too much time elapse between ROTJ and TFA to make the story really engaging.

In TFA he seemed like a damn emo-teen who was flailing out against his "oppressive" parents.  Petulant rather than menacing.

[Munson]

I don't think they're trying to get away from Jedi/Sith as much as they are trying to get away with light side and dark side. We watched again last night and something Snoke said stood out to me, something about Kylo being unbalanced or something like that. Between that and what Luke was trying to teach Rey about arrogance of the Jedi, it seems to me they're aiming for the fact that the Jedi forbid any use of the dark side of the force and that failed the galaxy, while the Sith only used the dark side and that also led to their downfall in their absolute belief in the dark side being strongest and etc. Snoke and Luke seem to be getting at the same idea of 'balance', and how the 'balance' that the chosen one was supposed to bring to the force was not wiping out the light side or the dark side, but rather harnessing the power of both.

IDK, not something I put a ton of thought into until I heard Snoke say that to Kylo last night.

[Zanshin]

I saw the movie. It was okay, certainly not great. They took the easy way out too often, had too many logical inconsistencies with the story, didn't develop important backstories/storylines. Just felt like it could have been a lot better. I also took issue with those little bird things-- just obviously an attempt to market stuffed animals, which offended me for some reason.

[Eagles_Legendz]

My biggest beef with TLJ (and to a lesser degree TFA) is that the villain doesn't feel very villain-wee.  I know Kylo is the bad guy here but I don't feel like he's a really bad guy.  Seems more like a sexually confused teenager trying to get a grip on his identity and find his place in the world.

Also, this Snoke dude looks more like something from Harry Potter with a splash of Hugh Hefner's fashion sense. Who exactly is he?  Where did he come from?  He's not a Sith, so how did he become familiar with the Force?

I feel like they let a little too much time elapse between ROTJ and TFA to make the story really engaging.

They spend 3 films fighting the Empire, blowing up two Death Stars, liberating the galaxy, only to have the First Order come along and regroup stronger with a more powerful weapon built into a planet 30 years later without any explanation. Snoke's character is the obvious architect but they give him the lamest death possible.

They're obviously trying to get away from the Jedi/Sith so Disney can reinvent SW. To me the Jedi/Sith conflict is the core fabric of the SW universe. Always has been.

Kylo's character is whatever. Interesting concept, like his character more after the second film than I did the first.

This is my biggest issue with the new films.  They destroy the empire in the original and then poof it's like everyone is back to square one when these start.  Renders what happened in the originals sort of meaningless. I like TLJ though.

[Munson]

Not sure if it makes anyone feel better but apparently the First Order is from outside of the Galaxy?

[SD]

Not sure if it makes anyone feel better but apparently the First Order is from outside of the Galaxy?

That would make zero sense and be even dumber than not explaining their rise.

[Sgt PSN]

Not sure if it makes anyone feel better but apparently the First Order is from outside of the Galaxy?

That only creates more questions for me.  If the First Order is some new entity from an entirely different system, how'd they get Storm Troopers and Tie Fighters and shtein?  Did the few surviving members of the Empire sell all that shtein on eBay or something?  The remaining Storm Troopers went on CL looking for new gigs?

[SD]

Did the few surviving members of the Empire sell all that shtein on eBay or something? 

lol

Even worse is they can jump to light speed but don't know there's mega group of bad guys that's out there, they also happen to look and act exactly like the Empire. If that's the reasoning behind the first order the story goes from dumb to ridiculous.

[Munson]

I'm not a big enough Star Wars nerd just going off what other people have said. Apparently the Visual Guide book or something talks about the remnants of the old Empire left the galaxy for the Unknown Region and met up with Snoke and etc.

Again just stuff I've heard from other people. I'm hoping we're gonna get more on him in Ep 9