Decent pick. He is a good player and makes a lot of tackles.
We're half way to building an all Notre-Dame front four.
He looks like his Amish father raped his black mother.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/trevor-laws?id=772
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2008, 08:03:03 PM
He looks like his Amish father raped his black mother.
:-D :-D :-D
I'm happy enough with this guy too.
Decent draft so far.
Laws:
Quote"I looked at their roster a little bit, but I see there is a position for me to contribute. There is an opportunity for me to get in there and compete with some guys. It's a pretty good place for me."
Andy:
Quote"Trevor is a high-energy player. He gives us a nice guy to work in with the two first-round picks who have been starting for us. He upgrades that defensive line. He had a tremendous year this year and last year and a great Senior Bowl."
i love the 70's.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 26, 2008, 09:51:50 PM
Laws:
Quote"I looked at their roster a little bit, but I see there is a position for me to contribute. There is an opportunity for me to get in there and compete with some guys. It's a pretty good place for me."
Sounds like he already buys into the Eagles philosophy.
:-D
i always thought it would be nice to compete in a physical sense with a cripple.
Quote
What reality TV show would you like to be on and why?
UFC -- Ultimate Fighter, because I'd win it.
sold
I still can't get over the fact that he's made so many tackles. Usually the interior lineman don't make that many tackles because they plug holes and eat blockers up. It tells me he's an active player inside that can get some TFLs and maybe control the run a bit.
I did not see much of ND this past year, but I like what I read about him and that tackle stat is one that I can't ignore. I was talking to my boy on Friday night about the draft and we were talking about how Kentwan Balmer was getting press and not so much Laws.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2008, 10:45:42 PM
I still can't get over the fact that he's made so many tackles.
Same here. In that video he says he had 112 tackles last year. Ridiculous. His mom must be the stat tracker at ND.
Quote from: MURP on April 26, 2008, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2008, 10:45:42 PM
I still can't get over the fact that he's made so many tackles.
Same here. In that video he says he had 112 tackles last year. Ridiculous. His mom must be the stat tracker at ND.
For real. I know tackles are one of those variable stats, but it will be nice to see him do that here.
This could spell the end for Darren Howard too, hopefully.
QuoteOverview
With all of the attention heaped upon LSU's Glenn Dorsey and Southern California's Sedrick Ellis, some might be surprised to note Laws is by far and away the most productive defensive tackle eligible for the draft. Utilizing a quick burst, impressive hand technique and a non-stop motor, Laws' team-leading 112 tackles ranks only one behind Steve Niehaus as the most in Irish history from a defensive lineman. A strong performance at the Senior Bowl proved Laws wasn't a product of a leaky Notre Dame defense, but a standout despite it.
Analysis
Positives: Short, squatty, powerful build ... Good initial quickness off the snap to generate an instant advantage on his opponent ... Quick, strong hands to disengage from defenders ... Showed significant improvement in this area as a senior ... Good burst when he clears the line to close on the ballcarrier ... Most impressive attribute is his non-stop motor ... Simply doesn't quit on a play ... Laterally and down-the-field, there may not be a defensive lineman in the country who pursues as passionately or effectively ... Strong performance throughout the week of practice and the Senior Bowl boosted stock considerably.
Negatives: Lacks preferred size inside ... Marginal strength to anchor despite his natural leverage advantage ... Best suited to a three technique position in the 4-3 alignment and may be limited to only that role.
Quote from: MURP on April 26, 2008, 10:43:13 PM
Quote
What reality TV show would you like to be on and why?
UFC -- Ultimate Fighter, because I'd win it.
sold
Ha! Good stuff...
Quote from: bowzer on April 26, 2008, 07:50:58 PM
We're half way to building an all Notre-Dame front four.
I think in early '07 Mel Kiper predicted the Eagles would trade down out of the first round and pick up a DL from ND for each of the next two years. He's good.
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 27, 2008, 06:05:36 AM
Quote from: bowzer on April 26, 2008, 07:50:58 PM
We're half way to building an all Notre-Dame front four.
I think in early '07 Mel Kiper predicted the Eagles would trade down out of the first round and pick up a DL from ND for each of the next two years. He's good.
And he LOVES this pick.
I like it.
QuoteLacks preferred size inside
He's still over 300. A lot is said about his quickness, I'm wondering if he might line up at DE?
Quote from: shorebird on April 27, 2008, 09:53:10 AM
I like it.
QuoteLacks preferred size inside
He's still over 300. A lot is said about his quickness, I'm wondering if he might line up at DE?
for what it's worth, i read that he did line up at de at times in college.
QuoteLaws was also invited to play in U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio but declined because of a wrestling commitment. He finished 49-0 as a state champion super-heavyweight wrestler as a junior and was ranked as the No. 1 high school wrestler in the nation. He finished his wrestling career as a three-time All-American with a record of 142-5 and helped his wrestling team win the state title as a sophomore, junior and senior.
wrestling experience is mad good for an interior lineman to have...it's all about leverage strenght and grit
there's that whole rolling around with other men in tights thing too
Quote from: Diomedes on April 27, 2008, 10:44:13 AM
wrestling experience is mad good for an interior lineman to have...it's all about leverage strenght and grit
dead hit Dio.
30/39 Wonderlic score.
Smart motherfarger
47. Philadelphia Eagles
The pick: Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
What he brings: Laws lacks prototypical size for an interior run-stuffer and doesn't have the burst to consistently get to the quarterback at the professional level. But he reminds us of the Energizer Bunny. He works from the snap until the whistle on every play. Also, he plays with excellent leverage and is strong for his size -- he's much more stout than you would think looking at his measurables.
How he fits: Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson loves to stockpile defensive tackles and Laws will be part of the rotation with LaJuan Ramsey and Montae Reagor. The surprising thing is that DTs Mike Patterson and Brodrick Bunkley had good years last year, which allowed DE Trent Cole to dominate outside. This was not a serious need for Philadelphia, but it works within the Eagles' philosophy.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 27, 2008, 10:44:13 AM
wrestling experience is mad good for an interior lineman to have...it's all about leverage strenght and grit
Unless one of those 5 losses is an NFL guard now. Then he's farged.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2008, 10:07:51 PM
47. Philadelphia Eagles
The pick: Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
What he brings: Laws lacks prototypical size for an interior run-stuffer and doesn't have the burst to consistently get to the quarterback at the professional level. But he reminds us of the Energizer Bunny. He works from the snap until the whistle on every play. Also, he plays with excellent leverage and is strong for his size -- he's much more stout than you would think looking at his measurables.
How he fits: Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson loves to stockpile defensive tackles and Laws will be part of the rotation with LaJuan Ramsey and Montae Reagor. The surprising thing is that DTs Mike Patterson and Brodrick Bunkley had good years last year, which allowed DE Trent Cole to dominate outside. This was not a serious need for Philadelphia, but it works within the Eagles' philosophy.
I disagree
i dont know how a back up undersized tackle was a serious need...i want more than a rotation or depth guy with my first pick
A backup quarterback perhaps?
yeah thats even worse
I think Laws will play and play well this year. I think he'll make some plays on his own, but I also think his major value will come from keeping Bunkley/Patterson from wearing down over the course of the season without a huge dropoff in production when they're not on the field. And he'll certainly have more of an impact this year than the backup OT they would have taken at 19. Hard to understand the hate on this pick.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2008, 08:03:03 PM
He looks like his Amish father raped his black mother.
someone on Philaphans saw this post and they're getting a good laugh over there.
so freddie can't make us laugh here, but he can make another mb laugh, weird.
so is this guy pretty much darwin walker before he started asking for more money?
Quote from: hunt on April 28, 2008, 12:19:06 PM
so is this guy pretty much darwin walker before he started asking for more money?
At best.
Signed a 4yr deal...
QuoteHowever, he will likely miss the Rookie and Selected Veteran portion of training camp with a foot injury that was incurred while preparing for camp.
Great news!
he stinks anyway
he's farged, because Bunkley missed some camp and he just never caught up and couldn't crack the lineup because of his holdout...or that's what Andy told us
... or at least someone as large.
just found out a month ago when we were supposed to go to IGY's favorite Seacrets, Laws was there. And Laws was gonna hang around with us, since my brother's girl knows Laws somehow. But since his buddy had a seizure, we were robbed of that great moment.
Second worst story ever.
lmao, i seriously debated putting it on here, knowing that it means jack shtein. On another note, im never getting season tickets
dont listen to rjs....stories about not meeting people are always welcomed
my personal highpoint is a tie between meeting Havas, and Sarge.
icehole
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 22, 2008, 07:56:37 AM
dont listen to rjs....stories about not meeting people are always welcomed
I met Montae Reagor a few weeks ago at baggage claims in Dallas. I couldn't stop looking at his crazy eye. Very nice guy.
Laws was inactive on Sunday in favor of Antonio Dixon.
Doesn't bode well for the guy when Dixon, a taterskins castoff, is getting run over him.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 22, 2008, 06:55:15 AM
just found out a month ago when we were supposed to go to IGY's favorite Seacrets, Laws was there. And Laws was gonna hang around with us, since my brother's girl knows Laws somehow. But since his buddy had a seizure, we were robbed of that great moment.
I saw him there. It was memorial day and he was with Victor A. and another ND dude.
Quietly becoming the biggest bust of the Reid era, at least based on draft pick. He still has time to turn it on, but the clock's ticking.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 14, 2009, 11:32:04 PM
Quietly becoming the biggest bust of the Reid era, at least based on draft pick. He still has time to turn it on, but the clock's ticking.
Biggest bust?
I don't know if you can put him over Mitchell, McDougle or Barry Gardner and McCoy
Mitchell and McDougle at least made some valuable contributions from time to time. Gardner started. McCoy was drafted later. Has Laws done a thing worth noting? He was taken #47 overall.
Andrews is the biggest bust of the Reid era, since he showed the most potential of any first round pick after McNabb.
Quote from: bowzer on October 14, 2009, 11:30:20 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 22, 2008, 06:55:15 AM
just found out a month ago when we were supposed to go to IGY's favorite Seacrets, Laws was there. And Laws was gonna hang around with us, since my brother's girl knows Laws somehow. But since his buddy had a seizure, we were robbed of that great moment.
I saw him there. It was memorial day and he was with Victor A. and another ND dude.
you were just that close to dieing, imagine that.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 14, 2009, 11:41:56 PM
Andrews is the biggest bust of the Reid era, since he showed the most potential of any first round pick after McNabb.
That's why I said "at least based on draft pick." Laws wasn't hyped all that much, so the difference between the hype and the reality isn't as drastic as for some of those guys like Mitchell, McDougle, or Andrews. He's quietly sucking, Quinton Caver style.
At least Antonio Dixon probably had a better game than anything Laws had put up.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 14, 2009, 11:41:56 PM
Andrews is the biggest bust of the Reid era, since he showed the most potential of any first round pick after McNabb.
plus they traded up for him
i dont put laws as a bust because as qb mentioned he basically sucked in college and it was clear to anyone that had seen him he wasnt going to be a player...as a pick i put him on a level with mccoy...a horrible selection but not a bust...which of course is much worse...ill take an andrews any day of the week...a guy that busts but at least had massive upside...versus a complete scab like laws
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 14, 2009, 11:37:55 PM
Mitchell and McDougle at least made some valuable contributions from time to time. Gardner started. McCoy was drafted later. Has Laws done a thing worth noting? He was taken #47 overall.
Mitchell maybe, but what contribution did McDougle make? Seriously, what did he do here?
Gardner only started because Quentin Caver (another Reid bust) couldnt push him for time.
And, McCoy was a second rounder just like Gardner and Caver.
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 15, 2009, 09:38:43 AM
but what contribution did McDougle make? Seriously, what did he do here?
mcdougle shook eli's head gear...thats it....thats the list
oh then eli won a superbowl
He is exactly like a McCoy a player that only the Eagles seemed to have rated that high. That draft would be disastrous if it wasn't for the fact they selected pimp.
Actually McCoy was rated as a potential first rounder, but he had questions about his character. Pimp was rated high as farg, but he got the Diva stereotype.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 15, 2009, 10:58:04 AM
Actually McCoy was rated as a potential first rounder, but he had questions about his character. Pimp was rated high as farg, but he got the Diva stereotype.
I am pretty much a nerd when it comes to the draft and no where leading up to the draft did I see McCoy rated as a first rounder. Unless you are talking about Lesean and not Matt.
sorry thought you were talking bout your boy Lesean. You're right, how they picked Mccoy we'll never know
Trevor Laws
DeSean Jackson
Bryan Smith
Mike McGlynn
Quintin Demps
Jack Ikegwuono
Mike Gibson
Joe Mays
Andy Studebaker
King Dunlap
4 guys are off the team, 3 are backups w/ no shot of starting without colossal injuries and one stud WR. Sure, the draft was a bust, but Pimp is the farging man.
lolol @ you farging guys. jackson is one of if not the best young receivers in the nfl and you're whining about a bunch of scrubs at the bottom of the draft who haven't panned out yet.
Quote from: Rome on October 15, 2009, 06:01:49 PM
lolol @ you farging guys. jackson is one of if not the best young receivers in the nfl and you're whining about a bunch of scrubs at the bottom of the draft who haven't panned out yet.
Well the impetus for this conversation was a scrub who was drafted before Jackson.
Reid's 1st and 2nd rounders, ranked by pick # - feel free to disagree with the evaulations
2. Donovan McNabb - hit
6. Corey Simon - good starter, though often out of shape
14. Brodrick Bunkley - good starter
15. Jerome McDougle - miss, injury-prone
16. Shawn Andrews - miss, good starter made worthless by physical and mental problems
19. Jeremy Maclin - early, but has already done more than Mitchell
25. Freddie Mitchell - miss, but involved in some classic plays
26. Lito Sheppard - hit
31. Mike Patterson - good starter
35. Reggie Brown - solid beginning to career, but contributions fell off quickly
35. Barry Gardner - miss, kept in the NFL by solid special teams
36. Kevin Kolb - early, mixed results so far
36. Todd Pinkston - mediocre starter
39. Winston Justice - early, mixed results so far
47. Trevor Laws - early, but so far no meaningful contribution whatsoever
49. DeSean Jackson - hit
53. LeSean McCoy - early, good so far
55. Quinton Caver - miss, no meaningful contribution whatsoever
57. Victor Abiamiri - early, did enough to start
58. Michael Lewis - reasonably good starter
59. Sheldon Brown - hit
61. L.J. Smith - mediocre starter
61. Bobbie Williams - miss, did enough to start for 2 years
63. Matt McCoy - miss, started a few games and looked horrible
-gotta be happy with McNabb, Bunkley, Sheppard, Patterson, Jackson, S. Brown. Simon had issues but was legitimately good as well
-and given the bust rate in the NFL you can't be upset about Pinkston, Lewis, or Smith
-R. Brown is the closest thing to a borderline case. Not quite a bust, not quite a legit starter.
-Andrews is frustrating as hell because you know he has talent
-the total busts were McDougle, Mitchell, Gardner, Caver, Williams, and M. McCoy
-i'm giving an incomplete to Maclin, Kolb, Justice, Laws, L. McCoy, and Abiamiri. Other than Laws they've all shown at least some indication of having some ability
so you've got 7 players in the "good" catergory. 8 if you want to count andrews because even though the guy is missing his 3rd season with injury, he has been to the probowl and is widely regarded and an awesome player around the league. there's 24 picks up there total so those 8 players alone would give reid a 33% success rate in the first 2 rounds.
throw in smith, pinkston, lewis since they were at least moderately productive players and that gives you 10 out of 24 and now you're up to 42% success rate.
of course, this all depends on how each person grades each draft pick. a lot of people will say that a 1st or 2nd round pick should be a starter and one of the top contributers to the team otherwise it's a bust pick.
personally, after actually looking at the first 2 rounds over the last 10 years, it's really not quite as bad as i thought. and i think that in those 2 rounds, if you are between 30-40% successfull then you're doing pretty darn good.
of course, the best way to really see how successful reid has been is to compare those picks with the 1st and 2nd round picks of every other team during that time frame.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 14, 2009, 11:37:55 PM
Mitchell and McDougle at least made some valuable contributions from time to time. Gardner started. McCoy was drafted later. Has Laws done a thing worth noting? He was taken #47 overall.
What exactly did he do ever???
Quote from: RezRob on October 16, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 14, 2009, 11:37:55 PM
Mitchell and McDougle at least made some valuable contributions from time to time. Gardner started. McCoy was drafted later. Has Laws done a thing worth noting? He was taken #47 overall.
What exactly did he do ever???
Try to keep up..
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2009, 09:41:45 AM
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 15, 2009, 09:38:43 AM
but what contribution did McDougle make? Seriously, what did he do here?
mcdougle shook eli's head gear...thats it....thats the list
oh then eli won a superbowl
Still on the team, for the record. Also, asking the important questions:
QuoteThe real question is, should I once again bring back the big n thick camp 'stache?
he looks like the GEICO caveman