2016 Starting QB

Started by PhillyPhreak54, December 27, 2015, 09:27:24 PM

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What Do You Do?

Re-Sign Bradford To A Long Term Deal
Franchise Tag Bradford
Let Bradford Walk & Sign... (post your choice)
Let Bradford Walk & Draft... (post your choice)
Other... (post your plan)

QB Eagles

Quote from: BigEd76 on December 28, 2015, 05:23:33 PM
The franchise tag for QB is projected to be $19.75M next year. You guys are OK with that for Bradford?

I think that would be the non-exclusive tag too. Tack on another 5 million for the exclusive tag.

The reality is I think he'll sign a 3+ year deal, in the 15-18 million/year range. It can be structured so his cap hit for the season isn't nearly as unfriendly as the franchise tag. Eagles will probably be truly stuck with him for at least two of those years. Obviously not ideal but the QB market is a big seller's market this offseason. The Eagles are going to have to pay him more than he's demonstrated that he's worth and give him more years than any of us feel comfortable with. The other options are Sanchez or worse.

Quote from: Diomedes on December 28, 2015, 05:43:47 PM
In the meantime, lose Sanchez.  Add someone from the draft and get RGIII as your #2.

Swapping out Sanchez for RGIII seems unlikely. Sanchez comes relatively cheap compared to what they'd likely have to pay RGIII on the open market (and a trade means paying him $16.5 million). Combined with throwing more money at Bradford, this would mean the Eagles would be investing much more money in the QB position for no real improvement. Meanwhile by the end of the 2015 season, it was already a position of relative strength compared to other team needs.

I don't get the infatuation with Kap. Not sure if people have just not seen any 49er games since that Super Bowl a few years ago, or they are still wrapped up in the idea that Chip needs a mobile QB so he can finish implementing the Ducks offense. Maybe it's just another dumb idea the Philly media pumps. 2014-2015 Kap is a Tebow level passer, and he can't run like he used to either. Defenses have solved that 49ers pistol shtein even more dominantly than they've solved Chip's offense. Kap lost his job to Blaine Gabbert, who was a clear and immediate improvement. Think about that. His passer rating is just below that of Johnny Manziel, and he threw for about 90 yards less per game than slingin' Sam this year. Also we'd be back to the drawing board with another new QB in the system coming off a major surgery. If this was 2012, yes please to Kap. But it's 2016. I think even RGIII gives a team more hope.

The argument for Kap is that all his problems are actually because of the 49ers, both in terms of a poor line and poor receivers, and because it's become a mentally toxic place to be, and it's gotten to him. Even if you buy that (and clearly I don't), would the Eagles really be a significant change of scenery on those scores?

Rome

It won't matter who the starting quarterback is if they don't drastically improve the offensive line.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Rome on December 28, 2015, 07:34:54 PM
It won't matter who the starting quarterback is if they don't drastically improve the wide receivers.
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Susquehanna Birder

Both. Fix both of those, and we stand a fighting chance. Otherwise just mail it in.

smeags

chip could start by actually drafting another lineman.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

hunt

chip didn't give up a starting qb in the deal to get bradford.  he gave up case keenum's backup.
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smeags

Quote from: hunt on December 29, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
chip didn't give up a starting qb in the deal to get bradford.  he gave up case keenum's backup.

Yeah but he's one hellava backup.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

ice grillin you

Quote from: hunt on December 29, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
chip didn't give up a starting qb in the deal to get bradford.  he gave up case keenum's backup.

no one is saying hes been good with stl but he was in fact the eagles starting qb at the time of the trade

also he was just a year away from a 27 td 2 int season
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Diomedes

Ooh, ooh.  A semantic argument with a hippo.  IN.

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smeags

 Get yer popcorn ready, yo ! :crazy
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

hunt

nothing to argue, really.  foles was a bad starting qb when he was traded...and has proven to be more of a backup level talent.  whatever.

i'm cool with sam i am on a short term deal.  wr & oline need to be addressed before doing something crazy to acquire an upgrade at qb, imo.  he'll be back if he wants to be.

i don't like rg-knee or the bicep kisser but if they're somehow available for cheap w/o having to give anything up...sure, why the hell not.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

smeags

I want no parts of kaep or rg3. Don't think either have anything to offer really and neither would work well in this city.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

hunt

Quote from: smeags on December 29, 2015, 11:13:01 AM
I want no parts of kaep or rg3. Don't think either have anything to offer really and neither would work well in this city.

not even for lulz alone?   :-D
maybe work a deal for johnny football as well?  :paranoid
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

smeags

Oh it would entertaining for sure, in a train wreck kind a way.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

Sgt PSN

RGIII is a flat out no. He's physically fragile and mentally as soft as I've ever seen.

Kap is a dumpster fire but still a little intriguing. He has all of the physical traits that you'd think chip would covet. It's really just a matter of whether or not he can learn to throw. He's basically Tebow but less Jesusy. I wouldn't be mad if he were brought in to be the back up, but def not the starter....unless he actually earns the job in camp.