Random Eagles Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread

[MDS]

Trade deadlines at 4, here's the rumors:

Kaep (no thanks)
Boldin (maybe at a low low price)
Curry probably gone for a late pick but the Eagles want too much

heads up:

these are all made up

[Don Ho]

In Seth we trust:

"He cannot, nor will he ever be that quarterback that can understand the full lay of the land," Joyner said of Kaepernick Tuesday on the 94WIP Mike & Ike Show with Ike Reese and Rob Charry (filling in for Michael Barkann). When it comes to passing, if his first read isn't available, then he goes into run mode. And you can't play quarterback in the NFL like that

"Is that the kind of quarterback that you want?" Joyner asked. "I'd rather have Sam Bradford and see what we get out of him over the next nine weeks, rather than having Kaepernick."

Kaepernick is 27th in the NFL completing just 59.3-percent of his passes and his 28 sacks taken is second most in the NFL. Current Eagles QB Sam Bradford has completed just 62-percent of his passes, 23rd in the NFL, but has thrown 10 interceptions.

However, Kaepernick does have a track record of success, as he came just a few yards of winning the Super Bowl in 2012. Joyner attributes a lot of that success to his world-class defense, power running game, and dominant tight end play.

"I've got a theory about football players in the NFL," Joyner explained. "I call it my three year rule. When I'm evaluating a player I look at the first three years that they play. If they get consistent time on the field and there is no injuries, no major injuries that has them out say six games or more, if they don't improve in the first three years it's pretty darn likely that they're not gonna improve."

[Rome]

If anyone would know the frustrations of playing defense with a chuck & duck quarterback on offense, it's Seth.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I've always wondered if him or any of the other defensive guys ever got after Buddy for his putrid offense?

[ice grillin you]

I've always wondered if him or any of the other defensive guys ever got after Buddy for his putrid offense?

i know you were too young to remember those teams and probably didnt even see them a whole lot so im not blaming you for following the revisionist history narrative of people who did follow those teams closely but the eagle offense was not putrid and randall won multiple nfl offensive player of the year awards....was he joe montana and were the eagles the fun and gun...no....but this idea that the offensive was "putrid" is so wrong

[Rome]

It's not wrong at all.  They had no running game and the offensive line sucked.  That's why they got smoked every time Buddy faced a playoff team.  Stop Randall and you stop the Eagles.  The defense was probably top 5 of all time but the offense was inconsistent and totally unbalanced.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I remember Randall and Fred/Calvin/Keith and how they could move the ball through the air...I was more or less referring to the lousy OL and running game.

[SD]

They always had great offensive weapons, just never had a line worth a damn. Go back and watch some of those games, Randall was running for his life every single play. It's even more impressive to watch today.

[ice grillin you]

It's not wrong at all.  They had no running game and the offensive line sucked.  That's why they got smoked every time Buddy faced a playoff team.  Stop Randall and you stop the Eagles.  The defense was probably top 5 of all time but the offense was inconsistent and totally unbalanced.

league rankings in the 4 years buddy and randall were together full time

offense pts scored - 12, 9, 13, 3
offense yards gained - 10, 10, 12, 3

defense pts allowed - 25, 14, 5, 12
defense yards allowed - 23, 27, 8, 12

again im not trying to say the offense was all world but this notion that has formed over the years that the defense was the steel curtain and the offense was putrid and comparing guys like colin kaepernick to randall makes me sick

[PhillyPhreak54]

Who compared Kap to Randall?

[ice grillin you]

If anyone would know the frustrations of playing defense with a chuck & duck quarterback on offense, it's Seth.

[Rome]

Are you seriously suggesting he wasn't?

Yeah, he was.  Look at his career stats.  He was a lazy prima donna who relied on incredible athletic ability.  He also had a two cent head and his teammates despised the preferential treatment he received from his head coach.

Don't get me wrong. I loved Randall.  He was the most exciting player this team ever had. He could have been a HOF player if Buddy and Harry Gamble got him a decent offensive line and a running game.  They didn't and he bottomed out after Bryce Paup effectively ended his career.

Only when he went to Minnesota did he finally put it all together for one magical season.  He became a real quarterback then.

[SD]

I disagree about Minnesota, he survived on deep lobs to Moss, had possibly the greatest possession type receiver as a safety net in CC, and had Jake Reed as a 3rd wr. He also had a good OL and a top 5-10 RB in Smith. He barely ran the ball because he didn't have to. Moss made him that season.

[smeags]

I'll check back in two pages

[SD]

I'll check back in two pages

go check out the abortion thread in the mean time