Rest Of Baseball - 2015

[ice grillin you]

hits
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cards - 1

runs
nationals - 4
cardinals - 3

[QB Eagles]

Have the Pirates ever shared in Philly's ire and despise?

The only NL team outside the NL East that Phillies fans care enough to have even the mildest rivalry with is your Dodgers.

Even inside the NL East, the teams other than the Mets barely register. When it was Braves vs. Yankees in the World Series I rooted for the Braves because farg NY.

[Rome]

Pittsburgh and the Phillies had a nice rivalry in the late 70's and early 80's.  Dave Parker was the truth.  He was a goddamn wrecking machine in his prime.  Willie Stargell too.  Wonder whatever happened to the seat he hit in the 600 level in right at the Vet?   I sat in it once and to this day I have no idea how anyone could hit a ball that far.

[Sgt PSN]

Whom do you philly fans hate more, Mets or Nats?

I hate the Expos more than the Nats.  And the Expos unis were secksy butter johnsons. 

Mets can eat a fleshpop. 

[Sgt PSN]

Pittsburgh and the Phillies had a nice rivalry in the late 70's and early 80's.  Dave Parker was the truth.  He was a goddamn wrecking machine in his prime.  Willie Stargell too.  Wonder whatever happened to the seat he hit in the 600 level in right at the Vet?   I sat in it once and to this day I have no idea how anyone could hit a ball that far.

Didn't they have a star or something on the tunnel right next to that seat?

[MDS]

phils/pirates will come back whenever they expand and go to 4 divisions of 8

until then shut up you fossils

[Don Ho]

LOL!

I remember...........................

[MDS]

good job by matt williams tonight not bringing in his best relief pitcher because, in 1960, some dude decided to create a stat called a "save."

what an utter disaster of a team

[PhillyPhreak54]

Yeah I don't think the save was around in 1960, son. Add about 10ish years

[MDS]

nice try gramps

The term save was being used as far back as 1952.[2] Executives Jim Toomey of the St. Louis Cardinals, Allan Roth of the Los Angeles Dodgers and Irv Kaze of the Pittsburgh Pirates awarded saves to pitchers that finished winning games but were not credited with the win, regardless of the margin of victory. The statistic went largely unnoticed.

A formula with more criteria for saves was invented in 1960 by baseball writer Jerome Holtzman.[3] He felt that the existing statistics at the time, earned run average (ERA) and win–loss record (W-L), did not sufficiently measure a reliever's effectiveness. ERA does not account for inherited runners a reliever allows to score, and W-L record does not account for relievers protecting leads. Elroy Face of the Pittsburgh Pirates was 18–1 in 1959; however, Holtzman wrote that in 10 of the 18 wins, Face allowed the tying or lead run but got the win when the Pirates offense regained the lead.[1][note 1] Holtzman felt that Face was more effective the previous year when he was 5–2. When Holtzman presented the idea to J. G. Taylor Spink, publisher of The Sporting News, "[Spink] gave [Holtzman] a $100 bonus. Maybe it was $200." Holtzman recorded the unofficial save statistic in The Sporting News weekly for nine years before it became official in 1969. In conjunction with publishing the statistic, The Sporting News in 1960 also introduced the Fireman of the Year Award, which was awarded based on a combination of saves and wins.[1][6]

The save became an official MLB statistic in 1969.[1] It was MLB's first new major statistic since the run batted in was added in 1920.[1] Bill Singer is credited with recording the first official save when he pitched three shutout innings in relief of Don Drysdale in the Los Angeles Dodgers' 3–2 Opening Day victory over the Cincinnati Reds at Crosley Field on April 7 of that year.[7][8]

[PhillyPhreak54]

Nice history lesson.

1969 is when it became official.

Imagine when people look back to the stupid sabr beginnings and say "some dumbshtein created the xfip and war stat..."

Back to spreadsheets and calculators and formulas. Leave baseball to people who know the game!

[Don Ho]

The only NL team outside the NL East that Phillies fans care enough to have even the mildest rivalry with is your Dodgers.

Absolutely.  The geezers such as myself, Rome, Geo watched the bums get bitch slapped in back to back years in the NLCS by Dodgers in  77 and 78, both painful series.  77 series at The Vet, bums about to go up 2 games to 1 (5 game series back then), top nine and Lopes is called safe at first and he was clearly out.  You want to see footage of Bowa going ballistic watch that play.  Bull Luzinski then totally misplays a ball hit by Manny Mota and the flood gates open up.  Beat Doyers in 1983 only to lose to Orioles in WS and of course 08 & 09. 

[Rome]

Pittsburgh and the Phillies had a nice rivalry in the late 70's and early 80's.  Dave Parker was the truth.  He was a goddamn wrecking machine in his prime.  Willie Stargell too.  Wonder whatever happened to the seat he hit in the 600 level in right at the Vet?   I sat in it once and to this day I have no idea how anyone could hit a ball that far.

Didn't they have a star or something on the tunnel right next to that seat?

Yep - I think he hit the concrete in front of the seat actually.  I looked it up and it was a 520 foot blast.  Inhuman.

[smeags]

I hate the mets as much as the football giants and it's an unhealthy hate level.

right now baseball hate DH.

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/13591191/matt-harvey-noncommittal-exceeding-180-innings-new-york-mets?ex_cid=espnapi_public

Uhhhh ohhhhhh