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Title: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2009, 01:34:53 PM
According to Brain Seltzer of 950 ESPN

QuoteQuintin Demps no longer starting FS. Looks like job has fallen to Macho Harris.
4 minutes ago from txt

Interesting.

Did Quintin's mouth cost him his job?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: bowzer on September 07, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
Demps and Jones were beaten out by a rookie?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 01:44:02 PM
so hows that whole dawk thing working out
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: MDS on September 07, 2009, 01:46:25 PM
banner saved his 7 mil. whats so hard to understand about that.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: bowzer on September 07, 2009, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 07, 2009, 01:46:25 PM
banner saved his 7 mil. whats so hard to understand about that.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1m6iq_southparkjewgold_fun
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on September 07, 2009, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: bowzer on September 07, 2009, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 07, 2009, 01:46:25 PM
banner saved his 7 mil. whats so hard to understand about that.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=south%20park%20jew%20gold&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv# (http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=south%20park%20jew%20gold&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#)
right up there with SD for worst Links ever
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 07, 2009, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 01:44:02 PM
so hows that whole dawk thing working out

I farging hate them.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 07, 2009, 02:43:36 PM
hello!  the guy's name is macho which means that not only is it a virtual lock for him to make the hof, but it's also going to give us no less than at least 3 awesome macho jokes during each telecast.  how can this possibly be a bad thing?  do you people have no vision?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Rome on September 07, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
Macho Harris will be a Pro Bowl starter by year 3.  Book it.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 07, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 07, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
Macho Harris will be a Pro Bowl starter in New England by year 3.  Book it.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Diomedes on September 07, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
I suppose the crowd will sing "macho macho ma-an"
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: General_Failure on September 07, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
Hey, New England will miss that fifth rounder they'll give up for him.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Magical_Retard on September 07, 2009, 05:20:37 PM
This team is such a joke.

I guess FS this year will be like the punt returner situation from 2 yrs ago or the FB joke from last yr.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Feva on September 07, 2009, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 01:44:02 PM
so hows that whole dawk thing working out

Gotta love letting a HOF caliber safety walk only to replace him with a 5th round pick.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on September 07, 2009, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 07, 2009, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 01:44:02 PM
so hows that whole dawk thing working out

Gotta love letting a HOF caliber safety walk only to replace him with a 5th round pick.
(http://www.diyhvacrepair.com/images/goldstandard.gif)
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Mad-Lad on September 07, 2009, 06:16:19 PM
After watching Demps and his Downy soft tackling during the preseason, I'm not surprised.

Was Jones ever an option at FS?  I thought he was strictly a SS.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: The BIGSTUD on September 07, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Anyone willing to at least wait and see how he plays, and Dawk does for that matter before killing this move? If it turns out bad, kill it then.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Rome on September 07, 2009, 06:38:03 PM
The Eagles definitely should have signed Dawkins no matter how awful he looked against the pass last year.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: mussa on September 07, 2009, 06:54:25 PM
Demps sucks. Not surprised at all by this move.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: King Cole on September 07, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Anyone willing to at least wait and see how he plays, and Dawk does for that matter before killing this move?

this isnt a "move"....this just happened because their is no one better on the roster to play the position....you think macho harris was some sort of master plan...
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: The BIGSTUD on September 07, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
No I don't. Regardless of how you want to label it, the question still remains the same. Can't you give it a shot to see how it works before burying Harris at safety?

If he sucks, then ok. What if he turns out to be a stud?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Feva on September 07, 2009, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: King Cole on September 07, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
No I don't. Regardless of how you want to label it, the question still remains the same. Can't you give it a shot to see how it works before burying Harris at safety?

If he sucks, then ok. What if he turns out to be a stud?

Point is, the Eagles should have waited to see if they had ANYONE else capable of playing the position before they decided to throw Dawk to the scrap heap.

It's like quitting a job before you've got another one.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: QB Eagles on September 07, 2009, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 07, 2009, 07:56:32 PMPoint is, the Eagles should have waited to see if they had ANYONE else capable of playing the position before they decided to throw Dawk to the scrap heap.

It's like quitting a job before you've got another one.

I don't agree with that. Six months is a long enough period of time to find and sign a player capable of starting in the NFL, at any position. And for all we know, they have.

If they failed at doing that, the problem wasn't necessarily getting rid of Dawkins, it was doing a zesty job of trying to get someone to replace him.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
even if they had dawks replacement which they didnt....they should have signed him and let him tutor the young guys while sharing time with them if he couldnt perform full time

you cant put a price on that especially a few million bucks...the bottom line remains the same there is not a single reason he shouldnt be on the team right now...macho harris just makes it look even worse
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Magical_Retard on September 07, 2009, 08:45:02 PM
Letting of Dawkins cause they think he lost it is one thing. To automatically promote a rookie who barely saw the field outside of special teams simply because the philosophy dictates they start him is what pisses me off. They did not even try to find someone better in the off-season (a player from the Browns does not count) and simply assumed Demps must be ready since he was selected by them. See also Gocong and countless others.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: bowzer on September 07, 2009, 08:46:42 PM
Thank God they saved that seven million.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 08:53:27 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 07, 2009, 08:45:02 PM
must be ready since he was selected by them

this cannot be understated



altho unless i forgot about one and someone correct me if im wrong but i believe this year in the first in forever where an UFA did not make the eagles 53 man

Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: BobbyT on September 07, 2009, 09:00:30 PM
Did Macho win the job or the other 2 suckers lose it?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2009, 09:05:40 PM
im quite certain a 5th round rookie cb didnt win the free safety position

it wouldnt surprise me if macho had the least snaps of the four sunday
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 07, 2009, 10:07:40 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 07, 2009, 06:38:03 PM
The Eagles definitely should have signed Dawkins no matter how awful he looked against the pass last year.

this.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2009, 10:09:25 PM
Macho has shown some flashes...but he should be playing STs and in certain packages with Dawk still starting.

Quintin Demps assumed the job was his, and that was the worst thing he could have done. Especially since he wasn't all that great last year.

Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2009, 10:27:28 PM
QuoteAlso, Demps indicated the kick return job won't be his as well. Responsibility appears to have fallen to Ellis Hobbs.
6 minutes ago from web

Keep it shut, Demps.

Your mouth lost everything for you.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on September 07, 2009, 10:33:13 PM
I honestly don't remember seeing Macho show a flash the whole preseason. Then again, I haven't seen him get burned, either. So if he's another solid but unspectacular defensive player, he'll fit right in.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2009, 10:35:35 PM
He showed a few things...one thing that stuck out to me was his STs play, but that probably wn't matter now.

Anyways, Demps seems to have put a sock in it...

QuoteQuintin Demps entered this year's training camp as the starting free safety. He remained in that spot for all four preseason games. However, when the Eagles open the 2009 regular season at the Carolina Panthers this Sunday, it will be Macho Harris who lines up alongside Quintin Mikell at the free safety position.

Demps told reporters following Monday's 10-10-10 practice that it was Harris who took the first-team reps.

"We're all men. We all could tell that I wasn't being consistent enough," Demps said. "There's no sugarcoating it in the NFL. It is what it is.

"We're still competing. It's still a competition. I just have to go in there and compete everyday. Keep it moving."

In fact, Demps will not be the lead kickoff returner either. Instead, Ellis Hobbs will take over that role.

Demps had the benefit of transitioning into the safety role behind two All-Pros in Mikell and Brian Dawkins. By the end of the season, Demps was integrated into the defense in three-safety sets to bolster the run defense. Harris, a fifth-round pick out of Virginia Tech, will not have that luxury. However, Demps is confident in his teammate.

"I don't think it will be too difficult. He's a competitor. He's got guys around him that are going to help him out a lot, be there for him and guide him through," Demps said.

As a rookie in 2008, Demps had nine tackles and a sack. His biggest impact was as a kickoff returner where he averaged 25.3 yards per return and had one touchdown - a 100-yard score against the Ravens. Demps admitted that by entering training camp and the preseason as the starter changed his mindset and opened the door for Harris.

"He just had that hunger. When you first come in, like I came in last year, you come in with nothing to lose. In my second year, I felt like I had a lot to lose," Demps said. "I was playing not to lose instead of to win. He came in with nothing to lose. That's how you have to be."

Even with the late change, Demps has faith that the secondary will flourish like it did last year when the Eagles ranked third in the NFL against the pass.

"We're good, on our way to being great," Demps said.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: QB Eagles on September 07, 2009, 10:38:36 PM
Hobbs is a great return guy and there shouldn't have been any question about him getting that role, especially seeing as how he's not a starting corner. Only reason to see Demps is for an occasional changeup or if Hobbs gets promoted to starter for some reason.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 08, 2009, 02:53:04 AM
harris is starting because of a little know rule in the nfl rule book that states that no nfl team can ever start 2 players named quintin in the same defensive backfield. 
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 08, 2009, 02:55:15 AM
Is DJack going to be returning the punts? I'm sure he'll be getting a lot more action on offense this year, don't want him to get warn down. But no one else really proved they could do it in the preseason.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on September 08, 2009, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 02:55:15 AM
get warn down
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 08, 2009, 09:26:25 AM
ha....wow
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Magical_Retard on September 08, 2009, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 02:55:15 AM
Is DJack going to be returning the punts? I'm sure he'll be getting a lot more action on offense this year, don't want him to get warn down. But no one else really proved they could do it in the preseason.

Greg Lewis was cut by the Pats...I am sure if need be they can bring him in to return punts.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 08, 2009, 04:40:52 PM
God forbid, a typo at 3 in the morning ::)
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 08, 2009, 04:45:23 PM
wirn would have been a typo
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 08, 2009, 04:46:52 PM
You of all people should not be talking about incorrect spelling and grammar.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 08, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
are you really arguing youre not a stump?

im hardly einstein but damn you make me feel intelligent as a motherfarger
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 08, 2009, 06:41:57 PM
I'm saying I'm smarter now then you ever were or ever could be.


Spelling mistakes on a MB not withstanding, which you won't be winning an award for any time soon, and should probably never ever laugh when someone else makes one.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Displaced on September 08, 2009, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
are you really arguing youre not a stump?

im hardly einstein but damn you make me feel intelligent as a motherfarger
Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 06:41:57 PM
I'm saying I'm smarter now then you ever were or ever could be.


Spelling mistakes on a MB not withstanding, which you won't be winning an award for any time soon, and should probably never ever laugh when someone else makes one.

The natural,  inevitable and inescapable conclusion to every... single CF thread. 
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 08, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Well if IGY and his jew slave could hop off my nuts even when I'm not around and living life outside the internet, we could get back to arguing why the Eagles will be 9-7 and not 10-6.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Dillen on September 08, 2009, 11:50:29 PM
Couldn't be more wrong. 9-6-1 at best.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 08, 2009, 11:51:20 PM
You can't tie a game in the NFL.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2009, 02:52:33 AM
Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Well if IGY and his jew slave could hop off my nuts even when I'm not around and living life outside the internet, we could get back to arguing why the Eagles will be 9-7 and not 10-6.

Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 04:40:52 PM
God forbid, a typo at 3 in the morning ::)

Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Munson on September 09, 2009, 02:55:07 AM
Would you like me to be out and about at 3 AM on a monday night?

I can't sleep, and there aint shtein to do at 3 AM on a monday night....yay internet.

PS-Off the nuts please. Wanna PM me and whine about your family again?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 09, 2009, 08:26:48 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2009, 02:52:33 AM
Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Well if IGY and his jew slave could hop off my nuts even when I'm not around and living life outside the internet, we could get back to arguing why the Eagles will be 9-7 and not 10-6.

Quote from: Munson on September 08, 2009, 04:40:52 PM
God forbid, a typo at 3 in the morning ::)


ahaha

munson really has to be an in bred half wit....he just has to

i wonder if he even thinks about why everyone hes ever come across clowns him to no end...
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2009, 11:55:25 PM
Good first game today, everyone agree?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 14, 2009, 12:02:45 AM
i didnt think so...made some horrible tackle attempts..but overall was pretty much invisible...which for a rookie corner playing safety isnt a horrible thing i guess
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: BigEd76 on September 14, 2009, 12:09:53 AM
he was mentioned less than Justice and Peters.  win
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: rjs246 on September 14, 2009, 12:13:09 AM
Peters was a good investment.

2 mil per false start this year. Over or under?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: General_Failure on September 14, 2009, 12:40:13 AM
Under?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: LBIggle on September 14, 2009, 01:01:30 AM
they didn't really attack him as much as i thought they would.  hard to tell what his deal is yet.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: rjs246 on September 14, 2009, 01:04:31 AM
Being attacked with a wet noodle isn't so intimidating.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: LBIggle on September 14, 2009, 01:15:01 AM
wasn't that opening TD his containment?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: MDS on September 14, 2009, 01:42:30 AM
im pretty sure it was mikell who over-perused williams when 10 other guys could have made the tackle
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Feva on September 14, 2009, 09:32:13 AM
Well, what do you expect? Without Demps out there, he was working at only 50% Q-Rate.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 14, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
the announcers called out mikell for that williams loss of contain but imo it was more on killa
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on September 14, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
the announcers called out mikell for that williams loss of contain but imo it was more on killa
and Gocong taking a horrible angle.  Gocong didnt expect williams to take the corner that quick.  Gocong did have a very solid game after that. 
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: rjs246 on September 14, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
Stop saying Gocong.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on September 14, 2009, 10:30:55 AM
Vietcong
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: rjs246 on September 14, 2009, 10:32:50 AM
Better.
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 14, 2009, 10:33:01 AM
solid game for gocong = stay the farg out fo the way and dont mess up...i think he had one tackle yesteday and no major farg ups...ill take that everytime till they upgrade his position in 2015
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 10:34:34 AM
His one tackle was a goal line 4th and 1, no?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 10:35:05 AM
and a pass defended too, I think?
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on September 14, 2009, 10:36:05 AM
yeah, if he had grabbed that pass at the 5yd line instead of batting it down, IGY might have a bit more love. 

Back to Macho, love the dooo
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 14, 2009, 10:40:01 AM
actually if i didnt have to watch thomas davis and jon beason all day i would have been better with it
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on September 14, 2009, 10:54:39 AM
Thomas Davis took forever to become what he is now.  But he's damn good.  Beason didnt do shtein the entire first two quarters, and looked good against Kolb = wash
Title: Re: Macho Harris - Starting FS
Post by: ice grillin you on September 14, 2009, 11:01:52 AM
beason was playing on one knee and was still better than any eagle linebacker

and thomas davis has been good for a while now

other than that right on