Every year, there is at least two players that really stand out for this team: There is the guy that we all seem to be convinced will be a very good player and completely shteins the bed, and there is the guy that we'd all assumed was weak and/or given up for dead that plays really well and makes a positive impact.
In 2007, the first guy could be Jevon Kearse and the second could be Broderick Bunkley.
So, the goal here is to name your predictions for the 2008 season on these two guys:
1. The guy who really shteins the bed.
2. The guy who raises some eyebrows with his good play.
My predictions as of today:
1. Juqua Thomas
2. Stewart Bradley
Saying that Juqua Thomas will shtein the bed isn't really fair. He's nothing but a situational rush end who will fall flat on his face if he's asked to play a lot and everyone knows it.
I would actually say that Reggie Brown was the biggest bed-shteinter this year, though at least he contributed SOMETHING.
I had a lot of options for #1: Omar Gaither, Lito Sheppard, Brent Celek, Donovan McNabb...
I had a few less for #2: Omar Gaither, Lito Sheppard, Brent Celek, Donovan McNabb...
1. The guy who really shteins the bed - david akers
2. The guy who raises some eyebrows with his good play - mjg
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2007, 08:43:06 AM
2. The guy who raises some eyebrows with his good play - mjg
Are you thinking they'll move Herremans back to tackle? If so, he's another candidate for shteinting the bed.
i wouldnt be surprised if they did that but that wasnt in my thought process...i just think mjg straight up beats herremans out in camp...what happens with todd after that who knows
1. The guy who really shteins the bed: Brent Celek - I like him... but I can't shake the feeling that he's just "a guy" and when he's handed the starting TE spot next season (which we all know he will) he'll prove just that.
2. The guy who raises some eyebrows with his good play: Chris Gocong - He's basically just completed his rookie season at SAM and his play has been solid. Another year in the system, he can react more than think and he steps his play up.
you can react all you want but you still have to get to the ball (see barry gardner)...gocong has neither the burst quickness speed or power to do so...
also theres a chance that gocong doesnt even start at lb next year...but i suppose thats what would make him a true breakout player...
Ha! Knew you'd be the 1st to answer that...
I'm not as down on Gocong as you are. We haven't been raped by opposing TE's (other than the 1st time against Witten) and our run D has been pretty good. He's been a contributor to that. I've seen him make plays in the backfield... and I've seen him lose his feet which made him miss a play. I think he'll get better ... and yeah, the fact that no one really expects anything from him would be what fools folks if he has a good year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2007, 08:49:27 AM
i wouldnt be surprised if they did that but that wasnt in my thought process...i just think mjg straight up beats herremans out in camp...what happens with todd after that who knows
Eskin, Ekert, Douglas and I think it was Diddinger (?) were all talking before the game yesterday and all agreed Herremans would be gone next year
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 31, 2007, 09:34:44 AM
Ha! Knew you'd be the 1st to answer that...
I'm not as down on Gocong as you are. We haven't been raped by opposing TE's (other than the 1st time against Witten) and our run D has been pretty good. He's been a contributor to that. I've seen him make plays in the backfield... and I've seen him lose his feet which made him miss a play. I think he'll get better ... and yeah, the fact that no one really expects anything from him would be what fools folks if he has a good year.
I agree with most of this, although I don't think Gocong was downfield covering TEs all game long like Carlos Emmons did when he was here.
Look gocong is vanilla as shtein but he's on the team and he's not going anywhere so can we please stop arguing about whether he's below average, slightly below average or just plain average? We all agree that he isn't a star or anything close but he's about the most boring topic of conversation I can think of.
True. Let's talk about his rock-hard abs.
no i love the gocong arguement, keep it going IGY!
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 31, 2007, 10:33:27 AM
True. Let's talk about his rock-hard abs.
I want to zerbet his tummy!
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(http://images.sportsnetwork.com/cfoot/1aa/2005_awards/gocong_buchanan2.jpg)
Was everyone really convinced that Kearse was good right before the beginning of this season? I don't remember that... I agree with rjs, Brown was clearly the king of bed-shteinters this season.
I'll roll the dice.
Player who shteins the bed: Quintin Mikell (because absolutely none of us see it coming)
Player who opens some eyes: Jason Avant (because absolutely none of us see it coming)
to shtein the bed dont you have to be at least a good player to begin with...i would never be mad at a quinten mikell because i dont expect anything from him and whatever he gives the team is a bonus imo...i mean hes just a special teamer
shtein the bed: Reggie Brown. He just doesn't seem to try very hard, quits on plays. Oh, and he can't catch.
Open some eyes: JR Reed. Could be the starting SS next year (why do I follow this farging team?)
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 11:30:13 AM
JR Reed. Could be the starting SS next year (why do I follow this farging team?)
ha
If Reed is starting next year it won't be because he is any good, it will be because this team couldn't find someone who was any better. And that would be pathetic.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 31, 2007, 11:37:24 AM
If Reed is starting next year it won't be because he is any good, it will be because this team couldn't find someone who was any better. And that would be pathetic.
Welcome to Reno's world.
Andy Reid was hyping JR Reed in his presser so look forward to seeing your boy out there next year
andy reids pressers are worthless if hes talking about next week...so i wouldnt put much weight into something he says in december with regards to nine months from now
eye opener: Celek, especially if Kolb sees any real playing time. Bradley also, but if he plays well I'm not sure it would be totally suprising given the flashes he's shown already.
mattress artist: Dawk. Hate to say it, an all time favorite, hope I'm wrong etc., but it is more likely he'll lose another step and give up plays, (or just be injured again) than regain something of his old form. It would be a shame since the team has little enough leadership as it is.
Bed shteinter: David Akers
Eye Opener: Donovan McNabb
I agree with IGY, and have said it before, that I thik Akers is just about done. The Eagles FO would be doing themselves a serious disservice by not bringing in a kicker who has a legit shot of kicking in the NFL as the "camp body" next year. No more Eric Meng, Tim Duncan and Carlos Martinez types. Akers needs to be pushed and the Eagles need a guy who they can get to know so once Akers finally does shtein himself, they can call this newbie kicker up. Kickers, once they lose that stroke, never seem to get it back. Look no further than The Idiot Kicker. He was great in years past, but these last couple of years worried me. This year was flat out atrocious.
McNabb is going to open eyes because he goes into the off-season healthy for the first time in awhile. No surgeries, no rehab this time. Just training and continuing to get the knee strong and building on how he finished this year. He'll also be motivated by the talk of his demise this year. And this is a total leap of faith on my part, why I'm thinking this might be booze talking, but I think they get him another weapon to help. A healthy, determined McNabb with weapons is what we'll see.
Kill me now.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 11:30:13 AM
shtein the bed: Reggie Brown. Oh, and he can't catch.
How many drops did he have this year? I didn't see every game but it seemed less of an issue this year than it was last year.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
Eye Opener: Donovan McNabb
McNabb is going to open eyes because he goes into the off-season healthy for the first time in awhile. No surgeries, no rehab this time. Just training and continuing to get the knee strong and building on how he finished this year. He'll also be motivated by the talk of his demise this year. And this is a total leap of faith on my part, why I'm thinking this might be booze talking, but I think they get him another weapon to help. A healthy, determined McNabb with weapons is what we'll see.
Kill me now.
You got 100% support on this Phreak. From me, anyway.
I heard somewhere that Donovan's offseason training techniques are really awesome.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 01, 2008, 10:11:17 AM
I heard somewhere that Donovan's offseason training techniques are really awesome.
I heard he's going to change his offseason training to improve flexibility instead of trying to bulk up and get stronger.
Which is what I think he should have been doing his whole career.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 01, 2008, 10:11:17 AM
I heard somewhere that Donovan's offseason training techniques are really awesome.
Catching beanbags in Arizona!
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 01, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 01, 2008, 10:11:17 AM
I heard somewhere that Donovan's offseason training techniques are really awesome.
Catching beanbags in Arizona!
Catching squeaky dog toys in Arizona!
catching greg lewis' penis in his butt in arizona
shtein the bed: Quentin Mikell. I like the guy, but I don't think over the course of the season he'll play like he did this year. This one was a fluke.
Eye Opener: Jason Avant. I really like the way the guy always catches the ball. I'm not saying he's going to be the next great wide reciever by any stretch, but he's going to become a very solid possesion guy. I see him having 45+ catches next year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 01, 2008, 06:29:17 PM
catching greg lewis' penis in his butt in arizona
...ever pull your bicycle into an airplane hangar?
Ask some Philly waiters how tight McNabb's ass is.
Quote from: troyhstewart on January 01, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 01, 2008, 10:11:17 AM
I heard somewhere that Donovan's offseason training techniques are really awesome.
I heard he's going to change his offseason training to improve flexibility instead of trying to bulk up and get stronger.
Which is what I think he should have been doing his whole career.
I think he wanted to start doing that a few years ago but instead spent the last 2 offseasons rehabbing his injuries.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 02, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
I think he wanted to start doing that a few years ago but instead spent the last 2 offseasons rehabbing his bruised ego and gaping vagine.
uh huh...7 tears to the groin and a hernia.
Just sayin'
You're saying McNabb wouldn't be as injury-prone if he had lady parts?
Quote from: General_Failure on January 02, 2008, 09:48:00 AM
Ask some Philly waiters how tight McNabb's ass is.
Not just Philly. Jersey waiters hate to see him coming, too. Apparently, Koy was great that way, though. They loved seeing him walk in.
Good - Mikell I think is the real deal. Made nothing but good plays when he starts.
Bad - MJG - if he is a full-time starter I think he will start to get exposed. Basing that on nothing btw.