Currently: 5-4
Week 11: at Chicago
Week 12: vs Washington
Week 13: at Atlanta
Week 14: at New York
Week 15: vs San Francisco
Week 16: vs Denver
Week 17: at Dallas
I see them finishing out at 11-5/10-6
They aren't exactly lining up against world beaters. If they can somehow shake off the stupid and go into NY at 8-4, they will finish strong.
they'll beat washington and either san fran or denver.
9-7
Week 11: at Chicago - loss
Week 12: vs Washington - win
Week 13: at Atlanta - loss
Week 14: at New York - loss
Week 15: vs San Francisco - tie
Week 16: vs Denver - loss
Week 17: at Dallas - loss
Reid gets his extension. Brown doesn't. Neither does Jackson. Vick gets retained. Andrews retires. Westbrook gets released. Trotter crawls back under his rock, hopefully to die. Cheggie makes the roster yet again at the expense of a useful player.
lol @ phreak
7-9 or 9-7...meh, who knows. Could go either way on a few Sundays. And either way so what? They are an average to occasionally-slightly-better-than-average team.
And per the past few years, the only season redemption likely is kicking Dallas ass over the holidays. You know they will win that one. They win that one as regularly as they lose national night games.
(remember when this team was prime time money? Road money? shtein, with Satan now repping pimp, a labor deal that banner/FO will take some asinine "principled"stand on, and bingo; a talent exodus like 90-93 and an ensuing 7 year tailspin)
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
9-7
Quote from: JackStraw on November 17, 2009, 01:33:18 AM
(remember when this team was prime time money? Road money? shtein, with Satan now repping pimp, a labor deal that banner/FO will take some asinine "principled"stand on, and bingo; a talent exodus like 90-93 and an ensuing 7 year tailspin)
Awesome, so we can look forward to Morningwood taking over as head coach while McDermott goes on to coach the Titans competently but without a championship for the next fifteen years.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
They'll make the playoffs. Don't know what the record will be though.
they very well may make the playoffs...the nfc is just that bad....gf may end up being right that an 8-8 team might make it...
i knew the conference was putrid but i thought that would allow a couple teams to go on runs and the wild cards would both have double digit wins but that isnt looking so hot right now as the coneference might be worse than i even imagined
Week 11: at Chicago - L I believe the last time the Eagles beat the Bears on the road was when the Bears played at UofI in Champaign, IL
Week 12: vs Washington - W Very well could be a loss since the Skins lead the NFL in pass defense
Week 13: at Atlanta - W Ryan has been playing like ass and Turner still may be hurt for this game
Week 14: at New York - L Who farging knows
Week 15: vs San Francisco - W Only because it's not on the west coast
Week 16: vs Denver - W The Broncos have been exposed
Week 17: at Dallas - W Unbelievably, Reid and the Eagles are something like 14-7 against the Cowboys
I guess I'm predicting 10-6 which doesn't sound realistic.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
$25 they dont win 10 games
$25 they dont make the playoffs
lets do it son
Quote from: MDS on November 17, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
$25 they dont win 10 games
$25 they dont make the playoffs
lets do it son
Ha! You don't have $50. You even old enough to have a paper route?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
This team is certainly "capable" of a 6-1, 5-2 finish against that schedule. There are no world beaters at all there and I believe they're talented enough for that. Thing is, consistent inconsistency, bad coaching/playcalling and dumb penalties will likely weigh them down and prevent that from happening. I'll all but guarantee that we'll be saying this team couldve won 10 games if they had only beaten the farging Raiders.
there are 20 teams in the nfl capable of going 6-1 the rest the way and none of whom will....the eagles are one of these teams
the thing that people always do is look at the eagles schedule and say there are no great teams there without realizing the eagles are one of those teams that arent great and every team on the eagles schedule is looking at the birds as a win
hell the eagles couldnt even go 6-1 against the part of the schedule they had a legitimate shot to do so
Yeah, they didn't go 6-1 because of the things I mentioned. Not because they were straight up overmatched (other than the Saints game). Their talent level is on par with or better than just about everyone else they've played. are there weak players getting snaps that shouldn't be? Hell Yeah. But so does just about every other team in the league. Coaching/playcalling has snakebitten this team for years and you can't tell me that a better coach wouldn't have this tram in a better position. Oakland wouldn't have happened. Dallas probably wouldn't have happened.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 17, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
Yeah, they didn't go 6-1 because of the things I mentioned. Not because they were straight up overmatched (other than the Saints game). Their talent level is on par with or better than just about everyone else they've played.
oh i totally agree with all that but at the same time the eagles didnt overmatch the skins or raiders...the eagles arent significantly better than anyone left on their schedule and no team is significantly better than them...thats why something around .500 seems right...of course theres a plus or minus of two wins either way depending on all kinds of factors but to say 6-1 (or even 1-6) is crazy imo
Don't get it twisted, I don't think they're going 6-1. No chance in hell. But that's because I don't think they're going to all of a sudden fix the problems that have plagued them half the season/decade. I'm just saying that they could do it (and I would even be confident about them doing it) with better guidance from better coaching. I'm not even talking Cowher/Dungy/Belichick level coaching either. A Tomlin/Fisher/Coughlin...hell, even a John Fox would be better.
i dont know why but hearing john foxs name reminds me of the thing that andy did on sunday that makes me the most mad that has kind of gone unoticed...and that is not using shady on the goal line...
he is by far the best short yardage guy on the team...he hits holes really well and has great small space change of direction...two things imo that are more important than size down at the goaline...but because he cant blitz protect he doesnt get in there but eldra farging buckly does?....that just enrages me
I can honestly say the Eldra Buckley play made me laugh because I was already in "farg it" mode after that tired ass rollout to the TE play to the short end of the field. They've been running that play at the goalline for YEEEEARS!(Both Chad Lewis TD's in the '04 NFCCG) When that play failed Sunday, I knew Andy was out of ideas and was gonna pull some bullshtein on 3rd down.
I agree. You gotta get a guy like Shady the ball at some point In that situation because he's one of their playmakers. The Chargers were selling out up the gut so Shady at least gives you the opprtunity to bounce it outside and beat a guy to the pylon. It amazes me (well, actually it doesn't anymore) how Andy seems to refuse to get the ball to his best players at some of the most crucial times. He did it Sunday in SD with Shady, he did it last week against Dallas with Pimp on a 3rd and long...he's done it with Westbrook over the years.
If you're gonna get beat, you gotta get beat using your best players.
shady is a better btwn the tackles runner than an outside guy thats why id rather have him in there...especially when your line is getting pushed back he can shift and plunge like he does so well...weavy or buckley are running straight ahead with no plan b hole or no hole and whatever happens happens
but really the reason mccoy wasnt in makes me far more angry than him not being in in the first place
At this point I say flip a coin between 6-10 and 10-6. I'll say this also, has anyone entertained the thought of Vick starting at qb? How much worse could it get?
A lot worse - as inaccurate as McNabb is, Vick is even less accurate. Plus he doesn't look to have the same wheels anymore
Yeah, you're right, but now I'm grasping at straws. The only thing that would really make this team better and give me something to look foward too would be for Lurie to get his head outta' his ass and replace Reid. Make him GM, or just let him go home and take care of his family.
9-7, 10-6 if the Mayan gods are watching.
Quote from: MDS on November 17, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
$25 they dont win 10 games
$25 they dont make the playoffs
lets do it son
Ah why the hell not.
Bet.
Being a Shady fan, I want him to do well. But he dances a tad bit too much for my liking. I don't know if that has to do with him being a rookie and being unsure of cut back lanes and whatnot, but he seems to want to bounce it outside too much. And although he hasn't coughed it up yet - I can't shake the feeling that until he changes the way he slings that ball out there, someone's gonna pop it loose.
And at the worst time imaginable.
he might dance a little to much because every time he gets the ball theres three defensive lineman in the backfield
The defensive tackles all but ensure a 7-0 finish.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:16:32 PM
he might dance a little to much because every time he gets the ball theres three defensive lineman in the backfield
Could be. On the one run late in the 4th Sunday if he cuts back or just goes ahead, he picks up the first but he bounced it.
For such a big OL, they sure do get blown back a lot.
Backpeddling 50 out of 60 times tends to cause that to happen.
Negative. When you know its a run, you get off the ball and kill someone.
how do you know when the eagles call a run play?
when you see this in the sky above you...
(http://www.illusionsgallery.com/Four-Horsemen-Mikh-L.jpg)
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 17, 2009, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 17, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
$25 they dont win 10 games
$25 they dont make the playoffs
lets do it son
Ha! You don't have $50. You even old enough to have a paper route?
well i dont really have 50 but this is a free 50.
also any open jobs at espn? put in a good word for me buddy.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 17, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
$25 they dont win 10 games
$25 they dont make the playoffs
lets do it son
Ah why the hell not.
Bet.
YES
this covers me zesty fantasy team
Quote from: MDS on November 17, 2009, 08:20:53 PM
also any open jobs at espn? put in a good word for me buddy.
I don't think ESPN needs spam writers.
i didnt actually get to write for them. failed spam trainee is more accurate.
Week 11: at Chicago-------------Win
Week 12: vs Washington--------Win
Week 13: at Atlanta---------------Win
Week 14: at New York------------Loss
Week 15: vs San Francisco------Win
Week 16: vs Denver---------------Win
Week 17: at Dallas-----------------Loss
10-6 Final Record
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 07:29:50 PM
Negative. When you know its a run, you get off the ball and kill someone.
When your not asked to do it often you aren't going to do it as well.
During the week, do the Eagles even practice running plays? That's a serious question - I've never seen one of their practices
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 18, 2009, 10:12:24 AM
When your not asked to do it often you aren't going to do it as well.
I tell my wife this regularly
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 18, 2009, 12:39:30 PM
During the week, do the Eagles even practice running plays? That's a serious question - I've never seen one of their practices
i dunno about their practices but i'm certain that reid draws his weekly game plan from the madden 2010 playbook.
Week 11: at Chicago L
Week 12: vs Washington W
Week 13: at Atlanta L
Week 14: at New York L
Week 15: vs San Francisco W
Week 16: vs Denver W
Week 17: at Dallas L
8-8. No playoffs.
Week 11: at Chicago WIN
Week 12: vs Washington WIN
Week 13: at Atlanta LOSE
Week 14: at New York WIN
Week 15: vs San Francisco WIN
Week 16: vs Denver WIN
Week 17: at Dallas LOSE
Final, 10-6.
Week 11: at Chicago WIN
Week 12: vs Washington WIN
Week 13: at Atlanta WIN
Week 14: at New York LOSE
Week 15: vs San Francisco WIN
Week 16: vs Denver LOSE
Week 17: at Dallas WIN
10-6
same bet is open to you idiotface
though i highly, highly doubt youll pay
so no, unless you put your trailer on layaway, why even bother
What's the bet?
25 they dont win 10
25 they dont make playoffs
its ON with phreak but he actually isnt poor white trash so i can assume hell pay.
Don't you call him a white trash hick all the time? You're so busy sucking on IGYs grundle you're forgetting to think for yourself sweetcheeks.
I'll decline simply because in all likely hood it's gonna be a push. They're more likely to win only 9 games and make the playoffs then they are to actually win 10.
Quote from: MDS on November 19, 2009, 05:14:52 PM
25 they dont win 10
25 they dont make playoffs
its ON with phreak but he actually isnt poor white trash so i can assume hell pay.
phreak is betting with his heart and not his head, but hey, no one can really be sure what this team will do.
Week 11: at Chicago WIN
Week 12: vs Washington WIN
Week 13: at Atlanta LOSE
Week 14: at New York LOSE
Week 15: vs San Francisco WIN
Week 16: vs Denver WIN
Week 17: at Dallas WIN
10-6
As I said in a previous thread:
9-7 or 10-6, playoff birth guaranteeing Fatty an extension, first round exit, mediocre draft position.
Eagles Football! :boom
Quote from: NC_Eagle on November 19, 2009, 06:13:10 PM
As I said in a previous thread:
9-7 or 10-6, playoff birth guaranteeing Fatty an extension, first round exit, mediocre draft position.
Eagles Football! :boom
i'm really not all that concerned with draft position this year. they really do seem to be set at the skill positions on offense so they don't need draft anyone there. if anything, kolb showed enough to warrant the eagles not taking another qb before the 5th round.
corners are set for now. d-line is pretty solid as is also. lb and o-line imo, are the 2 priorities for the early part of the draft and i'm pretty sure they can get what they need with the 20th-ish pick since that's probably where they'll be.
as annoying as the present is, the future looks quite promising for this team. too bad reid will still be around to farg it all up.
I might get pretty mad if they don't draft an offensive lineman on the first day.
you have to leave the o line alone in general but certainly you dont spend a first rounder on it...you just gotta hope they get healthy and gel...you invested a ton of money into it and its young...you gotta ride or die with it
by far their biggest need is an end to go opposite killa...greg hardy has massive potential and its way to early to tell where he will land but i love him
linebackers are a complete joke
they need a safety bad
a starting wr over 6 foot is a significant need
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 19, 2009, 07:44:33 PM
you have to leave the o line alone in general but certainly you dont spend a first rounder on it...you just gotta hope they get healthy and gel...you invested a ton of money into it and its young...you gotta ride or die with it
by far their biggest need is an end to go opposite killer...greg hardy has massive potential and its way to early to tell where he will land but i love him
linebackers are a complete joke
they need a safety bad
a starting wr over 6 foot is a significant need
Yeah, maybe year 2 will be the year they get the O-line they all envisioned.
I generally agree with this... since a DE opposite Killa is at the top of my wish list too...but:
When you look at the starting LB's next year, I like Witherspoon and Bradley at WIL and MIKE. They could drop/replace Gocong and I wouldn't blink an eye, but those 3 wouldn't be that bad at the top.
Completely agree there. Who knows if Taylor Mays will be there when they pick... he could be there with USC's down year on D. If he's on the board and the Eagles pass him up, I'll throw my chair/barstool/couch.
While I agree with the WR... what's the point? With Pimp, Mack and Avant, etc... Andy won't think about WR until the 6th or 7th and he doesn't use any plays/passes to take advantage of a WR with size, anyway.
reid clearly favors speed over size at the wr spot. if he really wanted size there, then he should have kept baskett and released cheggie brown. i know banner would never let that happen because of brown's cap hit, but if it made more football sense, then that's what they should have done.
de opposite of killa would be nice but lb is probably a bigger need. i also don't know if you can count on shawn andrews at all next year. it'd be nice to and if he comes back healthy and ready to play, then the o-line is of much less concern. but as it stands right now and i'm sure there won't be much change come draft day, andrews spot on the line needs to be taken into serious consideration because you won't know anything definitive about him until he actually takes the field.
i agree with witherspoon and a healthy bradley the linebackers go from awful to just plain bad...but witherspoon is being overrated because hes so much better than gaither...and bradley is a ? coming off a serious injury...
so that leaves crap gocong witherspoon at a position that is almost as unkind to guys in their 30's as the rb position and a guy coming off an exploded knee...without all these variables and with these three at the top of their games the lb's are still only about average...if the opportunity presents itself to draft a good young linebacker in the first round i have no problem doing it
ive come off taylor mays after watching him this year...i highly question whether he can move well enough to play safety at the pro level...his speed is adequete but his hips are suspect as shtein at that position...he really struggles in physically reacting to receivers as well as the ball...i like the idea of him putting on 20-25 pounds and being a sick ass play making linebacker pass rusher hybrid
as for the wr im not saying what andy will do im saying what i would look for in improving the team...while i like mack and believe he can be a productive wr i dont see anything overly special in him but even if im wrong in that his best spot in this league is the Z...if they could get a split end with some size to flank pimp they really would have the makings of something special
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 19, 2009, 08:40:09 PM
reid clearly favors speed over size at the wr spot. if he really wanted size there, then he should have kept baskett and released cheggie brown.
hank baskett sucked...and im not looking for someone with his size im looking for a guy that is taller than 6-0 and has some strength...i also dont think andy necessarily favors small wr's...hes never shown that in 11 years here...i think they currently sit where they are purely because of happenstance....pimp and maclin both fell to spots in the draft where they couldnt pass them up...i dont think andy was seeking out small wr's
Witherspoon is a good linebacker. Bradley is a good linebacker (albeit coming off an injury). That's two out of three that are good players. Get a third good linebacker, move Gocong back where he belongs as a situational pass-rushing DE and your defensive front seven is at least solid.
And I agree about a free safety being a pretty significant priority. Like second-round priority or free agent if one comes loose.
witherspoon was good
now hes just fine
who knows what he will be in his thirties
westbrook was also "good" last year
look at the history...linebackers especially speed linebackers when they fall off they fall off fast and hard
bradley is definitely good...with two knees
if he comes back next year with 1.5 knees who knows...or what if he gets hurt again...tho the fact that hes a mlb makes me feel a lot better about the injury
I'll say this team, with the way they are currently playing and their injuries playing a role, will probably end up 9-7. I'm not sure which games will be the wins and which ones the losses but I can't imagine any better than that right now. I think they'll probably be in every game down the stretch but poor clock management, inability to sustain drives, and the inability of the defense to make key 3rd down stops late in games will continue to be the formula for them losing in a frustrating manner.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 16, 2009, 10:59:52 PM
Currently: 5-4
Week 11: at Chicago
Week 12: vs Washington
Week 13: at Atlanta
Week 14: at New York
Week 15: vs San Francisco
Week 16: vs Denver
Week 17: at Dallas
I see them finishing out at 11-5/10-6
They aren't exactly lining up against world beaters. If they can somehow shake off the stupid and go into NY at 8-4, they will finish strong.
OK, I only got back in town, so they're 6-4.
Beat Washington.
Lose Atlanta (which sucks, cause I'll be there).
Lose New York.
Beat San Francisco.
Beat Denver.
Beat Dallas.
10-6, win division, who cares, NO and Min are still way better. Saves Reid's job, again. Ruins the franchise forever. Go Birds.
Quote from: MMH on November 22, 2009, 11:49:33 PM
10-6, win division, who cares, NO and Min are still way better. Saves Reid's job, again. Ruins the franchise forever. Go Birds.
:-D :-D :-D :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: MDS on November 17, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 AM
youre something else j...11 wins?....you know that means 6-1 to finish?
its hopeless to even predict individual games with this team they are so up and down...lose to the raides beat the giants by 23...what that means to me is at or close to a .500 team...which is what they finish up with...either 4-3 or 3-4 to end at 9-7 8-8
More hope than anything else. Gotta hold onto something.
$25 they dont win 10 games
$25 they dont make the playoffs
lets do it son
Cha-ching.
lol well done kiddo
double or nothing? you name it.
Nah, I did that last year with IGY and while I almost got a nice chunk had they won the NFCCG, I lost.
You can send me a box of pennies, some two dollar bills or whichever currency you see fit.
i hope you have enough room in the pantry for 50 bucks worth of bagels.
pm your addy. ill send a check and a vulgar note, thats my norm.
I'm looking forward to your letter, Todd.
if the taterskins are the offseason champs does that makes the eagles the december champs?
Chargers got them beat on that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 22, 2009, 08:31:17 AM
if the taterskins are the offseason champs does that makes the eagles the december champs?
Actually, I think they are 3rd behind the Colts and Pats for Dec wins over the last 10 years, which makes them the December bronze standard.
december wins in the aughts
new england - 34
eagles - 31
indy - 29
sd - 25
they're still the aluminum alloy standard of October
superbowls
ne - 3
phi - 0
eagles win december.
i think it was during the 9ers game, they showed that during nov/dec over the last 10 years that it's ne, indy, philly, pitt with the most wins. they were even nice enough to point out that the eagles were the only one of the group without a super bowl. at least in igy's group they have some company with san diego.
Chargers have won 16 straight December games, they win the month in my book.
It would be nice if the Eagles got one win in February.
Ever.
What - you don't count Reid winning the Pro Bowl as a win?
I'd consider you not wearing Eagles jerseys to sites on the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World a win.
Ya face? Not a win.
Your face and my ass? A perfect match.
Burn!
Quote from: MDS on December 22, 2009, 12:20:27 AM
pm your addy. ill send a check and a vulgar note, thats my norm.
Todd's a man of his word. And I even got some bonus material on the vulgar note. No, not any shtein or other body fluids smeared on it - a nice piece of artwork showing me, McNabb, Reid and Banner engaging in a foursome.
Sweet!
Thanks, buddy. :yay
usually its the jews that are supposed to take the money, not give it
I imagine that image just being 4 stick figures with names and arrows pointed at each person....I like it.
Pretty much how it was :-D