Eagles 2016 Draft

[QB Eagles]

I don't disagree with any of that except I think kiko can still be a productive linebacker if not a great one...at least i would have liked to have found out since hes so cheap and young...but im assuming because of that he needed to be included to get the trade done and im fine with that as well

I agree, he was dirt cheap. If there was a 20% chance of him becoming a productive player, it still would have been worth giving him one more cheapo year to find out. Unless the Eagles were utterly convinced that he's useless, he was part of the price of dumping Maxwell.

[SD]

I get what you guys are saying, but I have never seen a worse defensive player live than what I saw from Kiko last season. I don't blame them for moving on.

[MDS]

I don't disagree with any of that except I think kiko can still be a productive linebacker if not a great one...at least i would have liked to have found out since hes so cheap and young...but im assuming because of that he needed to be included to get the trade done and im fine with that as well

I agree, he was dirt cheap. If there was a 20% chance of him becoming a productive player, it still would have been worth giving him one more cheapo year to find out. Unless the Eagles were utterly convinced that he's useless, he was part of the price of dumping Maxwell.

im more than willing to take those chances in return for getting rid of the max contract and moving up to the 8....well worth it

not to mention, kiko, best case scenario, is the 3rd best LB on the roster. how much is a SAM really worth in this system when kendricks and hicks will be playing more 3 down than him.

[ice grillin you]

kiko cant play sam....even if he was still here he would have had to beat out hicks in the middle or kendricks on the weakside...but even if he didn't he would have been the ultimate depth player...a two position backup that has a big ceiling and is dirt cheap...but like I said I agree that it was worth getting rid of him to move Maxwell and clearly he had to have been included or it wouldn't have gotten done

[Eagaholic]

Found this interesting

The San Diego Chargers have agreed to terms with former Packers cornerback Casey Heyward on a three-year, $15.3 million contract according to Rand Getlin of NFL Network.

Not sure if SD plans to play him outside, slot or both but that is starters money. Interesting to me because many are mocking Jalen Ramsey to SD at 3 and they already have a  good young CB in Verrett (1st rounder), and I think it is less likely they'd get Ramsey just to replace Weddle. Didn't seem like there was a lot of hope the Eagles could land him but I think it has entered the realm of possibility.

[SD]

Ramsey and Tunsil are the best players in the drat. I can't see Ramsey dropping out of the top 5.

[ice grillin you]

decent chance ramsey goes first overall

[BigEd76]

A DB hasn't been picked first overall in 60 years

[ice grillin you]

im sure teams are taking that into consideration when evaluating players

[BigEd76]

I'm not saying it'll never happen again, but as important of a position as it is, there's never been someone that's so great that he's worth taking over a QB, OL or DL.  Deion, Peterson and Terrell Buckley went #5, Woodson went #4 and Shawn Springs went #3.  Even if you include safeties, there's Eric Berry and HOF Taylor that didn't get picked until #5, and Lott was #8

[ice grillin you]

the point isn't whether he goes one or not the point is there is zero chance he falls to 8...and where ronnie lott or deion sanders went has nothing to do with jalen ramsey or this years draft

no team is going to sit there at 1,2, or 3 and say "man we cant take this kid now....ronnie lott didn't even go til 8"

[Rome]

Actually that's exactly what they would say.  The greatest defensive back ever isn't worth anything close to a franchise QB.  They might not name a random great player but the gist is the same.  We can't take a CB/S at #1 overall because there's never been one and there isn't now regardless of how great Jalen Ramsey might be. 

[ice grillin you]

no it doesnt....it has nothing to do with past picks it has to do with this draft and the current state of the players and the league

in fact one of the reasons ramsey has a decent chance to go number one is because the qb class is so weak

if andrew luck were in this draft theres no chance ramsey would go one...but because jared goff or carson wentz is the best qb in the draft he has a legit shot

also the cb position is more valued now than it was in 1978...live in the past you die in the future....that's why no teams do that...someone would be laughed out of a draft room if they said don't take Jalen ramsey here because Ronnie lott went number 8 50 years ago

either way as I said this has nothing to do with whether he goes one...the point in bringing up that he has a legit shot to go one was done to show that he has no chance to fall to the eagles...not to discuss who is going to go first

[Rome]

Words.

[BigEd76]

the point isn't whether he goes one or not

decent chance ramsey goes first overall