Just signed according to ESPN radio.
5 year deal
brutal
Yeah, I have a feeling this won't end well.
I'm not saying it's a great deal or anything, but you have to think he's going to be better than what they had/have...and he loves Washburn's system. I dunno, I don't think it's a zesty thing.
AW. FUL.
AGGRESSIVE!
3 sacks, tops...
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:08:29 AM
I'm not saying it's a great deal or anything, but you have to think he's going to be better than what they had/have...and he loves Washburn's system. I dunno, I don't think it's a zesty thing.
what system?
hes gonna come off the edge and try to sack the quarterback...you either think hes going to do a good job at that or you dont....i dont
this washburn uber genius shtein and the idea that he can simply put his hand on the shoulder pad of any lineman and they will be come awesome is so overblown
whats hilarious is the eagles ignore their in house rule of not caking off 30+ year olds for once and its for jason farging babin
Washburn got who he was familiar with. He'll never see the last two years out of the deal, and if Washburn had the dude in double digit sacks last year, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on it, for now. Hopefully this is just a sign that they are getting started.
BIG SPLASH
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:08:29 AM
I'm not saying it's a great deal or anything, but you have to think he's going to be better than what they had/have...and he loves Washburn's system. I dunno, I don't think it's a zesty thing.
what system?
hes gonna come off the edge and try to sack the quarterback...you either think hes going to do a good job at that or you dont....i dont
this washburn uber genius shtein and the idea that he can simply put his hand on the shoulder pad of any lineman and they will be come awesome is so overblown
whats hilarious is the eagles ignore their in house rule of not caking off 30+ year olds for once and its for jason farging babin
What system? Washburn has a history of taking guys no one has heard of and getting them to produce at a high level. Babin didn't get some lucky coverage sacks all in one game, and if you paid attention, he was markedly better than he had been ever before in his career. What do you attribute that to? It extends past Babin: Haynesworth, Kearse also being examples.
I am not saying Babin is a lock to get double digit sacks, he could completely flame out, what I am saying is that he much more likely to do it than Edwards or whoever else they could have added at DE based on his production under Washburn.
So same D as last season except:
No Bradley (maybe he re-signs but as of right now the LBs are weakened...which I didn't think was possible considering how bad they were last season)
They bring back their 5th DE in the rotation from 2 seasons ago
They're trusting a rookie 2nd round pick who should have gone in the 4th round as their new SS
Have their starting Safety coming off an injury
The only upgrade I'm seeing is at LCB and that's not even a done deal yet.
Babin is getting $17 million guaranteed
I didn't want Edwards either but I would have taken him over Babin. He's younger and more talented.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:08:29 AM
I'm not saying it's a great deal or anything, but you have to think he's going to be better than what they had/have...and he loves Washburn's system. I dunno, I don't think it's a zesty thing.
what system?
hes gonna come off the edge and try to sack the quarterback...you either think hes going to do a good job at that or you dont....i dont
this washburn uber genius shtein and the idea that he can simply put his hand on the shoulder pad of any lineman and they will be come awesome is so overblown
whats hilarious is the eagles ignore their in house rule of not caking off 30+ year olds for once and its for jason farging babin
What system? Washburn has a history of taking guys no one has heard of and getting them to produce at a high level. Babin didn't get some lucky coverage sacks all in one game, and if you paid attention, he was markedly better than he had been ever before in his career. What do you attribute that to? It extends past Babin: Haynesworth, Kearse also being examples.
I am not saying Babin is a lock to get double digit sacks, he could completely flame out, what I am saying is that he much more likely to do it than Edwards or whoever else they could have added at DE based on his production under Washburn.
you clearly believe in d line coaches more than i do...i hope im wrong and washburn is some genius...but my money is on 6-8 sacks....
also if washburn is so awesome then couldnt he do the same thing with the lineman already on the roster....why the need to cake off a 31 year old defensive end that has one year of production in his life....id much rather have him working with someone like cliff avril
I personally liked Babin when he was in Philly before and thought he should have gotten more playing time than what he did...but for some reason McDumbit loved Juqua Parker more.
I'm ok with the deal as long as it is front-loaded and they still have the ability to resign Vick/Jackson and get a vet QB (VY i've heard rumors of) and keep building that defense. A RT would be nice to grab as well.
reports are it's only $7M guarenteed money, which isn't that bad if they get two decent years from him
i could care less about the money...its the age and the talent that bothers me
Quote from: SunMo on July 28, 2011, 09:24:22 AM
reports are it's only $7M guarenteed money, which isn't that bad if they get two decent years from him
Thought I heard $17 million, which is bad
jwyattsports Jim Wyatt
by caplannfl
Babin's deal with the Eagles is for 5 years, $28 million, and includes roughly $5-6 million in guarantees
that basically says that there was no market for the guy
I have no problem with the money. It ain't mine. Washburn gets a lot of no-name guys, guys who go to make truck loads of money elsewhere. Doesn't mean he can do with anyone IGs. He's got guys he feels fit better, like any other coach - perhaps Babin is one of them. Look at this list: Kyle Vanden Bosch, Jevon Kearse, John Thornton, Robaire Smith, Antwan Odom, Kevin Carter, Albert Haynesworth and Tony Brown. How many of them did squat since they went elsewhere?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:32:55 AM
that basically says that there was no market for the guy
Exactly
And his SB was for $7 million.
I'd be fine with this move if they had another DE as the starter and Babin was being thrown into a rotation, but he's going to be anointed the starter from day 1.
QuoteESPN and 97.5's Sal Paolantonio gives us the financial specs of the Jason Babin deal to the Eagles: 5 years, $30 million with $7 million guaranteed.
Not exactly the $17M you bitched about...yet you're still bitching.
Are you not entertained?!?
one more cup of coffee and possibly.
Cant say i love it or hate it. If he gets double digit sacks for a year or two its worth it.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:37:24 AM
Not exactly the $17M you bitched about...yet you're still bitching.
I was promised an exciting offseason, does this move excite you? Even if his sb was $1 I'd bitch because I don't think a 31 year old journeyman DE who the Eagles cut last season is an upgrade.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 09:33:23 AM
I have no problem with the money. It ain't mine. Washburn gets a lot of no-name guys, guys who go to make truck loads of money elsewhere. Doesn't mean he can do with anyone IGs. He's got guys he feels fit better, like any other coach - perhaps Babin is one of them. Look at this list: Kyle Vanden Bosch, Jevon Kearse, John Thornton, Robaire Smith, Antwan Odom, Kevin Carter, Albert Haynesworth and Tony Brown. How many of them did squat since they went elsewhere?
again if thats the case why did they need to sign babin...why not have washburn make all the current ends great players
i mean if babin gets 2 sacks without washburn and 12 with him wouldnt darryl tapp turn his five sacks into 15?
If it was relatively cheap, I can live with it. But not exciting, at all.
Washburn can turn water into wine
who the hell said it was exciting? It's a solid move to shore up an area that needed it. It's a fit with Washburn.
Bitch that it's not exciting, don't sit here and say it's a terrible signing or that he sucks.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 28, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
Cant say i love it or hate it. If he gets double digit sacks for a year or two its worth it.
You're shootin' a bit high there, Tex.
O/U for total sacks over the next two years is probably 13.5.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
who the hell said it was exciting? It's a solid move to shore up an area that needed it. It's a fit with Washburn.
Bitch that it's not exciting, don't sit here and say it's a terrible signing or that he sucks.
I'm not sure if that was directed my way, but that's exactly what I said.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
who the hell said it was exciting? It's a solid move to shore up an area that needed it. It's a fit with Washburn.
Bitch that it's not exciting, don't sit here and say it's a terrible signing or that he sucks.
But it IS a terrible signing and he does suck. He was the Eagles 5th DE 2 seasons ago (the D line sucked then too), has only one good season, and is basically a journeyman. Where do you see him as an upgrade? He's on a Juqua Parker level.
The dline sucked yes...but McDermott didn't make anyone better.
it's not a terrible signing, its a solid signing.
And I'm NOT a FO schill and don't like pretty much anything they do. So it's not all homertastic Sami or something here.
It's not terrible and he doesn't suck. He's just not great. It's a mediocre signing.
Quote from: Zanshin on July 28, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
It's not terrible and he doesn't suck. He's just not great. It's a mediocre signing.
Exactly. He's Juqua Parker. Why add another Juqua Parker when the team is full of them?
i wont go as far to say its a terrible signing as long as they use him in a rotation and dont act like hes a starting full time DE...i mean hes gonna get some sacks like juqua would
but if what everyone says about washburn is true then its a worthless and uneccesary signing because they have players and there are players out on the market more talented and better than babin
i would describe it as a completely underwhelming signing
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:54:37 AM
i wont go as far to say its a terrible signing as long as they use him in a rotation and dont act like hes a starting full time DE...i mean hes gonna get some sacks like juqua would
I'd be thrilled if he was only playing in a rotation but we all know the Eagles...this is their guy, he's their answer at DE.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:42:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 09:33:23 AM
I have no problem with the money. It ain't mine. Washburn gets a lot of no-name guys, guys who go to make truck loads of money elsewhere. Doesn't mean he can do with anyone IGs. He's got guys he feels fit better, like any other coach - perhaps Babin is one of them. Look at this list: Kyle Vanden Bosch, Jevon Kearse, John Thornton, Robaire Smith, Antwan Odom, Kevin Carter, Albert Haynesworth and Tony Brown. How many of them did squat since they went elsewhere?
again if thats the case why did they need to sign babin...why not have washburn make all the current ends great players
i mean if babin gets 2 sacks without washburn and 12 with him wouldnt darryl tapp turn his five sacks into 15?
Don't remember ever hearing anyone say he can turn
anyone into a pro-bowler, just that he has generally gotten more out of players that were considered pedestrian in the past. Tapp might just suck, and that's all he'll ever do. Washburn knew what he had with Babin, so they went out and got him. I can't hate on that. Look at Vanden-Bosch. The dude was oft-injured and has like 4 or five sacks in a few years with Arizona. Washburn got more out of him. I am sure there are tons of guys Tennesse cut, or only marginally improved, but there is a long, long list of no-names who produced at a much higher level under Washburn then ever before or since in there careers. That counts for something.
The Eagles always rotate their ends, and I'm pretty sure Washburn was planning to do the same thing. So, if you want to piss and moan that they aren't going to add another free agent DE... probably valid. If you want to piss and moan that Babin is going to be a 3-down end and not simply part of the rotation, you don't even make any sense.
I don't see the problem, Babin arguably was the 3rd best DE available on the market and even though I like Edwards I wasn't prepared to give that type of money to a guy who played on the best defensive line in the league. Playing along side the best defensive end in the game would make a lot of DE's look good.
Calling Jared Allen the best DE in the game is a good way to be labeled a racist 'round these parts.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 10:03:44 AM
The Eagles always rotate their ends, and I'm pretty sure Washburn was planning to do the same thing. So, if you want to piss and moan that they aren't going to add another free agent DE... probably valid. If you want to piss and moan that Babin is going to be a 3-down end and not simply part of the rotation, you don't even make any sense.
ALL teams rotate their ends. The Eagles more so because aside from Cole they don't have a legit starter at DE. Babin is your 'legit' starter.
Well, compared to Victor Abiamiri, Brandon Graham, and Juqua Parker...
Kapadia just dropped a nugget, basically Babin played 60% of the snaps in Washburn's system last year, and Washburn routinely rotated at least four ends in his system in Tennesse, so calling anyone other the Cole the starter seems useless.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 10:11:24 AM
Well, compared to Victor Abiamiri, Brandon Graham, and Juqua Parker...
Hard to believe he's still on the team
Babin is going to be penciled in as the starter but he's still going to be part of a rotation. Washburn rotated 8 guys last year on the defensive line with Babin playing less than 60% of the snaps.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 10:11:24 AM
Well, compared to Victor Abiamiri, Brandon Graham, and Juqua Parker...
all those guys plus tapp and sapp are double digit sack men under washburn....in fact i fully expect graham to start the opener this year after washburn does some mr miagi hand heat to his knee
Quote from: Illadelph83 on July 28, 2011, 10:15:55 AM
Babin is going to be penciled in as the starter but he's still going to be part of a rotation. Washburn rotated 8 guys last year on the defensive line with Babin playing less than 60% of the snaps.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 10:11:51 AM
Kapadia just dropped a nugget, basically Babin played 60% of the snaps in Washburn's system last year, and Washburn routinely rotated at least four ends in his system in Tennesse, so calling anyone other the Cole the starter seems useless.
reading ftw
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 10:11:24 AM
Well, compared to Victor Abiamiri, Brandon Graham, and Juqua Parker...
all those guys plus tapp and sapp are double digit sack men under washburn....in fact i fully expect graham to start the opener this year after washburn does some mr miagi hand heat to his knee
1. I literally chuckled, and it makes me feel dirty.
2. Even though he was mentioned multiple times in this thread already, I forgot about Tapp completely. I think I just did again.
3. I think Ricky Sapp makes more of an impact on the defense this year than does Brandon Graham.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: Illadelph83 on July 28, 2011, 10:15:55 AM
Babin is going to be penciled in as the starter but he's still going to be part of a rotation. Washburn rotated 8 guys last year on the defensive line with Babin playing less than 60% of the snaps.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 10:11:51 AM
Kapadia just dropped a nugget, basically Babin played 60% of the snaps in Washburn's system last year, and Washburn routinely rotated at least four ends in his system in Tennesse, so calling anyone other the Cole the starter seems useless.
reading ftw
My bad Les Bowen
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 10:11:24 AM
Well, compared to Victor Abiamiri, Brandon Graham, and Juqua Parker...
all those guys plus tapp and sapp are double digit sack men under washburn....in fact i fully expect graham to start the opener this year after washburn does some mr miagi hand heat to his knee
lol
good chance graham doesnt play this year....his injury is career threatening
sapp will be good one day if he can ever stay healthy
farging beautiful.
Thanks for signing such a wonderful talent, Mr Roseman. You're a goddamn wonderful GM.
diddy saying babin is no different than all the other guys they have ran thru town over the years...clemons...tapp...babin two years ago...ect...
doesnt like his one dimensionality...cant set the edge...makes all his tackles in pursuit
said last year was a bit of a mirage in that once the league caught onto him he fell off...beat up on some bad tackles early in the year
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 10:49:26 AM
diddy saying babin is no different than all the other guys they have ran thru town over the years...clemons...tapp...babin two years ago...ect...
doesnt like his one dimensionality...cant set the edge...makes all his tackles in pursuit
said last year was a bit of a mirage in that once the league caught onto him he fell off...beat up on some bad tackles early in the year
pg?
PG what? Did they throw him a shtein ton of money?? No...I still dont' see wtf the problem is.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 10:49:26 AM
said last year was a bit of a mirage in that once the league caught onto him he fell off...beat up on some bad tackles early in the year
I'm not excited about this whatsoever, but for what it's worth his stats were pretty consistent throughout the year.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 11:11:31 AM
PG what? Did they throw him a shtein ton of money?? No...I still dont' see wtf the problem is.
They didn't upgrade. The money is inconsequential at this point. That's the problem. Why even sign the guy? If Ray Diddy is comparing him to Clemons/Tapp doesn't that tell you something?
Quote from: Dillen on July 28, 2011, 11:12:46 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 10:49:26 AM
said last year was a bit of a mirage in that once the league caught onto him he fell off...beat up on some bad tackles early in the year
I'm not excited about this whatsoever, but for what it's worth his stats were pretty consistent throughout the year.
yeah i just looked...6.5 first half of year 5.5 second half of year....not sure what he was talking about...maybe his overall pressure on the qb as opposed to sack numbers....or he was just plain wrong
It happens to the best of us, except you of course.
FWIW (very little), Cole is happy to have Babin back in fold: "The hunting party begins in Philadelphia"
He might have worn down last year but he still had 5.5 sacks in the last 8 games.
I know its popular to hate on this move but i don't see whats so hard to understand washburn wanted one of "his guys".
Roob, in between choruses of "Shiny Happy People"...
QuoteIf you preferred Ray Edwards, consider this: Since 2006, Edwards has 29 1/2 sacks -- fewer than Juqua Parker. And wants $8 million per year.
I'm with Drunk. I see it as good move that could be great, or could just be ok. Regardless he was a top DE last year and made the pro-bowl. That has to count for something. He also knows Washburn's system and doesn't have to learn as much in a compressed time - something other DEs would have had to do.
I think everyone is just upset thinking to his first stint here in Philly. We were bitchin about them not doing anything and now that they did, most are bitching what they did. Seems a little chuggish..
Did you say something?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:26:55 AM
i could care less about the money...its the age and the talent that bothers me
Be honest, you are bothered by his skin color.
Golden cute?
Quote from: mikey418 on July 28, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
I'm with Drunk. I see it as good move that could be great, or could just be ok. Regardless he was a top DE last year and made the pro-bowl. That has to count for something. He also knows Washburn's system and doesn't have to learn as much in a compressed time - something other DEs would have had to do.
I think everyone is just upset thinking to his first stint here in Philly. We were bitchin about them not doing anything and now that they did, most are bitching what they did. Seems a little chuggish..
no one is upset....just completely underwhelmed...and its not just his first stint in philly but everywhere hes ever played except for last year...and theres no chance for this move to ever be great....jason babin is old and comes with limited talent...if there is anything he doesnt have its a high ceiling
also i think i got a couple votes for the pro bowl last year
Quote from: lurking wierdo on July 28, 2011, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:26:55 AM
i could care less about the money...its the age and the talent that bothers me
Be honest, you are bothered by his skin color.
i dont know if im bothered by it but its definitely not my favorite...maybe top 3...id have to think about it
Be honest its number 1
Dude's been in the league since '04 and has 30 career sacks. I don't care that they signed him because he's probably slightly better than the other garbage they've been running out opposite of Cole, but it is impossible to get excited over the move.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 12:14:24 PM
Roob, in between choruses of "Shiny Happy People"...
QuoteIf you preferred Ray Edwards, consider this: Since 2006, Edwards has 29 1/2 sacks -- fewer than Juqua Parker. And wants $8 million per year.
I was talking with a co-worker this morning about that...he was swinging from Edwards' sack saying how awesome he is
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2011, 12:35:35 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 12:14:24 PM
Roob, in between choruses of "Shiny Happy People"...
QuoteIf you preferred Ray Edwards, consider this: Since 2006, Edwards has 29 1/2 sacks -- fewer than Juqua Parker. And wants $8 million per year.
I was talking with a co-worker this morning about that...he was swinging from Edwards' sack saying how awesome he is
Half of Edwards sacks last year came in 2 games. 4 sacks in 14 other games doesn't warrant big dollars.
I don't think anyone is excited by this move. Its low risk maybe a solid to high reward. If he matches his production of last year no one will complain.
I think the problem is we all expected the eagles to make some major moves and they haven't.
Quote from: lurking wierdo on July 28, 2011, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2011, 12:35:35 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 12:14:24 PM
Roob, in between choruses of "Shiny Happy People"...
QuoteIf you preferred Ray Edwards, consider this: Since 2006, Edwards has 29 1/2 sacks -- fewer than Juqua Parker. And wants $8 million per year.
I was talking with a co-worker this morning about that...he was swinging from Edwards' sack saying how awesome he is
Half of Edwards sacks last year came in 2 games. 4 sacks in 14 other games doesn't warrant big dollars.
you do know that numbers arent everything...and that teams actually scout these players and know all that they can and cant do
i dont know enough about edwards to give an opinion on whether he is worth it or not...but film tells you a lot more than an nfl.com game log
theres also things like age and market that factor in
also will the day EVER come where people realize there really isnt a salary cap in the nfl and that money doesnt mean shtein
Edwards is over-rated IMO. But there is not that much out there in the DE market. Eagles need to get their secondary and LBs in order and a RT would be a nice addition. If Kolb is gone, they'll need another QB...maybe VY. And you could always put VY in at the goalline to help Vick avoid some hits.
Regardless, I'm anxious to see the team on the field this year.
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. He may not be the best pass rusher in the league but he excels against the run.
Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 01:04:49 PM
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. He may not be the best pass rusher in the league but he excels against the run.
a 26 year old emerging all around very good defensive end would explain his money
Quote from: mikey418 on July 28, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
Edwards is over-rated IMO. But there is not that much out there in the DE market. Eagles need to get their secondary and LBs in order and a RT would be a nice addition. If Kolb is gone, they'll need another QB...maybe VY. And you could always put VY in at the goalline to help Vick avoid some hits.
Regardless, I'm anxious to see the team on the field this year.
VY has the size to play some DE. Texa Tech recruits HS QB's to play DE and LB.
on with Mikey Miss right now
ive never heard him speak
does he have any illness in him
He said 'shtein' and Mikey Miss had to scold him
So he hunts, has tats, AND cusses?!? BAD ASS ALERT
Edit:
Actually, I may refrain from mocking him for my own safety. This pic was taken today:
Babin's last workout in TN (http://twitpic.com/5xb4bc)
I don't know how anyone can be mad with this signing. I liked what I saw him of in limited actions with the Eagles, and last year he really performed on Washburn's tutelage. He's not guaranteed a lot of money, and at least helps strengthen our DEs. Maybe it's time to stop it with the Chicken Little - The Sky is falling Bullshtein on day 2 of free agency.
Quote from: Hawk on July 28, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
I don't know how anyone can be mad with this signing. I liked what I saw him of in limited actions with the Eagles, and last year he really performed on Washburn's tutelage. He's not guaranteed a lot of money, and at least helps strengthen our DEs. Maybe it's time to stop it with the Chicken Little - The Sky is falling Bullshtein on day 2 of free agency.
please quote and show one single comment by anyone who said the sky is falling
you cant
you making up stuff people said because your vagina is wet simply because not everyone sucks at the banner inc teet is more annoying than anything else said in this thread
some people like going 10-6 every year
lay the farg off
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 06:44:55 PM
Quote from: Hawk on July 28, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
I don't know how anyone can be mad with this signing. I liked what I saw him of in limited actions with the Eagles, and last year he really performed on Washburn's tutelage. He's not guaranteed a lot of money, and at least helps strengthen our DEs. Maybe it's time to stop it with the Chicken Little - The Sky is falling Bullshtein on day 2 of free agency.
please quote and show one single comment by anyone who said the sky is falling
you cant
you making up stuff people said because your vagina is wet simply because not everyone sucks at the banner inc teet is more annoying than anything else said in this thread
IGY your entire schtick with both the Phillies and the Eagles is that the sky is falling.... constantly bringing up how the Braves or taterskins are making better moves, etc.
You're complaining that they went with the guy that Washburn is comfortable with, rather than Edwards. Who gives a farg up. We sured up the defensive end rotation.
I also don't defend the front office. I'm pissed they haven't resigned Desean and that Matthews is slotted to be our starting MLB. However, I'm not going to bitch about this move because I'm mad about the other shtein.
i never mentioned edwards a single time
you were against signing him as soon as the AJC rumor was out
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 25, 2011, 04:14:14 PMthe eagles love going after guys that either have 6 or 8 sacks the year before and trying to make them into the next reggie white
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 25, 2011, 06:44:49 PM
the thing is his numbers werent even that great...its wasnt like having all this talent around him freed him up for a 14-15 sack season
i think he could be a 7-8 sack guy on any team
exactly....first of all that was another thread...to my knowledge i have not mentioned him in this thread at all...secondly even when i did talk about him it wasnt like i was saying i wanted him much less that i wanted him instead of babin
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 01:04:49 PM
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. He may not be the best pass rusher in the league but he excels against the run.
a 26 year old emerging all around very good defensive end would explain his money
You didn't mention Edwards?
Quote from: Hawk on July 29, 2011, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 01:04:49 PM
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. He may not be the best pass rusher in the league but he excels against the run.
a 26 year old emerging all around very good defensive end would explain his money
You didn't mention Edwards?
yeah explaining why he got a lot of money from someone is saying i wanted the eagles to sign him over babin
keep reachin for the stars dook
Can we just agree that you're all iceholes and move on?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2011, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on July 29, 2011, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 01:04:49 PM
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. He may not be the best pass rusher in the league but he excels against the run.
a 26 year old emerging all around very good defensive end would explain his money
You didn't mention Edwards?
yeah explaining why he got a lot of money from someone is saying i wanted the eagles to sign him over babin
keep reachin for the stars dook
So what's there to complain about the signing. I'll start complaining when they go into the season with Matthews at MLB and do nothing to address the safety position.
theres nothing to complain about....as ive stated for the 48 hours its completely underwhelming and pretty much unecessary...but im not mad about it
edwards signed for a just a few more bucks than babin
this washburn cat better be god himself
5/$30M/$11M guar from the Falcons
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 29, 2011, 01:38:05 PM
5/$30M/$11M guar from the Falcons
That's kind of infuriating.
So, the accepted opinion is that Edwards, being younger and perceived to be better as an "all-around" end, would have been a better option at those numbers than Babin at his numbers, right?
I mean, I would have preferred Edwards, but I'm an idiot. Besides, Cole and Washburn seem to both have some sort of man-crush on Babin, and all of the ends on the Eagles seem to blend together into one lump of off-and-on and generally mediocre interchangeable parts. So, does it really matter?
Well, it kind of does. fargers.
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. Babin is a rotational guy on a defense filled with rotational guys.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 29, 2011, 02:19:44 PM
So, the accepted opinion is that Edwards, being younger and perceived to be better as an "all-around" end, would have been a better option at those numbers than Babin at his numbers, right?
I mean, I would have preferred Edwards, but I'm an idiot. Besides, Cole and Washburn seem to both have some sort of man-crush on Babin, and all of the ends on the Eagles seem to blend together into one lump of off-and-on and generally mediocre interchangeable parts. So, does it really matter?
Well, it kind of does. fargers.
i said the other day i dont know a whole lot about edwards having seen him play only a few times and never having watched him but the age difference is so great that even if they are equal players edwards shelf life is so much longer...and having seen babin i cant believe that edwards is not at the very least as good
babin does fit the eagles system better since what washburn does is send all his ends up the field and then has his lb's pursue downfield...whereas edwards from all accounts is an all around player who can stand up a tackle in the run game...so if its a system thing then what can you say?
i just think the washburn genius storyline was going to be interesting to watch all year anyway...and now with the babin vs edwards thing thrown into the mix it will be come even more fun to watch it all unfold
Safe to say that Babin's production is a good barometer of Washburn's success? If Babin is healthy and doesn't get double-digit sacks, the excuse certainly can't be that he's drawing double teams over Killa.
Quote from: SD on July 29, 2011, 03:10:17 PM
Edwards is at least a starting caliber DE. Babin is a rotational guy on a defense filled with rotational guys.
On a line with a rotation philosophy. Where's the problem?
Quote from: rjs246 on July 29, 2011, 01:15:28 PM
Can we just agree that you're all iceholes and move on?
IN
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 29, 2011, 03:31:57 PM
Safe to say that Babin's production is a good barometer of Washburn's success?
id say the pass rush as a whole and maybe even the defense...certainly seems like this guy has more power than castillo and may be the de facto DC...shtein if rory segrests opinion had the power to determine the fate of potential eagle free agents then washburn is probably bawlin cristina lurie
EW
Eskin says Babin paid Laws $24,000 for his #93
That'll really piss off the throngs of people with Laws jerseys.
Can't believe Laws couldn't shake Babin for an extra g to make it 25k....then again it is Trevor Laws.
you have to be`a fundamentally stupid person to throw that kind of money away for wearing a particular number
Babin makes himself look like a guy who needs a money manager / someone in his entourage who says "no" to his idiot plans from time to time.
twenty four grand, Jesus Christ
That manager should tell him it's not the jersey number, it's the fact that he's white that will get him remembered if he has a great season. Really great.
Someone stole all of his shtein. (http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/09/jason-babin-philadelphia-eagles-defensive-end-houston-moving-company-guns-boxes-stolen-storage-police/#.TpG845w73dC)
Leads the league in sacks with 7.0
also first in giveaways
On DNL today:
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/300231_10150373609924406_106724289405_8002266_1518785565_n.jpg)
Does this mean he is going to be saying he needs a new contract?
Funny, never noticed but he looks a little like Stallone.
I liked him the first time around. The real test is what he does the second half. Also Killa getting hurt gave him a few weeks to recover from the injury and training camp. I'm hoping he can do his thing all the way thru the season.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 31, 2011, 05:45:36 PM
Does this mean he is going to be saying he needs a new contract?
Funny, never noticed but he looks a little like Stallone.
More like Jose Canseco
More like Lou than Sly, which was the point of the costume anyway, right? Otherwise, he'd have dressed up as Rocky.
Right?
The boxer or the squirrel?
The kid from Mask.
He's not a kid anymore. His mom got him a hooker to pop his cherry. He's a man now. Until he died years ago. Now he's a male corpse. A deflowered male corpse that is.
Raise your hand if you thought Babin would have 18 sacks with 2 games to play.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 18, 2011, 06:31:47 PM
Raise your hand if you thought Babin would have 18 sacks with 2 games to play.
If igy weren't at the game he would be raising his hand. Huge Babin fan he is.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 18, 2011, 06:31:47 PM
Raise your hand if you thought Babin would have 18 sacks with 2 games to play.
I did. I knew he'd be challenging for the league sack lead.
Quote from: Feva on July 28, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
3 sacks, tops...
Racist.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 18, 2011, 06:31:47 PM
Raise your hand if you thought Babin would have 18 sacks with 2 games to play.
i really could care less about him.....but i laugh at the eagle fans who think he helps the team more than hurts....then again most people are dumb sports fans
I'm going to let that bait float on the surface.
Leads the NFL in sacks.
Mock?
He's a downright liability against the run and was one of the worst FA signings in recorded history.
If they would just cut his ass before he has a shot at rewriting recorded history, that would teach him.
Who will be more upset if Babin breaks the NFL record for sacks?
Giants fans
Michael Strahan
God
Havas
Brett Favre, since he wouldn't get to be apart of it this time
Go Jason
Quote from: SD on December 19, 2011, 06:43:31 PM
Who will be more upset if Babin breaks the NFL record for sacks?
Giants fans
Michael Strahan
God
Havas
the football gods no doubt....i really could care less if he does it...in fact i hope he does it so the idiot white trash that love his tattoos and think hes the greatest can shoot off bottle rockets in celebration of the most meaningles record in the history of sports while the real story is how hollow his play hs been and that it helped the team not make the playoffs
I haven't met an Eagles fan who thinks he's the greatest or worships his tattoo's...even remotely. And I've yet to see a Babin jersey...hell I've never even seen a store carrying one for sale. Where are these white trash people you speak of?
they exist in his magical little world of stereotypes
And now we're in the magical world of irony
Lol
Quote from: SD on December 25, 2011, 02:49:34 AM
I haven't met an Eagles fan who thinks he's the greatest or worships his tattoo's...even remotely. And I've yet to see a Babin jersey...hell I've never even seen a store carrying one for sale. Where are these white trash people you speak of?
this board for starters
yeah i farging hate defensive ends that do their jobs and get to the quarterback, bring back victor abirimini, he was great against the run
I love Jason Babin because of his super awesome tattoos
I like him because the hippos don't.
I like him because he's white
If he were black the hippos would luv them sum Babin.
But we all know this.
How awful are those tattoos? Jesus.
Pro. Bowl. lol
i totally get that some people don't like him because all he does is run up field towards the quarterback, but nobody acknowledges that he isn't the one deciding that, his coaches want that from him. I'm sure he could try to be more responsible in the run game but then he loses any effectiveness as an end because if he's not going full bore at the qb he isn't talented enough to get there. so i don't know why people hate him so much for doing what he has skills to do.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 27, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
If he were black the hippos would luv them sum Babin.
not really....i love jared allen
babin is the perfect example of the massive gap btwn people who know football and dont...and in that sense you really need players like him as a way of weeding out those who dont...and i dont mean on this board because we already know who are the haves and have nots but just in general
anyone can watch a game or read a website and see a "sack"...but its harder to see all the 3rd and 6 runs that went for first downs because he refuses to ever stay at home and not run up the field and out of the play....or the 2nd and twos that were set up by a eight yard run right at babin on first down
atl set the blueprint in game two on how to attack the eagles and ran right by babin continously in that game...and then after that the stretch of games where they just got gashed in the run game put them in a hole where they couldnt get out....and lets not even talk about the seattle game which for all intents and purposes ended the season
he definitely wasnt alone...casey matthews was playing for a while...the linebackers suck....the tackles are small....they have no run stopping safetys ect...so by no means am i exclusively blaming babin...and he deserves credit for getting a lot of sacks...but babin turned up his nose at even the thought of taking on a tackle in the run game or holding an edge...his effort in those areas was inexcusably bad and because of this anyone that believes that he had a great year or isnt as much of a detriment as a plus just doesnt know the game
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 27, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
Pro. Bowl. lol
he had to make it because of numbers....whats important to remember is so did eli manning
the real travesty will be if he makes the all pro team...because generally sport specific writers are better at this kind of thing than fans and the all pro team is the only all star team that matters
I don't disagree that Babin was out of position a lot of the time. However.....he improved on that as the season progressed.
With the way the NFL is today getting to the QB is extremely important.
You can say what you want but 18 sacks is 18 sacks. If they had stud LBs and safeties we wouldn't even be having this conversation
Stop acting like the smartest guy in the room Joe Banner! :-*
JPP made the Probowl, thanks to coaches
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 28, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
I don't disagree that Babin was out of position a lot of the time. However.....he improved on that as the season progressed.
his worst game of the year was in seattle three weeks ago
babin is basically a much worse version of assante...a guy that makes plays but who is incredibly overrated and doesnt care about anything but his sack (ints in assantes case) numbers...at least assantes big plays are in the form of a turnover
a telling indication of babins worth is that he had 18 sacks but was rarely ever double teamed...it was like offenses would give him a taste of the qb as long as it kept him running up the field and out of every single non passing play
My point is that while I don't totally disagree with you, there were far bigger problems on defense than Babin.
As far as the Seattle game you could make the argument that it was most players on defenses worst game of the season.
oh clearly....the middle of the defense is far worse than babin...but people already know this
I really love his tattoos. They make him much sexier than he would be otherwise.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 28, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
With the way the NFL is today getting to the QB is extremely important.
You can say what you want but 18 sacks is 18 sacks. If they had stud LBs and safeties we wouldn't even be having this conversation
This is absolutely on point. Better LB and safeties and this conversation doesn't happen. The Lions run the wide 9 but are more successful because they actually have linebackers who can fill the gaps left open by the pass rushing de's. Is Babin an all world player? No. But he's a damn good pass rusher and that's all he was signed for.
jesus no thats not all he was signed for....the babin fan club completely made that up as a way to defend their hero
also this notion that the wide nine requires you to not tackle anyone but the qb or completely ignore all duties except running up the field to get the qb is so wrong
if all he was supposed to do is run 100 miles up the field on every play then hed only be in the game on 3rd and long downs
trent cole plays in the wide nine and does fine against the run....should babin be expected to excel in that area...of course not...but the guy doesnt even attempt to do it because he thinks all that matters is his sack numbers even tho his play in other areas is losing games for the team
He's not farging Reggie White.
Get over it.
Somebody clearly doesn't know what sacks do to change the course of the game.
If Babin had 2 sacks on the year he's be crying for the Eagles to get a new DE that could do so. How you can explicitly blame Jason Babin for the eagles struggles on defense is beyond me. Matter of fact this is one of the most horrendous arguments I've ever seen. Def coordinators would suck dick to get a DE who can get that kind of pressure on a qb.
Quote from: Rome on December 28, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
He's not farging Reggie White.
Get over it.
He might be a religious racist, we don't know.
Quote from: reese125 on December 28, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
Somebody clearly doesn't know what sacks do to change the course of the game.
If Babin had 2 sacks on the year he's be crying for the Eagles to get a new DE that could do so. How you can explicitly blame Jason Babin for the eagles struggles on defense is beyond me.
dopes like this guy are why i rail against babin...sacks are one of the most overrated stats in the game...they depend so much on when in terms of score and point of game that they happen its not even funny...i would say unless they cause a turnover or happen on a huge third down late in the game sacks mean little...which is why the dozens and dozens of gashing runs babin gave up outweight his sacks
Quote from: reese125 on December 28, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
Def coordinators would suck dick to get a DE who can get that kind of pressure on a qb.
omg you are my babin fan club protoype....not only do you have no idea what a sack truly means you brought up the word pressure...a pressure is actually worth more than a sack because a pressure happens in a short period of time...where as a lot of sacks happen after a play breaks down because the secondary maned up or the qb couldnt make a read....
babin gets zero pressures...hes either tackling the qb hes invisible or hes coming mamula style around a deep ass edge and eventually zeroing in on the qb...did he merk his tackle a couple times this year?...definitely but those were few and far between...and as mentioned before no one in weekly meetings is sayign watch out for jason babin...they are saying jason babin does this...take advantage of it
which brings us back to the tons of runs and screens at his side of the ball where he abandons his post and gives up massive chunks of yardage
Sacks are the most overrated stats in the game? LOL. Yeah because every DE in the league has 15 of them. You might be thinking tackles are the most overrated buddy.
You can waste another 7 paragraphs on you're corny ass argument that Babin blows so bad and is the reason for the problems on defense all you want. It won't change the fact that you're wrong. He's doing his job. Does he over pursue sometimes or get stood up-sure-but find me a DE that doesnt. It's not the reason the eagles d sucks by a long shot.
And if you go back and see what I said about him months ago you will clearly see that I am far from a fan boy....I just can't stand when people like you talk out of their ass of how he sucks so bad....but you're right...he got all those sacks because the eagles incredible d manned up the receivers and the plays broke down. Yep no pressure at all.
Its so hard to even come on this board anymore because narcissistic depressed know it all freaks like yourself make it impossible to have a rational conversation.
your entire argument depends on saying that i said that babin is to be blamed for the entire season
which i never said
you are typical boring and like 90% of the population of sports fans....go away you dumb farg....i dont have time for you people
Owned.
lol at still saying owned
you got me brohan
internet win for reecie!
It's almost the end of 2011...you guys have to add up you internet wins to avoid relegation to the EMB.
im down A LOT
Massive inroads coming soon?
in the next fifteen minutes
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2011, 03:02:12 PM
sacks are one of the most overrated stats in the game....
It's comments like this that make you lose all credibility.
coming for someone who grew up during a time when they didnt even count sacks its interesting you feel that way.
and im not riding for havas THIS TIME, but sacks can be very misleading. yea sure demarcus ware has a ton of sacks because hes good. amazing coincidence. but theres more to it than "oh he had 15 sacks he must be good."
All stats can be misleading. Trotter had a lot of tackles. Asante sometimes picks off the ball. Babin gets a zesty new tribal armband every time he gets a sack. The one thing they all have in common is none of them have won a god damned thing in Philly.
The two biggest things a defense goes for are turnovers and sacks. Sure, the stat can be misleading, but one of the most overrated stats in the game?? Thats crazy. It can be devastating to an offense. It leads to a bigger loss of yardage than any other play unless the offense gets penalized. It can lead to turnovers, injuries, and takes an offense out of it's game. If a qb is lining up and knows that a DE is coming and they better be ready, then they're thinking about him and not the play.
Quote from: MDS on December 29, 2011, 01:02:25 AM
coming for someone who grew up during a time when they didnt even count sacks its interesting you feel that way.
The NFL started keeping the stat in '63'. I was two years old. Neither one of you two have a farging clue what your talking about.
first of all i said sacks are overrated not meaningless...secondly i never said babins sacks were meaningless...i said the his utter lack of not just not producing in other aspects of the game but actually getting straight up exposed off sets any good his sacks do
maybe i can put this in a language you can understand better rather than explain the intricacies of the game
trent cole and his 10 sacks had a much better year than babin and his 18 sacks...does that make better sense?
In the NFL about 22 percent of offensive drives end in points. If there is a sack the number drops to about 7 percent. That's important. It's not just a tackle for loss but also big in getting the D fired up and changing momentum, as well as being a marker for pressures, knockdowns etc. that can lead to turnovers. Babin also leads the team in pressures.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/moving_the_chains/Washburn-effect-Castillo-calls-on-the-blitz122311.html
Sacks are critically important. Downplaying their importance is just arguing for argument's sake.
so is tackling people
its funny i dont recall a single babin sack winning a game but i do recall two games specifically...seattle and san fran...where the opponent absolutely murdered him by running to his side and throwing screens in his vacated area that he left to run ten yards up the field on EVERY play
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2011, 07:33:56 AM
so is tackling people
its funny i dont recall a single babin sack winning a game but i do recall two games specifically...seattle and san fran...where the opponent absolutely murdered him by running to his side and throwing screens in his vacated area that he left to run ten yards up the field on EVERY play
I'm not taking a side on this argument because I think both sides make a good point, but he sacked Eli and stripped the ball to essentially win the game vs. the Giants. Probably the biggest moment in the biggest game of the season.
I was against the Babin signing, and I do see igy's point of view...but if you would have told me he would compile 18 sacks this season and several strips I would have called bullshtein. He does sell out at times and he is a liability against the run but his ability to get to the QB is a critical aspect that should not be overlooked.
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 29, 2011, 07:16:37 AM
In the NFL about 22 percent of offensive drives end in points. If there is a sack the number drops to about 7 percent. That's important. It's not just a tackle for loss but also big in getting the D fired up and changing momentum, as well as being a marker for pressures, knockdowns etc. that can lead to turnovers. Babin also leads the team in pressures.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/moving_the_chains/Washburn-effect-Castillo-calls-on-the-blitz122311.html
But has he broken the Mamula record for pressures, that's the question.
not yet but as you can clearly see from the article and pro football focus babin has absolutely 0 pressures.
Quote from: hbionic on December 29, 2011, 09:29:21 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 29, 2011, 07:16:37 AM
In the NFL about 22 percent of offensive drives end in points. If there is a sack the number drops to about 7 percent. That's important. It's not just a tackle for loss but also big in getting the D fired up and changing momentum, as well as being a marker for pressures, knockdowns etc. that can lead to turnovers. Babin also leads the team in pressures.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/moving_the_chains/Washburn-effect-Castillo-calls-on-the-blitz122311.html
But has he broken the Mamula record for pressures, that's the question.
lol...someone gets IT
Quote from: reese125 on December 29, 2011, 09:47:35 AM
not yet but as you can clearly see from the article and pro football focus babin has absolutely 0 pressures.
well you can read pro football focus (whatever that is) or you can actually watch eagle games
I get it..let's blame the bush league linebackers on the pro bowl pass rusher...
LOGIC
0 pressures.
Lol at IGY thinking the defense calls for babin to do anything other then rush the QB when he's lined up in the wide 9. When they bring him in more, maybe, but when he's lined up that far outside, he's doing exactly what the coaches want him to do.
He's HOF Babin to me. A goddamn hero. Rather have him than DeSean. Even his tattoos are better, and that's saying something!
BA-BOOSH-KA!
He def. ought to capitalize on his current fame by landing a local car dealership ad campaign. If they could get Stallone too, you could have Babin play the role of the new-age Rocky and sell a lot of Hyandais.
Gin.
Most of the time, I have better things to do with my gin than sit here shteinting on myself with the rest of you.
But tonight, here I am.
I... wow
smell ya later dick head.
lol FINALLY
my jew worry meter though is going off right now. is andy still in charge?
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Stunning-Move-Eagles-Release-DE-Babin/30ac6436-c8e6-4a40-a91a-a0a03f750ed6
GOOD RIDDANCE
Entertainment value... FINALLY.
vinny curry must have turned heads
also no coincidence two pr guys and a player who has ripped the fans are all gone in the last couple weeks
Wouldn't be shocked at all if he was the clubhouse cancer pimp was talking about
The outspoken white supremacist with all the tattoos a clubhouse cancer? NO WAI
cut nnamdi next
Yes!
Take a hike, jerkoff.
One trick pony who couldn't do his one trick anymore...
Go run with the bulls.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 27, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
Wouldn't be shocked at all if he was the clubhouse cancer pimp was talking about
Spads mentioned attitude issues on twitter - so yeah
Re-reading this thread was funny.
Ray Edwards was the other "premier" DE available at the same time as Babin and ATL cut his ass this year too
Get Edwards?
get atlanta
http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/2012/11/27/eagles-release-jason-babin/
QuoteThings have not been completely harmonious on the defensive front during this seven-game slide. According to a source, a frustrated Trent Cole walked out during a defensive line meeting recently. Behind the Wide-9, the defense compiled 50 sacks a year ago. This season they have just 18 — the same number Babin got all by himself last year.
Some players were apparently rubbed the wrong way by the Washburn-Babin relationship, feeling that he was treated a bit differently than the rest of them. Babin is now gone. And it's very possible Washburn will be as well in the near future.
Well, duh. All the coaches will be gone pretty soon.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 27, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/2012/11/27/eagles-release-jason-babin/
QuoteAnd it's very possible Washburn will be as well in the near future.
The sooner that farging Wide 9 gimmick is out of here the better.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8684001
The problem is they just aren't playing wide enough this year. Otherwise, it would be working great.
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2012/11/jason-babin-me-guy.html
he was just as selfish last year but he got to the qb a lot so no one cared
hes a little bitch
In a fit of rage at the image in that article I may have assaulted the server.
How appropriate... he ended up in Jacksonville.
He did say he wanted to play for a winner.
Quote from: Rome on November 28, 2012, 04:52:22 PM
How appropriate... he ended up in Jacksonville.
Good, he should be comfortable playing in front of a lifeless fan base by now. Now he can rip the 5,000 people that show up to Jaguars home games.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2012, 04:57:12 PM
He did say he wanted to play for a winner.
Now that they've added Babin they're Tim Tebow away from being a Super Bowl contender.
Quote from: Rome on November 28, 2012, 04:52:22 PM
How appropriate... he ended up in Jacksonville.
and london
Best thing Babin has going for him is a good agent, who was able to keep him from going off of the coach, fans etc. That and his shaved armpits. Dude has TO levels of narcissism going on.
QuoteBabin met with press and said he is happy to be in Jax, impressed with practice and wants to be here long term. Of his image in Philly, he said he challenged the Philly writers to be professional. Said they asked loaded questions. Babin said of Eagles, "Things are kind of stagnant. They could ultimately get worse before they get better.'' Besides loaded questions, not being professional, Babin said Philly writers didn't tie shoes, wore shorts, had stinky breath.
ha
Also, their children are ugly.