The Bears are the worst 7-3 team in the history of the NFL.
vs DET 14-19 W
@ DAL 27-20 W
vs GB 17-20 W
@ NYG 3-17 L
@ CAR 23-6 W
vs SEA 23-20 L
vs WAS 17-14 L
@ BUF 22-19 W
vs MIN 13-27 W
@ MIA 0-16 W
They have a good D, but Cutler loves to turn the ball over and the WR suck, probably vying for the worst in the league
I can't wait to go to this game and watch the Eagles dismantle them, showing the Bears to be the frauds that they are
The Bears are what we think they are?
Remember when the awful Bears drove down the field with a minute left in the game two(?) years ago for the winning touchdown after Rocca pinned them inside the ten? That shtein still makes my blood boil.
I think the Eagles lose this game
They never play well vs. the Bears, they're on the road, and coming off 3 big wins.
Quote from: SD on November 22, 2010, 10:45:58 AM
I think the Eagles lose this game
They never play well vs. the Bears, they're on the road, and coming off 3 big wins.
Sleep through the playoffs a few years back?
That was 8 years ago...8
All time record vs. the Bears: 9-27-1
Brian Griese 98 yards FTL
Quote from: SD on November 22, 2010, 10:45:58 AM
I think the Eagles lose this game
They never play well vs. the Bears, they're on the road, and coming off 3 big wins.
Didn't they beat the bears last season?
Yes, but their all time record is horrible. And I realize games 20 years ago are irrelevant but I think back to the Sunday night game a few years ago when they couldn't punch it in and Gocong got burned in coverage. They don't play them well and coming off 3 big wins I see this as an obvious let down game.
i sure hope they figure out how to defend the "roll out and throw across the field to a wide open rb/te" play
Quote from: SD on November 22, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
Yes, but their all time record is horrible. And I realize games 20 years ago are irrelevant but I think back to the Sunday night game a few years ago when they couldn't punch it in and Gocong got burned in coverage. They don't play them well and coming off 3 big wins I see this as an obvious let down game.
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The Eagles have nothing to fear because Tomahawk will be there supercheering his way to previously unreached levels of amazingness. All of which will be plain to see/hear/feel through the magic of television.
i think he has 50 yard line seats, but i can't confirm that.
I dont know why this would be such a let down game. The Bears have only given up 6 passing td's all year, and I think the eagles like to pass. Not to mention they have given up the least amount points per game in the league.
This is an evenly matched game from a scoring perspective the way I look at it. Olsen and Forte out of the backfield against Bradley Im sure will be their focal point. Cutler has been sacked the most in the league, so just got to hope they get to him, make him fumble and they got to win on field position. Shtein wont be easy.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 22, 2010, 11:51:32 AM
The Eagles have nothing to fear because Tomahawk will be there supercheering his way to previously unreached levels of amazingness. All of which will be plain to see/hear/feel through the magic of television.
Quote from: SunMo on November 22, 2010, 11:52:12 AM
i think he has 50 yard line seats, but i can't confirm that.
Obviously I'm excited to go to this game
Quote from: reese125 on November 22, 2010, 11:52:34 AM
I dont know why this would be such a let down game. The Bears have only given up 6 passing td's all year, and I think the eagles like to pass. Not to mention they have given up the least amount points per game in the league.
This is an evenly matched game from a scoring perspective the way I look at it. Olsen and Forte out of the backfield against Bradley Im sure will be their focal point. Cutler has been sacked the most in the league, so just got to hope they get to him, make him fumble and they got to win on field position. Shtein wont be easy.
This is why I posted the Bears schedule....they haven't played anybody worth a shtein other than the Packers and Giants, and the reason they barely beat the Packers was because of penalties.
Technically the Bears gave up 7 passing TDs since Calvin Johnson got jobbed in week 1. The Giants have as good of, if not better, defense than the Bears
Enjoy freezing your ass off, when the sun sets midway through the first quarter. I live 30 miles from the stadium, and would have gone to a game by now if they'd stop scheduling them in late Nov/Dec.
Jesus it gets farging cold around here.
farg the Bears. The only way the Bears win is if the Eagles turn over the ball like crazy or the defense just does not show up at all. Cutler sucks, their offensive line sucks, and their defense while physical isn't as good as the Giants.
If you can contain Hester and Forte, they really have no one that can absolutely kill you, and it isn't like Hester and Forte are Andre Johnson and Adrian Peterson either.
I am confident the Eagles can win this game, but it is not a gimme. This is a big game when it comes to setting themselves up for a playoff run.
this is exactly the sort of game the eagles usually lose because they just came off an emotional divisional win and there's bound to be a let-down.
i don't know, though. this team just seems different for some reason. it could be vick or it could be the youthful players not giving a shtein about what's happened in the past. i just get a weird vibe from this group - a cockiness that belies their actual production thus far.
i don't want to get my hopes up because whenever you do you just get crushed for your troubles, but...
you have that feeling because they dont have a bitter bedwetting comedian at the most important position on the field
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense and the Bears defense has the personnel to emulate that game plan. I see this as a total toss-up. Cutler is wild and chinless but he's certainly good enough to beat the Eagles defense. If the Bears contain Vick as well as the Giants did this is a game that will be within a touchdown the whole time.
The Giants have a better offense than the Bears do. I have to imagine that the Eagles D can keep them in check as well.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense.
i keep hearing this everywhere and i dont get it
the eagles were a couple dropped passes away from putting a 40 spot on the board...outside of 3rd down efficiency i dont see anywhere the giants game plan worked
eagles had 400 yards offense and average six yards per play
the giants defense is superior to the skins defense which is why they contained vick better than the skins did but i didnt see the blueprint of some sort of master plan that the rest of the league is going to emulate
exactly...
the final score shoulda been somewhere in range of 44-17...if that actually did happen, everyone would be chalking this game up a semi-easy win..its clearly going to farg me come mid-january, but like romey said, i believe in this team..
Birds 33 Cubs 17
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense.
i keep hearing this everywhere and i dont get it
the eagles were a couple dropped passes away from putting a 40 spot on the board...outside of 3rd down efficiency i dont see anywhere the giants game plan worked
eagles had 400 yards offense and average six yards per play
the giants defense is superior to the skins defense which is why they contained vick better than the skins did but i didnt see the blueprint of some sort of master plan that the rest of the league is going to emulate
This. 2 dropped passes in the end zone by Pimp and Avant. It's not like we're talking about Thrash or Small or any of the countless other receivers the eagles have had over the years who have unsure hands. These were freak drops that are caught 99x out of 100....especially the one to Avant.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense.
i keep hearing this everywhere and i dont get it
the eagles were a couple dropped passes away from putting a 40 spot on the board...outside of 3rd down efficiency i dont see anywhere the giants game plan worked
eagles had 400 yards offense and average six yards per play
the giants defense is superior to the skins defense which is why they contained vick better than the skins did but i didnt see the blueprint of some sort of master plan that the rest of the league is going to emulate
90 of those yards came on two late McCoy runs. I'm talking about containing Vick and for 55 minutes of the game they kept the offense in check and limited them to 16 points. Vick had no room to move. Those drops were key of course, but what are we supposed to do? Discount the drops and say the Eagles actually scored 40 points when they didn't?
Look at the Bears/Giants game if you have questions about which team has more talent.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense.
i keep hearing this everywhere and i dont get it
the eagles were a couple dropped passes away from putting a 40 spot on the board...outside of 3rd down efficiency i dont see anywhere the giants game plan worked
eagles had 400 yards offense and average six yards per play
the giants defense is superior to the skins defense which is why they contained vick better than the skins did but i didnt see the blueprint of some sort of master plan that the rest of the league is going to emulate
90 of those yards came on two late McCoy runs. I'm talking about containing Vick and for 55 minutes of the game they kept the offense in check and limited them to 16 points. Vick had no room to move. Those drops were key of course, but what are we supposed to do? Discount the drops and say the Eagles actually scored 40 points when they didn't?
all im saying is 72 hours ago god himself couldnt contain mike vick....now there is a blueprint to stop him for everyone to see?
there is no blueprint and he isnt unstoppable all at the same time...the eagles had a perfect storm against one of the worst defenses in the league one week and played a hard fought tough game against one of the best defenses in the league the next week
these blanket overreactions in both diesctions are ridiculous
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense.
i keep hearing this everywhere and i dont get it
the eagles were a couple dropped passes away from putting a 40 spot on the board...outside of 3rd down efficiency i dont see anywhere the giants game plan worked
eagles had 400 yards offense and average six yards per play
the giants defense is superior to the skins defense which is why they contained vick better than the skins did but i didnt see the blueprint of some sort of master plan that the rest of the league is going to emulate
90 of those yards came on two late McCoy runs. I'm talking about containing Vick and for 55 minutes of the game they kept the offense in check and limited them to 16 points. Vick had no room to move. Those drops were key of course, but what are we supposed to do? Discount the drops and say the Eagles actually scored 40 points when they didn't?
Aren't you discounting the 90 yards on McCoy runs for the same reason?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense.
i keep hearing this everywhere and i dont get it
the eagles were a couple dropped passes away from putting a 40 spot on the board...outside of 3rd down efficiency i dont see anywhere the giants game plan worked
eagles had 400 yards offense and average six yards per play
the giants defense is superior to the skins defense which is why they contained vick better than the skins did but i didnt see the blueprint of some sort of master plan that the rest of the league is going to emulate
Exactly. Vick threw for 258 yards and completed 63% of his passes, scored a TD, and had a few others dropped. If that's called 'containing' someone then that's scary. From what I saw the Giants did what Jimmy Johnson did with the mush rush, but not every team in the league boasts the D-line the Giants do. They were successful from keeping him from running for big gains because their D-line is big and athletic.
maybe they meant it was effective because it kept Vick from putting up 60, even if those tds were caught.
During the game they kept pointing out how the Giants were making Vick run go his right where he runs rather than pass, but there were times he had space to run to the left for a big gain if he had gone that way. They will see this on the tape and be able to exploit it next game.
I actually heard an analyst on NFL Radio say yesterday that the Giants controlled the tempo of the game. I have to wonder what game he was watching because outside of a few minutes the Eagles did what they wanted to in that game. And the fact that 90 of those yards came on McCoy runs at the end is even better. We all have bitched for years about how the Eagles never run to close out games.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
Despite the fact that the Giants lost they established a good game plan for the Vick-led Eagles offense and the Bears defense has the personnel to emulate that game plan. I see this as a total toss-up. Cutler is wild and chinless but he's certainly good enough to beat the Eagles defense. If the Bears contain Vick as well as the Giants did this is a game that will be within a touchdown the whole time.
Besides Julius Peppers, I don't know anybody on the Bears D-Line. If they were any good, the Bears D would probably have sacked QBs more than 19 times. For the season, the offenses the Bears have faced average 18.16 points per game, and 4 of their opponents (Panthers, Dolphins, Vikings, and Seahawks*) are in the bottom 6 of the league in that category. *Seahawks, one of the worst road teams in the past decade, beat the Bears in Chicago
The Bears are overrated and the Eagles will prove them to be the frauds they truly are
Their scoring offense is 25th in the NFL
Quote from: charlie on November 23, 2010, 09:48:23 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
90 of those yards came on two late McCoy runs. I'm talking about containing Vick and for 55 minutes of the game they kept the offense in check and limited them to 16 points. Vick had no room to move. Those drops were key of course, but what are we supposed to do? Discount the drops and say the Eagles actually scored 40 points when they didn't?
Aren't you discounting the 90 yards on McCoy runs for the same reason?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 23, 2010, 10:16:37 AM
I actually heard an analyst on NFL Radio say yesterday that the Giants controlled the tempo of the game. I have to wonder what game he was watching because outside of a few minutes the Eagles did what they wanted to in that game. And the fact that 90 of those yards came on McCoy runs at the end is even better. We all have bitched for years about how the Eagles never run to close out games.
Same game Al Michaels and Collinsworth were. Do these "experts" read the game stats?
I was surprised they handled the Giants as well as we did Sunday. The team is hot right now and the Bears IMO are not a team capable of stopping Vick. I just can't see it happening right now. This is a whole new team with Vick at QB.
The Giants did show the way to really slow Vick down, which is to blitz from his left and make him run right. The Giants were getting good pressure on that side and when Vick runs right, he's not looking down field as much and is just tucking and running more. I guess that's to be expected since he's a lefty, but I can't recall him throwing a single pass on Sunday when he ran to the right. He's definitely got to keep his eyes downfield because I got a feeling the Bears are going to be pounding that side of the line all day.
The bears are just going to line up 11 guys over Jason Peters, I dont know why no one ever tried it before.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 23, 2010, 02:59:10 PM
The Giants did show the way to really slow Vick down, which is to blitz from his left and make him run right. The Giants were getting good pressure on that side and when Vick runs right, he's not looking down field as much and is just tucking and running more. I guess that's to be expected since he's a lefty, but I can't recall him throwing a single pass on Sunday when he ran to the right. He's definitely got to keep his eyes downfield because I got a feeling the Bears are going to be pounding that side of the line all day.
The New Vick will be prepared for that
Homer.
Is New Vick like the New Testament? Less wrath and sacrifice, more hyperbolic stories about a pretty cool guy from dozens of sources?
Quote from: charlie on November 23, 2010, 03:03:26 PM
The bears are just going to line up 11 guys over Jason Peters, I dont know why no one ever tried it before.
the right side of the line will still be off sides
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 23, 2010, 02:59:10 PM
The Giants did show the way to really slow Vick down, which is to blitz from his left and make him run right. The Giants were getting good pressure on that side and when Vick runs right, he's not looking down field as much and is just tucking and running more. I guess that's to be expected since he's a lefty, but I can't recall him throwing a single pass on Sunday when he ran to the right. He's definitely got to keep his eyes downfield because I got a feeling the Bears are going to be pounding that side of the line all day.
I dunno, maybe, but an analyst about 10 posts ago was saying if Vick looked to run left there were lanes with a lot of room for a big gain and the Eagles would probably see this on tape for the next game and exploit it, so the Giants may not have found the answer.
I keep hearing today that the Eagles always lose in Chicago, but didn't they win 2 of the last 3 there and possibly 3 of the last 4?
Won in 2004 with TO when he did the crunches. Won last season. I think they played in 2008 too and lost though, but I can't remember for sure.
Eagles win.
Wrong thread.
Mark me down anyway.
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
Correct about the vendetta
Eagles seem to play better on the road than at home
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
Sacks are not a measurement of how good a defense is. Points allowed and takeaways are the 2 most telling stats imo and the Bears are at the top of the league in both areas. In fact, they are #1 in points allowed and #2 in takeaways (Eagles are #1).
Meanwhile, the Eagles are 5th in sacks (28) but are T-19 in points allowed with 22.6/game.
The Bears defense is legit, there really isn't any disputing that. Their offense is the major weakness as they have problems at pretty much every single position, including QB. This is where the Eagles will win or lose the game imo.....if the D doesn't give Chicago any freebees on offense, then it's going to be very hard for the Bears to win. Hopefully the front 4/7 can get enough pressure to force Cutler into throwing an easy pick 6.
I dispute the legitimacy of the Bears defense by virtue of the quality of the offenses they've faced. It's easy to keep the Bills, Panthers, Cowboys (in week 2), Vikings, and Dolphins from scoring points. I'm not saying they have a bad defense, but it's not like the '85 Bears, or any other historic defense.
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
ebb and flow is why i thought theyd lose to the giants...now i feel like until vick loses a game this team is exempt from ebb and flow...im fully on board the vick train and the defense is slowly but surely making a believer out of me
most importantly unlike last year where they didnt beat a team with a winning record the entire season this year they beat the best team in the nfc (without vick btw) the colts and the giants in the first ten games...i dont know if they are a steelers ravens or patriots..ie one of the elite teams in the league and teams that are basically above the normal nfl ebb and flow but they are closer to one of those teams than they are to last years version of the eagles
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2010, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
ebb and flow is why i thought theyd lose to the giants...now i feel like until vick loses a game this team is exempt from ebb and flow...im fully on board the vick train and the defense is slowly but surely making a believer out of me
most importantly unlike last year where they didnt beat a team with a winning record the entire season this year they beat the best team in the nfc (without vick btw) the colts and the giants in the first ten games..i dont know if they are a steelers ravens or patriots..ie one of the elite teams in the league and teams that are basically above the normal nfl ebb and flow but they are closer to one of those teams than they are to last years version of the eagles
Might as well throw the Jags out there too seeing as they are tied with Indy for 1st place in their division. They played early in the year and the Jags weren't playing well at the time, but the Eagles absolutely man handled them.
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Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
Sacks are not a measurement of how good a defense is. Points allowed and takeaways are the 2 most telling stats imo and the Bears are at the top of the league in both areas. In fact, they are #1 in points allowed and #2 in takeaways (Eagles are #1).
Meanwhile, the Eagles are 5th in sacks (28) but are T-19 in points allowed with 22.6/game.
The Bears defense is legit, there really isn't any disputing that. Their offense is the major weakness as they have problems at pretty much every single position, including QB. This is where the Eagles will win or lose the game imo.....if the D doesn't give Chicago any freebees on offense, then it's going to be very hard for the Bears to win. Hopefully the front 4/7 can get enough pressure to force Cutler into throwing an easy pick 6.
Cutler is no great shakes, but that line is atrocious. Here's hoping they get a lot of pressure from the lineman. That should make it very difficult for the the Bears to score.
nm
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2010, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
ebb and flow is why i thought theyd lose to the giants...now i feel like until vick loses a game this team is exempt from ebb and flow...im fully on board the vick train and the defense is slowly but surely making a believer out of me
most importantly unlike last year where they didnt beat a team with a winning record the entire season this year they beat the best team in the nfc (without vick btw) the colts and the giants in the first ten games...i dont know if they are a steelers ravens or patriots..ie one of the elite teams in the league and teams that are basically above the normal nfl ebb and flow but they are closer to one of those teams than they are to last years version of the eagles
I don't know if I'd put the Ravens at the same level as the Steelers and Pats, but I'd love to see an Eagles/Pats matchup. Final score would be something like 44 to 40...who knows who'd be the winner
ravens have the same record as the steelers and won in pittsburgh and should have won in new england
little better little worse...take your pick....but they are def on the same level
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2010, 09:57:52 PM
ravens have the same record as the steelers and won in pittsburgh and should have won in new england
little better little worse...take your pick....but they are def on the same level
Yup. Their offense isn't scoring as much as I thought they would with all of the additions they made at WR, but they're still one of the top teams in the league.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2010, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
ebb and flow is why i thought theyd lose to the giants...now i feel like until vick loses a game this team is exempt from ebb and flow...im fully on board the vick train and the defense is slowly but surely making a believer out of me
most importantly unlike last year where they didnt beat a team with a winning record the entire season this year they beat the best team in the nfc (without vick btw) the colts and the giants in the first ten games...i dont know if they are a steelers ravens or patriots..ie one of the elite teams in the league and teams that are basically above the normal nfl ebb and flow but they are closer to one of those teams than they are to last years version of the eagles
Completely agree. They're finding ways this year to win the games they typically lose. Can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something about this team that just feels different. I don't really expect a letdown from these guys...
Asante still hasnt practiced yet this week because of his knee
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2010, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
ebb and flow is why i thought theyd lose to the giants...now i feel like until vick loses a game this team is exempt from ebb and flow...im fully on board the vick train and the defense is slowly but surely making a believer out of me
most importantly unlike last year where they didnt beat a team with a winning record the entire season this year they beat the best team in the nfc (without vick btw) the colts and the giants in the first ten games...i dont know if they are a steelers ravens or patriots..ie one of the elite teams in the league and teams that are basically above the normal nfl ebb and flow but they are closer to one of those teams than they are to last years version of the eagles
Completely agree. They're finding ways this year to win the games they typically lose. Can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something about this team that just feels different. I don't really expect a letdown from these guys...
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I don't know which is more ridiculous....your obsession with McNabb or Munson. I swear you can't go even a day without mentioning either one of them.
i hate them both so much i cant even begin to describe it
munson is way worse....mcnabb is fun to just ridicule and embarrass...where as sans sarge i think most of us can agree that the world would be a much better place if munson was dead
The world would be a better place, on average, if everyone here were dead.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 26, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
The world would be a better place, on average, if everyone here were dead.
I turn the world on with a smile, motherfarger.
Because your toothless mouth looks like a vagina?
Partly.
Quote from: MDS on November 26, 2010, 07:37:27 PM
i hate them both so much i cant even begin to describe it
Just as IGY has ordered you to.
he orders me to do tons of things but hating mcnabb and munson are simply natural. its like wanting to get a blumpkin.
The mancrush is a little out of hand here
Quote from: General_Failure on November 26, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
The world would be a better place, on average, if everyone here were dead.
Even I big brother?
QuoteThe Philadelphia Eagles' defense has suffered a significant blow for Sunday's game against the Bears.
The team has confirmed that cornerback Asante Samuel has been ruled out with a sprained MCL and isn't making the trip to Chicago. Joselio Hanson will start in his place.
If he's going to miss a game, this is probably the one to miss. The Bears receivers don't scare me. What does scare me though is whether or not McDermott will be able to put together a nice game plan to compensate for the loss.
That's where I miss JJ, he was really good at covering up weaknesses. Somebody get McDermott a oiuja board.
enough with the jj shtein already..if hanson isn't ready to play tomorrow it's his fault - not mcdermotts, nor would jj have any way of changing that.
I think Hanson is a fine player and will be ready to go. However, now you've got 2 starting corners who weren't starting a month ago and because of that, there's less depth in nickel and dime packages. That's the part that worries me....can these other guys step up and can McDermott implement an effective game plan with guys who don't get much run on the field.
PS....I miss JJ.
this kinda shtein happens to every team, every year. I know they're 2-9, but the bengals had a guy playing corner on thursday night who they just picked up on Monday, and he played damn well. losing asante won't have nearly the impact that losing a guy on the dline would have..as long as there is constant pressure on cutler, it doesn't matter who you have back there.
with or without 22, eagles win this one easily.
Very few teams can get constant pressure on a qb. Are you saying DCs don't matter?
The Eagles DL are good enough to penetrate Chicago's brutally awful line. Cutler's been a punching bag all season, and their run game isn't very good.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 27, 2010, 03:44:45 PM
Very few teams can get constant pressure on a qb. Are you saying DCs don't matter?
when playing against a qb like cutler, the defensive gameplan should be an easy one, making the dc fairly inconsequential
I look forward to seeing if Trevard Lindley can make some more plays. He's a gamer.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 22, 2010, 10:39:14 AM
.........the WR suck, probably vying for the worst in the league
Where do they stand amongst the likes of Thrash and Pinkston? Or those guys the Eagles had in McNabbs first year who really, really sucked and whose names I can't seem to remember considering the fact that I will never ever look anything up when there are people to do it around.
Does Ctrl-0 make you shut up?
lol
So what's the depth chart look like now at CB? After Lindley? Will Hughes be activated?
Brandon Graham can fill in
Asante should still pick off Cutler relaxing at home
Not a great start.
Why is Eldra Buckley getting the ball on the 2nd play of the game? I'm down for running the ball Andy but you have Shady McCoy and Jerome Harrison. Why is your 3rd stringer in there?
Quote from: Munson on November 28, 2010, 04:19:23 PM
Why is Eldra Buckley getting the ball on the 2nd play of the game? I'm down for running the ball Andy but you have Shady McCoy and Jerome Harrison. Why is your 3rd stringer in there?
He's outsmarting himself....probably figured that the defense wouldn't expect him to run there.
Cole with the big sack
KILLA! Good start for the D.
PIMP
Don't like him returning kicks.
The only way to stop is to kill him and put him out a few weeks. Dude is unstoppable.
....same for Michael Vick
Psst, Michael....the white guy is not as fast as the black guys...can't lead him that much
Celek conspiracy is on.
McNabb would have completed that pass. 3-0 good guys.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 04:27:06 PM
McNabb would have completed that pass. 3-0 good guys.
Probably would have resulted in stop, drop and roll though.
Gotta make that throw, Mike...
Well there's Forte's obligatory big run that he gets every game. Should mean every other run goes for 1 yard or less right?
Well...that was easy.
Has anyone been to the new Soldier Field? I was at the old one in 95 before it was remodeled into the Death Star. It was a shtein hole back then.
Quote from: Munson on November 28, 2010, 04:32:58 PM
Well there's Forte's obligatory big run that he gets every game. Should mean every other run goes for 1 yard or less right?
Yes, I promise.
Thank you Don.
The oline is actually retreating further back than Vick is dropping.
Jesus Vick is running for his life right now. Bears aren't even blitzing
Vick sure looks like running is the last thing he wants to do today.
Burn the game plan.
lol defense looks terrible
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 04:38:56 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 28, 2010, 04:32:58 PM
Well there's Forte's obligatory big run that he gets every game. Should mean every other run goes for 1 yard or less right?
Yes, I promise.
Oh shtein, we forgot about Hester. Nice tackling Romes.
Dear Asante, please come back
love all of us
Can someone keep their footing?
So.... It's going to be one of THOSE games, huh?
Oh yeah, Hanson's ready. Cutler two td passes in the first quarter :boom
Why is the field this bad anyway? This is Linc a few years ago bad
Quote from: LBIggle on November 28, 2010, 04:46:55 PM
Can someone keep their footing?
Johnny Knox, Matt Forte, and the four farging guys the Eagles can't keep out of Vick's pocket don't seem to be falling down.
Clay Harbor, pro bowl!
jesus, the safety's are like 18 yards deep presnap. That's unreal.
Exactly, WTF with this field? Disney on Ice in town?
Time to run some 15 yard deep crossing routes. Line gotta give him some time to let it develop.
Nice farging catch
I'dl ike to thank God for Jason Avant's hands
There's those hands. Avant and the te's need to have a big game with the safetys playing prevent.
Avant and the TE, well Harbor anyway, should be there all day.
Vick just has to get them the ball. He seems to think everyone on the team's as fast as DeSean :-D
Come on Pimp, catch that.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 04:50:03 PM
Exactly, WTF with this field? Disney on Ice in town?
Apparently there was a high school game there this weekend. Judging by the field conditions, they must have had a demolition derby at halftime.
Obviously Jackson doesn't like the low throw. That was a hell of a pass.
Keep running the ball.. Get them safety's up.
Bad decision there. One guy in the endzone vs. three bears defenders.
That was a td saving play by urlacher.
There we go!
MACLIN!!!!!!!
Nice farging hold you dumb Samoan.
Nice. I heard Thawk is at the game. I wonder if he saw that.
Quote from: Munson on November 28, 2010, 04:57:29 PM
Bad decision there. One guy in the endzone vs. three bears defenders.
Not really.. It was a heck of a play by urlakerz
True, white boy was somehow open....but that's a reaaaaaaal tight window to fit it into with 3 guys around it.
Just too risky for my liking at that point. Alls well that ends well though
Special teams fail
Special Teams rode the short bus today.
Without a doubt tight.. But that's all he's going to be getting this game with the deep safety's and 7 in coverage.
Nice job rook.
Brandon Graham sighting FTW
Hopefully the crossing routes come open behind the LB's, otherwise there won't be many balls for Maclin and DeSean.
Somebody forgot to block Graham.
Nice blown assignment bears.
Free yards ftw.
They need to ride the te's and running game to make those safety's come up and hopefully open up a big play later in the game. But it's Reid so he'll just try misdirection, direct snaps and trick plays.
The o-line is reverting back to early season form.
Nice Shady
Run game and curl routes? In game adjustments? WTF?
Poor Celek, guy can't buy a break.
Celek is so slow he can't even catch up to a shovel pass.
Fg's for everyone. :boom
Where is the farging protection up front?
lol jesus farging christ why is julius peppers UNfargINGBLOCKED.
how the farg do you call a play that purposely leaves him unblocked? :boom
That was terrible execution on every play except the qb draw. I'd be pissed at the offense if I were Vick.
Good kick coverage. Finally
And the one line that may be worse than the Eagles? Da Bears.
Back to back sacks.
Trent Cole is in beast mode today.
Everyone sacks! Yes!
There we go baby, get that bitch shook.
This guy don't wanna battle, he's shook....
Celek sighting.
Did he go to Cranbrook?
It didn't end badly so it's progress.
Quote from: LBIggle on November 28, 2010, 05:10:42 PM
Run game and curl routes? In game adjustments? WTF?
I know, WTF is going on?
Farg farg farg.
Shake it off, McCoy
Gay
Get up Shady, get up.
McCoy coming back in looks like.
Looks like Shady will be back in after the 2 min warning. :yay
Clear it out wiht Avant and Celek and let MAclin settle right down in the middle again.
Put Duce in pads! He'd rock Peppers.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Get up Shady, get up.
I imagine you jumping up and down in slow motion like Adrianne yelling at Rocky. Except you're hotter. Let's go helmet to helmet.
Mother farger.
Ugggggggggggh wtf
Sumbitch....you knew it was going to happen sometime. Was just hoping it wouldn't be in a semi-critical moment.
Even if that doesn't get tipped, where the hell was Vick going with that ball?
Celek was wide open :boom
No way that ball gets to Maclin. farg.
Nice tackling dicks.
That one was definitely a bad decision on Vick. And now their rape farging the defense. Someone step the farg up and stop being bitches
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 05:29:17 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Get up Shady, get up.
I imagine you jumping up and down in slow motion like Adrianne yelling at Rocky. Except you're hotter. Let's go helmet to helmet.
It was more like Tony Montana.
Nice work Lindley.
Yes play 12 yards deep inside the 30.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 05:29:17 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Get up Shady, get up.
I imagine you jumping up and down in slow motion like Adrianne yelling at Rocky. Except you're hotter. Let's go helmet to helmet.
It was more like Tony Montana.
Gangsta Hott. I'm aroused.
Nice job you farging bums. In a little more than a minute, these iceholes went from being on the verge of taking the lead, to giving up 6.
Yes, keep going for picks retards. Been watching too much Asante Samuel.
Quintin Mikell is completely laughable.
Holy shtein, that was as pathetic an effort by the defense we've seen all year. Blame all around there.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on November 28, 2010, 05:37:24 PM
Quintin Mikell is completely laughable.
Ship his ass to Boise and he can tryout for kicker.
Lol, cutler has 7 completions and 3 of them are td's.
Who else is amazed that the Eagles still have all 3 timeouts?
We want a field goal, we want a field goal. farg you.
This team looks bad right now.
OK, now we'll see if the reincarnation of Michael Vick is for real.
Getting picked apart by Cutler is pretty pathetic
Quote from: Don Ho on November 28, 2010, 05:43:27 PM
OK, now we'll see if the reincarnation of Michael Vick is for real.
True.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on November 28, 2010, 05:44:13 PM
Getting picked apart by Cutler is pretty pathetic
I was expecting Forte, Hester but not the chinless wonder.
The rest of this game is on the defense, not the offense/Vick. There will be enough points to be had if the Bears are held to a relatively low second half production. But you can't come back if you can't get stops.
He's gotta run more in this game. The line is getting pushed back and collapsing the pocket. The mid range passing seemed to be working, they need to go back to that and Vick needs to check it down or run decisively. He's looking a bit uncomfortable with all this pressure. Bears really are exposing our zesty D. Ugh I hope the coaches get something going here soon.
This game has heralded the first broken Comcast remote of the season
No more td passes from the mouthbreather!
Lol and were off and running.
Gonna be a horse collar on that one.
End should have contained.
Jay cutler Hoydas. Jay farging cutler.
This defense is a god damned embarrassment. Farg you iceholes.
Vick, for whatever reason, can't hit Celek in stride
Brent celek is slow bro. Figure it out. The field is a sloppy mess. Please read the memo.
I'm not used to bitching about another team's field, but where the farg did the Bears get their turf people from? That field is a farging mess.
Won't need those pesky timeouts later.
Why do you call a time out there, unless you think you have a play that will def get you 3rd and 18, but not 3rd and 23
Because timeouts are a burden to worry about and They really won't need them later.
Quote from: LBIggle on November 28, 2010, 06:06:06 PM
Won't need those pesky timeouts later.
He figured that having them at the end of the first half didn't do any good, so might as well get them out of the way early in the 2nd half.
Enjoy the game fellas. Off to juniors b ball game. farg this shtein.
farg this defense. Unreal.
ahve them pinned deep and you let that shtein happen.
I hope they score a td right here so I can pop a blue ray on. This defense is a joke and the reason they have no shot of doing anything this year. Unless it's a complete blown block by the bears they don't have a shot.
Game.
If plays like that are happening, game's over.
I miss JJ
I miss Jim Miller.
Not watching the game today (by choice - looks like I made a good one) but did they bring the defense to Chicago because it sure doesn't look like it so far.
Why the farg was Lindley backing up off of Hester before that last play? There's only like 12 yards of field behind you so he can't beat you deep. Get up on the line and Andre Johnson his ass.
The Eagles enjoy making Mike Martz look like a genius.
Started out good, but turned ugly since that INT before the half. Is Da Bears' offense really this good, or is our D missing the starters this badly?
Quote from: NC_Eagle on November 28, 2010, 06:28:25 PM
Is Da Bears' offense really this good
The Bears haven't had a good offense in like 50 years. This year is no different. McDermott & Co are letting Cutler have the best game of his life.
Neither. The D is just having a bad game. Samuel wouldn't have made much of a difference.
It wouldn't have been so bad if not for that farg-up at the end of the first half. A TD or at least a figgie there and game's completely differently. Instead it's a 14 point swing and well, there they are now.
Anyway, here's hoping the Vick's pull it out. Going to finish watching my movie. Enjoy the game folks, I'll watch the recording later.
Kicking the ball out of bounds would be a smarter decision than letting the special teams try and make a tackle.
Lindley needs to be farging cut.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 27, 2010, 02:11:40 PM
However, now you've got 2 starting corners who weren't starting a month ago and because of that, there's less depth in nickel and dime packages. That's the part that worries me....can these other guys step up and can McDermott implement an effective game plan with guys who don't get much run on the field.
Doesn't help that the special teams are playing very special either. :boom
Quote from: NC_Eagle on November 28, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
Doesn't help that the special teams are playing very special either. :boom
I've actually found them to be quite special.
Quick td. Jackson, get open.
The field is atrocious.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 06:51:18 PM
Quote from: NC_Eagle on November 28, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
Doesn't help that the special teams are playing very special either. :boom
I've actually found them to be quite special.
I meant special as in special ed.
I read that wrong.....read it as if you said "aren't."
Ugh Jackson. Why are you short arming that?
That screen really sucked.
Red zone offense is terrible today. Screen plays with a 10 yard field don't farging work.
farg you Sean you farging bitch. I don't care how good you are. Hoyda.
The only positive thing I've seen today is Shady's blocking. Even on that Vick scramble, he laid into someone pretty good. So yay for that I guess.
Defense needs to actually make a play. I'm not holding my breath.
Umm...why kick the FG there? I have to assume the chances of 4th and goal from the 18 are greater than getting an onsides kick
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 07:00:03 PM
The only positive thing I've seen today is Shady's blocking. Even on that Vick scramble, he laid into someone pretty good. So yay for that I guess.
Getting back for the tackle on the INT was impressive too.
Three points, and not a single farg was given.
Badly played game...TERRIBLY coached game
Games been in garbage time since bitch boy short armed that that td pass.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 06:56:38 PM
I read that wrong.....read it as if you said "aren't."
N/P
Cutler 14/20 247 4TD 0INT
Nope, don't miss Samuel or Hobbs at all...sigh.
Down by 15 with 4 min left and you kick a fg. So you still need 2 td's. Does fat ass have Akers on his fantasy team or something? Go for it fatty.
Would have liked to see a pick 6 there, Joselio
Quote from: NC_Eagle on November 28, 2010, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 28, 2010, 06:56:38 PM
I read that wrong.....read it as if you said "aren't."
N/P
Cutler 14/20 247 4TD 0INT
Nope, don't miss Samuel or Hobbs at all...sigh.
Miss Samuel? Maybe. Miss Hobbs? Not really.
If Asante were playing, the bears wouldn't have been running that short slant. Or, if they did, there would have been at least one pick.
Back down to earth for the eagles. They got punched in the mouth against a good team and curled up in the fetal position in the rape dungeon and kept taking it. If they don't get up early, their horribly mediocre.
Just when you thought it was safe to write off Celek.
How the F did he catch that?!?!
Right under Urlakker's arm. Damn.
HOF Celek!
Holy shtein what a throw/catch there.
Too little too late, but still.
Too little, too late. Oh well.
Holy shtein....please let him not have been touched.
farg. Nevermind.
Cool, no review for a game changing play? farg the NFL and their farging bitch rules.
Quote from: LBIggle on November 28, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Cool, no review for a game changing play? farg the NFL and their farging bitch rules.
Hey! You should be grateful that these new rules prevented anyone from hitting him with their helmet.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 28, 2010, 07:13:19 PM
Just when you thought it was safe to write off Celek.
No, it's safer than abstinence.
The Bears aren't making the playoffs, so those loser fans are in for a reality check.
I was fine with the offense today overall, but the defense will never play that poorly again this year. Lick your wounds and get at the Andre Johnson-less Texans in a few days.
Quote from: LBIggle on November 28, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Cool, no review for a game changing play? farg the NFL and their farging bitch rules.
I wouldn't want to win off that ticky-tacky bullshtein anyway. Knox recovered the kick fair and square, and the Bears beat the shtein out of the Eagles in that game. The defense and special teams were particularly pitiful, and it's kind of amazing the Eagles had a chance at all at the end.
I wasn't ok with the offense.. They never scored when needed.. And committed a turnover at a crucial time. Their stats are padded mcnabb style. That systematic time consuming drive with time ticking down at the end of the game could have been accomplished at any point in the game. The defense and special teams are obviously more to fault. Mikell is the worst safety in the league. Desean Jackson is a straight up bitch. The line should be neutered.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 28, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on November 28, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Cool, no review for a game changing play? farg the NFL and their farging bitch rules.
I wouldn't want to win off that ticky-tacky bullshtein anyway. Knox recovered the kick fair and square, and the Bears beat the shtein out of the Eagles in that game. The defense and special teams were particularly pitiful, and it's kind of amazing the Eagles had a chance at all at the end.
It was more a vent at the NFL for being a bunch if bitches. He eagles got smacked around and deserved to lose.
When you consider the offense they went against a top defense, I wouldn't say it was a great effort, but it was certainly acceptable. That effort is good enough to beat the Bears on most nights. This loss is 100% on the defense and STs. I don't know why they were slipping, sliding, and missing tackles all day but I'm sure it will get corrected. The Eagles are great off losses.
Quote from: King Cole on November 28, 2010, 07:20:45 PM
The Bears aren't making the playoffs, so those loser fans are in for a reality check.
The Bears are up a game and a half on Green Bay and lead the division with Detroit, Minny, and Green Bay still left to play. How are they NOT making the playoffs??
And I see the Vick's lost... that's what happens when you dn't play defense in the NFL. Good job guys! :yay
Quote from: TexasEagle on November 28, 2010, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 28, 2010, 07:20:45 PM
The Bears aren't making the playoffs, so those loser fans are in for a reality check.
The Bears are up a game in a half on Green Bay and lead the division with Detroit, Minny, and Green Bay still left to play. How are they NOT making the playoffs??
And I see the Vick's lost... that's what happens when you dn't play defense in the NFL. Good job guys! :yay
I think GB is a better team and will win out in the end. I think the Bears finish 9-7.
Bears already beat them once head to head, unless they implode down the stretch they'll make the playoffs. There's going to be three teams fighting for a WC spot (right now NY, GB, NO) with NY on the outside looking in. For the next couple of weeks it's anyone's game for the playoffs for the top NFC teams... except the Falcons, they're a lock to get in at this point... them and which ever zesty team takes the west.
So, we go back to hating Vick now?
I don't know why anyone would hate Vick even though you are being facetious. He played fine. Not great, but fine. Imagine how bad Kolb would have been killed today.
Vick: "We gotta get better everywhere, starting with me."
Possessed by Andy Reid, obviously.
someone just told PGL to discuss how much of a fraud Bradley is
Bradley looks awful. Celek looked awful again except for the one great catch. Bradley may be coming off an injury, but I think Celek just sucks. Either way we need fewer white players.
There are times to say Celek sucks, after tht game is not one of them. Vick missed him twice.
That's because Vick expects Celek to be faster. Hey, maybe you can go play TE for the Eagles, 4.5.
Hell yeah. The 6 inch, 70 pound difference in body size shouldn't be a problem!
now PGL is discussing how Graham is a bust already, and pimp is scared of getting hurt
and apparently pimp is pissed about being called out by Andy after the game and didn't talk to reporters
According to Les Bowen and other reporters, DeSean got pissed at Vick for something and was visibly frustrated after the game. Andy Reid had to say something to him and he didn't talk to the media after the game.
Drama. Yes. Finally.
Now all we need is Kolb to start speaking up about how the team would have won with him at QB.
Vick said during his PC that he would "talk to the young guy" and "get the young guy under control" or something that effect.
If DeSean is really pissed, he can STFU
Mikell and Bradley are farging frauds. It isn't just this game. They both suck out loud right now. Obviously missing Samuel hurt but you're going to struggle when two of your supposed better defensive players are terrible. The Eagles D has some nice complimentary players and one guy who constantly plays at a high level in Antonio Dixon.
Vick had a couple of guys open earlier in the game down field and elected not to throw which worried me. He didn't do that the rest of the game and played well enough to win, but it is a disgrace to get gashed like the Eagles D did today against a zesty bears offense.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 28, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
now PGL is discussing how Graham is a bust already, and pimp is scared of getting hurt
and apparently pimp is pissed about being called out by Andy after the game and didn't talk to reporters
How is Brandon Graham a bust? He hasn't even played a full season.
I'm not giving up on him already, but I think some people were expecting Orakpo numbers and dominance out of the #13 pick overall.
5 starts, 12 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 forced fumbles
...but none of the 1st-round DEs they passed on have done much either...
Jason Pierre-Paul: 0 starts, 19 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 pass deflections, 2 forced fumbles (and 6 of those tackles plus the 2 sacks/FF happened today vs Jacksonville)
Derrick Morgan: 0 starts, 5 tackles, 1.5 sacks, 1 pass deflection
Jerry Hughes: 0 starts, 3 tackles
...but they did pass on Earl Thomas and Devin McCourty (and Dez Bryant)
Pimp all pissed off? Save it for the contract negotiation. Missed most of the second half, did he short arm one?
Graham might have better numbers on the season, and in fact be more effective as a whole, if McDermott didn't have him playing tackle so much to start the year and dropping back into coverage half the time. I still don't understand what he was trying to accomplish with that.
Mario Williams did nothing his rookie year either. DEs usually take time to blossom.
So did Pimp short arm a pass tonight? I did not see the second half.
he dropped two easy ones....one in the 2nd and one in the 4th
how long till he's doing situps in his driveway?
http://www.csnphilly.com/11/28/10/Despondent-DeSean-Avoids-Media-After-Los/landing_eagles.html?blockID=362178&feedID=6332 (http://www.csnphilly.com/11/28/10/Despondent-DeSean-Avoids-Media-After-Los/landing_eagles.html?blockID=362178&feedID=6332)
Here we go.
QuoteStill, the Eagles did score 26 points against the NFL's No. 1 scoring defense – the most points the Bears have allowed this year and 11 more than their average.
Feel better folks?
No, for some reason. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 28, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
now PGL is discussing how Graham is a bust already, and pimp is scared of getting hurt
and apparently pimp is pissed about being called out by Andy after the game and didn't talk to reporters
Both Pimp and Maclin would rather fall on the field than try for extra yards
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 29, 2010, 12:53:15 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 28, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
now PGL is discussing how Graham is a bust already, and pimp is scared of getting hurt
and apparently pimp is pissed about being called out by Andy after the game and didn't talk to reporters
Both Pimp and Maclin would rather fall on the field than try for extra yards
I know that everyone loves Jackson. I love Jackson. He's great, blah blah blah. If I see him dive to the turf like a bitch one more time instead of fighting for yardage I'm going to kick a hole in my dog's neckmeat. That shtein makes me so farging angry and he does it every farging game.
Can you blame Jackson though? I mean he weighs what? 150 lbs?
If he doesn't like to get hit maybe he should play CB. Or baseball.
cmon rj.. how do you think torry holt and marvin harrison extended their careers....by going to the ground because they weigh a buck 80.
he still played like garbage yesterday because that hit he took has him shook
i knew people would hate on him for that...farging retards. Yeah, I wish he'd go head on with a linebacker or safety...then he'd be a tough guy! And be out for 3 more weeks.
I guess it's a pretty sweet testament to pimp that everybody has wanted to hate on him and it took until the 11th game of his third season before he gave reason.
Rather they avoid hits and save their bodies then fight for extra yards taking shots the entire way and risk losing the ball after they get stripped and hear everyone bitching about how they should have gotten down rather then fighting for extra yards and getting stripped. Which is exactly what would happen. It's a no win for some of these guys.
I mean seriously, how many times just this year have you seen turnovers because guys are fighting for yards and get stripped when they should have taken what they had and gotten on the ground. The only time they need to fight for yards is if they're right AT the first down marker and it's either make the first or have to punt. Other than that, who cares if they gain another two feet while they have three 200+ pound guys hanging on them.
It's not manly enough!
People who are scared to be hit should definitely play professional football.
Look I'm not suggesting that he lower his shoulder and take on LBs to show much of a man he is. I'm talking about not diving on the ground when he's got five yards or more to gain by simply taking a run-of-the-mill NFL hit. How many touches a game does he even get? 10 at the most? it's not like he's getting pounded play after play. You're a football player. Take a hit.
If there is such a thing as a "good" loss, this is it. Helping the Bears get into the playoffs instead of the Packers is fine with me. The Eagles have to beat the Giants again, the Cowboys at least once, and get one more win (possibly this Thursday against the Andre Johnson-less Texans), and the division is all but assured.
Holy shtein, is Asante a difference-maker or what?
Quote from: rjs246 on November 29, 2010, 09:54:31 AM
People who are scared to be hit should definitely play professional football.
Look I'm not suggesting that he lower his shoulder and take on LBs to show much of a man he is. I'm talking about not diving on the ground when he's got five yards or more to gain by simply taking a run-of-the-mill NFL hit. How many touches a game does he even get? 10 at the most? it's not like he's getting pounded play after play. You're a football player. Take a hit.
you guys are arguing over him getting down? argue over the real issue right now...him alligator arming passes--in the end zone no less.
hey I dont care how small you are, if youre the pimp mack daddy of all nfl receivers or whatever....you keep short arming passes--esp in the end zone and making others look bad.... you fall in a bad category of receivers real quick. Im sure/hope it was a one game thing, but if it happens again..let the roasting begin by the media.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:06:52 AM
If there is such a thing as a "good" loss, this is it. Helping the Bears get into the playoffs instead of the Packers is fine with me. The Eagles have to beat the Giants again, the Cowboys at least once, and get one more win (possibly this Thursday against the Andre Johnson-less Texans), and the division is all but assured.
Holy shtein, is Asante a difference-maker or what?
I think beating the Bears and then losing to the Texans would have been a good loss. It's still hard to complain with the way this team has been playing, but that game farging pissed me off. Worst performance defensively of the year.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 29, 2010, 10:11:40 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:06:52 AM
If there is such a thing as a "good" loss, this is it. Helping the Bears get into the playoffs instead of the Packers is fine with me. The Eagles have to beat the Giants again, the Cowboys at least once, and get one more win (possibly this Thursday against the Andre Johnson-less Texans), and the division is all but assured.
Holy shtein, is Asante a difference-maker or what?
I think beating the Bears and then losing to the Texans would have been a good loss. It's still hard to complain with the way this team has been playing, but that game farging pissed me off. Worst performance defensively of the year.
The defense was completely hit or miss all game, mostly miss, but the 2nd half was better than the first. And I got quite a rush from the ridiculous Celek TD - more excited than any one play in the Giants game. Naturally, it's better to lose to an AFC team, but seriously.... the Bears are not as good as the Packers - Eagles just laid a defensive egg.
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
I'll just quote myself here
The Eagles were going to come back to earth at some point. They had a huge win against Indy, had to play MNF against the Skins, on the road, against Mcnabb, and the Skins were coming off a bye, then play on a short week for first place against the Giants. I thought they'd beat the Giants and lose to the Bears - which they did. It's the ebb and flow of how games go. They'll beat the Texans this week then we'll see how they do after that. In the grand scheme of things this loss means nothing.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:06:52 AM
If there is such a thing as a "good" loss, this is it. Helping the Bears get into the playoffs instead of the Packers is fine with me. The Eagles have to beat the Giants again, the Cowboys at least once, and get one more win (possibly this Thursday against the Andre Johnson-less Texans), and the division is all but assured.
Holy shtein, is Asante a difference-maker or what?
I didn't realize how important Asante is on that defense. I think he would have probably had an interception or two yesterday with the way Cutler throws.
Quote from: reese125 on November 29, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 29, 2010, 09:54:31 AM
People who are scared to be hit should definitely play professional football.
Look I'm not suggesting that he lower his shoulder and take on LBs to show much of a man he is. I'm talking about not diving on the ground when he's got five yards or more to gain by simply taking a run-of-the-mill NFL hit. How many touches a game does he even get? 10 at the most? it's not like he's getting pounded play after play. You're a football player. Take a hit.
you guys are arguing over him getting down? argue over the real issue right now...him alligator arming passes--in the end zone no less.
hey I dont care how small you are, if youre the pimp mack daddy of all nfl receivers or whatever....you keep short arming passes--esp in the end zone and making others look bad.... you fall in a bad category of receivers real quick. Im sure/hope it was a one game thing, but if it happens again..let the roasting begin by the media.
I completely agree.
Quote from: SD on November 29, 2010, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: SD on November 24, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
If the Bears defense is so good, why do they have so few sacks? 19 sacks ties the Bears for 21st in the NFL. Conversely, no offensive line has allowed their QB to be sacked as often as the 37 the Bears have given up
No one thinks the Bears are that good (and you clearly have a vendetta against them probably stemming from living in the area). I just think the ebb and flow of things says the Eagles lose this game. It's not about matchups/coaching/who's better, it's about the Eagles coming off of 3 big wins, the Bears coming off a long week, and the Eagles having to travel.
I'll just quote myself here
The Eagles were going to come back to earth at some point. They had a huge win against Indy, had to play MNF against the Skins, on the road, against Mcnabb, and the Skins were coming off a bye, then play on a short week for first place against the Giants. I thought they'd beat the Giants and lose to the Bears - which they did. It's the ebb and flow of how games go. They'll beat the Texans this week then we'll see how they do after that. In the grand scheme of things this loss means nothing.
you writing a paper on ebb and flow or something?
I can understand the alligator arms a little after two concussions in two years, but he has now dropped two passes that would have been huge plays the last two weeks.
Overall Jackson has been too inconsistent this season, he needs to start stepping up.
see thats the problem...you never get a free pass for alligator arming in the nfl.
if there is a top 5 ranking of things you dont do as as a nfl receiver...that is prob #1.
By the way it's farging awesome that Vick is not afraid to get right in Pimp's face and tell him he expects more.
I love the way he is taking over this team. He had a mediocre game yesterday overall - the INT was huge and the fumbles were plentiful but lucky - but I really feel if it were Donnie Mac under center, he would have mailed it in much sooner. Throwing worm burners and flashing cheesy grins down 3+ scores.
I am not giving him a free pass.....just saying that I understand why he would be a little gun shy.
And I agree with FF it is pretty sweet to see a guy in there that actually has some real leadership qualities.
The defense has been inconsistent all year. There were a few games where opposing teams have gashed us up pretty bad on the ground. Chicago did a great job of running of set up the play action. They schooled us really. Bad tackling didn't help either. It was pretty infuriating watching Cutler pass and run at ease and act all cocky about it like he's something special.
Vick def looked like a diff QB, but then again most QB's under that much pressure dn't do nearly that well. The tipped INT was luck, but Maclin was basically triple teamed anyway which makes me wonder why he even attempted that. Then again he hits Celek with the most perfect throw in triple coverage later in the game. Either way they both were very risky passes and we've know seen he is human.
Djack on the other hand, he's def not what he says he is. He's shown flashes on greatness this year, but for the most part looks timid. Punt returns or receiving, he's just not taking risks and its hurting his play. Look some might argue he's not fighting for extra yards, but his #1 priority as a receiver is catching the damn ball. I dn't care if he doesn't fight for the yards, I care when he bitches out in the end zone. He has to man the farg up and take it, otherwise everyone will be gunning for him because they know in the back of his mind he's soft. I am glad Avant stepped up his game and made some sick catches yesterday, he made up for the drop. Desean hasn't.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:14:48 AM
And I got quite a rush from the ridiculous Celek TD - more excited than any one play in the Giants game.
um, what??
Quote from: mussa on November 29, 2010, 10:35:26 AM
The defense has been inconsistent all year. There were a few games where opposing teams have gashed us up pretty bad on the ground. Chicago did a great job of running of set up the play action. They schooled us really. Bad tackling didn't help either. It was pretty infuriating watching Cutler pass and run at ease and act all cocky about it like he's something special.
Vick def looked like a diff QB, but then again most QB's under that much pressure dn't do nearly that well. The tipped INT was luck, but Maclin was basically triple teamed anyway which makes me wonder why he even attempted that. Then again he hits Celek with the most perfect throw in triple coverage later in the game. Either way they both were very risky passes and we've know seen he is human.
Djack on the other hand, he's def not what he says he is. He's shown flashes on greatness this year, but for the most part looks timid. Punt returns or receiving, he's just not taking risks and its hurting his play. Look some might argue he's not fighting for extra yards, but his #1 priority as a receiver is catching the damn ball. I dn't care if he doesn't fight for the yards, I care when he bitches out in the end zone. He has to man the farg up and take it, otherwise everyone will be gunning for him because they know in the back of his mind he's soft. I am glad Avant stepped up his game and made some sick catches yesterday, he made up for the drop. Desean hasn't.
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More than you love IGY's baby batter. More than Rusty loves beer. More than Rome loves puns.
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http://www.gcobb.com/2010/11/29/what-was-it-that-happened-to-set-andy-reid-off/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
QuoteWhat Was It That Happened To Set Andy Reid Off?
During the warm up session before each NFL game, the punt returners catch quite a few punts to get an idea of what it's going to be like to catch the ball in that particular stadium on that particular day.
They get the chance to see how the wind is affecting the ball. They're able to see if the sun is affecting their vision when the ball is at its highest point in the sky and as it falls.
Yesterday, Eagles top punt returner DeSean Jackson told one of the coaches that it was too cold in Chicago to catch punts before the game. He ran some routes and caught some passes but went back in the locker room without catching any punts.
As you would expect, this didn't sit well with Andy Reid when he learned about it.
I know you've heard about how Reid went off after the game by now. I was told that Reid was angered to the point that he was beet-red and trembling. I was told that he went on a tirade after the locker room doors were closed and said something like, "if you're going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". That doesn't sound like a happy Andy Reid.
Jackson was mentioned during Reid's tirade because the wide receiver wasn't looking at the big man when he was talking. On top of that, Reid heard about Jackson cutting corners before the game. Reid doesn't believe in cutting corners. He is a stickler for detailed preparation.
I can understand Reid being angry because anybody who has been around the game for a long time knows that this young team was being patted on the back too much. They were being told that they were great by too many people. The superlatives and adulation was coming from everywhere and it was coming constantly.
As a kid, my parents would tell us in that good old country talk that we were "getting too big for our britches". That Eagles team which showed up in Chicago on Sunday was starting to "smell themselves" as my grandfather used to say.
They were getting "big-headed" and starting to cut corners. Reid knows that cutting corners is a sign of a team that's "getting too big for their britches".
The Bears were ready to play. They were being told that they were impostors and not legitimate. The national television game got personal for the Bears during the week, while the Eagles looked at the Bears as just another victim in their way.
You could tell by the battle on the lines, which requires a lot of "want to" and effort, that Chicago had to have this game while the Eagles wanted this game.
NFL football is a week to week test. If you do good one week, you have a day or two to celebrate then you have to forget it. If you don't forget it, you can almost guarantee that you won't play as well the next week.
Preparation is the hardest part of the NFL. It can get boring, but it must be done. The games are the fun, but the preparation is the work.
I completely understand Reid going off, but I also understand Jackson's attitude. I commend him from not having one of those total blow up interviews. I know that DeSean Jackson is pissed and I think he behavior was a message to Reid that he's tired of being underpaid.
I don't think it was a good thing for him to start cutting corners, by not catching punts before the game but I understand.
I'm sure that Jackson has a difficult time of keeping a good attitude, nowadays. Every time he practices or plays a game, he knows there are players on the field who have achieved absolutely nothing but are being paid much more than he's making.
He knows that all of the guys who have accomplished as much as he has in the league, are making as much as five, six, seven or eight times as much as he's making. I'm sure that he's taken some ribbing from the guys for being so drastically underpaid.
During that time he was out because of the second concussion he has suffered in the last two years, Jackson couldn't help but realize that he's one play from being unable to play again. I'm sure he thought about how little security he has at this point in his career.
I'm sure , Jackson remembers all of the guys who were on the team when he was drafted a few years ago, that are no longer in the league. He weighs about 165 pounds and knows that an injury might prevent him from ever getting a big pay day.
I'm sure he and Michael Vick have talked about it. Vick is making $5 million dollars this year, but he's in a unique situation where his behavior off the field has him in a position where he's underpaid. Vick has nobody to blame for his situation other than himself.
On the other hand, Jackson has done all the right things and kept his mouth shut, but he's still not making any where near the kind of money he should be making. They want him to return punts, run reverses and be one of the league's best receivers, yet they are in no rush to pay him fairly.
So far the Eagles have been unable willing to at least make a good will jester, by giving him a bonus like the ones they gave Donovan McNabb a couple of years ago and the one they gave Kevin Kolb this past off season.
Quote from: SD on November 29, 2010, 02:44:03 PM
http://www.gcobb.com/2010/11/29/what-was-it-that-happened-to-set-andy-reid-off/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
QuoteWhat Was It That Happened To Set Andy Reid Off?
During the warm up session before each NFL game, the punt returners catch quite a few punts to get an idea of what it's going to be like to catch the ball in that particular stadium on that particular day.
They get the chance to see how the wind is affecting the ball. They're able to see if the sun is affecting their vision when the ball is at its highest point in the sky and as it falls.
Yesterday, Eagles top punt returner DeSean Jackson told one of the coaches that it was too cold in Chicago to catch punts before the game. He ran some routes and caught some passes but went back in the locker room without catching any punts.
As you would expect, this didn't sit well with Andy Reid when he learned about it.
I know you've heard about how Reid went off after the game by now. I was told that Reid was angered to the point that he was beet-red and trembling. I was told that he went on a tirade after the locker room doors were closed and said something like, "if you're going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". That doesn't sound like a happy Andy Reid.
Jackson was mentioned during Reid's tirade because the wide receiver wasn't looking at the big man when he was talking. On top of that, Reid heard about Jackson cutting corners before the game. Reid doesn't believe in cutting corners. He is a stickler for detailed preparation.
I can understand Reid being angry because anybody who has been around the game for a long time knows that this young team was being patted on the back too much. They were being told that they were great by too many people. The superlatives and adulation was coming from everywhere and it was coming constantly.
As a kid, my parents would tell us in that good old country talk that we were "getting too big for our britches". That Eagles team which showed up in Chicago on Sunday was starting to "smell themselves" as my grandfather used to say.
They were getting "big-headed" and starting to cut corners. Reid knows that cutting corners is a sign of a team that's "getting too big for their britches".
The Bears were ready to play. They were being told that they were impostors and not legitimate. The national television game got personal for the Bears during the week, while the Eagles looked at the Bears as just another victim in their way.
You could tell by the battle on the lines, which requires a lot of "want to" and effort, that Chicago had to have this game while the Eagles wanted this game.
NFL football is a week to week test. If you do good one week, you have a day or two to celebrate then you have to forget it. If you don't forget it, you can almost guarantee that you won't play as well the next week.
Preparation is the hardest part of the NFL. It can get boring, but it must be done. The games are the fun, but the preparation is the work.
I completely understand Reid going off, but I also understand Jackson's attitude. I commend him from not having one of those total blow up interviews. I know that DeSean Jackson is pissed and I think he behavior was a message to Reid that he's tired of being underpaid.
I don't think it was a good thing for him to start cutting corners, by not catching punts before the game but I understand.
I'm sure that Jackson has a difficult time of keeping a good attitude, nowadays. Every time he practices or plays a game, he knows there are players on the field who have achieved absolutely nothing but are being paid much more than he's making.
He knows that all of the guys who have accomplished as much as he has in the league, are making as much as five, six, seven or eight times as much as he's making. I'm sure that he's taken some ribbing from the guys for being so drastically underpaid.
During that time he was out because of the second concussion he has suffered in the last two years, Jackson couldn't help but realize that he's one play from being unable to play again. I'm sure he thought about how little security he has at this point in his career.
I'm sure , Jackson remembers all of the guys who were on the team when he was drafted a few years ago, that are no longer in the league. He weighs about 165 pounds and knows that an injury might prevent him from ever getting a big pay day.
I'm sure he and Michael Vick have talked about it. Vick is making $5 million dollars this year, but he's in a unique situation where his behavior off the field has him in a position where he's underpaid. Vick has nobody to blame for his situation other than himself.
On the other hand, Jackson has done all the right things and kept his mouth shut, but he's still not making any where near the kind of money he should be making. They want him to return punts, run reverses and be one of the league's best receivers, yet they are in no rush to pay him fairly.
So far the Eagles have been unable willing to at least make a good will jester, by giving him a bonus like the ones they gave Donovan McNabb a couple of years ago and the one they gave Kevin Kolb this past off season.
Reid will not stand for all that clowning around.
A good will jester?
farging charlie beat me to it.
seems G is unable willing to learn English
Quote from: Die-Hard on November 29, 2010, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:14:48 AM
And I got quite a rush from the ridiculous Celek TD - more excited than any one play in the Giants game.
um, what??
I watched both games on TV. Your frame of reference is a bit skewed.
The Giants game was painful because seemingly every big play was reviewed.
Cobb makes some good points but misses on others. True Jackson is probably think he's not getting paid enough. Cobb doesn't mention pimp had in the back of his mind, until it got jarred to the forehead, that there's always a chance any given play could be his last for a long time, or even ever.
What I dont agree with is
QuoteThey want him to return punts, run reverses and be one of the league's best receivers, yet they are in no rush to pay him fairly.
They are paying him fairly. He's getting exactly what he and the Eagles agreed to. Not to mention this pat year their hands were fairly tied by the CBA as to what they could offer (though others later apparently found a loophole, though it might limit future earnings.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 29, 2010, 03:00:26 PM
seems G is unable willing to learn English
When he was a player he got hit in the head real hard and suffered a concession.
lol, I can't imagine Andy Reid calling them all bitches
farg that article. Jackson is playing for a better contract and if he's holding back and down right scared to catch the ball, why would we want to re-sign him? Look if the kid has had 3 solid years in a row and is legit, resign him. He's yet to do that, has shown flashes of absolute greatness, but really he's been hit or miss all year long. That doesn't sit well in my stomach and I am sure its not a good sign for the FO as well.
CHARACTER ISSUES
lol holy shtein.
Ok, his childish acts after last nights game. He won't field punts because its too cold?! His 2 TD passes dropped into the endzone? You guys can't tell me this guy isn't scared of taking a hit. He won't field a punt with a defender anywhere near him. He looks scared and its effecting his play, that's all I have to say.
so getting his head smashed in twice is making him hesitant...maybe a legitimate point. but you take that and jump to the conclusion he has character issues?
Quote from: mussa on November 29, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
farg that article. Jackson is playing for a better contract and if he's holding back and down right scared to catch the ball, why would we want to re-sign him? Look if the kid has had 3 solid years in a row and is legit, resign him. He's yet to do that, has shown flashes of absolute greatness, but really he's been hit or miss all year long. That doesn't sit well in my stomach and I am sure its not a good sign for the FO as well.
CHARACTER ISSUES
Even if he has character issues, which I don't believe he does, the Eagles need to re-sign him, Maclin, and Vick to long term contracts
I wonder if the fact that he's being outplayed by Maclin could have anything to do with it?
Any rate, we're all probably reading WAY too much into this. Dude had a shtein game and to some extent cost his team a W. Felt like shtein about it. Move along.
yeah i dont really understand what he did after the game that was so bad...was frustrated because they lost/he had a poor game and didnt talk to the media.....omg cut him!
and what the hell is mussa talking about being to cold for pimp to return punts...or that hes to scared
i guess i imagined his 35 yard punt return yesterday?
gotta love the haters coming out of the woodwork to rip one of the few non qb's in the nfl who opponents game plan against
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:31:32 AM
By the way it's farging awesome that Vick is not afraid to get right in Pimp's face and tell him he expects more.
I love the way he is taking over this team. He had a mediocre game yesterday overall - the INT was huge and the fumbles were plentiful but lucky - but I really feel if it were Donnie Mac under center, he would have mailed it in much sooner. Throwing worm burners and flashing cheesy grins down 3+ scores.
Totally agree. This is what this team lacked for years. Vick was the first to admit his interception was the game changer. He blew it and he didn't cower in a corner.
We may be reading to much into this but Pimp has looked tentative since "the hit".
Nice to see Avant bounce back, he looked like a beast out there.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2010, 05:09:14 PM
and what the hell is mussa talking about being to cold for pimp to return punts...
He's probably talking about the fact that Jackson said it was too cold to practice fielding punts before the game, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: mussa on November 29, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
farg that article. Jackson is playing for a better contract and if he's holding back and down right scared to catch the ball, why would we want to re-sign him? Look if the kid has had 3 solid years in a row and is legit, resign him. He's yet to do that, has shown flashes of absolute greatness, but really he's been hit or miss all year long. That doesn't sit well in my stomach and I am sure its not a good sign for the FO as well.
CHARACTER ISSUES
What the farg is this?
It's mussa having a stroke over something and then trying to communicate it coherently. Happens from time to time. It's embarrassing for everyone, really.
If you know of any coherent way to say the Eagles shouldn't re-sign Pimp... let me know. That's what mussa seems to be getting at. What kinda bullshtein is that?
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on November 29, 2010, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 10:14:48 AM
And I got quite a rush from the ridiculous Celek TD - more excited than any one play in the Giants game.
um, what??
I watched both games on TV. Your frame of reference is a bit skewed.
The Giants game was painful because seemingly every big play was reviewed.
Except for the one that actually mattered..Im pretty sure Shady's TD run was the play of the season so far.
I can't decide if I liked the opening play against the Skins better or McCoy's TD run
I am honestly laughing at the sky is falling, OMG OMG OMG, attitude from the media and people I've talked to. Really? Both starting CBs out (one of whom has like a thousand INTs) and you expect to see the defense to play up to the level? They attacked the secondary because they knew it was dead with injury.
As far as this "teams are figuring out Vick" spew...holy crap. LOL Enough already! The line played zesty against a really good defense. Vick wasn't outstanding, but he played well enough to win that game. Had the defense been healthy and playing better, they win the game.
Oh yeah, Reid's playcalling makes me want to stab myself in the eyeball with an alcohol soaked Q-tip repeatedly.
Except Hobbs being out is better for the defense
lol @ cutting jackson.
jesus christ...
you didn't hear they cut him?!?! omgz team cancer/randymoss/to
Quote from: mussa on November 29, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
farg that article. Jackson is playing for a better contract and if he's holding back and down right scared to catch the ball, why would we want to re-sign him? Look if the kid has had 3 solid years in a row and is legit, resign him. He's yet to do that, has shown flashes of absolute greatness, but really he's been hit or miss all year long. That doesn't sit well in my stomach and I am sure its not a good sign for the FO as well.
CHARACTER ISSUES
worst eagles draft pick ever.
false....that's donovan mcnabb
Muss, really? :o :-D
mussa really outdid himself with that.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 29, 2010, 05:34:59 PM
I am honestly laughing at the sky is falling, OMG OMG OMG, attitude from the media and people I've talked to. Really? Both starting CBs out (one of whom has like a thousand INTs) and you expect to see the defense to play up to the level? They attacked the secondary because they knew it was dead with injury.
As far as this "teams are figuring out Vick" spew...holy crap. LOL Enough already! The line played zesty against a really good defense. Vick wasn't outstanding, but he played well enough to win that game. Had the defense been healthy and playing better, they win the game.
Oh yeah, Reid's playcalling makes me want to stab myself in the eyeball with an alcohol soaked Q-tip repeatedly.
According to the national media the Bears won 59-28 and amassed 700+ total yards. Idiots. Birds score on the Vick INT drive it's a whole different story.
O/U for Jackson yards from scrimmage on Thursday night is set at 150. And I'd take the over.
Pimp going to tear that Texan secondary a new one.
farg the Media, for the last three weeks before the Bears game, Vick was the greatest player in the game today, but now, after one game, the defenses of the league are figuring him out?? Screw those pile on, fly off the handle bitches. What, they didn't see the Eagles D crapping a Mount Rushmore size turd out there yesterday?
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2010, 07:23:09 PM
O/U for Jackson yards from scrimmage on Thursday night is set at 150. And I'd take the over.
Pimp going to tear that Texan secondary a new one.
Word.
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
farg the Media, for the last three weeks before the Bears game, Vick was the greatest player in the game today, but now, after one game, the defenses of the league are figuring him out?? Screw those pile on, fly off the handle bitches. What, they didn't see the Eagles D crapping a Mount Rushmore size turd out there yesterday?
It was two games...supposedly the Giants figured out how to stop him.
Thing is... knowing how to stop the guy and BEING ABLE to stop the guy are two totally different things. Not every defense in the league is as athletic and talented as the Giants and Bears.
Hell... I know how to stop LeBron in the open court. Doesn't mean I can...
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 29, 2010, 08:05:28 PM
Hell... I know how to stop LeBron in the open court. Doesn't mean I can...
"Hey, Lebron... Did Delonte adopt you yet?"
Lebron and his magical duo stop themselves, which is hilarious to me
I don't think the Giants or the Bears figured anything out. The receivers dropped 2 TDs against the Giants and 1 against the Bears. Plus the Eagles were 1 for 5 in the redzone against the Bears...you could give their defense credit, but instead I'll blame poor offensive execution.
that would teach his punk ass to not do pregame warm ups
Quote from: mussa on November 29, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
farg that article. Jackson is playing for a better contract and if he's holding back and down right scared to catch the ball, why would we want to re-sign him? Look if the kid has had 3 solid years in a row and is legit, resign him. He's yet to do that, has shown flashes of absolute greatness, but really he's been hit or miss all year long. That doesn't sit well in my stomach and I am sure its not a good sign for the FO as well.
CHARACTER ISSUES
I guess you missed last season?
Hey, the Eagles made TMQ!
QuoteSingle Worst Play of the Season -- So Far: The Eagles are talking return to the Super Bowl. On their opening possession at Chicago, facing third-and-8, Michael Vick danced in the pocket trying to buy time for a receiver to get open, and was sacked, setting the tone for what would become a loss. On the play, after their initial blocks, all five Philadelphia offensive linemen stood around doing nothing, not even attempting to help Vick, just watching him try to evade defensive linemen -- all four of them at that point unblocked.
TMQ notes that it's surprisingly common, during an NFL down, to find a player who is doing nothing at all, just standing there watching. On this down, all five offensive linemen did nothing. Philadelphia offensive line -- you are guilty of the single worst play of the 2010 season. So far.
What a bunch of lazy fatass dicks
And fat. Don't forget that they're all fat as shtein.
QuoteBy Zaki, PhillyGameday.com
Elusive Bears quarterback Jay Cutler slowly turned heads with his split-second decision to break into a comfortable, light jog to avoid an Eagles defender on Sunday.
"Against the Eagles, you have to have the ability to slowly move your feet if you're going to avoid a sack," said Bears head coach Lovie Smith. "Sometimes he would stand completely still out there and get nailed, but when he trots to the right, forget about it."
Several other Bears players were also able to avoid being tackled by Eagles defenders by either wearing shoes, maintaining consciousness or saying "look over there!"
Mussa's been dropping some whoppers lately. Becoming must read posts.
Celebrating is always good, though
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