So Tito is out again in week 1 like last year. Did Reid update him post game? He's becoming quite prone to injury himself. At least they have Will James.
Joselio Hanson knocked himself out on Jackson.
Who else got hurt?
James sucks. That guy's all farging talk.
andy reid day to day : labotomy
Rory Secrest day-to-day with an assasination.
Quote from: methdeez on September 09, 2007, 05:19:10 PM
Rory Secrest day-to-day with an assasination.
we'd be better off with Ryan Seacrest
lito is out with the mcl...could be back for detroit
will james
joselio hanson
greg lewis
sean considine
all day to day
considine is prolly banged up cause he actually had to make a couple of tackles.
In more hilarious news:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7211234 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7211234)
Lito out for next week, at least.
we know
Schefter says 3-5 weeks for Lito :-\
Nothing new with him....
Then when they make the playoffs he'll get hurt again too.
At least he's consistent.
Good thing they secured the CB spot with the self-proclaimed best defensive back in the whole NFL, Will(iam) Jamespeterson.
James isnt bad, he just has the pain tolerance of Kearse
Yeah, what a laugher:
Week 1: Kearse limps off the field at least once, despite not being injured at all. Lito goes out for a few weeks with injury.
Why didn't I go to Vegas and make some money off of this? Was there ever any doubt in anyone's mind that both of these events would occur?
Dawkins = stinger
W.Thomas = back spasms
Considine = knee contusion
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 18, 2007, 12:00:41 AM
Dawkins = stinger(Concussion)
W.Thomas = back spasms(same thing different day)
Considine = knee contusion(cant believe he came back given the way he dropped like a bitch)
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 18, 2007, 12:00:41 AM
Dawkins = stinger
W.Thomas = back spasms
Considine = knee contusion
Dawkins SHOULD rest up a week.
It's time to get Justice out there and see if he can play. (By the way, I was impressed with his footwork on pass blocking last night. He made some mistakes, sure, but he looked far from lost.)
Throw Considine into the sun.
Westbrook - tweak in the knee.
McNabb- bruised vagina
The offense is getting plenty of production otherwise, so they should be fine without Westbrook.
Westbrook came back in and played with the sprained knee.
Thanks for the update. Are you aware the game was on national television?
QuoteLito Sheppard is a question mark with his knee injury, so the starting cornerbacks could again be Sheldon Brown -- who has been very good in both games -- and William James.
This quote from Dave's most recent article made me laugh. It's obvious he implied "-- who has not" at the end.
Quote from: Munson on September 19, 2007, 03:18:33 PM
Westbrook came back in and played with the sprained knee.
Did anybody tell Andy?
I heard it was in color too.
LOL FF at that quote.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 19, 2007, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Munson on September 19, 2007, 03:18:33 PM
Westbrook came back in and played with the sprained knee.
Did anybody tell Andy?
They told him they had an extra WR on the field who will just stand in the backfield next to Mcnabb for shteins and giggles.
Quote from: Munson on September 19, 2007, 03:26:00 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 19, 2007, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Munson on September 19, 2007, 03:18:33 PM
Westbrook came back in and played with the sprained knee.
Did anybody tell Andy?
They told him they had an extra WR on the field who will just stand in the backfield next to Mcnabb for shteins and giggles.
That was hilarious and sad at the same time.
Any update on Westbrook's ribs?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 24, 2007, 11:03:26 AM
Any update on Westbrook's ribs?
Bruised ribs, no damage according to the X-rays. He'll be fine to play vs. the Giants especially since they have the bye the following week.
oh lord westbrook has an abdominal strain
tra = mcl sprain
no timetables on either
didnt tra come back in yesterday?
and andrews is ok right?
didnt hear anything on andrews...i was listening to andys press conference tho and not reading an actual injury report...not sure if andrews will show up on that or not but if it was even a little serious im sure andy would have spoken on it
he also didnt seem to be too concerned with westbrook but i dont like the words abdominal injury
id much rather it be a rib
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2007, 12:15:58 PM
didnt hear anything on andrews...i was listening to andys press conference tho and not reading an actual injury report...not sure if andrews will show up on that or not but if it was even a little serious im sure andy would have spoken on it
he also didnt seem to be too concerned with westbrook but i dont like the words abdominal injury
id much rather it be a rib
Andrews was on Channel 6 sports show at 1130pm, he said he was fine. Just poked in the eye, then banged his knee after he got back.
I think Westy is fine, but i'd rather the Giants think he's hurt
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 24, 2007, 12:34:53 PM
I think Westy is fine, but i'd rather the Giants think he's hurt
yeah, they probably wouldn't gameplan for him then...even though it's a D Coordinator that used to work here
Quote from: SunMo on September 24, 2007, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 24, 2007, 12:34:53 PM
I think Westy is fine, but i'd rather the Giants think he's hurt
yeah, they probably wouldn't gameplan for him then...even though it's a D Coordinator that used to work here
From a player standpoint, not gameplanning. Heck Westbrook seems to shine when he's questionable coming into the game.
he didn't really seem to be a factor yesterday
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2007, 12:15:58 PM
he also didnt seem to be too concerned with westbrook but i dont like the words abdominal injury
id much rather it be a rib
say word.
Maan, I don't like "abdominal strain" either. They linger like groin injuries. You gotta' figure the tough bugger will play though. I just hope he doesn't hurt it further.
not just linger but they often require surgery or turn into a hernia...sounds like westbrooks is high tho and near the rib cage which is a better place to have it
I used to worry about saving Bwest, but now this team has no choice but to play him. If he does get hurt, I'd rather have it happen early and not right while your trying to get into the playoffs.
with the bye coming up and the giants secondary sucking my gut says westbrook sits out this week
cant see him missing any time right now, especially against a division opponent. The eagle are at a very critical stage right now. He can split with Buck if thats the case
regardless if the Giants secondary sucks right now, the Eagles WR's are no prize.
How bout our secondary? The Giants WR's can eat them up. Very close game
If 36 can play, and it sounds like he most likely can, there is no way the eagles sit him for this game. Division rival, trying to rebound form that horrendous start, and with the smart money saying that Dallas wins this week, Eagles know they have to stay only 2 games out, and not risk dropping to three. Sure, the Giants are saying the same thing, but I don't think they have it in them to win against Philly this week.
on the flip side if he can turn the strain into a tear by playing then he sits because the giants are a bad team this is early in the year and the conf stinks
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 11:06:37 AM
on the flip side if he can turn the strain into a tear by playing then he sits because the giants are a bad team this is early in the year and the conf stinks
Right, because we learned in 2005 that Reid sits his best players when they're in danger of worsening an injury.
altho theyve yet to disclose the specifics of westbrooks injury mcnabbs was different in that they knew from the start he was gonna need surgery and no amount of rest was going to make him feel better...he basically played until he couldnt play any longer
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 11:49:45 AM
altho theyve yet to disclose the specifics of westbrooks injury mcnabbs was different in that they knew from the start he was gonna need surgery and no amount of rest was going to make him feel better...he basically played until he couldnt play any longer
No way, the milquetoast man did that. He's too weak minded to play in pain.
his mind wasnt injured
no one has ever questioned his pain threshold
remember the broken leg
Playing through pain doesn't require MENTAL toughness. It requires physical toughness. There's a difference.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 25, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
Playing through pain doesn't require MENTAL toughness. It requires physical toughness. There's a difference.
Thats ridiculous. It does require mental toughness. You can force yourself to play through pain if you are mentally capable of it.
Let's just agree that there are different facets of emotional and mental toughness and that McNabb is OK with some but absolutely missing others.
I've played through broken bones and I'm as mentally soft as they come.
Talk around THAT!
I don't see how a guy who constantly throws up in tense situations can be considered mentally tough.
Whatever, though. More cheese, please.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 25, 2007, 12:41:43 PM
I've played through broken bones and I'm as mentally soft as they come.
Talk around THAT!
masturbating with a broken toe doesn't count.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 25, 2007, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 25, 2007, 12:41:43 PM
I've played through broken bones and I'm as mentally soft as they come.
Talk around THAT!
masturbating with a broken toe doesn't count.
The fact that he's using his toes counts for something though. Not sure if its good or bad.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 25, 2007, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 25, 2007, 12:41:43 PM
I've played through broken bones and I'm as mentally soft as they come.
Talk around THAT!
masturbating with a broken toe doesn't count.
I'm flexible.
any news on BDAWK?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 08:44:46 AM
with the bye coming up and the giants secondary sucking my gut says westbrook sits out this week
I think he'll play. We're up against a divisional opponent and we're 1-2. If we were 3-0 going into this game, then I think Andy would be a little more inclined to give Westbrook 3 weeks to heal up through the bye.
My money says Westbrook does his usual not practicing during the week thing and then plays on Sunday and takes the two weeks to heal.
Quote from: mussa on September 25, 2007, 01:50:45 PM
any news on BDAWK?
Supposed to play.
i might be the only person left that cares but lj smith was announced out of sundays game
And out of Philly next year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 26, 2007, 03:12:45 PM
i might be the only person left that cares but lj smith was announced out of sundays game
i care. i use him in madden a lot.
I care, but only because I know Rutgers kids are supposed to be tougher than he is.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 26, 2007, 03:12:45 PM
i might be the only person left that cares but lj smith was announced out of sundays game
Who's LJ Smith? Is he on the Eagles because he sure doesn't play much.
Welcome to the Brent Celek show... too bad they won't throw him the ball.
Yeah but he's a pretty good blocker from what I've seen. I'll take it.
Apparently, LJ's rehab consists of regularly working the groin to keep it loose.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/286/n24300475309670989155qo0.jpg)
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070927_Look_for_Dawkins_but_not_Sheppard_against_Giants.html)
Sounds like Dawk should be able to go but Lito may be out. Reid said Lito was close to go vs. the Lions so I'm wondering if he suffered a setback.
Seems likely that Reid is just trying to let him sit and get healthy coming out of the bye week. Plus if Burress is actually hurt (?) there is less need for Lito...
EDIT: What a useless post. Please strike it from the record. I HEART STATING THE OBVIOUS!
Burress could tie one arm behind his back and still get over 100 yards vs. our midget CBs
Too bad he doesn't run on his arms.
Quote from: Munson on September 27, 2007, 03:59:31 AM
Yeah but he's a pretty good blocker from what I've seen. I'll take it.
What the farg have you been watching? He almost got McNabb killed a few times in the first few games.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 27, 2007, 08:24:19 AM
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/286/n24300475309670989155qo0.jpg)
Will lick her cheerio, pass, oral for 5 hours
the best part of that picture is the yellow herpes you can see on her tongue.
Ease back white bitch, I don't play that
Just because I got on my L.A. hat
Stalkin' walking in my big black boots
Is my jingle, now you want Mandingo
Big, black and handsome
I should hold your devil ass for ransome
Sorta like Patty Herst, but I'll burst first bitch
And you know what's worse
I'm coming from the land where the choppers roam
So farg you bitch and your Coppertone
Stringy hair - no derrier - frontin' and fakin' with your silicone pair
Do I wanna farg? Not hardly
That's kinda like Barbie fargin' Bob Marley
It ain't gonna happen, I keep rappin'
Muthafarg Teniell, but see I'm the Captain of this ship
And I'm true to the game
Ya all look the same
Standin' by my backstage door, hopin' that'll switch
Spread out you little cave bitch
Why everytime we get famous
You wanna play us like Andy and Amos?
The devil sent you to try and tame us
But you can't tame me, with no bitch named Amy
Lookin' for the dark meat
But ho, I ain't tryin' to go out like Barkely
Cuz everytime I turn on the TV
I see several brothers with she-devils
Smilin' cuz you out on a date
But sooner or later, the bitch'll yell rape
Soon as daddy found out you a jigaboo
He'll kill like he did Emmitt Till
Yah, he tried to kick bass
But the bitch probably threw it in his face
Sargent Bale ain't nothin' but a trick
Nasty as hell, stanky little cave bitch
Now don't think that I hate you
Cuz I won't date you, bitch I gotta stay true
You can be a fan, but don't expand
And try to get my meatcicle in your hand
You better run to the minute man
Pale as snow, so act like y'know
Cuz if I slap it, flip it, and rub it like that
Yeah, it gotta be black
Plus yo ass too flat
I need a butt big enough that can clap
Rat-a-tat-tat
You can't get mine ho
I'd rather farg an albino
Atleast I know, she's comin' from the Nubian
And not the Ku Klux Klan that you be in
And I don't give a farg if your family is rich
You're still a little cave bitch
Yeah! Keep it real, dook.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 27, 2007, 11:34:47 AM
Yeah! Keep it real, dook.
That rap quote would have had some relevance if they were licking some black guy's face.
Pretty retarded lyric.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 27, 2007, 10:31:41 AM
Quote from: Munson on September 27, 2007, 03:59:31 AM
Yeah but he's a pretty good blocker from what I've seen. I'll take it.
What the farg have you been watching? He almost got McNabb killed a few times in the first few games.
I guess I should have specified his run blocking. He's done a good job on LB's.
hes a terrible blocker period...but thats not why they got him...they got him for his pass catching ability
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 27, 2007, 08:24:19 AM
Apparently, LJ's rehab consists of regularly working the groin to keep it loose.
Someone misspelled c*nt.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2007, 01:50:03 PM
hes a terrible blocker period...but thats not why they got him...they got him for his pass catching ability
He's done pretty good run blocking. Infact I think it was NFL live they were showcasing one of Westbrook's TD runs and you can see Celek mauling a LB like 10 yards down field from the line of scrimmage. He obviously can't block like that every play, but if he gets a few of those blocks once or twice a game it could help Westbrook break some more TD runs.
it certainly could
Wait, is Munson saying that good blocking could lead to touchdowns? I'm confused.
His blocking is a hell of a lot better then LJ Smith's.....and we saw what Westbrook when LJ actually did lay a good block in the NO playoff game last year.
Celek's downfield blocking is pretty impressive for a rookie, but his blocking on the line needs a lot of work.
We've definitely seen enough of Celek to know all this, of course.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2007, 08:20:44 AM
We've definitely seen enough of Celek to know all this, of course.
more than enough, he's easlily a top 3 teh in the league
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 28, 2007, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2007, 08:20:44 AM
We've definitely seen enough of Celek to know all this, of course.
more than enough, he's easlily a top 3 teh in the league
Top 3 at in-line blocking, downfield blocking, or both?
cmon...whos paying attention to the blocking techniques of a TE when your watching the offense
assumptions are fun
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2007, 08:59:56 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 28, 2007, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2007, 08:20:44 AM
We've definitely seen enough of Celek to know all this, of course.
more than enough, he's easlily a top 3 teh in the league
Top 3 at in-line blocking, downfield blocking, or both?
Top 3 EVA
Quote from: reese125 on September 28, 2007, 09:03:08 AM
cmon...whos paying attention to the blocking techniques of a TE when your watching the offense
assumptions are fun
On Westbrook's 1st TD run... they pointed it out in a replay how Celek totally took his man out of the play with a great block.
Thanks Munson.
lito and tra officially listed as doubtful
dawkins and westbrook = questionable
Westbrook and Dawk didn't practice today. Not the best sign that they missed Friday.
Jacobs did practice for the Giants though.
Wonderful.
I hope Plax isn't out there for the Jints.
And I guess we see the Winston Justice era begin Sunday. SunMo will be wearing his new yellow/blue #74 with pride.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2007, 11:58:26 PM
And I guess we see the Winston Justice era begin Sunday. SunMo will be wearing his new yellow/blue #74 with pride.
ha
im actually really excited to see justice play a real live whole game
I am too, to be honest. They've got to get an idea of what he can do at some point. He'll have some speed going against him with Human Urine and Tuck and those guys.
Herremans underwent arthroscopic knee surgery today, no timetable for return yet (http://philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=14089) ???
And look who's slotted as his back up. Great.
Justice-Young left side....awesome.
When Herremans can we jsut move him to LT and put GIllis at Guard and be done with it?
Justice looked like a world class piece of shtein, but it is a little too early to write him off.
bottom might as well fall out at this point and get a top 5 draft pick if possible
Not yet, white wonder. Yes, they look like shtein, but as we saw last season just about anything can happen in a matter of 6 weeks or so.
BTW - I need your address for $20. PM me.
im gonna have sun send you his addy as i owe him 40 bucks
lol
Quote from: Father Demon on October 02, 2007, 09:22:05 PM
Not yet, white wonder. Yes, they look like shtein, but as we saw last season just about anything can happen in a matter of 6 weeks or so.
BTW - I need your address for $20. PM me.
That was with Jeffy at Qb though, Mcnabb hasn't exactly won many games in his last 10 starts.
The point was, my flexing master drunk friend, was that anything is possible and you just don't know what's going to happen.
shtein can happen. Of course, it may not too. But my eternally optimistic self will believe that it will.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2007, 09:04:43 PM
bottom might as well fall out at this point and get a top 5 draft pick if possible
Yep. No Super Bowl = why bother?
(I'm seriously agreeing and not being sarcastic.)
I am dead serious when I say that I don't want Andy Reid to have a top five pick. Is there anything more certain than Andy Reid farging it up and the team ending up with a top-five-pick-salary and a useless rotational player?
Quote from: rjs246 on October 03, 2007, 08:37:41 AM
I am dead serious when I say that I don't want Andy Reid to have a top five pick. Is there anything more certain than Andy Reid farging it up and the team ending up with a top-five-pick-salary and a useless rotational player?
Offensive lineman, anyone?
I think the goal here is an all-out tank, an Andy Reid departure, and THEN a top-5 pick.
Top five pick without Andy Reid would be a more than acceptable outcome.
Does Lurie actually have the stones to fire Reid this season?
Say what you will, but McNabb was the only top-5 pick he's had so far, and he seems to have turned out OK. Wasn't Corey Simon a 6 or 8? Not perfect, but not exactly a bust. I would think it is harder to make a good pick in the 10-20 range than either of the other two thirds.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 03, 2007, 08:49:20 AM
Does Lurie actually have the stones to fire Reid this season?
No, of course not. Reid will not be fired before you can get season tickets for face value. Our only hope is for Reid to resign.
No. But the option of resignation HAS to become more and more realistic as the season falls apart.
Cerevant. McNabb turned out to be great, but picking a franchise quarterback with a top five pick is a whole different ball of wax than what this team would be picking this year. Can you really see Reid successfully selecting a WR or LB or Safety or any defensive position that would perform at a high level and justify the pick? Top 10 picks are just as likely to bust as other first rounders and they cost a lot more money.
And Andy didn't draft Simon.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 03, 2007, 08:54:02 AM
No. But the option of resignation HAS to become more and more realistic as the season falls apart.
For serious.
God, that would be great. At this point, is there a list of who would replace him? I've heard Parcells, Gruden and Cowher. With the way Tampa is playing in that division, they may make the playoffs, so Gruden might not be available. Parcells......I doubt highly, and I doubt Cowher as well, as he is going to want HUGE money and total control. We could pick up Norv Turner next week. That would be supertastic.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 03, 2007, 08:56:49 AM
And Andy didn't draft Simon.
Yes, he did. Him and Tommy Modrak.
Really? I thought that was the year before. Oh well. Either way, farg Andy Reid.
I think Andy was good for the team for a period of time, and they had their chances partially in response to his direction, coaching, and personnel moves.
That said, the window has closed. Andy will never win a championship in Philly. Neither will Donovan.
Anyway... any other injury updates?
Quote from: PPinDC on October 03, 2007, 08:59:03 AM
I've heard Parcells, Gruden and Cowher. With the way Tampa is playing in that division, they may make the playoffs, so Gruden might not be available. Parcells......
rumor has it that gruden or cowher will take over for phillip fulmer at u tenn next year
Quote from: rjs246 on October 03, 2007, 08:56:49 AM
Cerevant. McNabb turned out to be great, but picking a franchise quarterback with a top five pick is a whole different ball of wax than what this team would be picking this year.
One might argue that they should be picking a franchise QB. If you think Kolb is the QB of the future, you are off your rocker.
Bottom line is that we have nothing on which to judge Reid/Heckert's ability to use a top 5 pick.
Playing Devil's advocate (I want Reid gone too), consider:
- The Eagles Build through the draft
- The Eagles don't like spending money on high-priced talent, from their own team or other teams
- The Eagles haven't had a top 10 pick since McNabb
Wouldn't this indicate that the team has been pretty successful drafting the pieces they need to build a winning team? This is why Reid won't be fired - he may not be great, but he's good enough. And he doesn't embarrass the ownership like a lot of the "great" coaches are prone to do.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 03, 2007, 09:12:09 AM
If you think Kolb is the QB of the future, you are off your rocker.
If you think you honestly know that he's
not any good, you are also off your rocker.
WPOTW
can you supply a link to where cobb wont be the qb of the future....im not saying he will be but how on earth could you write him off after a couple quarters of preseason football
Wouldn't this indicate that the team has been pretty successful drafting the pieces they need to build a winning team?
absolutely 100% not...they hit on mcnabb and having the best qb in a horrible league is essentially what made them a winning team...ray rhodes defensive players didnt hurt either and andy has been pathetic re tooling the defense
all you need to do is look at andy player acquisitions for the last four years....the whiffs far outweigh the misses and its not just in drafting but in free agency as well
You guys crack me up. You go on and on about how bad Reid is at drafting, yet you think that a QB who Reid drafted in the second round has a shot.
Maybe my statement was a little IGY-esque, but I don't think that Reid has the talent evaluation skills to pick a franchise player in the second round. Reid has been drafting/signing players who are "good enough" - but not franchise players.
Mediocre talent + Mediocre coaching = Mediocre team that never gets over the hump. The question we have to ask is, does Joe Banner think the profits from getting over the hump will exceed the cost of doing it? I think it is probably more profitable to cycle from bad to good enough. It is cheaper and easier to go from a sub-500 team to a playoff team than it is to go from a playoff team to a super bowl team. However, you don't want to stay at the same level too long, or the natives get restless. So you tank every few years and tout the improvement as you work your way back to mediocrity.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 03, 2007, 10:10:04 AM
You guys crack me up. You go on and on about how bad Reid is at drafting, yet you think that a QB who Reid drafted in the second round has a shot.
Maybe my statement was a little IGY-esque, but I don't think that Reid has the talent evaluation skills to pick a franchise player in the second round. Reid has been drafting/signing players who are "good enough" - but not franchise players.
Mediocre talent + Mediocre coaching = Mediocre team that never gets over the hump. The question we have to ask is, does Joe Banner think the profits from getting over the hump will exceed the cost of doing it? I think it is probably more profitable to cycle from bad to good enough. It is cheaper and easier to go from a sub-500 team to a playoff team than it is to go from a playoff team to a super bowl team. However, you don't want to stay at the same level too long, or the natives get restless. So you tank every few years and tout the improvement as you work your way back to mediocrity.
You're an idiot. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. Reid drafted Westbrook, Trent Cole, and Omar Gaither, didn't he?
Just because Reid's drafting abilities are called into question (and rightfully so) doesn't mean a player he drafts automatically sucks. That makes zero logical sense.
I admit it isn't logical - just cynical.
Amusing that I have both you and IGY defending an unproven Reid/Heckert draft pick.
I'm not defending Kolbsy at all.
I just find it amusing that anyone is either condemning Kolb to a career of ineptitude and/or praising Hunt as part of a 3-headed monster. Neither player has proved anything, positive or negative.
Quote from: PPinDC on October 03, 2007, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 03, 2007, 08:54:02 AM
No. But the option of resignation HAS to become more and more realistic as the season falls apart.
For serious.
God, that would be great. At this point, is there a list of who would replace him? I've heard Parcells, Gruden and Cowher. With the way Tampa is playing in that division, they may make the playoffs, so Gruden might not be available. Parcells......I doubt highly, and I doubt Cowher as well, as he is going to want HUGE money and total control. We could pick up Norv Turner next week. That would be supertastic.
You guys are deluding yourself.
If Andy Reid steps down, the next head coach is already on the sidelines.
He is just as arrogant, has produced far less results, and has name rhymes with Schmorningweg.
Three guesses as to who it is.
Troy McClure?
Peter Griffin?
Mickey Mouse?
I hope its Peter Griffin. He had experience with the Patriots.
I'm in the minority who hopes Reid gets his head straight with his kids and stays with the Eagles.
Just the minority in these parts. I'm sure there are a lot of Reid fans still out there.
QuoteReid drafted Westbrook, Trent Cole, and Omar Gaither, didn't he?
whats even more amazing is that 3/4 of this board was blasting Omar Gaither profusely before he had a couple of REGULAR SEASON games...unreal
who was?
I was. I blasted him with blistering mb smack talk. Like a fragmentation grenade of Omar hate all over the virtual landscape.
i dont recall a single person 'blasting' gaither....there were questions and frankly there still are as to whether he can be a full time mlb in the nfl...i need more than four games to make my judgement
What exactly has Gaither done except not be a failure?
Is that our measure personnell sucess, not being an obvious mistake?
Quote from: methdeez on October 05, 2007, 01:03:03 PM
What exactly has Gaither done except not be a failure?
Is that our measure personnell sucess, not being an obvious mistake?
Sadly, yes.
Quote from: methdeez on October 05, 2007, 01:03:03 PM
What exactly has Gaither done except not be a failure?
Is that our measure personnell sucess, not being an obvious mistake?
9 starts into a players' football career... what else do you want?
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 05, 2007, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: methdeez on October 05, 2007, 01:03:03 PM
What exactly has Gaither done except not be a failure?
Is that our measure personnell sucess, not being an obvious mistake?
9 starts into a players' football career... what else do you want?
Tackles, sacks, interceptions and forced fumbles.
Quote from: methdeez on October 05, 2007, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 05, 2007, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: methdeez on October 05, 2007, 01:03:03 PM
What exactly has Gaither done except not be a failure?
Is that our measure personnell sucess, not being an obvious mistake?
9 starts into a players' football career... what else do you want?
Tackles, sacks, interceptions and forced fumbles.
Wow...you're right...Gaither hasn't done any of those things. At all.
Yup... I guess that was a mirage that stepped in front of Shockey this past sunday night and picked off Eli.
he has no sacks, no ff's and is averaging 4.5 tackles per game.
My overall point is that his mediocrity or invisibilty is being taken as a sign of success, which is a sad comment on our lowered expectations at linebacker.
So, suck it.
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Status Report
OUT
S Brian Dawkins (neck)
DOUBTFUL
WR Greg Lewis (ankle)
QUESTIONABLE
CB Lito Sheppard (knee), TE L.J. Smith (hernia)
PROBABLE
G Todd Herremans (knee), T Tra Thomas (knee), RB Brian Westbrook (abdomen)
Acceptable. Mikell is good enough for the Jets, Glew can suck moose cock. The rest should play, and at least be good enough to win.
Maybe.
anyone else feel like they are gonna miss g lew's speed and his ability to stretch the field?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2007, 10:31:10 PM
anyone else feel like they are gonna miss g lew's speed and his ability to stretch the field?
He's only doubtful, I still hold out some hope that he can suit up on Sunday. Probably the only chance the Birds have to win.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2007, 10:31:10 PM
anyone else feel like they are gonna miss g lew's speed and his ability to stretch the field?
I thought that was Curtis' job. Anyway, Brown is deceptively fast. Spadaro said so, so it must be true.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2007, 10:31:10 PM
anyone else feel like they are gonna miss g lew's speed and his ability to stretch the field?
No.
Doubtful
Brian Dawkins (neck)
L.J. Smith (hernia) -- playing him last week was clearly a great idea
Questionable
William Thomas (knee)
Probable
Shawn Andrews (knee)
Reggie Brown (finger)
Brent Celek (ankle)
Todd Herremans (knee)
Lito Sheppard (knee)
Jon Runyan (glute)
Kimo von Oelhoffen (knee)
Here's the story: (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3070678)
QuotePHILADELPHIA -- Eagles starting right tackle Jon Runyan sat out practice Friday after bruising his tailbone in a training room fall, but believes he will make his 184th consecutive start Sunday against Chicago.
Runyan, who was moving gingerly in the locker room Friday, said he slipped while getting into a tub following Thursday's practice and landed on the tub's edge.
Asked how he felt Friday afternoon, Runyan said "not good."
"The most comfortable position is standing, put it that way," he said.
uhhhh ok
Come get some of big Jon Runyan
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According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, "it seems unlikely" that Brian Dawkins (neck) will return in Week 8.
"I know if I go in there and stick my head into something the way I know I can or will, I'm probably going to feel the effects of it," Dawkins said. "I know I would right now. I don't want to go in and do something to my neck in that region that is going to have this thing reoccur again, and I'm right back on the shelf again. That makes no sense to me."
The fact that he sounds so confident about re-injuring this "stinger", only tells me that he might not be back for quite a while.
What the farg did this guy do to his neck? I mean... I had a stinger there twice in my life. Once from wrestling in high school, the other from trying to muff dive in the dark. I was back in 2 days no sweat. Suck it up Dawk.
you're not really comparing a stinger from high school wrestling to an injury sustained from a NFL football game, are you?
cmon Mo, dont lose me now buddy
well, i did use a question mark
i'm really starting to wonder if dawk is done. :-[
dawk has one year left on his deal and his last year on the birds will be 08...i just hope in the offseason he announces his 09 retirement so the fans and media can give him the proper send off next year rather than him leaving and playing in carolina his final season
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2007, 02:41:01 PM
dawk has one year left on his deal and his last year on the birds will be 08...i just hope in the offseason he announces his 09 retirement so the fans and media can give him the proper send off next year rather than him leaving and playing in carolina washington his final season
Oh snap
I'd rather them resign him. Life long contract. Play here until he retires or dies.
B-Dawk for head coach?
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 24, 2007, 03:11:52 PM
B-Dawk for head coach? B-Dawk's head is going to fall off
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 24, 2007, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2007, 02:41:01 PM
dawk has one year left on his deal and his last year on the birds will be 08...i just hope in the offseason he announces his 09 retirement so the fans and media can give him the proper send off next year rather than him leaving and playing in carolina washington his final season
Oh snap
i wanted to go there...i really did...but with the gawd st and landry it didnt make much sense
Since when has signing a big name past his prime had to make sense for Danny Snyder to do it?
todays injury report
dawkins dnp due to personal reasons
runyan dnp broken ass
takeo dnp shoulder
lito limited practice knee
lj smith full practice
tra thomas full practice
Anyone else get a throbber when they turned on Madden 08 to hear Dawk say "Can ya'll feel this? That dog gone thing betin' inside yo chest?" Man that is the shtein just like him.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 24, 2007, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2007, 02:41:01 PM
dawk has one year left on his deal and his last year on the birds will be 08...i just hope in the offseason he announces his 09 retirement so the fans and media can give him the proper send off next year rather than him leaving and playing in carolina washington his final season
Oh snap
:-D
dawk practiced in full today
as did takeo
broken ass sat out again
Good.
Good.
Crap.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 24, 2007, 03:11:52 PM
B-Dawk for head coach?
gee thanks, i just had to go change my shorts.
just thinking of bdawk giving one of his pregame speeches in a polo shirt, sideline cap and headsets around his neck made me funny inside.
Doubtful
Brian Dawkins (neck)
Questionable
Jon Runyan (ass)
Sean Considine (ankle)
Probable
Takeo Spikes (shoulder)
Lito Sheppard (knee)
Brent Celek (ankle)
L.J. Smith (hernia)
William Thomas (knee)
Week 9
Questionable
Jason Avant (groin)
Probable
Jon Runyan (ass)
William James (foot)
Reggie Brown (neck)
Brent Celek (ankle)
Sean Considine (ankle)
Brian Dawkins (neck)
Greg Lewis (Hoyda)
Lito Sheppard (knee)
Jevon Kearse (everything)
Considine shoulder injury
Sheppard reinjured his knee
Like it matters. Sheppard was invisible anyway, like much of the defense. How is losing Considine bad? We could play better with 10 guys on the field.
Let everyone play to avoid the season sweep to the skins, then just start IR'ing and rest up for next season.
I missed Lito going down, was it bad?
Lito - MCL sprain, MRI came back normal
Runayn - ass still broke, sore
Considine - MRI on shoulder today, OB/GYN to examine his vagina tomorrow
Quote from: SunMo on November 05, 2007, 12:04:07 PM
Considine - OB/GYN to examine his vagina tomorrow
I predict it will be gaping and sour with pus.
considine benched for the year (aka put on the ir)
the quentin mikell era begins. whoray!
So, who are the backup safeties now? Seriously, I can't think of who the dime back on this team is now.
pashcal will get run now
do they have a safety on ps....if not they will sign one
jesus
move my boy akeem jordan back to safety. kids got game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2007, 10:54:07 AM
pashcal will get run now
do they have a safety on ps....if not they will sign one
Erick Harris.
Also, Marques Murrell (high-motor DE) was signed off the PS to the Jets' active roster.
chris cooley is gonna go bazerk this week
(http://www.thirdpresbyterian.org/music/images/youthcd.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2007, 11:01:29 AM
chris cooley is gonna go bazerk this week
I hope so. FLOWERING FLATULENCE HOLLA
Interesting how these sort of injuries always seem to occur right around the time one of Reid's house boys is about to be sent packing from the starting lineup.
Whatever, though. Good riddance to that piece of shtein.
^^^^
that
and it happens three days after dawks first game back...meaning they wanted to see if he could make it thru healthy...and once he did bye bye POS hack safety
So, we're basically agreed the injury is probably not serious or completely phony, and it's really just a way of benching an ineffective player without admitting they made a mistake, right?
Does it matter what the truth is about this injury? The perception is that he sucked so they're creating a phantom injury thereby removing all need for them to admit that they sold us a pile of shtein. Perception s reality.
farg this team.
QuoteSo, we're basically agreed the injury is probably not serious or completely phony, and it's really just a way of benching an ineffective player without admitting they made a mistake, right?
so we should see 3/4 of the offense and defense starters benched?
Quote from: reese125 on November 07, 2007, 11:58:16 AM
QuoteSo, we're basically agreed the injury is probably not serious or completely phony, and it's really just a way of benching an ineffective player without admitting they made a mistake, right?
so we should see 3/4 of the offense and defense starters benched?
...not if they don't think they have someone on the bench or PS that might be able to do a better job.
human backpack considine. what a Hoyda. i'd say this almost guarantees we pick a db w/our first pick. with it's s or a cb and people speculating brown goes to s, whatever. we put backpack in for his covering ability, has one pick and single handedly given up 2 touchdowns, one for the game winner, the last two games. not to mention when he makes a tackle, it's only a matter of time before that pus gets on IR.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2007, 11:01:29 AM
chris cooley is gonna go bazerk this week
What? Like COnsidine had a hope in even coming close to him? ::)
wait i thought considine was a good cover guy?
thats why they got rid of lewis
everyone
including you
told me this
No homeboy. Only that Lewis couldn't cover.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2007, 12:52:59 PM
wait i thought considine was a good cover guy?
thats why they got rid of lewis
everyone
including you
told me this
what you
hear
and
what people
actually
say
are often
two
entirely
different things
Quote from: Diomedes on November 07, 2007, 12:56:36 PM
No homeboy
yes hoss
the company line by everyone was...lewis better in run d considine better in pass d
and that considine was better at stopping the run than lewis was at stopping the pass so the eagles were coming out on top in the trade off
anyway i take offense at getting the evil eye roll simply because its so easy to jump on the hate considine bangwagon now when i tried to tell her the day he was drafted that he sucked at everything
ANOTHER CONSIDINE/LEWIS DEBATE! YES!
Comparing the "qualities" of Considine and Lewis is like arguing over which bucket of piss is the warmest. For the sake of argument let's just say that Lewis was less lousy and move on because neither one of them will likely ever play another down for the Eagles.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2007, 12:52:59 PM
wait i thought considine was a good cover guy?
thats why they got rid of lewis
everyone
including you
told me this
I would have said more to the fact htat Considine was a better OPTION (unknown option) than Lewis since we knew Lewis couldn't cover worth a shtein.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 07, 2007, 01:25:45 PM
neither one of them will likely ever play another down for the Eagles.
You wish. Considine could very well be starting in week 1 next year.
If Reid goes into next season with Considine starting then he should not only be fired, he should be outright assassinated.
BTW: I remember IGY railing on about Considine so I did a quick search and found this nugget...
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 28, 2005, 06:37:25 PM
notice heckert said big time player not big time safety
translation: considine will be a very good special teamer for a long time
you must also remember that heckert would never publicly say something negative about one of his picks
trust me on this one...considine not an nfl starter...EVER
:-D
Quote from: rjs246 on November 07, 2007, 10:48:12 AM
So, who are the backup safeties now? Seriously, I can't think of who the dime back on this team is now.
Unless they dropped JR Reed when Dawk was reactivated, I'm pretty sure he's still on the roster.
If they cut him, they'll probably resign him. Again.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 07, 2007, 01:21:23 PM
ANOTHER CONSIDINE/LEWIS DEBATE! YES!
season is
now officially over.
they still have reed but hes a cripple and i cant imagine him getting any significant playing time...he cant play safety now and he has no future...so why run him out there....i dont think paschal or any other guy has a long term future at starting safety but you never know...where as with reed you do know exactly what you have...plus you might find yourself a quality back up
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2007, 02:10:04 PM
they still have reed but hes a cripple and i cant imagine him getting any significant playing time...he cant play safety now and he has no future...so why run him out there....i dont think paschal or any other guy has a long term future at starting safety but you never know...where as with reed you do know exactly what you have...plus you might find yourself a quality back up
Eh, I wouldn't mind giving him a look at safety if someone gets hurt. This season's done so might as well try everyone and everything.
Mikell officially the starter (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=14384)
Dawkins obviously likes the move.
Also, every player not on IR practiced yesterday. That's "good", right?
Questionable
Brian Westbrook (knee) - uh ohs
Probable
Jason Avant (groin)
Jon Dorenbos (abdomen)
William James (inability to cover James Thrash)
Mike Patterson (ankle)
Kevin Curtis (thigh)
Why not run Tony Hunt like mad and give Westbrook a breather?
I guess I'm a cynic, but questions like that just don't mean anything as long as Reid is calling the shots. I can't even begin to discuss them, because Reid is Satan.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 16, 2007, 07:46:58 PM
I guess I'm a cynic, but questions like that just don't mean anything as long as Reid is calling the shots. I can't even begin to discuss them, because Reid is Satan.
Isn't God traditionally more hard headed? Isn't Satan more cavalier? We can discuss the fact that you are calling Reid Satan.
I'm speaking figuratively. But I would argue that Reid is pretty farging cavalier. He's not of the flaunting variety, but his brazen refusal to alter course is downright Bush-like.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 16, 2007, 08:08:38 PM
I'm speaking figuratively. But I would argue that Reid is pretty farging cavalier. He's not of the flaunting variety, but his brazen refusal to alter course is downright Bush-like.
Hey man, he was willing to put JR Reed back there on kickoffs, and you'll notice that the Eagles won that game. The surge is working.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2007, 07:28:41 PM
Why not run Tony Hunt like mad and give Westbrook a breather?
eagles arent good enough to be sitting their best player out replacing him with an unknown rookie and banking on a win
Perhaps not, but really...what do they have to lose? The season being what it is, why risk your only superstar's long term health for a chance to beat Miami in a losing season?
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 16, 2007, 06:11:15 PM
Questionable
Brian Westbrook (knee) - uh ohs
Probable
Jason Avant (groin)
Jon Dorenbos (abdomen)
William James (inability to cover James Thrash)
Mike Patterson (ankle)
Kevin Curtis (thigh)
That made me laugh.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 17, 2007, 10:08:33 AM
Perhaps not, but really...what do they have to lose? The season being what it is, why risk your only superstar's long term health for a chance to beat Miami in a losing season?
well he might as well sit the season out then.
we all know and can see that this team is not going to make it to the playoffs but the players and coaches prolly think otherwise. sitting him out this game would mean they give up on the season which i doubt reid would ever do.
if anything the patriots game should be treated like a bye week, not this one. don't want to be the team that loses to miami. losing to the patriots is expected and more acceptable.
Anyone who uses the 'word' prolly needs to be thrown into traffic.
If Reid wasn't such a farging icehole, Buckhalter was averaging over 5 yards a carry vs. NYG. They should have won that game running. icehole.
Im surprised dawk isnt on there at all
Quote from: rjs246 on November 17, 2007, 06:38:58 PM
Anyone who uses the 'word' prolly needs to be thrown into traffic.
your prolly right.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2007, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2007, 07:28:41 PM
Why not run Tony Hunt like mad and give Westbrook a breather?
eagles arent good enough to be sitting their best player out replacing him with an unknown rookie and banking on a win
Who said anything about "banking on a win"? Slow your roll.
cuts to my left knee and right wrist, swollen left ring finger.
its tough out on the turf, but ill be okay.
Peg-Leg JR Reed in there at SS (or Paschal) vs NE = :-D :-D :-D
donovan = ankle sprain mri showed swelling....not a high ankle sprain...."well see how he does and take it day by day"...also has a banged up thumb that andy says he is more worried about than the ankle...said he hurt it real early....sounds like a possible excuse to me
herremans = knee
mikell = mcl sprain day to day
gaither = back spasms
avant = knee
So then shouldn't the Cap'n Andy ensure Feeley gets reps with the first team this week?
Who knows yet if McNabb will play this week? All we really know is that McNabb had a negative X-ray and has a "banged up thumb," and trying to guess anything else wrong with him at this point would just be pure speculum.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 19, 2007, 11:07:11 PM
Who knows yet if McNabb will play this week? All we really know is that McNabb had a negative X-ray and has a "banged up thumb," and trying to guess anything else wrong with him at this point would just be pure speculum.
All I know is you can't spell fun without speculum.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 19, 2007, 11:07:11 PMwould just be pure speculum.
(http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/844/25012521.JPG)
You talking about speculums is the equivalent of me talking about you getting kicked in the balls.
Very hard.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 19, 2007, 11:10:43 PM
(http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/844/25012521.JPG)
If that isn't fun, I don't know what is.
I think that picture is anatomically incorrect. Isn't a woman's piss canal between the hoo-hoo and the donut hole?
It looks like that woman has a mini-vadge. Probably an appetizer?
Ahh, I think I see the problem here...yes, there's a Joe Banner Bobblehead doll stuck in there
I see the Eagles logo :-\
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 19, 2007, 11:31:04 PM
I see the Eagles logo :-\
If you look up the other hole, you'll see their gameplan.
you'll also see plenty of DNA from Ronde Barber, Ricky Manning JR, and Rodney Harrison
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3118896
Didn't see this posted. The article is nothing we haven't heard yet but I thought this little blurb was funny.
Quote"It's not a high-ankle sprain. Those are the ones that really take a lot of time," Reid said. "He wanted to be back out there. I wanted to make sure he can run. I don't want to put a guy out there that can't run and he didn't feel he can push off."
I want to be mad and scream and yell and kick babies but all I've been doing since reading this is laugh.
thats weird because mcnabb himself said that he knew he was done for the day and he couldnt go out and perform. in fact he said something about "i know what i can and can not do and i could not come out and play".
and of course more BS with "i do not want to put a guy in who can not run".
nm
Is anyone else curious if any ex eagle running backs got into an auto wreck last night?
Where would I find such info?
Right here.
Siran Stacy's family was killed in a car crash last night.
You heard it hear first, people.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 20, 2007, 01:58:52 PM
Right here.
Siran Stacy's family was killed in a car crash last night.
You heard it hear first, people.
:-D :-D :-D
I just love you guys to death.
McNabb is officially out (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3125457).
Is Brady's shoulder injury for real? Lies.
Little Donny would play if this was a playoff game or a game they could win.
Also, I believe this is the first game he is missing when not on IR.
Quote from: MDS on November 24, 2007, 01:22:06 PM
Also, I believe this is the first game he is missing when not on IR.
Off the top of my head, I remember the Week 17 game vs. the Bengals in 2004 that Koy started. Also, the year he broke his ankle, he was not on IR and came back for the playoffs.
I just looked into it, and McNabb wasn't on IR for the first game he missed in 2005 either.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 24, 2007, 12:21:22 PM
Is Brady's shoulder injury for real? Lies.
Hahahahahahahahahhaaha. He's been on the injury report for his shoulder every week for three plus years.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 24, 2007, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 24, 2007, 12:21:22 PM
Is Brady's shoulder injury for real? Lies.
Hahahahahahahahahhaaha. He's been on the injury report for his shoulder every week for three plus years.
Since September 2003.
Imagine how good Brady would be if his shoulder wasn't injured for the last 4 years. He'd be really, I mean really good.
Doubtful
Donovan McNabb (ankle/thumb)
Quintin Mikell (knee)
Questionable
Brodrick Bunkley (knee)
Probable
Brian Westbrook (knee)
William James (vadge)
Greg Lewis (chest)
Kevin Curtis (thigh)
DJ Hackett is out for the Seahawks, which is something for the Eagles to be happy about.
broderick bunkley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dj hackett
bunkley - to get mri on knee
lito - knee inflammation
donovan - should practice sat
mikell - day to day
andy came as close as ive ever seen him to blowing a gaskett in todays press conference...and overall hes been unusually snippy....the press is asking really good tough questions too
Examples?
i read on another board that he told a reporter to "open your ears"
Them's fightin' words!
les bowen asked him why in those conditions they chose to throw the ball over 40 times...andy snapped that they were trying to win the game but les youre gonna write what you write
In other words, Andy doesn't understand how to win football games.
Apparently when teams run the ball, that means they are attempting to lose.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 03, 2007, 02:34:30 PM
In other words, Andy doesn't understand how to win football games.
No. He only knows how to win them his way. He's the most stubborn motherfarger I've ever come across in sports. Everything about yesterday dictated that they run the ball yet he still passed it almost twice as many times as they ran it. You don't win that way with a backup quarterback. Hell, you rarely win that way with all cylinders firing.
That, alone, is why he should be sent packing. His asinine overreaction at the presser today proves once and for all that he takes being questioned personally as well and that's deadly considering he answers to no one in the organization. Not even Lurie.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 03, 2007, 07:05:06 PM
That, alone, is why he should be sent packing. His asinine overreaction at the presser today proves once and for all that he takes being questioned personally as well and that's deadly considering he answers to no one in the organization. Not even Lurie.
I'm on the Get-Andy-Out-Of-Town wagon, but the hypocrisy has to stop. Andy gets bashed for having no emotions and vanilla pressers, and he finally is getting pissed (and I personally think he's getting pissed about team performance and not because the press is being mean by asking hard questions), and now blasted for that? Choose a side, man, and stay on it.
I'm on whatever side results in Reid leaving. All bash all the time.
Amen. The guy farging up the most this season is Andy Reid. farg him and his temper tandrum.
Quote from: Father Demon on December 03, 2007, 07:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 03, 2007, 07:05:06 PM
That, alone, is why he should be sent packing. His asinine overreaction at the presser today proves once and for all that he takes being questioned personally as well and that's deadly considering he answers to no one in the organization. Not even Lurie.
I'm on the Get-Andy-Out-Of-Town wagon, but the hypocrisy has to stop. Andy gets bashed for having no emotions and vanilla pressers, and he finally is getting pissed (and I personally think he's getting pissed about team performance and not because the press is being mean by asking hard questions), and now blasted for that? Choose a side, man, and stay on it.
Thats because hes going to be judged again on whether hes a good coach. He reads
Some of them were very straight forward questions. He hates to be asked about his coaching decisions, feels like he can do no wrong (but he always does), and he never explains why he does what he does. I see plenty of coaches after a game explain why they did certain things on 3rd and this and 4th and that,and not be a bitch about it.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 03, 2007, 07:05:06 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 03, 2007, 02:34:30 PM
In other words, Andy doesn't understand how to win football games.
No. He only knows how to win them his way. He's the most stubborn motherfarger I've ever come across in sports. Everything about yesterday dictated that they run the ball yet he still passed it almost twice as many times as they ran it.
Wait... are you talking about Seattle this past week or Jacksonville in the tornado last year?
i think the weather was if not a non factor close to it on sunday...not fun to sit in and watch a game but it was not terrible to throw the ball in...there was no wind in the stadium....thats not to say he should have thrown it 45 times but he shouldnt have done that if it was 75 and sunny...and its not like seattle ran the ball down the eagles throats..altho not as much as the eagles they still passed significantly more than they ran...
the difference is that seattle had mo morris and a non effective shawn alexander while the eagles had at rb arguably the second best player (non qb) in the nfl and a back up qb...not to mention the qb matchup of matt hasselback vs aj feely
the jacksonville game was totally different...the wind was off the meter
Disagree somewhat. I don't think the conditions should have been a deterrant to the passing game... but the freezing rain and subsequent conditions (slower routes, wet ball, etc.) should have served as a flag to point out to Andy that this was a game to lean on Westbrook and the running game... which is where we do agree. Westbrook's abilities not being tapped into more in a game like that is inexcusable. I agree that JAX was worse, but I was using that as an example that if Andy threw the ball in those conditions, he damn sure was going to let a freezing rain stop him this past weekend.
Les Bowen | FURTHER REVIEW: The bottom line - Birds need to let Westbrook run
by Les Bowen
Philadelphia Daily News
IT'S A head-scratcher, all right.
At his weekly postmortem news conference yesterday, Andy Reid noted that his team "struggled to sustain drives" in the second half of a crippling, 28-24 home loss to the Seattle Seahawks. Indeed, in the fourth quarter, I have the Eagles gaining 9, 6, 16 and 3 yards on their four possessions, ending with the Lofa Tatupu interception that kept Brian Westbrook's 64-yard punt return from mattering.
Westbrook is the only difference-maker the Eagles currently employ, a view that now has even been embraced by the team's official Web site. Yet the punt return was one of very few chances he had down the stretch to win the game - Westbrook carried three times on those
final four series, for 11 yards. He caught two passes, for 4 yards.
Meanwhile, four passes went to Kevin Curtis, two completed, for 12 yards. Two passes were aimed toward L.J. Smith (including the infamous down-the-sideline long toss on third-and-1). None completed. A.J. Feeley scrambled for 4 yards, and was sacked while scrambling, for a loss of 1. Correll Buckhalter gained 4 yards on a draw. Two passes went toward Reggie Brown, including the final, fatal interception. Nothing came from those.
Westbrook carried the ball once, in the Eagles' final three series. So it really is puzzling, isn't it, why those drives weren't more successful. Gosh, who can say?
What's that? They could have run the ball a little more, given that all afternoon, defenders were slipping and sliding when they tried to react to cuts in the open field? Maybe if Westbrook can go out there for two fourth-quarter punts, and bring one of them back 64 yards, he might do something equally dangerous, if they handed him the ball a few more times?
"We were trying to win the football game the best way we could. If you think he should have run it more, then that's what you'll write, there, but we were trying to do what we needed to do to win the game at the time," Reid said when asked about that yesterday.
Reid opined that the only thing to do in the wake of defeat is "learn from your mistakes and move on," something this 5-7 season has afforded the Eagles bountiful opportunities to do. Yet Reid and his offensive coordinator, Marty Mornhinweg, don't seem to embrace the concept.
The Eagles point to successful teams such as New England and Indianapolis, even Green Bay, as examples of pass-based offenses that win (leaving aside the fact that the Patriots rank seventh in the league in rushing). They think this validates their approach. And it would if they had the quarterbacking and the weapons that those teams possess. But they don't, right now.
In terms of offensive talent right now, the Eagles are actually more like the middle-of-the-pack teams they are fighting against for a shred of wild-card hope. Like, say, the 8-4 Giants, who come to Lincoln Financial Field on Sunday with the league's sixth-ranked rushing attack
That's awful.
QuoteWestbrook is the only difference-maker the Eagles currently employ, a view that now has even been embraced by the team's official Web site. Yet the punt return was one of very few chances he had down the stretch to win the game - Westbrook carried three times on those
final four series, for 11 yards. He caught two passes, for 4 yards.
Meanwhile, four passes went to Kevin Curtis, two completed, for 12 yards. Two passes were aimed toward L.J. Smith (including the infamous down-the-sideline long toss on third-and-1). None completed. A.J. Feeley scrambled for 4 yards, and was sacked while scrambling, for a loss of 1. Correll Buckhalter gained 4 yards on a draw. Two passes went toward Reggie Brown, including the final, fatal interception. Nothing came from those.
Westbrook carried the ball once, in the Eagles' final three series. So it really is puzzling, isn't it, why those drives weren't more successful. Gosh, who can say?
Printed, cut out... and put into my wallet for the next time someone looks at me crazy when I mention that Andy needs to be fired.
they'll still look at you crazy for having that in your wallet...but i love the effort
Actually, he lives in Georgia... so very few people actually look him in the face anyway. And if they do look long enough to see his wallet, they'd assume it was stolen anyway.
The last three posts were farging gold.
Excellent work, ladies.
dawks back tightened up today causing him to miss most of practice....questionable for sunday
marcus paschal released
pat mccoy up from the ps
The full report:
Questionable
Brian Westbrook (knee)
Brian Dawkins (back)
Probable
Jason Avant (quad/groin)
Brodrick Bunkley (knee)
Kevin Curtis (thigh)
Donovan McNabb (ankle/thumb)
Quintin Mikell (knee)
Lito Sheppard (knee)
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 03:13:48 PM
dawks back tightened up today causing him to miss most of practice....questionable for sunday
marcus paschal released
pat mccoy up from the ps
So they release a safety after a safety's back tightens up. Good call. Because having Pat McCoy in street clothes is so important on Sunday. farging nitwits
well said
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 07, 2007, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 03:13:48 PM
dawks back tightened up today causing him to miss most of practice....questionable for sunday
marcus paschal released
pat mccoy up from the ps
So they release a safety after a safety's back tightens up. Good call. Because having Pat McCoy in street clothes is so important on Sunday. farging nitwits
Andy. Reid.
the dolphins tried to sign mccoy this week and he told them he wasnt interested that he wanted to stay in philly....you know that made the gold standard so happy that they rewarded him by putting him on the roster...just like they blackball people who appear as tho they dont wanna stay with the eagles
Put Patty McCoy at LT and see if he gives up fewer than 6 sacks to Umeniyora.
buck and lj both out for sunday
i feel a brent celek coming out party
Maybe Tony Hunt will touch the ball?
The full report:
Out
Correll Buckhalter (concussion)
L.J. Smith (knee)
Questionable
Brian Dawkins (back)
Jon Runyan (knee)
Probable
Reggie Brown (if he does play, would anyone know?)
Brian Westbrook (knee)
Mike Patterson (ankle)
Yeah, that was farging super. Westbrook matriculates the ball down the field on the ground. Comes out for a couple of plays while Hunt comes in on second and 3 and lo and behold, Andy goes apeshtein passing. This offense is atrocious.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 14, 2007, 06:12:08 PM
Reggie Brown (if he does play, would anyone know?)
Ha! I heart irony.
Reid says Spikes has a torn rotator cuff....not sure if he'll play through it or just get surgery and end the season
Andrews is OK
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 17, 2007, 12:49:50 PM
Reid says Spikes has a torn rotator cuff....not sure if he'll play through it or just get surgery and end the season
Andrews is OK
Good news that Andrews is okay.
But Spikes...ouch.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2007, 02:07:43 PM
buck and lj both out for sunday
i feel a brent celek coming out party
Brent Celek - 3 rec, 50 yards
Terrell Owens - 2 rec, 37 yards
I guess Celek had his popcorn ready.
Spikes should stop playing this year and heal.
There's a joke in there somewhere. Maybe something about his vagina healing or something.
I'll get back to you if SunMo doesn't take the opening first (another vagina joke possible there!).
Andrews and LJ are out for Sunday
Schobel is doubtful
Scott Young starting in his place?
MJG!
The Eagles don't play the Saints after this for another 2 years. By the time Andrews gets his shot at revenge... he won't even remember why he's so heated.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 22, 2007, 04:02:31 PM
The Eagles don't play the Saints after this for another 2 years. By the time Andrews gets his shot at revenge... he won't even remember why he's so heated.
NFC Championship game next year. NFL MVP Reggie Bush and defensive Pro Bowler Hollis Thomas face off against newly-acquired free agent Randy Moss and second-year QB sensation Kevin Kolb, filling in for the injured Donovan McNabb.
Well, at least one part was realistic.
Which part? Only realistic thing you said is that there will be a NFC Championship game next year.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 22, 2007, 06:02:53 PM
Which part? Only realistic thing you said is that there will be a NFC Championship game next year.
The part with McNabb injured.
oh, well yeah.
there will be an NFC Championship game, and there will also be a McNabb injury. this much we know.