i know we all are joking or maybe half joking throwing this notion out there
but im being 100% serious...is this a possibility...if not this could be the most curious draft ever
i mean they are literally a nose tackle away from running a 3-4
i still say long shot this happens but it has to be discussed seriously
No its not.
They don't have any linemen the correct size to play NT or end in a 3-4, do they?
too bad they traded Gocong
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 24, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
They don't have any linemen the correct size to play NT or end in a 3-4, do they?
IGY seems to think they have the ends already, but I'm stumped trying to figure out who they are.
they definitely have the ends
they do not have a fatty in the middle
With the addition of Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, anything is possible.
Quote from: mussa on April 24, 2010, 12:26:44 PM
With the addition of Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, anything is possible.
poty
No chance they could trade for one.
The whole league is going back to the 3-4, so I wouldn't put it past them.
Perhaps one option is to play the 3-4 on obvious passing downs to help the secondary?
Quote from: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 24, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
They don't have any linemen the correct size to play NT or end in a 3-4, do they?
IGY seems to think they have the ends already, but I'm stumped trying to figure out who they are.
killa and abiamiri def could
the soweegian is perfect there as well
If they were serious about it they would have drafted someone like Terrence Cody.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on April 24, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
The whole league is going back to the 3-4, so I wouldn't put it past them.
Perhaps one option is to play the 3-4 on obvious passing downs to help the secondary?
Perhaps they'll install it like they did the Wildcat and use it at completely random times to throw off the offense.
when Mcdermott took over there were talks that he was starting to implement 3-4 type passing schemes because of the moves he was making, but this was probably because he was confused as farg with the talent that was on the field
when you train from a guy like Jim Johnson all those years, you dont convert to something new, you stick to shtein you learned and have the potential to be good at
Cam Thomas could be the plug. He projects as a NT, doesn't he? What would they do with Cole? A rush OLB? Who are the MLBs? Bradley and who? I would think Bunkley could be a nice DE in a 3-4. They'd need another DE, and some more LB depth, especially up the middle.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 12:28:15 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 24, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
They don't have any linemen the correct size to play NT or end in a 3-4, do they?
IGY seems to think they have the ends already, but I'm stumped trying to figure out who they are.
killa and abiamiri def could
the soweegian is perfect there as well
Killa wouldn't cut it as a 3-4 end. I'd wager Cole struggles to stay above 260 during the season. I think they could get Bunk to play an end spot, he's got the speed and agility for it, although a bit heavier. He's right at 300. I wouldn't mind seeing Abiamiri and Te'o and a big space eater in the center of it. Behind that, you've Graham, Sapp, Bradley, Cole.....and....who else penciled in at LB? Jordan, fargu, and whatever else they have on the roster don't project to 34 backers.
This team could use a fat body in the middle regardless to help stuff the run.
No.
this would be to logical...no, they are going to continue to ram square pegs into round holes and not understand why they have to blitz 85% of the time to get pressure.
btw, andy already said last night that the Artist could line up at DT during passing situations, so you know that's what they are going to do, much like howard
it's this team's farging history
Jevon Kearse? all he can do is rush the passer, so lets make him stand up and drop into coverage...it's the joker!
Darren Howard? pass rushing end who is a little bit bigger? make him line up at DT and rush the passer against guards and centers.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
This team could use a fat body in the middle regardless to help stuff the run.
i agree...but as long as they run the jim johnson system its not gonna happen...wouldnt be difficult to switch though
as for the 3-4 - hypothetically of course
line
bunkley - NT ??? - soweegian - patterson if you wanna go bigger you can always acquire somebody to rotate
linebackers are all there...let them play it out in camp
They need a big body at DT, Bunkley and Patterson got straight up leveled last year against the Cowboys
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 12:39:19 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
This team could use a fat body in the middle regardless to help stuff the run.
i agree...but as long as they run the jim johnson system its not gonna happen...wouldnt be difficult to switch though
This is something that I don't understand at all, why not have a big guy in the middle for run downs. I guess they like getting gashed for 5-6 yards a pop and letting the other team control the clock.
The last pick settles this. There was a perfect NT waiting for them and they traded out with SD who picked him.
the thing is, they don't even let Bunkley or Patterson get behind the line, the scheme is to stay at the line and tie up the guards and center, so why not just grab a big fat ass to plug shtein up
Are there any more Samoan DTs available?
More 3-4 coming.... (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Birds_3-4_Thoughts_Other_Talk_Highlights.html#axzz0nlKAvZgf)
Quote*To me, McDermott's session was the most accessible and useful, maybe because he took a lot of questions. The prime information there was that McDermott acknowledged what we've all been speculating on -- as he tries to find ways to use all his new personnel, he is thinking of doing more with 3-4 looks. The Eagles' base defense will remain 4-3, but they've shown 3-4 here and there in the past, and that tendency very well might increase. The biggest obstacle would seem to be the lack of a true 3-4-style, monster nose tackle. McDermott said he thought Brodrick Bunkley could fill the bill, and he noted that Antonio Dixon is "320 and rising."
The Eagles also have some variations in which they employ five down linemen, and that might be something McDermott does more with, as well.
The Eagles have different sorts of nickel and dime packages, including one where a nickel back lines up almost as a linebacker. McDermott seems to see Marlin Jackson as a guy he wants to plug into that spot.
We talked a little about how important returning middle linebacker Stewart Bradley is to what McDermott is doing. He noted that not only is Bradley effective against the run, he is very tough to throw over, in the middle of the field.
McDermott confirmed that after those season-ending losses to the Cowboys, he was "seeing bubble screens in my sleep." He didn't give specifics, but obviously, a big focus of his offseason has been plotting to patch that hole.
btwn this and cobb how tingly is your bathing suit area about TC
i cant farging wait
actually that would have been the one semi important question for celek...its not public yet but he def knows when they are at lehigh this year...cough up the dates twighty (thats a really white guy who twitters a lot)
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2010, 06:37:10 PM
twighty (thats a really white guy who twitters a lot)
There are no words to describe the awfulness of this. I hope The Gap builds a store across the street from your house.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2010, 06:37:10 PM
cough up the dates twighty (thats a really white guy who tweets a lot)
Get it right, jackass.
im gonna use my cell phone to call my travel agent and book a flight to wherever you live and kick your azz
Empty threat, everybody knows you don't fly.
Or own a cell phone.
I'm no board pharmacist or anything, but I'm thinking that is exactly why he posted that. IGY takes a stab at irony/sarcasm. C-
The fact that he even recognizes the existence of irony and sarcasm earns him an A-.
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2010, 08:24:04 PM
The fact that he even recognizes the existence of irony and sarcasm earns him an A-.
And this is why our schools are horrible.