Wait, what?
Dude that's old news...get with the times
love this signing, obviously:
Quote from: SD on August 01, 2011, 08:48:43 PM
Eagles need a backup to Shady. How bout a guy like Ronnie Brown? I know they like smaller quick backs but he's pretty fast for being 230. Doesn't seem like he's getting a ton of interest around the league.
Quality pro talent at a backup position. Nice.
I like it so long as I'm not seeing Ronnie Brown taking direct snaps this year.
nah, that's what DeSean is for...
Vince Young, Vick and R. Brown. 3 headed wildcat of death.
i think since westbrook took over the show himself, weve talked about, every offseason, the eagles getting a slightly washed up but still kind of usable running back to spell the starter. and every year they get dorsey levens or darnell autry or lorenzo booker or some shteinhole useless player.
but now they didnt. they got the guy on the market who can probably still give you 10 solid carries per game and maybe even carry the load for 1-2 games if shady goes down.
what. the. farg. done. changed.
Very nice pickup. Good change of pace for Shady, very good in short yards, pass blocking is a strength of his too so he'll actually be able to set foot on the field... and as much as we'd like to think otherwise, we know Andy ain't done with the wildcat. Might as well get the OG.
Brown can still carry the rock 20 times per game now that he's completely healthy. This is a showcase year for him. If he does well and stays healthy, he's on to bigger and better. If something happens to Shady. . . well, I'll just leave it at that.
Quote from: MDS on August 03, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
i think since westbrook took over the show himself, weve talked about, every offseason, the eagles getting a slightly washed up but still kind of usable running back to spell the starter. and every year they get dorsey levens or darnell autry or lorenzo booker or some shteinhole useless player.
LOL @ you if you thought Levens was a useless player. I thought he was a very nice addition to the backfield.
That said, I farging love this signing. In fact, if you exclude the previous FA pick ups this year, I love the Brown signing more than any other FA the Eagles have picked up probably since Kearse.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 03, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
i think since westbrook took over the show himself, weve talked about, every offseason, the eagles getting a slightly washed up but still kind of usable running back to spell the starter. and every year they get dorsey levens or darnell autry or lorenzo booker or some shteinhole useless player.
LOL @ you if you thought Levens was a useless player. I thought he was a very nice addition to the backfield.
That said, I farging love this signing. In fact, if you exclude the previous FA pick ups this year, I love the Brown signing more than any other FA the Eagles have picked up probably since Kearse.
Word. Levens was the goods as a backup.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
That said, I farging love this signing. In fact, if you exclude the previous FA pick ups this year, I love the Brown signing more than any other FA the Eagles have picked up probably since Kearse.
assante samuel say 'probably' is right
took #36 omghowcouldtheydothattobwest
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
That said, I farging love this signing. In fact, if you exclude the previous FA pick ups this year, I love the Brown signing more than any other FA the Eagles have picked up probably since Kearse.
assante samuel say 'probably' is right
No, I intentionally skipped over the Samuel signing because I didn't love it. Liked it, didn't love it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
That said, I farging love this signing. In fact, if you exclude the previous FA pick ups this year, I love the Brown signing more than any other FA the Eagles have picked up probably since Kearse.
assante samuel say 'probably' is right
No, I intentionally skipped over the Samuel signing because I didn't love it. Liked it, didn't love it.
if you like an aging back up RB better than getting one of the best cornerbacks in the nfl in his prime then your intentions were at best misguided and at worst completely delusional
and im not even the biggest assante fan
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
That said, I farging love this signing. In fact, if you exclude the previous FA pick ups this year, I love the Brown signing more than any other FA the Eagles have picked up probably since Kearse.
assante samuel say 'probably' is right
No, I intentionally skipped over the Samuel signing because I didn't love it. Liked it, didn't love it.
if you like an aging back up RB better than getting one of the best cornerbacks in the nfl in his prime then your intentions were at best misguided and at worst completely delusional
and im not even the biggest assante fan
Overall, I agree. But I'm factoring in situational need. At the time, the Eagles really didn't "need" to get Samuel since they had Brown and Lito. But right now, the Eagles do (or did) legitimately need another RB and they happened to get one of the best RB's for the last 5 or 6 years to come in and fill a back up roll. That's why I'm more excited about it than signing Asante.
He's wearing 36... shouldn't that jersey be "Ring of Honored"?
Solid signing - I like it.
I like it even more because the jerkoff Dallas fans down here try to minimize it by saying he sucks.
Quote from: Hawk on August 03, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
He's wearing 36... shouldn't that jersey be "Ring of Honored"?
Really? Interesting.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 03, 2011, 05:15:18 PM
Quote from: Hawk on August 03, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
He's wearing 36... shouldn't that jersey be "Ring of Honored"?
Really? Interesting.
According to Mikey Miss, he was spotted on the sideline rocking the 3-6. He said it was a violation.
Not interesting. Westbrook's jersey does belong in the ring of honor or whatever the farg the Eagles have to honor great players. But you still don't take his number out of the system unless the player does something truly remarkable, like Reggie White setting the sacks record while playing for the Eagles. Or if he dies while travelling at mach 1 in a vette like JB. Those types of accomplishments gets your number pulled.
Being really, really good doesn't get your number retired. Because if that's all it took then 20 would have been retired after Dirty wore it, 21 would have been off the shelf after EA and Mamula would have had to wear #58 while he was almost sacking quarterbacks.
36 would be retired if it weren't injury prone.
Speaking of "36" is he still in SF?
Quote from: Don Ho on August 03, 2011, 05:50:45 PM
Speaking of "36" is he still in SF?
I believe he's a free agent.
The 36 thing is temporary.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Should-R-Brown-wear-Westbrooks-No-36.html
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 05:23:57 PM
Not interesting. Westbrook's jersey does belong in the ring of honor or whatever the farg the Eagles have to honor great players. But you still don't take his number out of the system unless the player does something truly remarkable, like Reggie White setting the sacks record while playing for the Eagles. Or if he dies while travelling at mach 1 in a vette like JB. Those types of accomplishments gets your number pulled.
Being really, really good doesn't get your number retired. Because if that's all it took then 20 would have been retired after Dirty wore it, 21 would have been off the shelf after EA and Mamula would have had to wear #58 while he was almost sacking quarterbacks.
Concur. Save retiring jerseys for Hall of Famers and those who die while very good.
Another good move. I feel like I'm in bizarro world.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 03, 2011, 05:23:57 PM
Not interesting. Westbrook's jersey does belong in the ring of honor or whatever the farg the Eagles have to honor great players. But you still don't take his number out of the system unless the player does something truly remarkable, like Reggie White setting the sacks record while playing for the Eagles. Or if he dies while travelling at mach 1 in a vette like JB. Those types of accomplishments gets your number pulled.
Being really, really good doesn't get your number retired. Because if that's all it took then 20 would have been retired after Dirty wore it, 21 would have been off the shelf after EA and Mamula would have had to wear #58 while he was almost sacking quarterbacks.
Don't worry. Westbrook's noodle noggin long forgot what number he wore.
Oh snap.
QuoteI look forward to rolling over the giants this season and the packers if they even make it to the playoffs
QuoteAnd Dallas! Maybe I can go T.O. On em and dance on the star
Backups say the darndest things.
That's just the CTE talking.
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/16/fullj.b09508f9e94bcb875e8eef3819ab3b91/ap-201110021338490833398.jpg)
I still can't believe how farging stupid this was. "I WAS TRYING TO THROW IT INCOMPLETE SO WE DIDN'T LOSE YARDAGE." Because the difference between Henery missing a 18-yder and a 19-yder was so huge
Stupid seams like it's not a strong enough word. You have one of the best young up and coming rb's in the league, and you give the ball to Ronnie friggen' Brown with a bad call for the ages in the red zone.
the call was fine....last week when owen schimtt was running the ball down by the goaline everyone bitched and asked where was ronnie brown....now he gets it and people are still complaining....theres one person to blame for that play and its ronnie brown for inexplicably trying to throw it as he was falling to the ground
Who's complaining that Ronnie Brown got the ball there?
Quote from: shorebird on October 03, 2011, 05:42:27 PM
You have one of the best young up and coming rb's in the league, and you give the ball to Ronnie friggen' Brown
Wow.
Yeah not sure the angst over giving it to him there, shore.
Maybe Ronnie thought it was a goaline flee flicker
Here's what I don't get about their goal line calls, one is they call plays that take time to develop. Why they do this I have no farging idea. Two they run it up the gut. The interior of the line gets no push yet they keep pounding it up the middle. Why not try a pitch out or do something with Vick on a roll out. I mean, the guy is the most athletic QB in league history.
id put him in full time but theres no reason that jj shouldnt be the center in short yardage situations and in fact if peters isnt hurt i move herremans back to guard
Quote from: SD on October 04, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Here's what I don't get about their goal line calls, one is they call plays that take time to develop. Why they do this I have no farging idea. Two they run it up the gut. The interior of the line gets no push yet they keep pounding it up the middle. Why not try a pitch out or do something with Vick on a roll out. I mean, the guy is the most athletic QB in league history.
I agree, and as far as Brown goes, I'd say Shady is a lot more apt to make someone miss on a pitch out is why I'd rather see him in there
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2011, 07:18:33 AM
the call was fine....last week when owen schimtt was running the ball down by the goaline everyone bitched and asked where was ronnie brown....now he gets it and people are still complaining....theres one person to blame for that play and its ronnie brown for inexplicably trying to throw it as he was falling to the ground
I don't think the call was fine at all. Yes, last week I bitched about Schmitt getting the ball, but never said anything about Brown getting it. All of those calls have sucked. This team hasn't run up the middle all year and then you do it at the goal line?? How assbackwards is that crap?
Shady on a pitch would be perfect. Guy has a ton of speed and excels at making people miss. Rolling Vick out or having him make a play is another option. I just don't get trying to force the ball in the middle of the D when the interior of the O-line is awful. And I agree with igy that JJ should go back to being the starter. Maybe he's not as good at sweeps and pulling plays but at least he doesn't get destroyed every other play.
I never really disliked Jackson, I thought he was adequate when in there, never make the pro bowl but he's a big body.
just in case you guys forgot jj was getting blown up as well. I cant tell you how many times he would be riding mcnabbs ass on a 5 step drop.
he just didnt have the consistent strength or skill to stay with the quicker d lineman. I was calling for JJ to be removed for a while, so when he finally was let go I was cool with it...but seeing the way kelce plays...jesus christ... Ill take JJ back in a heartbeat if thats all they got.
he got abused on passing plays...we are talking about running plays where he was solid versus kelce who is a complete joke
One of the Eagles biggest weakspots running the ball were they could never go up through either A gap side--whether it was 1st or 4th down. We always saw the biggest gains coming off guard or tackle. Westbrook rarely ran it up the middle--not by choice--he just couldnt.
Inconsistency plagues both Jackson and certainly now Kelce.
jj was inconsistent....kelce cant play....huge difference
size alone would be a vast improvement in the run game...kelce gets blasted backwards on virtually every play...jj has bad feet but he will move people forward when he gets on them in small space
its not even an argument as to who would be better in the run game....eagles have kelce in there because once again they are trying to show the world that they got a player in the 150th round of the draft who is starting
The retarded logic here is that JJ is a better center, but Mudd likes Kelce because he's more mobile. Taking into account that the Center maybe pulls 5-10 times a game it begs the question is it worth having a first year late round pick center as the starter because one facet of his game is better than a guy who is at the very least steady.
Well, when you spend a gazillion dollars in free agency and have your weasel accountant tell everyone you're going "all in," the important thing to do is give the young guys a chance to develop by playing over the veterans who are better right now.
Quote from: SD on October 05, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
The retarded logic here is that JJ is a better center, but Mudd likes Kelce because he's more mobile. Taking into account that the Center maybe pulls 5-10 times a game it begs the question is it worth having a first year late round pick center as the starter because one facet of his game is better than a guy who is at the very least steady.
i would also put him in full time....but for sake of argument lets just say they are right about all that....how about in certain situations at least putting jj in...for example at the goal line to help with red zone production
I was having this exact conversation with a friend of mine the other day. The problem with rotating centers in this type of situation is that
1. It tells the defense what you're doing.
2. Rotating centers is an awful idea. How many times have you seen a center get hurt so his replacement comes in and the snap is botched? I remember it happening to the Eagles back in 2002 (I think) on opening day vs the Rams.
I'd rather see Jackson in there as well but that just ain't happening unless Kelce gets injured. You really think Reid is going to admit that his prized offensive line coach made a mistake?
You guys just don't get it. They are saving JJ for the SB. Duh.
well i wouldnt rotate id have started jj from game one
but just because you put jackson in doesnt mean you have to run...however if you do at least you have someone that can move people...and really who cares if they know you are running with a yard to go....they think you are anyway....if you cant push forward for a few inches even if the d knows its coming then you dont deserve to participate in the nfl...which is where the eagles are now....at least with jj in the game it gives you a chance to succeed in those situations
outta here
traded to Detroit for Jerome Harrison (again) and a 2013 7th-rd pick
awesome
Soooo.....it wasnt a pass option on the goal line?
This season is just funny at this point.
the timing isnt perfect as i would have preferred it to have happened right after the sf game but i love the move in that it tells the rest of the roster to stop being idiots and that there are consequences for it
Bad trade. Brown may have goofed but he's still a better back than Harrison.
Agree with SD. Dumb play in the SF game, but this move is purely a threat.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2011, 04:11:15 PM
the timing isnt perfect as i would have preferred it to have happened right after the sf game but i love the move in that it tells the rest of the roster to stop being idiots and that there are consequences for it
shtein-if thats the case they may be playing 5 on 11 after the dallas game against the bears
absolutely pathetic that reid lets rb take the blame for that catastrophe. yeah, it was dumb to try and throw it, but what an awful play call
QuoteLesBowen
The 2013 pick is a seventh-rounder. Those are tough for #Eagles to part with, since they traditionally start right away.
oooooo BURN
There's absolutely nothing to be gained from this...
Quote from: SD on October 18, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
Bad trade. Brown may have goofed but he's still a better back than Harrison.
True as that may be, the fact is that Brown hasn't sniffed the field since SF and Reid even gave Deion Lewis red zone carries against DC. Right or wrong, I think Reid decided Brown wasn't going back on the field any time soon. So if you aren't going to use him, trade him. You know Harrison will get a little work.
Did they free up a tiny bit of cap room? That's probably all they wanted.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 18, 2011, 04:41:47 PM
Did they free up a tiny bit of cap room? That's probably all they wanted.
It's so they can sign TO.
It sure as hell isn't so they can resign Jackson.
Brown must be doing cartwheels right about now.
Quote from: Rome on October 18, 2011, 04:46:09 PM
Brown must be doing cartwheels right about now.
There is no more powerful statement about the state of the Eagles that this. A player is going from Philly to Detroit and is EXCITED about it.
Can't really see how Brown would be excited about being a 3rd string rb behind Best and Morris but whatever.
2-4 to 6-0
Bummerz!
Or 5-1. Whatever
When was the last time a nfl player cared about winning?
In order:
Get paid
Starter
Twitter account
Winning games
Quote from: reese125 on October 18, 2011, 04:51:15 PM
Can't really see how Brown would be excited about being a 3rd string rb behind Best and Morris but whatever.
Best has a concussion
I prefer Harrison. Brown was cooked and I've read a few of the beat guys say Browns speed was all but gone.
Doesn't make a lick of difference unless Shady gets hurt, because he's on the field 90%+ of the time. And Dion Lewis had supplanted Brown anyway. Pretty sure Harrison would still be a backup if Shady went out.
BUT THE WILDCATTT????
Vick IS the wildcat.
P.S.
QuoteEagles save $103,169 in cap room with trade; no difference in actual money
Per Schefter;
Trade voided due to Harrison health issues.
Brown is still an Iggle
He's going to have Asante level motivation from here on out
BEST TRADE EVER!
Pointing. Laughing. Facepalming.
I'm sure he'll see lots of playing time.
Apparently they plan to keep him but Brown is "supremely disappointed" the trade went through.
So he feels like millions of Eagle fans did when he shtein himself in the 49ers game.
QuoteThe Eagles announced Tuesday they dealt Brown to Detroit for Harrison and an undisclosed pick in the 2013 draft. Detroit wouldn't confirm the move because the franchise doesn't until deals are done.
Outclassed by the Lions organization. This is a new low.
The Eagles found a brain tumor during Harrison's exam, so the (voided) trade may have saved his life...
Holy shtein
For real? Hopefully it was discovered early enough to eat it. That's just nuts though.
Edit - hahah stupid autocorrect. I'm leaving that as is.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 20, 2011, 01:14:43 PM
For real? Hopefully it was discovered eat enough to treat it. That's just nuts though.
This is kind of hard to understand, but I'm assuming you just said you wanted to eat Jerome Harrison's brain tumor?
:-D
He's got a point. You let them get too big and they lose all the flavor.
QuoteBrown tossing the ball to a pile of 49ers may have been the best thing to ever happen to Jerome Harrison
clearly manufactured by harrison to avoid playing for the eagles
wow
victorino already has dibs on the nickname
Those must be some comprehensive physicals to find a brain tumor. I always assumed they just looked at your joints. Were they doing head x-rays? Or head MRI's?
That's nothing compared to the prostate exam personally administered by Banner.
I wouldn't have canceled the trade. Rub some dirt in it.
How is Harrison with a brain tumor worse than Ronnie Brown anyway?
Quote from: methdeez on October 20, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
Those must be some comprehensive physicals to find a brain tumor. I always assumed they just looked at your joints. Were they doing head x-rays? Or head MRI's?
CT scan for concussion baseline?
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 20, 2011, 05:12:57 PM
That's nothing compared to the prostate exam personally administered by Banner.
Every one of us has been administered that exam. Non stop. For 15 years.
You using the whole fist there, doc?
a simple blood test can often tell whether you have cancer or not
Moooooon River!
Quote from: rjs246 on October 20, 2011, 06:48:13 PM
You using the whole fist there, doc?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
a simple blood test can often tell whether you have cancer or not
wrong
something as simple as having your blood checked and seeing an inordinate amount of white blood cells can led to a cancer diagnosis...and thats just one example
Having an inordinate amount of wbcs most often indicates infection, especially acute bacterial.
There's no one "cancer," there are dozens and dozens of types, and in general a simple blood test won't provide a definitive diagnosis. Further labs, physical exam, imaging, biposy and pathology, patient history and family history, demographics (e.g. prostate cancer is more prevalent in males than females) all come into play and usually a number of the above are used when making a diagnosis.
the point is during a physical you have your blood taken...a crazy result from this blood test could lead to a cancer diagnosis...no idea if a brain tumor would cause an irregular blood test result tho
you are an idiot
Hahaha a blood test can tell you if you have cancer. Amazing.
I can't believe I'm about to defend IGY here, but I think what he's trying to say is an abnormality on a blood test could lead them to test for different things, including cancer. Not that you can actually look at a blood test and say "hey look, cancer"
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
a simple blood test can often tell whether you have cancer or not
Looks pretty straight forward to me.
Yes, igy is trying to say that abnormal blood results could lead to further testing that could confirm cancer. That is correct. Also, the sun is hot.
i didnt want to say anything before, but i think me may be a neanderthal
I believe the correct name is "mongoloid."
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 20, 2011, 10:26:04 PM
Yes, igy is trying to say that abnormal blood results could lead to further testing that could confirm cancer. That is correct. Also, the sun is hot.
thank you kicko...haters always be chomping at the bit
if any of you morons had read the thread someone mentioned how in depth a simple nfl physical must be to find a brain tumor...i was merely pointing out that a simple blood test could lead to a cancer diagnosis...if you couldnt figure that out you are trying to be the smartest guy in the room...not shocking that hipster elite and russ were all over it
So on one side of the ledger we have IGY and Munson. On the other Dio and I.
I'm comfortable where I am.
[hater]Champing at the bit[/hater]
If a simple blood test could diagnose cancer, and the best way to treat cancer is to get it early, it stands to reason that cancer would not be the number one killer of Americans today.
Christ, docs are so desperate to find ways to early diagnose cancer they're actually embracing the idea that dogs can smell it. There are no "simple" tests for cancer. WBC can increase with cancer, especially lymphoma/leukemia (obviously). But it's hardly diagnostic, and would not be the first conclusion a doctor would draw (again, unless it was L/L, in which case the numbers would be sky high). Extremely expensive tests (CAT scans, FDG-PET) are required for most cancers to be definitively diagnosed. One of the most avid areas of research right now is early detection biomarkers, and it is by no means "simple".
And Eagaholic, I hope you're joking, because prostate cancer is not more prevalent in men; women don't have a prostate.
all im saying is without that blood test they would have never found his brain tumor
Who even said that Harrison has cancer? I haven't seen any reports that say whether the tumor was benign or malignant.
Its the bye week. Just go with it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 20, 2011, 10:56:45 PM
I believe the correct name is "mongoloid."
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 21, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
all im saying is without that blood test they would have never found his brain tumor
I don't think they used a blood test to detect this. I read that he told the doctor he'd been having headaches and they ordered a scan which detected the tumor.
No, they asked him if he had any brain tumors and he answered with "Banana." Then they did some blood work until he passed out, drew on his face and took pictures, then they got drunk and cut open his skull to find the tumor.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 21, 2011, 08:09:56 AM
So on one side of the ledger we have IGY and Munson. On the other Dio and I.
I'm comfortable where I am.
hey now don't be putting me on his side. I was just trying to clarify what he was attempting to say.
Too late. Jew.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 21, 2011, 12:23:47 PM
No, they asked him if he had any brain tumors and he answered with "Banana." Then they did some blood work until he passed out, drew on his face and took pictures, then they got drunk and cut open his skull to find the tumor.
So, the usual way.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 21, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
all im saying is without that blood test they would have never found his brain tumor
Can you teach Jarrad Page to backpedal this fast? Please.
Quote from: MMH on October 21, 2011, 08:35:42 AM
And Eagaholic, I hope you're joking, because prostate cancer is not more prevalent in men; women don't have a prostate.
Um, yeah. it was a joke.
Matty has given at least nine women prostrate cancer.
Does he prorate cancer to the prostate by prostrated date rape?
No.
Is red hair a sign of Ginger cancer?
Yes
shtein, I hate bye weeks.
You're really more looking forward to them playing again?