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Title: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: DH on April 24, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
1 - DE Brandon Graham, Michigan
2 - FS Nate Allen, USF
3 - DE New TO, Washington
4 - CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
4 - LB Keenan Clayon, Oklahoma
4 - QB Mike Kafka, Northwestern
4 - TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State
5 - DE Ricky Sapp, Clemson
5 - WR Riley Cooper, Florida
6 - RB Charles Scott, LSU
7 - LB Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State
7 - DT Jeff Owens, Georgia
7 - S Kurt Coleman, Ohio State

I give it a B-/C+...The D is gonna be infused with all sorts of youth now, and im curious who starts on opening day. I like the pickups on offense - especially Cooper.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 24, 2010, 05:00:46 PM
B+. Liked it a lot.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 24, 2010, 05:01:45 PM
C. Not sure how you could assume that it's much better or worse than average, overall.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: QB Eagles on April 24, 2010, 05:05:03 PM
I like that they drafted so many players instead of trading the picks away. Can replace some of the losers who have stuck around from the last few drafts with younger losers who at least have a chance of becoming good.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 24, 2010, 05:05:11 PM
Overall a c-
1 - DE Brandon Graham, Michigan  B+(just think he would have gone after JPP and Morgan)
2 - FS Nate Allen, USF(A-: I really liked him at this spot)
3 - DE New TO, Washington(D-: Sorry DonHo, dude was a reach at the 3 spot, plus they farged up a million trade backs)
4 - CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky(B-: Guy was 1st round talent last year, had a bad year, injuries, and zesty 40speed)
4 - LB Keenan Clayon, Oklahoma(C-:  know nothing about the guy, but he reminds me of Quentin Caver)
4 - QB Mike Kafka, Northwestern(B + : Backup to Vick, he has the tools, and was annoying as farg to watch play against other teams, he's mobile and has a good arm. )
4 - TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State(B+ Mainly because he's getting mad love from every scout i've seen review him)
5 - DE Ricky Sapp, Clemson(A:  Great pick, may have knee issues and thats why he fell, but Good pick, and the new Joker)
5 - WR Riley Cooper, Florida(C- :  Not interested  in Gasperson again, but at FL)
6 - RB Charles Scott, LSU(B+  Really liked him at LSU, power runner, great value)
7 - LB Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State( C  I dont know shtein about this guy, or teh other two after, so they all get C's
7 - DT Jeff Owens, Georgia
7 - S Kurt Coleman, Ohio State
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:05:26 PM
brandon graham – solid pick who has a chance to get to the qb...but im looking for more than solid when you trade up in the first round...graham isnt horrible but there were much better directions to head in – C

nate allen – another solid pick...again i thought there were much better players in general and like players at allens position that could have been gotten later – B-

soweegian – if you like the guy i get it....but they had him on lock at the exclusion of way to many other players and as many times as they moved back to get him he still was going to last until saturday and possibly as late as the 6th round - D

trevard lindley – dont know anything about him but supposedly has second round talent and made a mistake coming back to college...potential is there to be a antoine winfield lock down corner type...me likes – B+

kennan clayton – not really sure where he fits...small and if youre gonna be small you better have REALLY good measureables and this guy doesn't - D

mike kafka – classic andy reid pick...i think this was uneccessary at this point but i will trust the big guy for now and its always nice to have a developmental guy as your third – C+

clay harbor – again a case of there being better players on the board...time will tell on this one but he has potential – C

ricky sapp – possible steal...to get a guy with this kind of explosiveness this late is great – A

riley cooper – fits perfectly as a fourth wr...should be a nice red zone piece for cobb – B-

charles scott – probably as good as you can do with an end of 6th round selection...the guy is not your typical big back in that he will make some people miss him if he gets thru the hole – B+

jamar chaney – really fast multi purpose linebacker  - B+

jeff owens – who knows – C+

kurt coleman – seems like could be a good gunner/all around special teams player - B


overall i give it a C+

the best picks were made at the bottom of the draft and those players are never guarantees...where it counted most i feel like they came up somewhat short
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
Solid B I really like what they have done on day 3.  Not sure about the kid from OU, but everyone else I like.  I don't know really anything about Clay Harbor other than what I have read, but at least he has good measurables.  

They seemed to add guys that all have a ton of potential....but have injury concerns.  

My favorite pick perhaps of their entire draft is Kafka.  I just really like the way the kid plays.  
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 05:07:04 PM
B- for now.  I'm not as giddy about the picks as ESPN is but they definitely addressed the defense.  There should be some OK UDFAs coming to camp too...
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 05:17:10 PM
C. I see nobody to get particularly excited about.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
C
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 24, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
I loved the first 2 picks pretty much as much as any one-two in the Reid era except maybe last year. I loved Maclin and McCoy. Berry was my #1 want, but that was totally unrealistic. I wanted Weatherspoon too, but after Sims was added, that was unrealistic as well. So after them it was Thomas, Morgan, Graham. They got one of the 3 I really wanted, and then ended up getting a top 3 safety in the draft. The two biggest needs going in were addressed in a major way. Loved it.

Te'o is still a head-scratcher, but I'll give him a shot and rip the pick and player if/when he sucks. Other than him, I liked most of the rest of the picks a lot. The only thing was I would have preferred more of a SAM linebacker instead of Clayton, but it seems the Eagles put a big emphasis on athletic guys that could cover TEs in this draft. Can't say I blame them. The Eagles lack of covering the TE has been well-known for years now.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
B

I know I am supposed to defend Teo but he would have been there today in the fourth.  I was as shocked as the rest of you.  From what I'm hearing he's a helluva hard worker, coaches love him, teammates loved him, brings his lunch pail to work, mellow off the field, psycho on.  With that said I am still very surprised.  Rumblings here on Thursday was teams were looking at him in the late second or somewhere in the third.

Happy with Graham and love Allen and his smarts.

If Sapp is healthy, watch out.

Charles Scott could be the steal of 2010 for the birds.


Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
I loved the first 2 picks pretty much as much as any one-two in the Reid era except maybe last year. I loved Maclin and McCoy.  The two biggest needs going in were addressed in a major way. Loved it.

Te'o is still a head-scratcher, but I'll give him a shot and rip the pick and player if/when he sucks. Other than him, I liked most of the rest of the picks a lot.

so you cant rip bad picks until they become bad players but you can love picks before they become good players?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 24, 2010, 05:05:11 PM
3 - DE New TO, Washington(D-: Sorry DonHo, dude was a reach at the 3 spot, plus they farged up a million trade backs)

So glad we went surfing last night after they made this pick.  After reading the posts late last night when I got home in response to this selection I was ready to book a one way ticket to the leper colony on Molokai to live out the rest of my days.  Actually I just booked a ticket for Hamels.

Tell your lady I just saw Sawyer from LOST at the coffee shop next to The Shack.  He is actually a very nice guy. 
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
From what I'm hearing he's a helluva hard worker, coaches love him, teammates loved him, brings his lunch pail to work

thats code for he isnt gonna make very many plays in the nfl
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 24, 2010, 05:41:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
I loved the first 2 picks pretty much as much as any one-two in the Reid era except maybe last year. I loved Maclin and McCoy.  The two biggest needs going in were addressed in a major way. Loved it.

Te'o is still a head-scratcher, but I'll give him a shot and rip the pick and player if/when he sucks. Other than him, I liked most of the rest of the picks a lot.

so you cant rip bad picks until they become bad players but you can love picks before they become good players?

The difference is I've never seen Te'o play hardly. I have seen Graham and Allen play. If I saw Te'o play and didn't like him then I'd say I dislike the pick. But I can't judge a guy I haven't seen. I've seen UW play maybe once or twice in 2009.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:41:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
From what I'm hearing he's a helluva hard worker, coaches love him, teammates loved him, brings his lunch pail to work

thats code for he isnt gonna make very many plays in the nfl

Exactly.  Jesus they say that same thing for 90% of the players.  To play DI football you'd better be a little psycho and hard working.

That blurb on Owens was classic:

Quote"Lazy, unmotivated, injury-stricken underachiever"
:-D
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SD on April 24, 2010, 05:43:21 PM
C

Favorite pick was the Nate Allen pick
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:41:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
I loved the first 2 picks pretty much as much as any one-two in the Reid era except maybe last year. I loved Maclin and McCoy.  The two biggest needs going in were addressed in a major way. Loved it.

Te'o is still a head-scratcher, but I'll give him a shot and rip the pick and player if/when he sucks. Other than him, I liked most of the rest of the picks a lot.

so you cant rip bad picks until they become bad players but you can love picks before they become good players?

The difference is I've never seen Te'o play hardly. I have seen Graham and Allen play. If I saw Te'o play and didn't like him then I'd say I dislike the pick. But I can't judge a guy I haven't seen. I've seen UW play maybe once or twice in 2009.

theres no chance youve seen allen play and i question whether youve ever heard of graham before the pick

i dont really care i just found it interesting how you currently "love every pick" and the one you didnt deserves time
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:47:59 PM
I wanted to change my grade to a B because the Eagles didn't draft Tim Tebow.  Is that okay with everyone?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:47:59 PM
I wanted to change my grade to a B because the Eagles didn't draft Tim Tebow.  Is that okay with everyone?

NO.

Luv,

The Anti Christ
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SD on April 24, 2010, 05:49:34 PM
sure...as long as you say a prayer first.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:50:34 PM
Dear God,

I thought you'd be bigger.

Love,

Rome
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 24, 2010, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:41:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
I loved the first 2 picks pretty much as much as any one-two in the Reid era except maybe last year. I loved Maclin and McCoy.  The two biggest needs going in were addressed in a major way. Loved it.

Te'o is still a head-scratcher, but I'll give him a shot and rip the pick and player if/when he sucks. Other than him, I liked most of the rest of the picks a lot.

so you cant rip bad picks until they become bad players but you can love picks before they become good players?

The difference is I've never seen Te'o play hardly. I have seen Graham and Allen play. If I saw Te'o play and didn't like him then I'd say I dislike the pick. But I can't judge a guy I haven't seen. I've seen UW play maybe once or twice in 2009.

theres no chance youve seen allen play and i question whether youve ever heard of graham before the pick

i dont really care i just found it interesting how you currently "love every pick" and the one you didnt deserves time

USF was on a lot over the past couple years and Michigan is big 10 so they are on all the time. Everyone has heard of them and seen them play that watches even a little bit of college football.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 24, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
I would like to change my grade to a D to balance out Rome's adjustment.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SD on April 24, 2010, 05:54:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:50:34 PM
Dear God,

I thought you'd be bigger.

Love,

Rome

God will get all the sleep he needs when he's dead
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 05:54:47 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 24, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
I would like to change my grade to a D to balance out Rome's adjustment.

I'm keeping mine a C to have no effect on the overall outcome. Just like the draft picks.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2010, 05:55:06 PM
Are we grading on a curve?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 05:55:37 PM
No, on a message board.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 05:54:47 PM
I'm keeping mine a C to have no effect on the overall outcome. Just like the draft picks.

haha - awful.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 06:02:03 PM
The only two major head scratchers to me are the Clayton and TO picks.  Other than that I can deal with everyone else.  In TO's defense he was a highly productive player against good competition, unlike Smith and Gocong. 
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 24, 2010, 06:07:51 PM
C+
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: reese125 on April 24, 2010, 08:03:12 PM
this was one of the more confusing draft for me in a long time. they addressed the needs of the defense all the way around, but came up short (literally) in a lot of picks

-Im not high on Sapp as everyone else mainly because he is best suited for a 3-4. they might of took the value pick, but i think it was the wrong guy for their system

-Daniel Teo-Nesheim made me angrier than any pick the eagles have made in a long time. although he blew his combine numbers out of the water, there were way too many better picks at multiple positions to choose from at this number in the draft.

-Trevar Lindley has injury plague written all over it. this dates all the way back in high school and continued through his college career. this only gets worse at the nfl level

-Liked the brian graham pick,  and think he will surprise a lot of the shocked fans that thought somebody else should of been taken here

-Jamar Chaney might of been the best guy the eagles took that actually fits the bill of a "true" SAM LB. fastest 40 time of all the LB at the combine and is considered one of best tacklers of the group

-I would of liked them to get a better hitter that can come up in the box and lay some punishment, just dont know if Nate Allen is that guy that will strike any fear in anyone. hopefully his cover skills will outweigh that

C is the grade
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SD on April 24, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
Has Prisco ever given the Eagles a bad draft grade?

QuotePhiladelphia Eagles

Best pick: Trading up in the first round to get Brandon Graham. He will be a 13-sack player in two years. I love the kid.

Questionable move: Trading Donovan McNabb for a second-round pick. But that's nitpicking.

Third-day gem: Fifth-round pick Ricky Sapp was a potential first-round selection until he tore up a knee two years ago. He moved to outside linebacker, but he is more of a down end.

Analysis: You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising.

Grade: A+
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 24, 2010, 08:14:49 PM
I agree with him.

A+

Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 24, 2010, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2010, 08:14:49 PM
I agree with him.

A+



I guess I'm going down to F-, then.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2010, 02:10:27 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2010, 08:14:49 PM
I agree with him.

A+




lololol

your best post ever romey
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 25, 2010, 04:02:31 AM
(http://www.stonerforums.com/lounge/attachments/bongs-pipes-bubblers/5062d1217944583-industrial-size-bong-8557060_f14bd4f251.jpg)

You tell'um Pete!
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: rjs246 on April 25, 2010, 07:41:59 AM
I'm just happy they drafted that lacrosse team in the fourth round.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 25, 2010, 08:53:31 AM
Kiper's draft grades are on insider.  Espn.com sucks.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Feva on April 25, 2010, 09:44:58 AM
I'll notify the dot com'ers...
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: shorebird on April 25, 2010, 09:52:36 AM

1 - DE Brandon Graham, Michigan-------Trading up for another speed guy, who can also play linebacker at 260 plus? I dunno. It'll be interesting to see what Earl Thomas does @ Seattle seeing how he was picked directly after.
2 - FS Nate Allen, USF----------------------A Big East football player? Wanted Mays here, but oh well. His issues might have scared Reid away.  
3 - DE New TO, Washington--------------I'm sick of hearing about busts that have a "high motor".
4 - CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky---------Sound like he could be a good player, but has a lot of work to do after getting injured and one has to wonder if he can stay healthy in the NFL.
4 - LB Keenan Clayon, Oklahoma--------How many 6'-1" 225 lb. linebackers are NFL pro bowlers? Safety?
4 - QB Mike Kafka, Northwestern--------Kolb's replacement. Ha!
4 - TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State-------I like this pick. Guys a hell of an athlete and Eagles need another tight end to compliment Celek.
5 - DE Ricky Sapp, Clemson---------------I like this one. Great ACC player, won the Brian Piccalo award last year. He's a good edge rusher and can blow plays up. Makes big plays in the backfield. imo, he's better than New To.
5 - WR Riley Cooper, Florida--------------Like, I swear, I like most of the later picks than the first ones. All around athlete who was a two sport star, playing outfield. Led Fl. in yards 961 and td's 9. Don't want to say he made Tebow look good, but he didn't hurt. Could be a great slot guy replacing Curtis and can work well as a big target in the red zone.
6 - RB Charles Scott, LSU-----------------This guy was a plow, but I get scared of rb's with shoulder injuries.
7 - LB Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State-Fast and somewhat big, least it seems Reid is trying.
7 - DT Jeff Owens, Georgia----------------Another injured guy.
7 - S Kurt Coleman, Ohio State-----------Don't know him

C+
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 25, 2010, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 25, 2010, 09:44:58 AM
I'll notify the dot com'ers...

I'm sure that they value your opinion.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2010, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: shorebird on April 25, 2010, 09:52:36 AM

1 - DE Brandon Graham, Michigan-------Trading up for another speed guy, who can also play linebacker at 260 plus? I dunno. It'll be interesting to see what Earl Thomas does @ Seattle seeing how he was picked directly after.
2 - FS Nate Allen, USF----------------------A Big East football player? Wanted Mays here, but oh well. His issues might have scared Reid away.  
3 - DE New TO, Washington--------------I'm sick of hearing about busts that have a "high motor".
4 - CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky---------Sound like he could be a good player, but has a lot of work to do after getting injured and one has to wonder if he can stay healthy in the NFL.
4 - LB Keenan Clayon, Oklahoma--------How many 6'-1" 225 lb. linebackers are NFL pro bowlers? Safety?
4 - QB Mike Kafka, Northwestern--------Kolb's replacement. Ha!
4 - TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State-------I like this pick. Guys a hell of an athlete and Eagles need another tight end to compliment Celek.
5 - DE Ricky Sapp, Clemson---------------I like this one. Great ACC player, won the Brian Piccalo award last year. He's a good edge rusher and can blow plays up. Makes big plays in the backfield. imo, he's better than New To.
5 - WR Riley Cooper, Florida--------------Like, I swear, I like most of the later picks than the first ones. All around athlete who was a two sport star, playing outfield. Led Fl. in yards 961 and td's 9. Don't want to say he made Tebow look good, but he didn't hurt. Could be a great slot guy replacing Curtis and can work well as a big target in the red zone.
6 - RB Charles Scott, LSU-----------------This guy was a plow, but I get scared of rb's with shoulder injuries.
7 - LB Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State-Fast and somewhat big, least it seems Reid is trying.
7 - DT Jeff Owens, Georgia----------------Another injured guy.
7 - S Kurt Coleman, Ohio State-----------Don't know him

C+

biting lip
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: shorebird on April 25, 2010, 10:45:04 AM
Let it out.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: mussa on April 25, 2010, 10:51:22 AM
I can't believe not one O-lineman was picked. What are they thinking?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 25, 2010, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 25, 2010, 08:53:31 AM
Kiper's draft grades are on insider.  Espn.com sucks.

Kiper gave them a B+
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 25, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
That post is worthless without the accompanying blurb.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2010, 12:37:14 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 25, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
That post is worthless without the accompanying blurb.

definitely

i wanna read how andy reid always gets it right
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 25, 2010, 01:03:09 PM
I thought Mel was the gawd.

Most notably, I am surprised that most pundits aren't completely murdering the third-round pick.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 25, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
me too, its only Eagles fans who are shocked by the pick apparently 
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SD on April 25, 2010, 01:20:51 PM
That's because we're emotionally invested in this team and know how these types of picks pan out (see Gocong, Bryan Smith etc.)
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 25, 2010, 01:47:21 PM
Philadelphia Eagles

Summary: The Eagles were positioned well to take advantage of a deep draft, and they did, piling up seven productive picks between the third and fifth rounds. But Philly started well too. In Brandon Graham they have a potential Rookie of the Year on defense. They filled a need at safety with Nate Allen, and I like Trevard Lindley in the fourth. He has second-round ability. Ricky Sapp may be a tweener, but getting a guy who can get to the quarterback like he can in the fifth round is good value. He could be a solid situational pass-rusher early in his career. Riley Cooper is quicker than many people think to go with above-average size.


Draft grade: B+

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?page=KiperDraftGrades
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 25, 2010, 03:27:20 PM
The press is clearly afraid of hurting TeO's feelings.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Don Ho on April 26, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 25, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
me too, its only Eagles fans who are shocked by the pick apparently 

No fan base is as shocked as the Jaguars, well all four of them anyway, about their first pick.  Tebow at 10 would have signified the end of the world as we know it.

Your bro and I discussed the draft in depth out surfing today.  People around us were wondering why we were swearing, slamming our hands against the water, crying, drowning, etc.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2010, 08:31:10 AM
I went out surfing for the first time in months yesterday and nearly drowned myself.  I was like an MS victim out there.  Christ - getting old & fat sucks.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 26, 2010, 08:37:53 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 26, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 25, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
me too, its only Eagles fans who are shocked by the pick apparently 

No fan base is as shocked as the Jaguars, well all four of them anyway, about their first pick.  Tebow at 10 would have signified the end of the world as we know it.

Your bro and I discussed the draft in depth out surfing today.  People around us were wondering why we were swearing, slamming our hands against the water, crying, drowning, etc.
i'm better with the draft today than i was draft day, i just have no clue why they spent a 3rd on Te'0
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: smeags on April 26, 2010, 08:48:13 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2010, 08:31:10 AM
I went out surfing for the first time in months yesterday and nearly drowned myself.  I was like an MS victim out there.  Christ - getting old & fat sucks.

getting ?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2010, 09:02:22 AM
shut up, you.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: smeags on April 26, 2010, 09:03:40 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2010, 09:02:22 AM
shut up, you.

:-D
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: rjs246 on April 26, 2010, 10:01:18 AM
QuoteGrade the 2010 Draft Class

So I don't know most of these players and won't bother rating each pick or the entire draft, but in reading about all of them being high character guys I have to say that I am not the least bit surprised. In fact I'm a little shocked that people here are surprised.

Just last week Quentin Mikell made a big to-do about acrimony in the locker room last season. Guys showing up with a me-first attitude and questioning the coaches. So what did we see happen? They purged a lot of the roster this offseason. Then they draft a bunch of high character guys and everyone acts like they can't believe it. If the coaches thought the lockerroom was a problem last year (and apparently they did if Mikell felt comfortable talking about it) AND considering some of the we're-not-rebuilding-but-we-actually-totally-are-rebuilding changes that have been made to the team, I think it follows that they would want to build the future with a young core of yessirs and nosirs. And I can't say that I fault them. It seems pretty consistent.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 26, 2010, 10:24:41 AM
I, for one, think that "reloading" sounds a lot hotter than "rebuilding."  C-.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: charlie on April 26, 2010, 10:30:40 AM
I know nothing about any of the players picked.

I grade the draft a B+
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: smeags on April 26, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
ray diddy said most of these picks did really well at the combine and were team captains.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: charlie on April 26, 2010, 11:03:51 AM
Based on that... I change my grade to an A-  :yay
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2010, 11:17:12 AM
I'm changing my A+ grade that was changed from an initial C grade to an A- based on Charlie's grade of A-.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: rjs246 on April 26, 2010, 11:20:29 AM
I'm adding you all to my List.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2010, 11:21:20 AM
Friends list?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2010, 11:22:27 AM
Blacklist?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2010, 11:23:08 AM
Errand list?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: rjs246 on April 26, 2010, 11:24:27 AM
You wish.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2010, 11:29:33 AM
close thread
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2010, 11:46:58 AM
racist
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: smeags on April 26, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2010, 11:29:33 AM
close thread

jehovah has spoken.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 26, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
Don't forget that in Hebrew, it's spelled with an "I".
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: smeags on April 26, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
Don't forget that in Hebrew, it's spelled with an "I".


so wait, igy is jewish ?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: shorebird on April 26, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Character guys don't win superbowls, great players do wether they have good character or not. The one time in my adult life the Eagles made the Superbowl they had one the lowest character guys in the NFL, and he was one of the best players on the team.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: smeags on April 26, 2010, 12:31:22 PM
reno mahe had no character ?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: rjs246 on April 26, 2010, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: shorebird on April 26, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Character guys don't win superbowls, great players do wether they have good character or not. The one time in my adult life the Eagles made the Superbowl they had one the lowest character guys in the NFL, and he was one of the best players on the team.

Just saying.

I actually agree with you, but if you're going through a rebuilding/reloading phase you need those character guys to build the foundation. I don't think the Eagles organization goal for 2010 is a superbowl. I think this is a reset season where they need to re-establish buy-in to the system and you don't do that with me-first players.

I don't think the fan base will like that too much, but it's been 5 or 6 years now where they have been tweaking and working around the margins to try and get over the hump and that team that they thought could do it with a few nips here and a tuck there is gone.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2010, 12:36:29 PM
arguably their best player doesnt buy into the system
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 26, 2010, 12:38:07 PM
Their best players are DeSean Jackson and Trent Cole.  Which one are you talking about?
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2010, 12:44:51 PM
samuel assante
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 26, 2010, 12:49:21 PM
Is he related to Armand?

In all seriousness, you can definitely see glimpses of why many NE fans were glad to see Samuel go.  He will let instinct take over and play outside the plan, but I'm pretty sure that any plan which includes giving him a specific assignment would make him feel that way.

As for Ellis Hobbs, all NE fans breathed a sigh of relief when the Eagles got him.  Pushing him as a possible starting cornerback is preposterous.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Perhaps the locker room could use a low character guy to hit Samuel with a brick every now and then.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
if bill belichek couldnt penetrate his dome i doubt riley cooper will
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2010, 01:08:10 PM
Granted, but at least it would be entertaining to see him all punch drunk trying to jump routes. And this season, hilarity is about all we can expect.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: hbionic on April 26, 2010, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 26, 2010, 01:08:10 PM
Granted, but at least it would be entertaining to see him all punch drunk trying to jump routes. And this season, hilarity is about all we can expect.

I'm going to add Dread, Angst, and Disgust to the expectation list.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Rome on April 26, 2010, 02:25:28 PM
I think we use the word "preposterous" entirely too much around here.
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2010, 02:43:52 PM
That's unfathomable!
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: charlie on April 26, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Thanks to that, my new grade is a B-

Keep it up...
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2010, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2010, 12:44:51 PM
samuel assante

He is gone in a year or two anyway. 
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Diomedes on April 26, 2010, 05:14:05 PM
dread
angst
disgust
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 26, 2010, 06:59:17 PM
PAT ANGERER
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 27, 2010, 12:20:40 PM
Tommy Lawlor (occasionally pops up here as "goeagles99") analyzes the draft (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=20998)
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SunMo on April 27, 2010, 12:22:35 PM
QuoteDefense, defense, defense. That was the theme of the Eagles draft.  We needed help on that side of the ball and the Eagles delivered.



OUT
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 27, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
He might actually get paid a few bucks by the Eagles now, so that could be semi-legit.  :sly
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SunMo on April 27, 2010, 12:25:15 PM
it's in the "Fan-Demonium" section...no "we" allowed
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
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I did some digging over the weekend and word in NFL circles is that several teams would have taken Graham or moved up for him.


lol

im sure gm's all over the league were counting the seconds till the draft ended so they could brainstorm with tommy lawlor about the goings on during draft weekend
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: MDS on April 27, 2010, 01:02:42 PM
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/UserFiles/Image/Tommy_-_hs_outside.jpg)
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: SD on April 27, 2010, 01:49:51 PM
he has nothing on Focker
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 27, 2010, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2010, 01:49:51 PM
he has nothing on Focker

Focker always has the inside scoop.


I found that revisiting the combine results proved somewhat interesting after the draft... (http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers)
Title: Re: Grade the 2010 Draft Class
Post by: reese125 on April 27, 2010, 02:32:23 PM
damn boy...chaney has some impressive movement there