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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 25, 2012, 11:22:14 AM
Starters?

Quote"He doesn't need Vinny Curry to motivate him," Washburn said, referring to the fact that the Eagles spent a second-round pick on another defensive end. "He's got everything to motivate him. He's been beat down. That's the way it goes, right? You're a first-round draft choice. You don't produce great the first year. The guy up north [Jason Pierre-Paul] playing his ass off. People throw that in his face all the time. Somebody said, 'You gonna pimp him to death?' I said uh-uh. I don't have to. I don't need to."

Quote from: SunMo on July 25, 2012, 09:11:50 AM
if anybody wants to stop by qtown and have a beer with me either on their way up or back let me know.

Quote from: Rome on July 25, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Phreak/FF/Paco/Ed... what was the name of that bar in Hellertown we went to?

Quote from: mussa on July 25, 2012, 02:36:17 PM
I'll be up next week probably for a morning session then lunch at http://www.facebook.com/TheWoodenMatch (http://www.facebook.com/TheWoodenMatch)

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...But Harris' situation isn't one of a normal undrafted rookie. During his abbreviated college career, he was really good. He was an All-America punt returner for the Ducks in 2010 and was great in coverage too. In 27 college games, Harris had eight interceptions, 38 passes broken up and 67 tackles. He was a second team All-Pac 10 corner as a sophomore.

But he played just six games as a junior in 2011 – he had one INT and nine tackles – before he was suspended and then released by the team in December for violating team rules. A drug arrest ultimately led to his dismissal but before that came team suspensions for traffic violations. The drug arrest was just the final straw.

At one point, Harris was certainly going to be drafted. Then his suspension and dismissal from the Oregon team made his draft status fall. And, it fell to the point that he never got a phone call.

That is until after the draft, when he heard from Andy Reid, Howie Roseman and the Eagles – a team willing to take a chance on a player with a troubled past.

QuotePackers released SS Charlie Peprah.
Peprah received a $50,000 workout bonus in the spring and was due only $1 million in base salary. The move is a big surprise on the first day of training camp, although Peprah missed all of OTA season with knee woes and might not have been healthy. A 14-game starter in 2011, Peprah intercepted five passes and recorded 94 tackles. The Packers may turn to M.D. Jennings at strong safety, assuming they don't just move Charles Woodson there full time. Jul 25 - 4:17 PM

Quote from: General_Failure on July 25, 2012, 05:30:45 PM
I didn't think pictures of guys walking in to training camp would need photoshop butchering, but here we are.

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 25, 2012, 03:00:36 PM

Quote from: mussa on July 25, 2012, 02:36:17 PM
I'll be up next week probably for a morning session then lunch at http://www.facebook.com/TheWoodenMatch (http://www.facebook.com/TheWoodenMatch)

only walk thrus in the mornings now...you gotta go for the 245 session if you wanna see anything

Quote from: SunMo on July 25, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
I haven't been there yet but I've heard that place is great.

If any of you guys are into cigars you need to check out Cigar International.

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2012, 08:24:26 AM
im sure its that im by nature a very negative person but all ive done since camp started yesterday is wait for news to come out that shady has blown out his knee

Quote"How tough will final cuts be considering your depth on the d-line?"

Washburn: "World needs ditch diggers too."

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"Will Fletcher Cox's development have to be accelerated with Mike Patterson out indefinitely?"

Washburn: He's going to be accelerated anyway. He's a good player and he's got to play. We're going to try to have the four tackles be starters, and then somebody comes out first. He's a mature guy anyway. I spent time with him at our facility, took him out to eat, and found out who he was. He's mature and he's savvy. I gave him a riddle two nights ago, the hardest riddle I had, and the next morning he told me he had the answer to the riddle. I said, 'You Google'd it, didn't you?' and he said, 'Yeah I did, I cheated.' He's clever and he's smart. He's country smart."

"What was the riddle?"

Washburn: "I don't know, too complicated for me to remember."

"What do you expect from your group this year compared to last year?"

Washburn: "I hope a whole lot better. No excuse, but they didn't know my name, I didn't know their name, we met at that meeting room upstairs at that student center and I had to introduce myself. This is a whole new defense and it was just different. I look at the first game and all the plays we screwed up, especially against the run ... I look at Atlanta and St. Louis and it's painful to watch our technique. They didn't know what I wanted and I just didn't do a good job getting it across. We didn't have time. It was sort of a mess. No excuse, it's just life. Other teams were in the same situation, but it seems like they know what we want now. It's going to be so much better. No way. It's got to be a lot better.

"It comes everywhere. They [had] more front four sacks than anybody's had in a lot of years, but that's because we had talented players. We have really good talent. We started figuring it out at the end. I'll be crushed, hell, I'll quit if it ain't a whole lot better. They can even fire my ass if we're not a whole lot better. We should be a lot better. Trent Cole had no idea what we were doing when we started this last year. Babin had some idea. I got good players. Tell you what. Said it before. This ain't no company line. But the Eagles will get you players. I've been other places where if you lost a player, you were dead in the water. Somebody said you got a great player, I said no, we got a whole bunch of good ones. I'd rather have a whole bunch of good'uns than some average 'uns, wouldn't ya'all?

"Where does Brandon Graham fit in?"

Washburn: "He fits. He's a whole lot better. Changing his habits in his life. I think he got serious. I don't know. He was a good player in college. He was. I watched every game he played. Good player. Got too heavy. Lost some weight. Should be a good player here. He wasn't even with us out here, was he? He's a good kid and I think that he's like all of us, when you suffer setbacks in your life at 21, 22 years old, it's hard. Try to remember when you were that age. He was a stud and all of a sudden he goes to not being a part of the team and not playing. When you're rehabbing, sometimes you pick up weight and he has a tendency to get a little heavy. I'm happy for him and I can't imagine him not having a really good year."

"Will Brandon be motivated by you guys drafting Vinny Curry?"

Washburn: "He doesn't need Vinny Curry to motivate him. He's got everything to motivate him. He's been beat down. That's the way it goes. When you're a first-round draft choice and you don't produce great the first year. The guy up north (Giants' DE Jason Pierre-Paul) is playing his ass off, and people throw that in his face all the time. But I can't imagine him not having a really good year."

"Can you stop the run playing the Wide 9?"

Washburn: "Everybody talks about the Wide 9, but we just move a guy three feet. It's 54 percent pass on first down. I can get a 290-pounder out there to play the run 100 times better than Babin or Phillip Hunt and you're conceding 54 percent of the time, but what we want is to have our cake and eat it too. Want to be able to get in a position where you can pass-rush and play the run equally well. We've been the top two or three in the league in rush defense playing the same front. There's some snakes into every defense you play. You play 3-4, there's some places they can get you. I just think after a year we know where the snakes are."

"Is Trent Cole the most complete defensive end you've ever had?"

Washburn: "Never had one that did everything as good as he does. Every coach says he doesn't read the papers, but most coaches lie, but I try not to lie because I'm smart enough to figure out. Don't listen to anybody, but the comments I did hear about him in the past, before I got here from everybody, was how his production dropped off at the end of the year. But I knew playing two groups as we did would [help him]. And he ended up getting six sacks in the last four games. Seriously. It [rotation] works. [In previous years], he was worn out at the end, he had played a lot of snaps. Because he wanted to play them. He told me when I first got here, I ain't rotating. Said it right up there in that meeting room. Said, 'Yes you are or you ain't going to play.' He's a great kid, Trent."

"What benefit does having interchangeable tackles and ends give you?"

Washburn: "I'm going to move everybody everywhere. Interchangeable is a good word, isn't it? [Fletcher Cox] is going to play on passing downs, he's going to have to move around. Watching Justin Smith [49ers defensive tackle] last night, who might be the best defensive player in the league, standing up some just to have fun with it. Make it hard for [opposing teams]. Make them spend time practicing that. Everybody acts like you're coming up with something new, but we just took the tackles and put them outside, took the ends and put them inside and stood up the ends and ran the exact same defense that we run regular. Just make them spend time on it. We were playing somebody, they had shown the Wildcat two weeks before, and we spent time on the Wildcat and they don't run it. So what did they do showing it two weeks before? It made us use valuable practice time getting ready for it."

"Where does Phillip Hunt fit in?"

Washburn: "He fits in real good. I like him a lot. Make no mistake. He goes to church with me and my wife. This is cool. Good person, good football player. ... He thinks he's 6-6. He's a good one. We have a bunch of good ones. This might be the best group of people I've ever coached."

"How tough will final cuts be considering your depth on the d-line?"

Washburn: "World needs ditch diggers too."

Washburn, on Darryl Tapp: "Darryl's a good player, isn't he? Why has he not been better than he has been in the past? I remember that game in Seattle when he had 4 1/2 sacks. I loved him. I coached him in the Senior Bowl. It's funny. We played the Eagles in Nashville two years ago, remember that? Ya'all might have been down there. Darryl came down to me before the game and said, 'Wash, when am I ever going to get with you?' At the Senior Bowl, thought we were made for each other. You never know what the Lord's got in store. Sure enough, here we are. He's a good person. If you want to know who the energy source of our group is at practice, it's Darryl. I didn't play him enough [last year]. He only played I think 29 percent of our snaps last year [29.5 percent]."

"Surprised Vinny Curry didn't get drafted in the first round?"

Washburn: "I love Vinny. I kept asking the scouts, how's that guy from Marshall doing? 'He's doing good, but he's got problems.' What are his problems? 'His mom died.' Well, his mom died and the circumstances in which she died [liver cancer], I'd have problems too. But he's a good person. We got one guy from Neptune, N.J. [Curry], the other guy from Yazoo City, Miss. [Fletcher Cox], 21-, 22-year old guys. Good guys.

"Tell you again, this is a great group of people. If my daughter dated Phillip Hunt or Darryl Tapp or any of those guys, I'd be proud... I think [Curry's] 40 time at the Combine ruined him. Ruined him. I forget what he ran, but he ran slow at the Combine [4.92], and all of a sudden he's a really good player and he went to nothing because he ran one 40 and it sucked. Then he went to his Pro Day and ran fast. I went over and worked him out. I ain't care what he runs at the Combine. Who cares?"

"How are you going to stop the run with this defense?"

Washburn: "Jeff [Fisher] would say, 'You've got to run the ball and stop the run,' and that was in 1999, and that was true. But right now? You can stop the run all you want, but if you can't stop the pass, you're dead. You've got to be able to stop it all to a degree, but it's like the Packers finished last in [pass and overall] defense [last year] and went 15-1. You got Aaron Rodgers.

Jeff said, 'You've got to be able to run the ball in December.' Eddie George carried it 400 times a year and his career went pow, like that. He got it from Buddy [Ryan in Philly]. Run the ball in December. Meanwhile, shoot, Aaron Rodgers is throwing it 60 times in Lambeau in January. Doesn't matter. [If I were an offensive coach] I'd throw it. I'm sorry, but I'd throw it a bunch. I'd be able to run the ball, but I'd throw the ball."

On working with legendary offensive line coach Howard Mudd

Washburn: "It's fun to know that we were against each other for so many years. He called me on Friday nights after the week was over and asked me how practice went. I would sit there and tell him that he's a crazy son of a gun. We sit on the bench an hour before the games and talk about motorcycles or something. Now, to actually see him, all of the stuff that I used to think was so ungodly complicated actually wasn't. All along, it looked so difficult. John Madden said he's the best assistant coach ever. The best thing about Howard coming here is that I don't ever have to coach against Howard ever again. He's so much better than I was, it's a joke. He probably liked going against me."

"Where are you guys now as a staff compared to last year?"

Washburn: "Night and day. We should be. I mean, it was Mike Caldwell's first year [as linebackers coach], Mike Zordich's first year [as safeties coach], Juan Castillo's first year [as defensive coordinator]. Johnnie Lynn [who was fired after one year as corners coach] was a veteran, but he had never been in this group. Learning process for everybody. Learning the players, learning a new system. No excuses, because everybody had a lockout. But we should have been a lot better."

"What are your early impressions of new safeties coach Todd Bowles?"

Washburn: "I like him. Seems like a really good person. I think he's a solid person. The first time Bowles stood up in front of a defensive meeting, guys in the back row, all my guys, usually like this [leans back in his seat, disinterested]. I looked and they were all like this [leaning forward, paying attention]. Wow. Sort of commanded some attention."

"Do you think Juan needs to blitz more this year?"

Washburn: "To me, the best thing to do would be if you can get there with four and lead the league in sacks and quarterback knockdowns and tackles for loss. Now you've got seven guys back there you can do a lot of different things with. I think you need to blitz, but I'm not so sure you need to do it so much on third down, I think you probably need to blitz on earlier downs. But if you can rush with four, why would you put your guys in man coverage if you can get there?"

"Why blitz on second down?"

Washburn: "To give them some different looks. People think you just blitz to get the passer, but run blitzes are huge in this league, always have been, so if you know it's a running down what you want to do -- and a running down is sort of iffy now -- then you want to bring a run blitz."

"How has NFL defense changed over the years?"

Washburn: "Used to be like ... this is the truth ... I know it's hard to look at a guy like me and figure I like stats, but 3rd-and-1 in the old days, God dang, you might even put your goal-line defense out there. But 3rd-and-1 now is 48 perent pass. 3rd-and-2, well, there was no question it was still run, but 3rd-and-2 is 67 percent pass. And 3rd-and-3 is 88 percent pass. Go to pro-football-reference.com.

"Decade of the 80s, how many 4,000-yard passers were there? There might have been 10 or 12 (actually 14). And there were 14 last year [actually 10]. It's unbelievable. It's just a passing league now. I went to California recruiting [for New Mexico] in 1980, and they were doing all these passing leagues, and the guy I went with said, 'Wash, you're seeing the future,' and I started coaching in the Western Athletic Conference, they were throwing. Back home [in the SEC] they were running the Wishbone and killing each other. Out [West], they started throwing the ball. We played Jim McMahon [of BYU] in our first game in New Mexico. Andy Reid was the left offensive tackle. And they were throwing the ball, and all my buddies back home said, 'How is it out there,' and I said, 'It's crazy man.'

"And now it's evolved into this. How many offensive lines now do you see who look like Buffalo's [in the early 1990s] -- with the House, [325-pound tackle Howard] Ballard, and [310-pound tackle] Will Wolford, all those guys? You see more athletic offensive linemen now, and as a result they're not knocking people off the ball. The plays that gave us problems last year weren't the power plays and the pushing us off and knocking us off the ball but tricking us. Traps and whams, all this stuff, and that's what it's become, because they want more athletic linemen and you don't see many big people. This is the way I'm seeing it. Just look at the stats. Go look. You'll see what's happened.

"Last year, there were three 5,000-yard passers. [Bengals rookie] Andy Dalton? Throws for [nearly] 3,500 yards and [Panthers rookie] Cam Newton throws for 4,000 yards, and they're just flingin' it in the air, and they make the rules where you don't hit the receivers and you can hold, so everything lends to the passing game, TV ratings and everything. How many games 7-3 do you see anymore? (Former Eagles all-pro defensive end] William Fuller, who was a great great player, is in camp [coaching], and he said, 'Man, I remember being in so many 10-7 games.' Not anymore. It's a passing league. So all we try to do with the 9-technique was try to get a pass rush on first down. You didn't want to sign a defensive end, No. 1 draft choice and put him playing over the tight end on 2nd and 8."

"How do you feel that Juan Castillo handled last year?"

Washburn: "He stuck in there when times got dark. He was mentally tough. The only thing you can do is just keep working. It's hard. It's hard. He had to talk to the press every day, too, didn't he? That must have been just absolutely miserable. I can't even imagine. But yeah, the mark of a good man, Abraham Lincoln said, it ain't about getting knocked down, it's about getting back up. You've got to have thick skin and learn from your mistakes.

"So many times I admit I screwed up. It was hard I'm sure. It was hard on all of us. But you know what, the more you don't let the outside influences bother you, the better chance you have. I just surround myself with my players and say, 'Hey, Wash, I'm just going to coach.' Keep my head down and don't let the outside influences get to you. Because you can have problems. A lot of coaches in this league, they Google themselves. They do now. I'm just telling you. I think it's insecurity or something, I don't know. it's just important believing what you know is right."

"What could you do last year to help Juan?"

Washburn: "To coach my guys the best I can. There's no consoling, cheerleading, anything. I just get my guys to play the best they can. I ain't in charge of winning and losing. I'm just in charge of defensive line and doing the best I can. That's my job. And I need to do a better job than I did last year. I have to."

"How much will you miss Mike Patterson?"

Washburn: "He's a constant. Every time I turn on the film on Monday I know he's going to play good. He's a constant guy. He might not make a million plays, but he's always where he's supposed to be and always doing the right thing and that was a wonderful feeling to have a guy out there you knew was going to play the same every week. There's four positions out there and he always where he's supposed to be, played hard. It's hard to stomach a loss like that. Hope he's back sooner than later."

"You talk about defensive tackle Cedric Thornton a lot. What do you like about him?"

Washburn: "He's big, strong, tough. Just raw. Doesn't know what he doesn't know. But he wants to be a football player, and you think I'm just BS'ing you, but he's just another great kid. That room's just full of great people. I'm not just saying it. I'm not lying. I can't lie. That's why they don't want me to talk. But it's the absolute truth. My wife went out to Del Frisco's, big dinner, my wife's the only female in there, she said this is the best bunch of kids I've ever been around."

"What do you think about defensive tackle Antonio Dixon?"

Washburn: "A lot more after the spring. He's a talent. I couldn't tell [last year]. He was so heavy and out of shape. I couldn't tell what he was. It was disgusting how out of shape he was. He had all these injuries and no off-season, but he looked so much different in the spring, I'm so excited about him. Got himself in shape and made a commitment. I didn't know what he had, but he got himself in shape. ... He worked his butt off, and he's down to maybe 330 from 360 or whatever it was. I said, 'Wow, this guy has some quickness and he likes to play.' He's tough, and he has ability. I was pleasantly surprised.

"I'm excited about him. He's a really good person, and he really wants to be a good player. I like him a lot and he's going to help us."

"How did Dixon get back in shape so quickly?"

Washburn: "Two words. [Eagles strength and coordinator director] Barry Rubin. Barry Rubin. Barry. Rubin. Two words. He's a good one."

"Howard said his group got a C or D the first half of last year and an A or B the second half. How would you grade your guys?"

Washburn: "I couldn't say. I know we got better. He's a lot smarter than I am. He's a genius. He could have been a doctor, lawyer. I either had to do this or be a Merchant Marine, construction worker. Good guy. I've been blessed, whether it's Howard's last year or not, when he walked away from the Colts, he gave me a sideline jacket that hangs in my closet. I gave him my sideline jacket. Isn't that cool?

"So anyway, Howard's coat is in my closet. Isn't that cool? It's just a privilege to get to coach with somebody like him. It's a privilege to be here with the Eagles. I like Andy, I like Juan. It's a good place. I look out there on the field, and say, 'Thank you Lord. Thanks for this chance for an ignorant country boy like me.' Look at the mountains [behind Lehigh] and everything here. It's cool. Get to coach football."

QuoteJim Washburn yells at you first and hugs you later. We know that about him by now. Today, he ripped into rookie Vinny Curry for jumping offsides on what Washburn deemed the worst hard count he's ever heard out of Nick Foles.

Quote from: SD on July 27, 2012, 07:16:56 PM
I'll be there Sunday the 5th

Havas I'm assuming you'll be in your normal spot last row middle bleachers

Quote from: SD on July 27, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
Let me take a stab at your attire: Kelly Green Eagles throwback cap, "Winning is for the Birds' T-shirt, and khaki colored carpri's. How'd I do?

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2012, 05:56:34 PM
Do they sign Plax now? Wouldn't be a bad idea.

Quote from: General_Failure on July 28, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Get TO, Moss, and Plax. Then chop them up and sew together the best parts.

Quote from: Cheesesteak on July 29, 2012, 09:42:19 AM
Yo Phreak, bummer you won't be able to make it to camp this year....I always look forward to your informative reports.   

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2012, 09:55:05 AM
his reports can pretty much be summed up like this: "everyone looks amazing including mike gasperson and anything short of a superbowl win this year would be shocking"

Quote from: Cheesesteak on July 29, 2012, 11:20:37 AM
So he's Spadaro is what you're saying?

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 29, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
Apparently this Emil Igegwanu dude is straight trucking guys. Look test mega-pass.

Quote from: Cheesesteak on July 29, 2012, 09:42:19 AM
Yo Phreak, bummer you won't be able to make it to camp this year....I always look forward to your informative reports.   I think this season has real potential and a whole new feeling(cough cough banner gone?) seems to be in the air.  To bad the schedule is pretty f'n tough.   Take it easy brother

Quote from: SD on July 29, 2012, 09:51:03 AM

Quote from: Cheesesteak on July 29, 2012, 09:42:19 AM
Yo Phreak, bummer you won't be able to make it to camp this year....I always look forward to your informative reports.   

I miss Jay's 8 page daily in depth reports of Eagles camp:

"At one point during practice Welbourn - with sweat running down his face - dogged it on a play. Castillo ran over to him, grabbed his facemask and got in his face to make a point. The next play Welbourn fired out and pancaked ND Kalu. You could tell Castillo's talk with Welbourn made a difference"

Quote from: Rome on July 29, 2012, 11:25:29 AM
Jay is gonna kick SO MUCH ASS when he sees this.

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2012, 08:36:03 PM
lol...i got nothing but love for you son....maybe the only homer on the planet i like...who else is gonna blindly send you a trotter jersey but daddy

Quote from: Diomedes on July 30, 2012, 06:25:47 PM
WR Ron Johnson dislocated his ankle. 

That's two irrelevant WRs down now.

QuoteBabin, who got hurt during 1-on-1 drills at a training camp practice at Lehigh on Saturday afternoon, was unable to take his MRI until Monday because he hadn't yet passed the thermometer that the players routinely swallow that measures their temperature during practice.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 31, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
You know the thermometer is the size of an aspirin, right?

Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2012, 08:34:48 PM
He passed it yesterday.  You folks are awful late.

Get an MRI with that thing still in there and all kinds of bad times will be had.

Quote from: Rome on August 02, 2012, 05:34:14 PM
Me & Joe were in Tampa and that dickface blew us off at the stadium.  Too busy he said.

Um wut.

Quote from: hbionic on August 02, 2012, 06:08:16 PM
Chris McPherson sounds like a total douche bag. He should define that word. Why would you want to talk to him?

QuoteAdam Schefter
Reason Andy Reid is not at practice is he's dealing with a "personal issue", according to team spokesman. Eagles will update after practice.

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Breaking: Eagles beat reporter Tim McManus reporting that Andy Reid is not at the Eagles morning practice. Eagles spokesman said Reid is fine, but players knelt and prayed for a few minutes. Players are not currently speaking to media. Stay tuned to the Fanatic for any changing in details.

QuoteKurt Coleman ‏@k4coleman
Prayers and condolences go out. May God protect us and serve us in this time of need.

Quote from: SD on August 05, 2012, 09:48:21 AM
Garrett Reid, Andy's oldest son, was found dead this morning in his room at Lehigh.

Quote from: SD on August 05, 2012, 10:39:02 AM
Afternooon practice cancelled

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 05, 2012, 11:53:58 AM

Quote from: SD on August 05, 2012, 10:39:02 AM
Afternooon practice cancelled

Tweets now indicate that it will go on at 2:45 as scheduled.

Quote from: hbionic on August 05, 2012, 12:29:42 PM
this fargs everyone else almost as bad as the person offing themselves.

Quote from: DH on August 06, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
Ive said it before and Ill say it again and again and again...just stick to smoking weed and nothing bad (such as being found dead in a dormroom) will ever happen to you.

Quote from: DH on August 06, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
Ive said it before and Ill say it again and again and again...just stick to smoking weed and nothing bad (such as being found dead in a dormroom) will ever happen to you.

Quote from: Rome on August 06, 2012, 01:34:40 PM

Quote from: DH on August 06, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
Ive said it before and Ill say it again and again and again...just stick to smoking weed and nothing bad (such as being found dead in a dormroom) will ever happen to you.

You have a little something on your nose there, brudda.

;)

QuoteOn behalf of Tammy and our family, I would like to thank everybody for their tremendous support, love, kind words and prayers during this time of great sadness. Words cannot express our sense of loss.

We loved Garrett so much. He was a wonderful son and brother. He made us laugh, he was a pleasure to be around, he always had a smile on his face, and we will miss him dearly. We will never forget him, and we will remember him with love.

Garrett's road through life was not always an easy one. He faced tremendous personal challenges with bravery and spirit. As a family, we stood by him and were inspired as he worked to overcome those challenges. Even though he lost the battle that has been ongoing for the last eight years, we will always remember him as a fighter who had a huge, loving heart.

I spoke with the team yesterday and thanked them for their thoughts and prayers. I asked them to continue with their preparations for the upcoming season until I am ready to rejoin the team.

It is in times like these that we lean on our faith, our family, our friends, and our Eagles family. We will do so in the difficult times ahead.

Thank you again for your continued support,
Andy Reid

Quote from: shorebird on August 07, 2012, 07:20:37 AM
You don't have any chillin's so you can't begin to know anything about this.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
There's nothing worse than parents getting all sentimental about tragedies that happen to other people's children. It's so farging indulgent and only serves for people to say 'oh look at me I love my child and am compelled to wax philosophic about how much I love my children and this tragedy/feel good news story/rain cloud finally gives me the opportunity to let it all out'. EVERYONE is someone's child. Every sad thing that has ever happened to anyone happened to someone's child. Garrett Reid was 29 farging years old. It's not like a three year old got eaten by a bear dingo here. Spend more time parenting and less time thinking about how amazing your offspring are and telling me about it.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
There's nothing worse than parents getting all sentimental about tragedies that happen to other people's children. It's so farging indulgent and only serves for people to say 'oh look at me I love my child and am compelled to wax philosophic about how much I love my children and this tragedy/feel good news story/rain cloud finally gives me the opportunity to let it all out'. EVERYONE is someone's child. Every sad thing that has ever happened to anyone happened to someone's child. Garrett Reid was 29 farging years old. It's not like a three year old got eaten by a bear here. Spend more time parenting and less time thinking about how amazing your offspring are and telling me about it.

Quote from: General_Failure on August 07, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Parents who do drugs, have children who do drugs.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
There's nothing worse than parents getting all sentimental about tragedies that happen to other people's children. It's so farging indulgent and only serves for people to say 'oh look at me I love my child and am compelled to wax philosophic about how much I love my children and this tragedy/feel good news story/rain cloud finally gives me the opportunity to let it all out'. EVERYONE is someone's child. Every sad thing that has ever happened to anyone happened to someone's child. Garrett Reid was 29 farging years old. It's not like a three year old got eaten by a bear here. Spend more time parenting and less time thinking about how amazing your offspring are and telling me about it.

Quote from: shorebird on August 07, 2012, 03:45:47 PM
Also, most of the time it's the son or daughter that buries the parent, not the other way around.

Quote from: shorebird on August 07, 2012, 03:45:47 PM

Quote from: General_Failure on August 07, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Parents who do drugs, have children who do drugs.

Andy Reid does drugs? That explains a lot of late game management.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
There's nothing worse than parents getting all sentimental about tragedies that happen to other people's children. It's so farging indulgent and only serves for people to say 'oh look at me I love my child and am compelled to wax philosophic about how much I love my children and this tragedy/feel good news story/rain cloud finally gives me the opportunity to let it all out'. EVERYONE is someone's child. Every sad thing that has ever happened to anyone happened to someone's child. Garrett Reid was 29 farging years old. It's not like a three year old got eaten by a bear here. Spend more time parenting and less time thinking about how amazing your offspring are and telling me about it.

I'm not trying to say that at all, I'm just saying it's a lot harder for them and a lot more things out there that can kill kids nowadays then it ever was 15 years or so ago. Also, most of the time it's the son or daughter that buries the parent, not the other way around.

Quote from: Don Ho on August 07, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
service today?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2012, 03:55:30 PM

Quote from: shorebird on August 07, 2012, 03:45:47 PM
Also, most of the time it's the son or daughter that buries the parent, not the other way around.

thats brilliant analysis there.....older people normally die before younger people....no shtein

Quote from: paco on August 07, 2012, 04:01:02 PM

Quote from: Don Ho on August 07, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
service today?

yup

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Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2012, 04:00:22 PM

Quote from: shorebird on August 07, 2012, 03:45:47 PM

Quote from: General_Failure on August 07, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Parents who do drugs, have children who do drugs.

Andy Reid does drugs? That explains a lot of late game management.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
There's nothing worse than parents getting all sentimental about tragedies that happen to other people's children. It's so farging indulgent and only serves for people to say 'oh look at me I love my child and am compelled to wax philosophic about how much I love my children and this tragedy/feel good news story/rain cloud finally gives me the opportunity to let it all out'. EVERYONE is someone's child. Every sad thing that has ever happened to anyone happened to someone's child. Garrett Reid was 29 farging years old. It's not like a three year old got eaten by a bear here. Spend more time parenting and less time thinking about how amazing your offspring are and telling me about it.

I'm not trying to say that at all, I'm just saying it's a lot harder for them and a lot more things out there that can kill kids nowadays then it ever was 15 years or so ago. Also, most of the time it's the son or daughter that buries the parent, not the other way around.

90 years ago life expectancy was in the 50s and people died young all the time. Weird illnesses. Malnourishment. Massive wars. Workplace accidents. Etc etc.

People have been burying their children for as long as people have been having children and if anything we bury them less now than we ever have at any point in human history. Maybe that highlights how sad it is when it does happen these days, but the spike in meth usage doesn't even come close to representing the kind of threat to our younger generation as, say, the Viet Nam war or small pox or dingos or any of the 1000s of things that humans had to worry about in years gone by.

Everyone thinks that life was easier or safer when we were coming up. Almost without fail the opposite is true, but because we're flooded with a never-ending stream of bad news on a 24 hour cycle and have access to the worst of human behavior at the press of a button we think the world is a dangerous place. It just isn't true. We're safer than any animal in the natural world has any business being.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 07, 2012, 07:09:42 PM
Condolences to Reid and everything, but I don't need a play by play of the funeral.  I want Nick Foles news.

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2012, 07:21:58 PM

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 07, 2012, 07:09:42 PM
Condolences to Reid and everything, but I don't need a play by play of the funeral.  I want Nick Foles news.

someone said the other day that if you are in the bleachers when foles is getting reps at camp you better be alert

i lol'ed

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 07, 2012, 07:09:42 PMBlah blah And when you think about improvements made such as workplace safety (specifically in manual labor industries), I'm pretty sure people are dying less frequently today than at any point in history. Blah

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 07, 2012, 05:49:17 PM
You do know that drugs and alcohol aren't really all that new, right?  They've been killing people for a few thousand years now. 

QuoteThe whole "no parent should ever have to bury their child" sentiment is so farging annoying and one of the most awful cliches I've ever heard.   

Quote from: DH on August 08, 2012, 08:50:27 AM
It isnt going to be aired live? farg me.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
I'd have a lot more respect for him if he was spending this time to grieve with his family.

I'm an eagles fan and him leaving for any extended period of time would be chaos for the team that I root for, but the fact that he's back at work right now makes me sick to my stomach from a human perspective. He's got money a wife and four kids. Get your farging priorities in order you fat tub of shtein.

Quote from: hbionic on August 08, 2012, 12:09:51 PM
He could also be using work to distract himself from the pain.

Quote from: hbionic on August 08, 2012, 12:10:44 PM
SD, you've never asked to be excused for sounding like a Hoyda, why ask now?  :=)

Quote from: SD on August 08, 2012, 12:09:22 PM

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
I'd have a lot more respect for him if he was spending this time to grieve with his family.

I'm an eagles fan and him leaving for any extended period of time would be chaos for the team that I root for, but the fact that he's back at work right now makes me sick to my stomach from a human perspective. He's got money a wife and four kids. Get your farging priorities in order you fat tub of shtein.

It's probably easier to grieve for a person like him when he has his mind on his work. It's at his discretion how he wants to proceed and excuse me for sounding like a Hoyda but I don't think it's right to judge him.

Quote from: SD on August 08, 2012, 12:09:22 PM

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
I'd have a lot more respect for him if he was spending this time to grieve with his family.

I'm an eagles fan and him leaving for any extended period of time would be chaos for the team that I root for, but the fact that he's back at work right now makes me sick to my stomach from a human perspective. He's got money a wife and four kids. Get your farging priorities in order you fat tub of shtein.

It's probably easier to grieve for a person like him when he has his mind on his work. It's at his discretion how he wants to proceed and excuse me for sounding like a Hoyda but I don't think it's right to judge him.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:13:38 PM

Quote from: SD on August 08, 2012, 12:09:22 PM

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
I'd have a lot more respect for him if he was spending this time to grieve with his family.

I'm an eagles fan and him leaving for any extended period of time would be chaos for the team that I root for, but the fact that he's back at work right now makes me sick to my stomach from a human perspective. He's got money a wife and four kids. Get your farging priorities in order you fat tub of shtein.

It's probably easier to grieve for a person like him when he has his mind on his work. It's at his discretion how he wants to proceed and excuse me for sounding like a Hoyda but I don't think it's right to judge him.

Sure. To each his own. But it seems to me that perhaps his family could use him right now and from my perspective, either his priorities are totally farged or he's being awfully selfish in trying to distract himself from the pain.

Regardless, go Eagles.

Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on August 08, 2012, 12:19:21 PM
Or maybe it's just that he barely knew the kid due to the fact he's been a coach at the professional level for his kid's entire lives. It's entirely possible that for all intents he's the definition of an absentee father and the death doesn't register for him like it might the average Joe. He lives his job, not his family. This is pretty much the case of every NFL coach.

Quote from: phattymatty on August 08, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
He grieved for two days...time to try to think of something else.

Quote from: phattymatty on August 08, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
He grieved for two days...time to try to think of something else.

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 12:36:08 PM

Quote from: phattymatty on August 08, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
He grieved for two days...time to try to think of something else.

like gettin that motherfargin jewelry this year!


LETS DO THIS

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 08, 2012, 12:35:22 PM
Like how to get that FB in the flat pass to work on 4th and 1. 

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 12:36:08 PM
like gettin that motherfargin jewelry this year!

Quote from: hbionic on August 08, 2012, 12:37:23 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 12:36:08 PM

Quote from: phattymatty on August 08, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
He grieved for two days...time to try to think of something else.

like gettin that motherfargin jewelry this year!


LETS DO THIS

For Garret

Quote from: DH on August 08, 2012, 12:39:02 PM
As much as I don't believe in it most of the time, I think IGY's point is incredibly accurate here..

this is where one of the few positive aspects of religion shows its face...it helps you deal with death

Quote from: DH on August 08, 2012, 12:42:37 PM
Doesn't "Let's" imply you're part of the team?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 12:47:17 PM

Quote from: DH on August 08, 2012, 12:42:37 PM
Doesn't "Let's" imply you're part of the team?

nah that would be "we can do this"

lets do this is all about the fanwagon

you in?

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
I'd have a lot more respect for him if he was spending this time to grieve with his family.

I'm an eagles fan and him leaving for any extended period of time would be chaos for the team that I root for, but the fact that he's back at work right now makes me sick to my stomach from a human perspective. He's got money a wife and four kids. Get your farging priorities in order you fat tub of shtein.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 12:04:50 PMI'd have a lot more respect for him if he was spending this time to grieve with his family.

I'm an eagles fan and him leaving for any extended period of time would be chaos for the team that I root for, but the fact that he's back at work right now makes me sick to my stomach from a human perspective. He's got money a wife and four kids. Get your farging priorities in order you fat tub of shtein.

Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on August 08, 2012, 12:19:21 PM
Or maybe it's just that he barely knew the kid due to the fact he's been a coach at the professional level for his kid's entire lives. It's entirely possible that for all intents he's the definition of an absentee father and the death doesn't register for him like it might the average Joe. He lives his job, not his family. This is pretty much the case of every NFL coach.

Quote"We all know the correct reaction is 3.5 days off of work, plus 1 family meeting minimum! Followed by refusing to discuss the situation at all press conferences. Also, people who feel sorry for other people with dead kids are sheeple. True thinkers reject the grief-est conformism movement and recognize that since we all have a better life outlook than we used to you should be rationally accepting of when children die."

Quote from: Rome on August 08, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
If Reid was a farging coal miner with a stack of bills to pay and children to feed no one would think twice about him going right back to work, but because he's a football coach he's supposed to stay at home with his wife and children and cry all day and night.    Yeah, I'll pass, thanks.

Quote from: hbionic on August 08, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
Including me?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
i love how andy reids son died because he didnt spend enough time at home...yet there are millions of fathers who spend no time with their children or less time than andy whose children are fine...and theres also many fathers who spend every night with their kids and those kids end up on drugs

just because the guy cant manage a clock doesnt mean you have to say he klled his child

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
just because the guy cant manage a clock doesnt mean you have to say he klled his child

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 07:51:35 PM
You spend 90 hours a week at work and sleep at the office and you've made your decision and you can pretty much assume that your kids are farged.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
I didn't say his being a zesty father killed his son you farging drama queens.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
I said he was a zesty father which is further illustrated in my opinion by the fact that he's already back at work. I also said I'd have more respect for him if he took time to be with his family.

Quote from: Feva on August 08, 2012, 08:08:59 PM
Nobody can tell another man how to grieve. Period. That simple. Why the farg is this even a discussion?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 08:26:55 PM

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 07:51:35 PM
You spend 90 hours a week at work and sleep at the office and you've made your decision and you can pretty much assume that your kids are farged.

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
I didn't say his being a zesty father killed his son you farging drama queens.

you kinda did

Quote from: Feva on August 08, 2012, 08:28:31 PM

Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
I said he was a zesty father which is further illustrated in my opinion by the fact that he's already back at work. I also said I'd have more respect for him if he took time to be with his family.

Quote from: Feva on August 08, 2012, 08:08:59 PM
Nobody can tell another man how to grieve. Period. That simple. Why the farg is this even a discussion?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
i love how andy reids son died because he didnt spend enough time at home...yet there are millions of fathers who spend no time with their children or less time than andy whose children are fine...and theres also many fathers who spend every night with their kids and those kids end up on drugs

just because the guy cant manage a clock doesnt mean you have to say he klled his child

Quote from: SunMo on August 09, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
hey guys, killer discussion

Quote from: SunMo on August 09, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
hey guys, killer discussion

Quote from: Tomahawk on August 09, 2012, 10:03:39 AM

Quote from: SunMo on August 09, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
hey guys, killer discussion

False...the discussion is bad enough to drive a person to suicide

Quote from: SunMo on August 12, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
bunny?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 12, 2012, 07:29:15 PM

Quote from: SunMo on August 12, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
bunny?

lol

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 12, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
im still feeling superbowl but demetress bell is not giving me warm and fuzzies in my bathing suit region

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 12, 2012, 08:08:56 PM
  But surprisingly, I think the Eagles defense was like top 5 in 3rd down efficiency last year. 

Quote from: SD on August 12, 2012, 08:14:38 PM

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 12, 2012, 08:08:56 PM
  But surprisingly, I think the Eagles defense was like top 5 in 3rd down efficiency last year. 

That can't be right they were pathetic

The play that really tipped me over the edge was DRC jumping and driving his shoulder into Leftwich's face on 3rd and long. It's idiotic plays like that scream "we have no discipline".

But really the litmus test for the Eagles D last season was early in games, if the DBs were making a lot of tackles you knew it was going to be a long day.

Quote
Jaiquawn Jarrett slides toward the bottom of the roster
Posted by Mike Florio on August 12, 2012, 7:40 PM EDT

In 2011, the Eagles used a second-round pick on safety Jaiquawn Jarrett.  In 2012, they could be bidding Jarrett adieu.

According to Tim McManus of PhillyMag.com, Jarrett's rocky showing in the preseason opener against the Steelers resulted in Jarrett losing some of his second-string reps to Tom Nelson.

The move has puts Jarrett in danger of being waived.

"That's how it rolls," Jarrett said.  "But I'm going to continue to do what I do, go out here and get better."

Jarrett played at Temple, and he seems to be realizing that the NFL entails a slightly higher level of talent than whatever conference Temple plays in.  (Annnnnnd now I'm going to get a nasty letter from Bill Cosby.)

"Every player is faster and stronger and bigger but it's just about the technique, continue to keep working and taking better angles," Jarrett said.

An angle he may be taking in the future entails the angle between the exit door and the spot where his car is parked.

Quote
Sunk-cost fallacy

When one makes a hopeless investment, one sometimes reasons: I can't stop now, otherwise what I've invested so far will be lost. This is true, of course, but irrelevant to whether one should continue to invest in the project. Everything one has invested is lost regardless. If there is no hope for success in the future from the investment, then the fact that one has already lost a bundle should lead one to the conclusion that the rational thing to do is to withdraw from the project.

Quote from: phattymatty on August 13, 2012, 09:05:20 AM
so is andy's agent being a scumbag by trying to get these contract discussions in the same week as garrett's death or is is a smart move on his part?

i feel like it's not normal for coaches to get extended in the preseason anyway, is it?

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 12, 2012, 08:26:13 PM

Quote from: SD on August 12, 2012, 08:14:38 PM

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 12, 2012, 08:08:56 PM
  But surprisingly, I think the Eagles defense was like top 5 in 3rd down efficiency last year. 

That can't be right they were pathetic

The play that really tipped me over the edge was DRC jumping and driving his shoulder into Leftwich's face on 3rd and long. It's idiotic plays like that scream "we have no discipline".

But really the litmus test for the Eagles D last season was early in games, if the DBs were making a lot of tackles you knew it was going to be a long day.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/downs/sort/thirdDownConvPct/position/defense

Yeah....you're right.  They were middle of the road on 3rd downs last year.  Could have sworn I heard during the broadcast that Baldy or Graham say that they were a top 5 unit last year on 3rd down.  Whatevs. 

QuoteAs practice was winding down Sunday afternoon, Clay Harbor caught a shovel pass in the red zone and rumbled in for the touchdown as Landri tried to strip the ball late. The outcome of the play already determined, Harbor took umbrage with the defensive tackle's aggression and started what he thought would be a typical shove-and-separate training camp tussle. But Landri had other ideas.

The 6-2, 290-pounder threw what looked like an uppercut punch before proceeding to rip the helmet off Harbor's head. With the situation escalating Harbor zipped out of the lion's den before chucking the ball at Landri.

"It's competition. I'm just trying to finish the play, trying to strip him. Sometimes you can't tell where you're at on the field," said Landri. "He didn't like it, turned around and tried to swing. I didn't like that, so I retaliated."

Quote from: FastFreddie on August 13, 2012, 04:12:41 PM
Asomugha and Nate Allen just collided, and Nnamdi is still lying face-down on the ground.

Looks like both Joselio Hanson and Brandon Boykin may make the team after all!

UPDATE: Probably just a concussion. Future law suit plaintiff.

QuoteThey collided and fell to the ground. Allen got up fairly quickly but Asomugha stayed down as teammates took a knee around him. Within a few minutes he began stirring and rose to his knees as the crowd cheered. He eventually made it to his feet, was assisted to the cart and taken inside.

"He looked alright. He was smiling a little bit and talking. It's not like he was out of it or concussed or anything," said Allen.

Asomugha suffered a concussion in early December last season against the Seahawks.

Quote from: General_Failure on August 18, 2012, 12:24:17 AM
Golf club to the leg and IR. I'm a genius. Where's my goddamn money?

Quote from: Eagaholic on August 18, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
I hope he is that good but I would think he'd probably be safe on the PS.

Quote from: Eagaholic on August 17, 2012, 11:59:23 PM
From what I've read, Polk has looked at sluggish at TC and Brown and Lewis have looked great so far. Haven't really had a chance to see him though.

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2012, 12:32:52 AM

Quote from: Eagaholic on August 18, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
I hope he is that good but I would think he'd probably be safe on the PS.

maybe...but you know who would be safe on the ps....farging stanley havili

Quote from: Feva on August 18, 2012, 10:28:53 PM

Quote from: Eagaholic on August 17, 2012, 11:59:23 PM
From what I've read, Polk has looked at sluggish at TC and Brown and Lewis have looked great so far. Haven't really had a chance to see him though.

Everything I've read says that while Lewis and Brown definitely appear faster, Polk is a much more physical runner and holds a lot of value because he's a good pass blocker. He's also been really good at short yardage situations.

Quote from: Rome on August 19, 2012, 08:12:24 AM
You're a cheerful sumbitch.

Quote from: Rome on August 19, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
Who scheduled these games?   They don't play for 10 days then play 2 games in 4 days?   Brilliant!

Quote from: SunMo on August 20, 2012, 03:44:11 PM
from what i read Brady, Welker, Gronk, hernandez, lloyd all might not play