Game of Thrones

[QB Eagles]

And how her list has now shrunk down to 4, maybe 3?

They probably had to take guys out like Thoros of Myr because D&D hope that we are forgetting that dude, because he's not coming back to the show ever.

[Eagaholic]

I don't remember Thoros ever on her list. But yeah, that's what I meant about D&D planning ahead. Why put her on the list if they are just going to forget him? If they aren't working closely in concert with JRRM in terms of what he will write in the coming books they could find themselves irreparably at odds with how book story lines go.

[Munson]

Most of the people on her list died.

I think she only named Beric and Thoros on there once, maybe she's just realized they're not worth the time or trouble after all the shtein she's seen/been through since leaving the Brotherhood.

I'd be pretty upset if the Brotherhood doesn't at least get a mention. Though I think it'd be pretty easy to write off their existence as just something that happened in response to the war, which is more or less on hold at the moment. Though you would think with all the crazy shtein happening with Melisandre that Thoros' ability to bring Beric back might have played into the overall plot at some point.

[Eagaholic]

With all the winnowing of characters and houses it seems that ultimately all the lines will be converging, and it would be great to see Thoros and his flaming sword working with Melisandra. I think it added to the Thoros character and the story in a subtle way that he had these supernatural abilities bestowed on him seemingly undeservedly and without faith. It stands in stark (no pun intended) comparison to everything Melissandra preaches about what one needs to have to be 'saved' or find favor with their god.

[smeags]

Most of the people on her list died.

I think she only named Beric and Thoros on there once, maybe she's just realized they're not worth the time or trouble after all the shtein she's seen/been through since leaving the Brotherhood.

I'd be pretty upset if the Brotherhood doesn't at least get a mention. Though I think it'd be pretty easy to write off their existence as just something that happened in response to the war, which is more or less on hold at the moment. Though you would think with all the crazy shtein happening with Melisandre that Thoros' ability to bring Beric back might have played into the overall plot at some point.

the brotherhood certainly had more of a part in the end of book 3 with another main character (dont want to say the name just in case this storyline wasnt chopped completely)

would actually like to see that plot play out.

didnt hate the first two episodes by any means but they felt rushed to me, again mostly jon snow's situation. have a feeling the next two shows will put this season into high gear. 

[Eagles_Legendz]

Not much action tonight but thought there were lots of great lines.

I have been consistently critical of Aidan Gillen as LF but he has been good this year and his scene with Roose was very good.  They're also doing better by Stannis so far this season.

[Munson]

Thought tonight's episode was great.

No idea what the farg Littlefinger's angle is here (outside, of course, of getting more power to Littlefinger). Roose obviously believes he's forming an alliance. But does Littlefinger truly expect Sansa to avenge her family? And would she go as far as killing Roose or Ramsey? Littlefinger saying he doesn't know much about Ramsey is a little scary...he could be putting Sansa into danger he doesn't realize. So, Littlefinger, Lord of the Vale, is outwardly aligned with the Lannisters, and secretly aligned with both the Tyrells and the Boltons. Have no idea what to think of all this.

The Wall scenes were great. So happy Janos Slynt finally got what was coming to him, 4 seasons later. So fitting that Jon took his head. I only wish he knew just how much revenge he got with the stroke of that sword. Was about to say that I wanted to see a scene between Davos and Jon, I'm glad we got one. Jon definitely seems seriously conflicted after what Davos said. I can't see him leaving his post as Lord Commander, but maybe he rides with Stannis for Winterfell to help him take it? Also, now that Sansa is at Winterfell, I have become much less enthusiastic about Stannis sacking the shtein out of it.

Lol at the Tyrion/Varys scenes. Drunk Jorah shows up..I'm guessing when he says "The queen", he means Cersei, as I don't think he would think having tyrion would get him back in the good graces of Dany....but who knows.

I know Margery is playing Tommen hard for the sake of her family, but I get the feeling she does actually like him. They could actually be a good king and queen if the world wasn't falling apart around them. I lol'd hard at Margery pretending to like Cersei, both to Tommen and to Cersei's face. Lol at telling Cersei that her son fargs like a champ. Awkward.

No idea what's going on with Arya and that weird chick in the House of Black and White. Don't really have much to say other than I'm glad she found a way to keep Needle. Need more info on this next week.

Was kind of surprised we got no Dany this week, though it makes sense. Don't wanna stretch it out too thin.

Brienne and Pod was a nice scene/story. Though now I'm realizing Brienne is converging on Winterfell at the same time that Stannis is...hopefully she doesn't die trying to do something dumb like kill Stannis.

[hbionic]

I get the opposite of Margery. She's like..."Ooh, look what time it is, (yawn), maybe you can get some Hoyda tomorrow my horny young husband? Let me quickly put my clothes back on and hide this sweet ass of mine so that hbionic can unpause the show and zip his shorts back up and let us get on with the scene".

She's definitely not into him. Almost like a scene from my sex life between wifey and I. 'Cept wifey usually has most of her clothes on and she doesn't make that stupid ass duck face Margery does.

Yeah, Margery...what a sweet ass! Amirite?

[hbionic]

And oh yeah, Tyrion is farged!

[Eagaholic]

As far as following the books, the show is now off the reservation, but I like that you never know what to expect. 

One of the show's strengths is finding good actors, especially the child actors, and seems to hit again with the kid who plays Tommen.

That vaguely gollum-like priestess suggests that the followers of R'Hllor are squarely backing Dany as the savior, at least in Volantis. Small wonder given their obsession with fire. That would seem to make Stannis and Melissandra in Westeros a natural ally with Dany and the people of Essos when the big battle of ice and fire goes down. Except that Stannis declared himself king as did Dany queen, and the Iron Throne isn't big enough for the both of them. Or is it? Those red priestesses do like their monarch-savior proclamations. Wonder how that will shake out.

Definitely the over on the number of necks we see blood spurting out of this season. I think we're over 1 per episode pace.

I wasn't put off as much as others with how rushed some story lines have been until this episode. The royal wedding was absurd. It was out of the blue and like what, 45 seconds? I could see why maybe Olena would arrange to not be there, but not even a contingent from Highgarden? No feast? I get that after Joffrey and Tywin's death it wouldn't be a huge gala affair but still, it gave an unrealistic sense to everything. I think they really should have made this season into two. They are gutting a lot of good parts out, plus it would give GRRM another year to catch up.

Did Natalie Dormer (Margaery) make a no-more-nude-scenes decision like Emelia Clarke?

[Eagles_Legendz]

I think they probably didn't want her really naked that scene given Tommen is supposed to be 15 or something in the show.

[SunMo]

so i read on twitter that last night was when the show really starts to jump away from the books.  does someone know why?  i don't really care, just curious. 

[Eagles_Legendz]

Book plot differences - [spoiler]Littlefinger doesn't go to Winterfell with Sansa.   He has a far more complicated plot with a side character who isn't in the show to marry Sansa to and not Ramsay.  The Boltons in the books set up a sham marriage to "Arya" who isn't Arya to try to give them legitimacy.  They're merging those storylines. 

Also Brienne isn't following them, she's on a pointless meandering side quest in the books and certainly makes no reference to killing Stannis.  Brienne, Jaime to Dorne, and especially the Littlefinger/Sansa/Bolton thing are big departures from the books.[/spoiler]

[SunMo]

thanks Legendz.  i read the books until Feast and just couldn't get through it.

[Eagles_Legendz]

Not a problem.  Also big book difference from episode 1--  [spoiler]Mance is still alive[/spoiler]