Week 6 - Washington: The Trail Of Tears

[MDS]

does doug make it to year 2?

wentz is legit....they will have their pick of the litter if hes fired

[ice grillin you]

lurie absolutely loves him and by all accounts hes a super nice guy....no way he only gets one year

[PhillyPhreak54]

He's got three years minimum

[Rome]

It was classic Andy sticking with Winnie Vaitai.

Fat Tire # 12 in progress. 

[Tomahawk]

Eagles have enough holes at WR, OL, and D that they probably won't be a contender until Wentz Year 3 at best. But who knows, Dougie might be the right coach for Wentz anyway. Howie definitely needs to get talent around him; not farg it up like Reid did with McNabb.

[SD]

I'm so tired of Zach Ertz. Can't even call him overrated because he was never that good to begin with.

[MDS]

im tired of the ertz hype

its 3 years in a row "oh hes going to have a huge year." no hes not. hes a slightly above average tight end.

[Don Ho]

I am so glad you brought the subject of Ertz up.  I am so sick of the media acting like he's the missing link when he's not available as if he's Gronk or some super Hyper Back.  Well when he plays he's no where to be found.  He wasn't that good in Chip's offenses.  The jury still out on how he'll fit in under this regime but so far thumbs down.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I want to hear what Schwartz says this week about getting gashed

Wide 9 is to help get pressure on the QB but they weren't doing that

So why not go to gap control? If you stop the run and make cousins throw a lot it usually ends with him being stupid with the ball

Oh and let CJ smith get some run next week at corner

[AshishPatel81]

I think the hype about the media/fans hyping up Ertz is overblown. I've never seen anyone call Ertz elite. People have just said he's a good solid TE, which he is. He's just been labeled as one of the Eagles' top offensive targets because the WRs suck so bad. If Jackson or Maclin were still here, there wouldn't be nearly as much talk about Ertz. I've never heard him put in any category with the NFL's elite though.

Loss today: when you get dominated on the lines you lose 9 times out of 10 and boy did they get whooped on the lines.

[ice grillin you]

ertz is probably top 10 te in the nfl and arguably better than anyone drafted since he was and that was like four drafts ago...fact is there just arent many great te's in the nfl

he was way under utilized by chip his first two years had a bust out year last year and has only played two games this year

i think he is what he is and thats a very good but not great te

i dont really get the hate either

[Sgt PSN]

He's wildly inconsistent.  Whether that's due to personal inconsistencies or play calling/game planning is debatable I guess.  Off the top of my head, the TEs I'd take over him are:

Gronk
Olsen
Reed (if he could stay healthy)
Kelce
Walker
Graham

After that, it gets pretty muddled with Ertz, Rudolph, Fleener, Miller, Bennett, Ebron, Eifert, Thomas trying to fill out the last 4 spots in the top 10.  You can make solid arguments for and against each one probably.  Thing with TE is it's entirely system and personnel dependent.  Eagles TEs were balling the first few weeks because the oline was playing well.  But when they don't play well, like today, the TE has to spend more time in pass protection than he does running routes. 

[AshishPatel81]

I think you would see him produce more if there were some WR on the roster to stretch the field and open up the middle of the field for Ertz. He's one of the Eagles top targets, and I'd guess on most weeks he's defended as such. And since he's not a superstar like Gronk, he can't be expected to go out and dominate every week. Very few TEs are good enough to do that. I think fans just expect too much of him, because they see the lack of passing weapons and assume it's up to Ertz to go out and dominate, but that's really not who he is.

[QB Eagles]

I don't think Ertz got a lot of hype outside of fantasy football circles, much of which was speculation based on the systems Chip and now Doug would supposedly be running. If I had to rank the things that could be improved about the Eagles, he would be near the bottom. He's fine.

For a while, the knock on him was that he couldn't fully replace Celek because he can't block, but that hasn't been true for a couple of seasons now.

Didn't think he was bad today, he should have hauled in that high TD pass but a lot of his time was spent chipping for Vaitai. No one's going to have a big game when the QB only gets to throw 12 or 13 catchable passes all game.

[ice grillin you]

I think you would see him produce more if there were some WR on the roster to stretch the field and open up the middle of the field for Ertz. He's one of the Eagles top targets, and I'd guess on most weeks he's defended as such.

outside help would certainly assist him but he had a big year last year with the same weapons around...you would think after a bust out year hed get more than two games with a new qb before getting called out or people saying they are done with him....who better are you going to get?...and why would you even try with so many more pressing needs...like three offensive lineman and at least a couple wide receivers...you got a rookie seemingly franchise qb you need to add stuff around him not take away a perfectly fine te