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Title: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 11:26:27 AM
5 year deal
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on April 04, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
Are the last 4 voidable or something?  Seems like a long deal for a guy that'll be a backup the rest of his time here
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 11:32:53 AM
i don't think there is any guarantee that Peters comes back and is effective
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on April 04, 2012, 11:33:12 AM
O-line is set baby!!
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2012, 11:37:18 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 04, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
Are the last 4 voidable or something?  Seems like a long deal for a guy that'll be a backup the rest of his time here

length of contract is pretty meaningless in the nfl...its all about the guaranteed money and how the contract is written
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 04, 2012, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 11:32:53 AM
i don't think there is any guarantee that Peters comes back and is effective

Not only that but Peters will be 31 when the 2013 season starts. Over 30 recovering from a torn achilles might not be a good match. Bell at the very least provides a safety net at Tackle, presently they have nobody who would be considered an every day starter. I'm surprised by the 5 year deal but they have the cap space and did what was necessary to fill a huge hole.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
yeah, they had minimal negotiating leverage here.  He says what he wants and if anybody else is interested they don't' have much choice.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on April 04, 2012, 11:55:00 AM
I know less than nothing about this guy but I'm a miserable shtein by nature so I'm very angry at the signing. VERY angry.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2012, 12:07:26 PM
Solid signing.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
yeah, they had minimal negotiating leverage here.  He says what he wants and if anybody else is interested they don't' have much choice.

i disagree....the guy is coming off injury not that good to begin with and because of this as a LT which is arguably the most important position on the field other than QB was still on the market

were the eagles in a powerful position certainly not...but people werent exactly knocking this guys door down and i dont think the eagles particularly cared that much if they didnt get him...after all they let him initially walk out of novacare last week without a deal

dont pay attention to the five years...it has nothing to do with him possibly being jp's replacement or means they eagles paid a lot...if anything the eagles proposed that to spread out whatever SB money bell got
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
damn, i knew he was Karl Malone's kid but i didn't realize that The Mailman knocked up Bell's mom when she was 13.  wtf
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on April 04, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
I'm just hoping he can pick up on the complex false start scheme.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 04, 2012, 12:13:19 PM
lol
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on April 04, 2012, 12:21:12 PM
McManus is reporting 5/$35M
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2012, 12:28:24 PM
whats the guaranteed money?
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 12:31:19 PM
nm
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 04, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
Guaranteed money is  a big question and might determine if Peters is gone. He'll be making $10.5mm next year with zero cap hit if traded and an injury that could take 2 years to come back from 100%, if he ever does (and assuming Bell plays well). I think they likely structured Bell so they could get rid of him after a year or two without a lot of cap hit.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on April 04, 2012, 12:41:44 PM
Way to go out on a limb there.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2012, 12:56:27 PM
ha
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 04, 2012, 01:24:41 PM
ha
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 04, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
Jessica Alba got a tattoo.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 04, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
And it looks awful.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on April 04, 2012, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
damn, i knew he was Karl Malone's kid

Did not know that.

Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
i didn't realize that The Mailman knocked up Bell's mom when she was 13.  wtf

Did not want to know that.

Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 04, 2012, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2012, 12:28:24 PM
whats the guaranteed money?

That's the money he'll be paid regardless of how long he remains with the team. 
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2012, 03:19:56 PM
McLane says that only this season is guaranteed money.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 05, 2012, 09:27:11 AM
This reminds me of the Ryan Harris signing young guy with a lot of potential but can't stay healthy. Hopefully it works out better.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 05, 2012, 09:35:45 AM
Instead of Demetress he should just change his name to Dematress, cause everyone was sleeping on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yl3UMO-TkE
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on April 06, 2012, 07:22:58 PM
i was convinced this guy's name was spelled wrong in the thread title but i was wrong. everything about this guy is pretty retarded.

QuoteDemetress Bell joined Michael Barkann and Ike Reese on WIP in Philadelphia to discuss the process that led him to Philadelphia, whether the Eagles were his No. 1 option, what sold him on the Philly, his lack of football experience, his versatility as an offensive lineman and his relationship with Jason Peters.

On why he left Philly last week without signing:
"Well, coming into the visit or whatever, I just told every team that I visited before I make a decision I gotta go home and talk with my mom and grandma. And I won't have a decision until that time. And Philly was patient enough to let me go home, and I thank them for that."

On if Philadelphia was his No. 1 option:
"No, they wasn't my No. 1 option. Philly came into the picture after I had visited Arizona, Washington and Pittsburgh, so Philly was my - that was last on the list as far as visiting. But after I met the coaches and stuff I was happy with my visit."

On if Philadelphia still wasn't his No. 1 option after his visit:
"No, not at all. I had to get home, clear my head and get with my mom and get with my family, and just sit around and talk about all the options that I had."

On what, besides the money, sold him on the Eagles:
"When I first got here, like I said, I sat down with the coaches and I was happy. Like, I didn't even have a question for nobody. They covered every aspect of it and they told me how it was. Being straight up with me, I think that means a lot."

On not playing high school football:
"Our high school was too small. I think we might have had 300 people pre-K through 12, so we didn't have enough guys to have a football team, and I didn't play football until my last two years of college. So yeah, this is probably my fifth year, sixth year of football ever. So I'm still learning, I'm still on the cusp of learning."

On if he can play elsewhere on the line:
"I'm athletic so I'm sure I could play guard or tackle either side."

On if he's been in contact with the man he's replacing - and his former mentor in Buffalo - Jason Peters:
"Yeah, I talked to Jason before I came on the visit, during the visit, after the visit, two or three times yesterday, talked to him this morning. So me and Jason got a real close relationship."
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on April 06, 2012, 07:29:51 PM
lol at Matty's assessment...pretty spot on.  :-D
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2012, 07:46:03 PM
He's on the cusp of learning.  I didn't even know that was possible. 
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2012, 08:09:50 PM
What's his wonderlic score?!
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2012, 08:12:09 PM
im sure i heard that interview on wip yesterday
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on April 06, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on April 06, 2012, 07:22:58 PM

Demetress Bell joined Michael Barkann and Ike Reese on WIP in Philadelphia to discuss the process that led him to Philadelphia, whether the Eagles were his No. 1 option, what sold him on the Philly, his lack of football experience, his versatility as an offensive lineman and his relationship with Jason Peters.

I doubt your sincerity?
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 08, 2012, 12:57:33 AM
QuoteEagles General Manager Howie Roseman told the Philadelphia Daily News that Bell was the free agent they most coveted even before they found out they had likely lost Peters for the entire 2012 season.

"[E]very day, I go over our draft board and our free-agent board. For us, at the top of our free-agent board, is Bell," Roseman said. "This is before we know anything about the injury."

Roseman said the Eagles tried to sign Bell early in free agency, but that Bell's agent told Roseman the Eagles were a bad fit because Bell wanted to be a starter and the Eagles didn't have a place for him in the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 08, 2012, 12:59:08 AM
lol....they try way to hard to make people happy....but really no one cares
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 08, 2012, 02:26:21 AM
where's that from? who bought that bullshtein
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 08, 2012, 07:49:04 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2012, 12:59:08 AM
lol....they try way to hard to make people happy....but really no one cares

Exactly

and I'm sure there was interest as a backup because they needed depth but they probably tried to jew him with an offer and he laughed at them. Once Peters went down they had no choice because they needed somebody other than King Dunlap.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 09, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
Howie is the worst.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2012, 08:10:14 AM
the irony here is that they deserve more credit for being reactionary in such a strong way that after the inury they were able to knock out a deal with bell than they would for targeting a run of the mill guy as your number one player in FA
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 10, 2012, 08:19:17 PM


I find it incredible that with guys like Mario Williams on the market, Demetress Bell is their Prince Charming.

Actually, no I don't.  It's par for the course for these dipshteins.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 10, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
I think they've actually done a fairly good job last year and this off season as far as signings.

For all the bashing the FO gets, how they've managed the cap is the envy of many teams and fan bases, and we're just too jaded from not winning a championship to see it. It's the drafting side that's killing them. 
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 10, 2012, 11:21:04 PM
Every time I see this thread I think 'what a fargin' stupid name.'
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 10, 2012, 11:33:46 PM
Every time I see this thread I think 'I wonder how much money they stuffed in Demetress.'
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 11, 2012, 07:04:08 AM
Holy shtein.   Ha!
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 11, 2012, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 10, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
how they've managed the cap is the envy of many teams and fan bases

how is their cap management better or wrose than any other team?....what teams wish they were like the eagles...and not in terms of wins and losses...teams like buffalo and the skins wish they were them...but in terms of cap management what teams wish they were the eagles

Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: reese125 on April 11, 2012, 07:30:11 AM
ha--jaded. who cares about managing the friggin cap? i cant think of a more meaningless thing to care about when it comes to the eagles.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 11, 2012, 07:36:34 AM
Houston, for one.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 11, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
And Oakland.  Basically, 2 of the most irrelevant teams over the last 10 years. Be proud.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 11, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
I'm sure Jerruh likes getting spanked by the league for his contract to Miles Austin. Oakland is a good call but they still have work to do if they hope to wrestle the cap management brilliancy prize from Washington and their $41 million guaranteed for Albert Haynesworth. Or perhaps that was part of a bigger plan we just don't see yet, but IGY and ExtremeSkin Art have the trained eyes to see?
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 11, 2012, 12:03:39 PM
I am pretty sure it is recognized across the league the Eagles do one of the best jobs managing the cap.

As far as the drafting is concerned it is drafting defense that has been the problem. On offense I count 8 starters that they have drafted and I am including Avant.

Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 11, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
so "many" teams envy the eagles because two teams got banged by goodell for not listening to him?....that doesnt make much sense

plus i have never seen the salary cap stop the skins from getting a player they wanted...i think you may be confusing salary cap and player personnel....either way i dont think any teams envy the eagles but theres a big difference btwn being smart with money and being smart with who you sign or draft with that money...in other words any perceived advantage you think the eagles have with the salary cap certainly isnt getting them anywhere

the difference btwn the skins and eagles is the skins having attempted to buildthru trading all their draft picks and making dumb free agency signings...not the amount of money they have under the cap

same with the cowboys...they dont have an issue with the salary cap...where they have mostly failed is thru the draft because their owner is the gm

even with that since 2005 the cowboys have more regular season wins than the eagles...yes the eagles have a couple more playoff wins but i hardly think that makes dallas much less many teams envious of them

the eagles have a good franchise...they could be a lot worse they could be a lot better...but no one wishes they were them
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
they are the mother farging gold standard

everyone wishes they were them
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on April 19, 2012, 06:49:07 AM
For making money, yeah. For winning, not so much.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phillycrew on February 07, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
Demetress Bell has been cut.  I sure hope Peters is recovered for next year.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2013, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: phillycrew on February 07, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
Demetress Bell has been cut.  I sure hope Peters is recovered for next year.

one has nothing to do with the other
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on February 07, 2013, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: phillycrew on February 07, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
Demetress Bell has been cut.  I sure hope Peters is recovered for next year.

Jason Peters on a semi-healed Achilles TODAY in February >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bell on his absolute best day.
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 07, 2013, 10:18:48 PM
Saw a comment somewhere on the interweb about this that was something like "Good riddance.  Philly only has enough room for 1 Bell that doesn't work right."   

I chuckled. 
Title: Re: Demetress Bell, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: methdeez on February 07, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Can't really blame the FO for this guy as he was basically the biggest free agent tackle last year, but goddamn was he terrible.