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whoops...wrong old black dude
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That's about right :-D
2014 highlights...still has burst
http://youtu.be/HmTnrSNKdmM
The long td pass where Marcus Smith blew coverage and Cary can't tackle for shtein are on there.
That was Earl Wolff not Cary
Burst doesn't matter with Gore. Probably can't hurt in RZ or in short distance but it caps the explosive plays McCoy brought.
I always like Gore going back to his freshman year at Miami. Seems like the type that his low IQ helps him just forget that he's injured or old.
i wouldnt have wasted my time on him and i dont really get the point but gore is so irrelevant in the big picture its not even funny
@AdamSchefter: Frank Gore has gotten cold feet on signing with Philadelphia, as @RapSheet reported. Eagles now in market for other RBs. Indy wants Gore.
I heard Gore is getting cold feet somewhere.
He got cold feet AT the NovaCare Complex.
I kinda liked the signing, although it wasn't particularly important. That's a real bitch move if he and his agent backed out of an actual agreement though.
its a bitch move for him to change his mind about a contract that wasn't signed but not a bitch move for an nfl team to cut someone from a signed contract?....I guess a team backing out of a non guaranteed contract to do whats best for them is cool but not a player backing out of a non guaranteed verbal agreement to do whats best for him and his family
His agent is Mr Next Question.
I like Gore, he runs hard and is no nonsense. They get him great, they don't they get someone similar. It's not like Frank Gore is the difference between them winning a SB next season.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
its a bitch move for him to change his mind about a contract that wasn't signed but not a bitch move for an nfl team to cut someone from a signed contract?....I guess a team backing out of a non guaranteed contract to do whats best for them is cool but not a player backing out of a non guaranteed verbal agreement to do whats best for him and his family
It's not a team vs player thing.
It's well understood and written into the contracts that teams can release players prior to the end date of the contract. That is what the union has collectively bargained with the league. Also, it happens frequently and is not considered to unusual, unexpected, or done in bad faith (though players are not happy when it happens). If the players so chose, they could bargain to make all contracts guaranteed, likely at the price of significantly smaller and shorter contracts.
A handshake deal like what supposedly happened between Gore and the Eagles cannot and should not be legally upheld of course, but it is amateurish and rare for the player or agent to unilaterally void that agreement before it is even signed, just as it would have been amateurish and rare for the Eagles to unilaterally void it before it is even signed.
It's really the fault of this idiotic tampering period. You can imagine a scenario in which an RB would agree to terms with a team early in the weekend, the rest of the high profile RBs would be swooped up later in the weekend by other teams, and then at the last moment, the first RB decides to back out of his deal, totally farging the team that agreed to sign him out of being able to sign any decent FA RBs. If the Eagles had been allowed to simply sign Gore at the conclusion of negotiations, the risk would not have existed.
Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2015, 07:16:52 PM
I heard Gore is getting cold feet somewhere.
This did not go completely unappreciated.
I know one guy who agrees with Igs
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Quote from: QB Eagles on March 09, 2015, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
its a bitch move for him to change his mind about a contract that wasn't signed but not a bitch move for an nfl team to cut someone from a signed contract?....I guess a team backing out of a non guaranteed contract to do whats best for them is cool but not a player backing out of a non guaranteed verbal agreement to do whats best for him and his family
It's not a team vs player thing.
It's well understood and written into the contracts that teams can release players prior to the end date of the contract. That is what the union has collectively bargained with the league. Also, it happens frequently and is not considered to unusual, unexpected, or done in bad faith (though players are not happy when it happens). If the players so chose, they could bargain to make all contracts guaranteed, likely at the price of significantly smaller and shorter contracts.
A handshake deal like what supposedly happened between Gore and the Eagles cannot and should not be legally upheld of course, but it is amateurish and rare for the player or agent to unilaterally void that agreement before it is even signed, just as it would have been amateurish and rare for the Eagles to unilaterally void it before it is even signed.
yeah its not a team vs player thing its a human thing
its well understood in life that before a contract is signed it don't mean shtein....reports are that gore was literally crying over the decision of where to go...he has every right to change his mind and not be ripped for it
are kids who verbal to a college and then flip iceholes for changing their mind?
plus there are lots of things teams tell players to get them to sign that they don't live up too...like promising a starting position or telling them they will get tons of touches...or that we wont move you safety....blah blah blah....but a man torn or confused about what to do with his life is amateurish
gimme a break
I think Gore was sold by Chipper, Rosenhaus realized he undersold him, and opened up the backchannels with Indy.
We will see in the end but it sounds like the Eagles offered more but gore has said he wants to play with luck and he is close to pagano from his Miami days
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
i wouldnt have wasted my time on him and i dont really get the point but gore is so irrelevant in the big picture its not even funny
I agree. If we don't get him, it may turn out to be a favor. Get a young back in the draft. I was worried about Gore and the tempo of this offense anyway. Give Polk a bigger role and increase Sproles' time.
yeah id much rather get a young back in the draft...more than anything its more interesting...gore is zzzzzzzzz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICPLbgopEQ4
Polk isn't dependable. He's always injured. He's great in his short yardage role, and Sproles is great in his role, they need an every down back.
chris polk is hot garbage and the fact that he is even in the conversation about the future of the team is ridiculous.
Per lil guy's favorite social media machine - people are saying that the First Take clowns are taking credit for Gore's change of heart
I mean, how upset can anyone REALLY get about losing out on a 31 year old running back, which is arguably the most fungible position and most prone to rapid decline?
Quote from: Zanshin on March 10, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
I mean, how upset can anyone REALLY get about losing out on a 31 year old running back
this upset...
QuoteAdam Caplan @caplannfl · Book on Gore: Leadership, great in pass pro, excellent zone runner (also good running out of shotgun formation).
Adam Caplan @caplannfl · Eagles led NFL with 76% of runs from shotgun/pistol formations (736/974).
Geoff Mosher @GeoffMosherCSN · @RoobCSN and I wrote why Gore would be a great fit in Philly earlier this week: http://www.csnphilly...rs-frank-gore ...
Eliot Shorr-Parks @EliotShorrParks · ProFootball Focus had Gore as a better pass blocker and better pure runner (i.e. decision making) than McCoy last season. #Eagles
Adam Caplan @caplannfl · 2m2 minutes ago Also some interesting info on Maxwell--Sources: RB Gore plans to sign with Eagles http://es.pn/1KHtDjn
QuoteLance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 4m4 minutes ago
Got this from someone close to 80: "Dre on owners private jet headed to Indy. He called Gore & they agreed both to Indy. Philly wanted both"
Talking about Andre Johnson. Him and Gore going to Indy.
Sucks that the Birds won't land Andre...damn
QuoteSchefter: Gore called people and said: I'm not feeling (Philadelphia). I don't feel good about this.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
Per lil guy's favorite social media machine - people are saying that the First Take clowns are taking credit for Gore's change of heart
well maybe kelly should take off the white hood before talking to FA's ?
i think even j can agree with me now that the eagles are in a shambles
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 10, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
I mean, how upset can anyone REALLY get about losing out on a 31 year old running back
this upset...
QuoteAdam Caplan @caplannfl · Book on Gore: Leadership, great in pass pro, excellent zone runner (also good running out of shotgun formation).
Adam Caplan @caplannfl · Eagles led NFL with 76% of runs from shotgun/pistol formations (736/974).
Geoff Mosher @GeoffMosherCSN · @RoobCSN and I wrote why Gore would be a great fit in Philly earlier this week: http://www.csnphilly...rs-frank-gore ...
Eliot Shorr-Parks @EliotShorrParks · ProFootball Focus had Gore as a better pass blocker and better pure runner (i.e. decision making) than McCoy last season. #Eagles
Adam Caplan @caplannfl · 2m2 minutes ago Also some interesting info on Maxwell--Sources: RB Gore plans to sign with Eagles http://es.pn/1KHtDjn
Even that doesn't look upset. Disappointed? I can see that. It's hard to know what they're even missing at this point, let alone what difference the o-line would make in that mystery production. Crap shoot.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 11:27:05 AM
i think even j can agree with me now that the eagles are in a shambles
Not at all. Because they chose to go to Indy?
Andre spoke here of how he wants to play with a star QB - which we know the Eagles don't have. Plus there is that U connection there (Chudzinski and Pagano).
So no - I don't see the Eagles being in shambles.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/frank-gore-changed-mind-philadelphia-eagles-indianapolis-colts-personnel-chip-kelly-030915
Ok so he didn't like them losing Maclin - understandable. I don't like it either and think they should have paid him to stay. But the $11M pricetag is high.
And he doesn't like Chip's no nonsense approach
QuoteA source said Gore also indicated to a friend he was concerned with what he heard about Kelly's overbearing approach in Philly. Kelly's intense, no-nonsense approach — which has helped make him successful throughout his college and professional coaching career — initially rubbed McCoy the wrong way, though McCoy and Kelly were able to patch up their relationship for a good part of their two seasons together.
Cry me a river, Frank.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 11:33:36 AM
they have a taskmaster coach who makes sure his players go to bed on time or they get cut and who is trying to bring in every player he ever coached at a college who has trouble producing quality nfl players
oh they also dont have a qb and a racist redneck starts at wr for them
sounds awesome
believe me now sunshine?
and thats coming from frank gore...one of the most respected players in the nfl
If a player doesn't want to play for a "tough" coach then that's fine and his right to make that choice. I find that to be weak on their part.
Being a taskmaster isn't a bad thing nor is being strong willed. I'd take that any day over some pushover.
I don't believe this will be an issue in the big picture. Right now it is being made more of an issue because of his decisions to dump DeSean, Shady and Maclin - couple that with Gore changing his mind and now its a crisis in some peoples eyes.
And for the record Chip needs to be held accountable and I do not support them dealing Shady, didn't support them dumping DeSean and wanted Maclin back. But I am also willing to let him make his moves and see how it ends up. I also don't have any sympathy for players who go elsewhere because they deem him tough or divisive. Man up.
QuoteEliot Shorr-Parks @EliotShorrParks 2m2 minutes ago
I know the players I talk to, on and off record, in #Eagles locker room love Chip.
Of course he's going to say that he's Chips puppet.
So anything that doesn't fit the narrative of the Eagles being a lousy destination and Chip being overbearing will be dismissed?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 12:16:10 PM
If a player doesn't want to play for a "tough" coach then that's fine and his right to make that choice. (A) I find that to be weak on their part.
Being a taskmaster isn't a bad thing nor is being strong willed. (B) I'd take that any day over some pushover.
I don't believe this will be an issue in the big picture. Right now it is being made more of an issue because of his decisions to dump DeSean, Shady and Maclin - couple that with Gore changing his mind and now its a crisis in some peoples eyes.
(C) And for the record Chip needs to be held accountable and I do not support them dealing Shady, didn't support them dumping DeSean and wanted Maclin back. But I am also willing to let him make his moves and see how it ends up.
(A) player who is regarded as one of the toughest players to ever play in the league is now all of a sudden weak cause he doesnt want to have a bedtime...besides thats not the point...the concern here is that chip is shrinking the pool of available players by driving some away and that culture and system trump talent
(B) because there is nothing between a smoothie king and a pushover right?
(C) chip needs to be held accountable and i hate all his moves but i fully support him because hes the coach of my favorite team and anything else would be blasephemous
A - his toughness as a player is not in question. He's a beast on the field. But choosing the path of least resistance when it comes to a HC I find to be somewhat soft. Is every other team wide open to every player or do players avoid them? Or is it just the Eagles? This isn't some new revelation here man.
B - wut?
C - I support him because I think he's a good coach. I also support him because he is the coach of my favorite team and he's not given me a reason to dislike him otherwise. I do not like the personnel moves but I am just a fan. I have thought many players were going to be good and they ended up sucking so what do I know?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 12:45:06 PM
I am just a fan.
you should use this as your default reply to every eagle post you make for the rest of your life
Both of you need to take a good, long look at your lives.
i love what i see
lol me too - I gotta wear shades!
PS - so if I am using "I am just a fan" as my default then everyone else should too.
That would make message boarding a great thing - we'd have great discussions!
"Eagles sign _____"
"I'm just a fan"
thats basically you in a nutshell....
you are a fan of the player who is traded or released because he was an eagle
you are a fan of the player who is signed or drafted becaue they are now an eagle
but you also are a fan of the coach who trades or releases your eagles because he coaches the eagles
you are just an all around fan
And you're not a fan?
Of the skins, maybe.
For the Eagles, he's a hippo.
Still DGAF about Gore. Thought Johnson would've been a nice option though even for a year or two.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 10, 2015, 01:40:48 PM
Still DGAF about Gore. Thought Johnson would've been a nice option though even for a year or two.
At least there was interest in Johnson meaning they're not planning on going into the season with what they have now.
Quote from: SD on March 10, 2015, 01:55:33 PM
At least there was interest in Johnson meaning they're not planning on going into the season with what they have now.
i didnt think there was any chance they were going into next year with what they have now but still a part of me thought the same thing when the report of eagle interest in dre came out
Two words: ANDREW. LUCK.
Close thread.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 01:30:45 PM
And you're not a fan?
i am but we are complete opposites...
you are the fan who follows players on twitter and facebook and probably talked shtein to cowboy fans after their green bay loss
im not even a fan of the eagles i root for philadelphia
you are the fan who within six months of the eagles moving to LA would take houston on as your new team
im the fan who would never watch pro football again
im an unbiased honest critic who happens to love my team
you are the eagle version of art from ES
Don't say things you can't take back.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 01:30:45 PM
And you're not a fan?
you are the eagle version of art from ES
There are some things you just don't say even to your worst enemy igy.
ok ok...that may have been going too far
the ghost of bubba then?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 02:55:35 PM
ok ok...that may have been going too far
the ghost of bubba then?
Phreak is a smart dude. Bubba wasn't.
I come here when I hear Eagles news and expect that 90% of the time Phreak will have a positive take on it and 90% of the time you'll have a negative take. Thin line between realist and cynic and also between optimist and homer. You guys are yin and yang to each other at least as far as my expectations go regarding Eagles reactions.
im an admitted critic but j is 1 million times more of a homer than i am a hater...its actually hurtful to me to lump me in there with him like that
lol I am not really that big of a homer when compared to the ES crew and the Cowboys fans.
I don't follow players on Facebook though.
I wouldn't pick a new team if the Eagles moved to LA - I'd burn Lurie's house down.
it may not be houston...it might be the LA eagles but no chance you dont have a favorite team in the nfl...your favorite part of the sport is shtein talking about your team to other fans and you couldnt do that without a squad plus you need players to fawn over
kind of cool how a thread for a player who never became an eagle is 5 pages deep now.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 03:17:35 PM
it may not be houston...it might be the LA eagles but no chance you dont have a favorite team in the nfl...your favorite part of the sport is shtein talking about your team to other fans and you couldnt do that without a squad plus you need players to fawn over
I'd be crushed and I would burn Lurie's house down - I am not taking on another team
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 03:37:17 PM... and I would burn Lurie's house down
Duly noted. -- FBI, ATF, Secret Service, NSA, and friends.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 10, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 03:37:17 PM... and I would burn Lurie's house down
Duly noted. -- FBI, ATF, Secret Service, NSA, and friends.
Haha. That was the first thing I thought, too.
lol well lets see what happens if he ever moves the team.
Will you guys please write to me in prison? And send me money for my commissary?
Me and igy can argue over snail mail!
BTW:
QuoteMalcolm Jenkins @MalcolmJenkins · 15m 15 minutes ago
Is it too late to tell these guys "Philly ain't bad at all" ... Chip is a great guy! And who doesn't like sports science and Cheesesteaks?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 03:57:28 PM
lol well lets see what happens if he ever moves the team.
Will you guys please write to me in prison? And send me money for my commissary?
Me and igy can argue over snail mail!
lil guy can take care of the conjugal visits.
what a great thread
QuoteAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter 12s12 seconds ago
Colts officially announced deal for former 49ers/Eagles RB Frank Gore. It includes $8.5 million guaranteed.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 06:09:52 PM
QuoteAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter 12s12 seconds ago
Colts officially announced deal for former 49ers/Eagles RB Frank Gore. It includes $8.5 million guaranteed.
A million more guaranteed than with the Eagles.
But he probably changed his mind because he was scared of playing for Taskmaster Chip after all those years of playing for that big soft Hoyda Jim Harbaugh.
its not probably it was sourced numerous times that this was an issue for gore and for that matter around the league....in fact they directly quoted a friend of gore's
the extra mil was probably because he had already verbaled to chip so he was like if im gonna do a 180 make it worth my while
but if you think all is well in chippyland then be my guest
shtein tra thomas went on record today and said the racism thing Stephen A brought up is a real thing with some players and coaches and in fact has been talked about amongst people inside the eagles own locker room
Total and utter farging idiocy. Well done.
I don't doubt that some players are retarded enough to believe that the Eagles are basically a white power organization because they resigned Riley Cooper. Cooper is the gift that keeps on giving. Worst starting WR in football and drives away good players to boot. But hey, he can block, or something.
the tra thomas thing is sour grapes
for whatever reason...maybe because hes black and chip hates negroes.....he wasnt hired as a coach. tra feels bitter. looks like he realized coaching aint his thing so hes going to say a bunch of shtein in hopes of being an analyst. if he wanted to coach, hed shut his mouth and find another job. instead, he's making movies. its fine. but beware of the words of those seeking the spotlight
anyway no chip kelly isnt a racist but yes he rubs people the wrong way like every single football coach ever
Quote from: Rome on March 10, 2015, 06:45:55 PM
Total and utter farging idiocy.
it is....the suggestion that hes racist is repulsive....he obviously isn't
but that doesn't matter....the perception is more harmful to the eagles than the reality...and when you add it to the other concerns moving around the league....his training and practice methods....his sport science...his system first philosophy that tells players they aren't important.....him blowing up the team by getting rid of so much talent....his overall god complex...add it all up and its a big concern
If someone is stupid enough to believe Kelly is a racist I want nothing to do with him.
I mean for farg's sake...
that's fine...but it doesn't change the fact that lots of athletes are dumb and even if this eliminates 5% of the pool of players available to them its a disadvantage
Athletes are dumb, but it wasn't athletes that paid Riley Cooper and kicked Jackson, Maclin and McCoy to the curb.
Maybe Gore got wind of the Bradford trade.
That would explain the crying that was reported. He was dying of laughter.