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The rotation
A.J. Feeley will relieve quarterback Donovan McNabb at some point in the first half, and rookie Kevin Kolb will enter the game at some point in the second half, the Eagles said.
Sav Rocca will handle the punting and holding duties in the first half and Dirk Johnson will take over in the second half. Jason Avant will be the primary third receiver with the first-team offense, and Reid hopes to get a look at rookie Tony Hunt in short-yardage situations.
Rookie tight end Brent Celek will also get a chance to run with the first-team offense after an impressive debut against the Ravens.
- Bob Brookover
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Game Two: Questions That Need Answers
The starters are going to play more. The second preseason game is going to have a touch more significance – make that much more significance – on the heels of the result from Monday night. Yes, Donovan McNabb is back in the spotlight, back under center, back to being the man, but there are other things to watch and evaluate against the Panthers.
Let's examine some of those stories now ...
The Run Defense
That Willis McGahee 16-yard run keeps knocking around in the brain, doesn't it? It was a simple stretch play to the left side of the Eagles defense and the edge wasn't contained and McGahee squeezed through the hole for a big gain. How many times are teams going to test the Eagles on that run, the same one that killed the defense in Indianapolis last season?
Carolina runs the ball very well with DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo Williams. The Panthers have a big, strong line. Philadelphia must step up and stop the run. It comes down to the front four and the linebackers. The Eagles rebuilt the front seven in the off-season and now they have to start to see the rewards in game situations.
I'm still watching the middle linebacker situation. Teams are going to make Jeremiah Trotter run sideline to sideline and prove he still has legs. Second-year man Omar Gaither has not challenged Trotter for playing time or the starting job.
Controlling The Line Of Scrimmage On Offense
Julius Peppers, Kris Jenkins and Mike Rucker form three-quarters of an outstanding defensive line. It is a great challenge for an Eagles offensive line that struggled on Monday night. The Eagles are still without Shawn Andrews at right guard, so look for some extended time for Max Jean-Gilles and Scott Young. They both need to step up.
Carolina doesn't blitz as much as Baltimore, but the Panthers generate a lot of pressure. The Eagles have to play much, much better up front to protect Donovan McNabb and to get the running game going.
The Eagles know they have one of the best lines in football. It didn't shape up that way on Monday night, so the rebound date is this game.
Steve Smith Vs. The Cornerbacks
Quick, shifty and a superb route runner, Smith is one of the most dangerous receivers in all of football. He is an excellent matchup for the now-healthy Lito Sheppard, and it will also be interesting to see how Sheldon Brown and Will James work against Smith.
Carolina has a few interesting receivers, but none cut from the same cloth as Smith. He is so incredibly explosive, and while the Eagles aren't likely to throw many sophisticated coverages out there in a preseason game, they want to find a way to contain Smith.
Return Game: Bloom And His Chances
After a promising debut, Jeremy Bloom comes back for a second opportunity. The Eagles would love to see him get some return chances in this game and they need to see the spark in his legs. Bloom has the giddy-up. Now it's time to go.
The Eagles didn't have much explosiveness in the return game last year and they are encouraged by the early work from Bloom. He shrugged off a toe injury on Monday and now has fresh, bouncy legs. It should be interesting to see how he responds.
The New Starters: Bunkley And Gocong
Feedback from the coaching staff regarding these two players has been nothing but positive from Monday night. Brodrick Bunkley was clearly the Eagles' best defensive linemen and Chris Gocong had an pretty good debut at linebacker.
Now ...
Bunkley and Gocong figure to play most of the first half. They need to be consistent their reads and they have to provide a high energy level. They have to play smart football.
Carolina won't do a lot of fancy stuff, but the Panthers are going to move people around a bit and give the Eagles some things to think about. Bunkley and Gocong are on the spot.
Punter's Duel: Part Two
You've got to give both Dirk Johnson and Sav Rocca credit for kicking at such a high level. They have responded to the challenge of the competition for sure.
Rocca has yet to hold in a game, so the Eagles need to see him do that. Don't be surprised to see him handle the first half of punting and work with David Akers on field goals.
Are you scoring at home in this battle? Johnson probably has a slight edge based on his punting in training camp and in the preseason games. Rocca has been outstanding, too. The Eagles, who usually cut a punter after the third preseason game, may have to wait until the final waiver period to settle on a punter.
Bubble Boys: Pushing Ahead
Players like linebacker Akeem Jordan, cornerbacks Rashad Barksdale and Nick Graham, defensive tackle Jeremy Clark, safety Marcus Paschall and running back Nate Ilaoa are going to play and they will look to impress the coaching staff again.
There are only 53 spots on the final roster and the Eagles are going to have some tough calls at several positions like linebacker, safety, cornerback and the defensive line between now and September.
Quarterback Kelly Holcomb, impressive on Monday night, isn't part of the rotation this week and won't play.
Everyone else, though, is fair game. There are plenty of questions and Game 2 is going to help answer some of them.
Odd that they aren't allowing Holcomb to play, figured they would want to showcase him a bit against second and/or third team defense to generate some trade interest. Maybe someones already knocking? Also, Rocca doing the punting work in the first half.....does he have the upper hand on Dirk?
wow, that run by westbrook was sick.
But Matty, the game hasn't started. You're silly.
Gawd Barksdale will have 4 picks... in the first quarter.
i dont think anyone is trading for holcomb cause they know the eagles have to cut him and theres limited interest for him to begin with
can someone post the media info where they give the satelitte coordinates...im trying to find a place in DC to watch the game
Friday, August 17, 2007
6ABC-ETN, 7:00 PM ET
Radio: 94.1 FM WYSP Radio
Sirius: Channel 140
Satellite: Gal 26 (IA-6)/C11 93 W Transponder C11
thank you kind sir
arent sirius and xm the same now?...my girl gets xm in her whip...so will the game be on there?
There is a crappy little sports bar in Leesburg, Va that I think is showing it.
Bunker Sports Cafe is the name.
And yes, it sucks.
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 17, 2007, 08:57:06 AM
Leesburg, Va
NO
espn zone in dc will have it i just wanted the numbers so i can tell them how to get it cause usually their satelite guy is a moron
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2007, 08:54:58 AM
thank you kind sir
arent sirius and xm the same now?...my girl gets xm in her whip...so will the game be on there?
they aren't sharing content yet
Anyone else going? There's an outside chance I'll have an extra ticket.
And bring extra $$$$ if you're planning on parking at the linc:
QuoteCost of parking up $9The cost of parking for Eagles games at Lincoln Financial Field has been increased from $11 to $20 this season, starting with tonight's exhibition game against the Carolina Panthers.
The parking increase includes all lots in the sports complex, which cover about 22,000 parking spaces.
Though the 82 percent increase is substantial, the Eagles' new price is not out of line with what is being charged in many other NFL cities. The Chicago Bears charge $40 for parking, the New England Patriots $35, the Cincinnati Bengals $31, the Washington taterskins and Green Bay Packers $30, the Dallas Cowboys $23, $38 and $43, and the Baltimore Ravens $25.
- Bob Brookover
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2007, 08:54:58 AMarent sirius and xm the same now?...my girl gets xm in her whip...so will the game be on there?
The feds haven't approved the merger yet.
For those of us out of town, it looks like NFL Network will be repeating the game at 1pm on Saturday.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2007, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 17, 2007, 08:57:06 AM
Leesburg, Va
NO
espn zone in dc will have it i just wanted the numbers so i can tell them how to get it cause usually their satelite guy is a moron
The Hooters in downtown DC (about 3 blocks from the convention center) gets a great crowd. I have seen most of the draft there the last two years on bus. trips. You should have seen the place when Miami took the OSU wide receiver with the 12th pick this year..people on the floor!.. LMAO. Haven't been to espn zone but will check it out next trip :yay
9th pick. All the better.
I really wish there was some way to get rid of the delay with WYSP... Monday night was by far the worst its ever been
UPDATES PPL! UPDATES!
Mcnabb looks incredible! ... 58 yard pass to schobel to the one. Tony Hunt Td!... Sav rocca had a decent hold on the first drive for akers fg... the d looks great... welcome back birds
let me reitterate that the d looks great!
man bloom needs to learn to run upfield... he's dancing side to side WAY to much
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2007, 07:21:38 PM
UPDATES PPL! UPDATES!
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/HomepageMonday.asp?game_id=2
Bloom looks scared out there, IMO.
i'm a little surprised they've been replacing Bunkley on passing downs
Ummm...why does the Eagles d-line look so good? Bunkley is getting all sorts of deep in the backfield on pretty much every snap.
Killa and Patterson notch sacks......gamecenter sucks. Mad as hell I can't watch
QuoteWestbrook took the handoff on first down, jitterbugged before he was stopped for no gain.
(http://www.afterelton.com/archive/elton/people/2005/photos/george%20michael/wham.jpg)
Who's writing this garbage?
I'm just watching the beginning of the game now on DVR. At the beginning of the game, they interviewed Dwayne Jarrett and he was wearing a Phillies hat.
Akers good on a 52 yarder? Damn nice to read that.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 17, 2007, 08:07:33 PM
QuoteWestbrook took the handoff on first down, jitterbugged before he was stopped for no gain.
(http://www.afterelton.com/archive/elton/people/2005/photos/george%20michael/wham.jpg)
Who's writing this garbage?
man the 80's sucked!
Quote from: Diomedes on August 17, 2007, 08:11:05 PM
Akers good on a 52 yarder? Damn nice to read that.
Especially with the hold from Rocca. Bye-bye, Dirk.
Rocca's punt average is 50 in three attempts. Jesus the kickers are having fun at least.
Akers good on a 52 yarder? Damn nice to read that.
just think of how nice it was to kick it
Celek = Manbearpig
Looks like they seriously might've gotten lucky with him, and thank god for it with L.J going down again. Trent Cole and Brent Celek means that the Eagles should forever draft from Cincinatti.
Baskett gets em down to the goal line again.....where's Hunt?
Does Feeley look as good as the numbers on gamecenter would have me believe?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 17, 2007, 08:18:47 PM
Does Feeley look as good as the numbers on gamecenter would have me believe?
Dio, are you using NFL's Gamecenter?
Yeah
HUNT! Two TDs!
espn game center is no better.
is the score 24-0 or 17-0? It showed 17-0 halftime now i see 24-0?
The Panthers announcers are jizzing all over Westbrook. They just said he's the best all-around back in the NFL, save for LaDainian Tomlinson.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 17, 2007, 08:24:17 PM
The Panthers announcers are jizzing all over Westbrook. They just said he's the best all-around back in the NFL, save for LaDainian Tomlinson.
After last years performance, I'd have to agree.
Eiher the defense is playing absolutely lights out, or Delhomme isn't going to be the opening day starter. 5/12 42 yards and a pick on the half. Yikes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 17, 2007, 08:24:17 PM
The Panthers announcers are jizzing all over Westbrook. They just said he's the best all-around back in the NFL, save for LaDainian Tomlinson.
The latter bit is a little much, but people ought to jizz all over him. He's farging awesome.
Seriously....as an "all around running back" who, after L.T., is better in the league right now?
I know this much..with apologies to Dawkins, Westbrook is the star of this team. McNabb doesn't have it when Westbrook does, it's that simple.
im so pissed right now...last week that sopcast crap didnt work so i didnt even want to try today.
i just happen to turn it and they are showing the game and its actually streaming. missed a lot of the mcnabb action but saw lito return the INT for the td!
Link to the Sopcast shtein?
Damn this works great. Dio, you gotta get on this.
Brent Celek did not pass the look test, but he's passing the on-field tests so far.
He's already more valuable than multiple black guys on the team, especially Barksdale.
It's taken less than two pre season games for you to put Celek on the all cracker team. That's special.
Quote from: PPinDC on August 17, 2007, 08:47:08 PM
Damn this works great. Dio, you gotta get on this.
I have the volume down mainly because of Dave Spadaro. :poison
Maybe for the next game. I'm afraid of the Internets/NFL police coming to take me away for stealing their precious product
i really hope it works during the season. cause right not its great but last week i wasnt getting anything.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 17, 2007, 08:24:01 PM
espn game center is no better.
is the score 24-0 or 17-0? It showed 17-0 halftime now i see 24-0?
24-3, 3Q
Akers lining up for another FG after Bloom got planted on his back after a catch
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6/9, almost 138 yds passing
Kolb almost got Bloom killed. Tough little bastich though, popped right back up and held on to the ball.
51 yds perfect....27-3
does anybody know why the quarterbacks have that green sticker on the back of their helmets?
Quote from: SunMo on August 17, 2007, 09:06:21 PM
does anybody know why the quarterbacks have that green sticker on the back of their helmets?
New thing. Shows the refs which players have radios in their helmets.
nm
Quote from: PPinDC on August 17, 2007, 09:05:24 PM
Kolb almost got Bloom killed. Tough little bastich though, popped right back up and held on to the ball.
Kolb was way behind him on that pass. Bloom toughed up and took it like a real man. Like Barksdale.
Quote from: PPinDC on August 17, 2007, 09:07:51 PM
Quote from: SunMo on August 17, 2007, 09:06:21 PM
does anybody know why the quarterbacks have that green sticker on the back of their helmets?
New thing. Shows the refs which players have radios in their helmets.
how is it different from last year? i thought only the quarterbacks could
Some teams put 2 QBs out on the field at the same time, (Falcons did this, Steelers used to do it with Kordell Stewart lining up at RB or WR) but since each team is only allowed one headset on the field, that poses a problem for the refs. NFL now requres a green sticker on any helmet with a headset, so that the refs can tell who has one and who doesn't.
makes sense...thank you
So it appears the Eagles in fact are not the worst team in the league. I guess I'll watch it tomorrow.
The Minnesota - Jets game is on here and Adrian Peterson had a 40+ yard TD run. Plus, anyone who remembers Chad Greenway (and said he'd be the awful worst possible pick two years ago) has 5 tackles and a pick.
Also, for that new green sticker stuff, they only allow one player with a headset on the field at a time. Stupid as shtein.
Nice play by Victor "the Golden Domer" Abiamiri
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 17, 2007, 09:07:56 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on August 17, 2007, 09:05:24 PM
Kolb almost got Bloom killed. Tough little bastich though, popped right back up and held on to the ball.
Kolb was way behind him on that pass. Bloom toughed up and took it like a real man. Like Barksdale.
he also adjusted real well to the ball.
btw can anyone tell how much the delay, if any, is on the sopcast stream?
why do the refs need to know who has a headset or not?
Who is this icehole talking to Ike? He makes up for the stupid questions when he calls Spadaro "Spuds".
Abiamiri just chased Carr all the way across the field and tripped Carr up for a sack. Hell of a motor. :yay
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2007, 09:12:53 PMwhy do the refs need to know who has a headset or not?
are you serious?
Quote from: PPinDC on August 17, 2007, 09:13:04 PM
Abiamiri just chased Carr all the way across the field and tripped Carr up for a sack. Hell of a motor. :yay
calm down
Quote from: SunMo on August 17, 2007, 09:18:00 PM
calm down
Point taken.
Ha. Chris Roberson just hit a ball into the outfield and for a second didn't know what to do......it went foul.
celek has looked pretty good 2 games in a row.
watch him get injured next week and be out for the yr.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2007, 09:12:53 PM
btw can anyone tell how much the delay, if any, is on the sopcast stream?
Gamecast is faster than it...
Quote from: Diomedes on August 17, 2007, 08:56:22 PM
It's taken less than two pre season games for you to put Celek on the all cracker team. That's special.
The all cracker team isn't exactly elite company in the game of football.
Barksdale just whiffed on the RB coming out of the backfield.
Celek >>> Barksdale
Barksdale almost gets the pick 6! Returns it for 40 yards, but outran his blockers....
Celek > Barksdale
Outran his blockers? Pff... rookies.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 17, 2007, 09:58:10 PM
Celek > Barksdale
Ha.
SunMo gets a shout out from Spads.
Ilaoa seriously farging sucks. Looks like he *walks* up to the line, finds a Panther, and smashes into the front of him.
i farged his wife...he was giving me credit
Spads was explaining the green sticker bit.
can we never talk about the green stickers again....please
anyone notice the green stickers?
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2007, 10:17:41 PM
anyone notice the green stickers?
No, but I heard they're green and sticky.
why didn't Kearse play?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2007, 10:46:20 PM
why didn't Kearse play?
Knee swelled last night. Kept him out because of it. "He'll be fine," says Reid
So.... Has the sky officially stopped falling or has it only slowed down a bit. I guess this is Philly so it'll start falling again soon.
Not being able to see the game how'd the O' line look. Scott Young was out so how'd max do or whomever.
If Andrews is out, Reid will definitely be as pass-happy as he was before the McNabb injury last year really proved that the team was better with a balanced attack (which we all knew before anyway).
Quote from: SunMo on August 17, 2007, 09:06:21 PM
does anybody know why the quarterbacks have that green sticker on the back of their helmets?
I'm glad there's an explanation cause when I read this I thought it was yet another attempt to 'Go Green' - which is the Eagles in your face recycling program. I remember some advertisments for it at games last year but this year it was during every break. When I'm at a football game I want to be as environmentally irresponsible as possible. I purposely threw my recycylables in the regular trash as protest.
Lighting was pretty nasty lastnight. It looked like it was hitting near CBP then a few minutes later you could tell it had moved over the linc. Rain came and went right after halftime which was perfect.
Some fans were farging with Steve Smith behind the Panthers bench. To his credit he was giving it right back to them. This went on for about a half an hour till they crossed the line (not sure what they did) and were escorted out. I took a picture with my camera phone but it won't send to my album.
Fan of the night in our section was the white trash mom who reminded me of Sissy (De Mornay) in JFC (she even looked like her). She'd come down yell at her teenage son, walk back up to the section entrance area, yell, go behind her son, smack him, then yell some more. This went on for a good hour. You could tell the ushers felt uncomfortable since it was a family thing and just let it happen. Provided for good entertainment at the very least.
DVR'd the game and kept an eye on MJG. Some plays the guy is flatout dominant other plays he whifs and is a non factor. He's like Andrews but with less talent, he doesn't square his body to the defender as well as Andrews.
So.... Has the sky officially stopped falling or has it only slowed down a bit. I guess this is Philly so it'll start falling again soon.
the raven debacle meant nothing and the great showing last night meant nothing...this team needs to win a superbowl...not look good in preseason
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Yes, please. :drool
meh
Racist.
What can I say? I hate skinny biatches.
Chubby chaser?
Man...I'm watching the replay, and I don't think I've ever seen McNabb throw a prettier pass than the one he threw to Schobel.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2007, 10:46:57 AM
So.... Has the sky officially stopped falling or has it only slowed down a bit. I guess this is Philly so it'll start falling again soon.
the raven debacle meant nothing and the great showing last night meant nothing...this team needs to win a superbowl...not look good in preseason
word up
I feel a little more optimistic about a possible Superbowl as slim a chance as it is, then if McNabb had been out there hobling around and looked bad.
That AZN cheerleader is hot, but she's no Mrs. Vuk.
I kind of watched the replay on NFL Network. Barksdale looked real good. Kolb is playing pretty well in the preseason considering he's a rookie on the 3rd team offense.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 18, 2007, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2007, 10:46:57 AM
So.... Has the sky officially stopped falling or has it only slowed down a bit. I guess this is Philly so it'll start falling again soon.
the raven debacle meant nothing and the great showing last night meant nothing...this team needs to win a superbowl...not look good in preseason
word up
Right so the sky's still falling then cause this team isn't winning superbowl this year...
Who said this team isn't winning the Superbowl ??
i think hes being facetious on my behalf cause im a "hater"
but truth be told i think this team can win the superbowl this year...i think a lot has to go right...and i think the coaching staff has a blind faith/god complex issue with a few too many positions....but if they are right and im wrong which is certainly possible then they can win a ring..."you gotta believe"
They're in the mix, no question. They have the tools to be of the best teams in the NFC again, but injuries and/or farg-ups could hold them back. Only way we'll find out is when they start playing the games that count.
Quote from: shorebird on August 18, 2007, 01:54:01 PM
Man...I'm watching the replay, and I don't think I've ever seen McNabb throw a prettier pass than the one he threw to Schobel.
That was the best play in the history of preseason football.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 18, 2007, 11:42:50 PM
Quote from: shorebird on August 18, 2007, 01:54:01 PM
Man...I'm watching the replay, and I don't think I've ever seen McNabb throw a prettier pass than the one he threw to Schobel.
That was the best play in the history of preseason football.
HAA!!
Thats a good way of putting it in a better perspective. I can't help but get fired up when I see the kind of shtein.
I'll try to calm down, at least until they are 12 and 4.
Damnit, why's Diggler out there pretending he's a decent punter??!?
but injuries and/or farg-ups could hold them back.
im not sure what "farg-ups" means but please dont throw out the injury excuse...ever...much less before it even happens...its the age old crutch for philly not having won any championships in a quarter century and frankly im sick of it
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2007, 10:49:38 PM
i think hes being facetious on my behalf cause im a "hater"
but truth be told i think this team can win the superbowl this year...i think a lot has to go right...and i think the coaching staff has a blind faith/god complex issue with a few too many positions....but if they are right and im wrong which is certainly possible then they can win a ring..."you gotta believe"
Holy Christ you're drunk.
Yhea hwes tosatallyy dfrunks yoo
Huh, that ain't drunk. Now.......what I was last night........that was drunk. A pound of shrimp, don't know how many clams........and about 15 Buds and it feels like I'm crapping straight Old Bay this morning.
Really though, after looking at the stat sheet, I see that we had 31 rushing attempts, and 35 pass attempts. Three of those rushing attempts were Kolb's and 1 was Feeley's. So in reality, we had 27 rushes to 35 passes.
That ain't good and I hope it's just attributed to Reid wanting to get McNabb back comfortable and a good look at Kolb in the pre-season.
Look, Reid is mentally handicapped. He's going to call way too many pass plays. That's just the way it is. I hate it, but I am now resigned to the fact. He's also constitutionally incapable of running a game efficiently; he wastes time outs like they're going out of style and can't call a play into the huddle in less than 20 seconds.
He's also fat as farg, a zesty parent, and a goddamned Mormon.
Other than that, he's great.
I was disillusioned with the thought that MM would be calling the plays this year.
Another thing is, after seeing how good Dmac looked, Fatass probably again has a raging hard on for him and the pass.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 19, 2007, 08:44:55 AM
Look, Reid is mentally handicapped. He's going to call way too many pass plays. That's just the way it is. I hate it, but I am now resigned to the fact. He's also constitutionally incapable of running a game efficiently; he wastes time outs like they're going out of style and can't call a play into the huddle in less than 20 seconds.
He's also fat as farg, a zesty parent, and a goddamned Mormon.
Other than that, he's great.
Yeah, you'd think after 8 years people would realize that we will never be a rushing team. Air Mormon is going to be bombs away for as long as he's here.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 19, 2007, 08:44:55 AM
Look, Reid is mentally handicapped. He's going to call way too many pass plays. That's just the way it is. I hate it, but I am now resigned to the fact. He's also constitutionally incapable of running a game efficiently; he wastes time outs like they're going out of style and can't call a play into the huddle in less than 20 seconds.
He's also fat as farg, a zesty parent, and a goddamned Mormon.
Other than that, he's great.
He's like the alcoholic who goes to the bar to only have a few, then once he gets the few he goes on to get shteinfaced. I believe Reid wants to run the ball more but once game time rolls around he's like the alcoholic with the passing game.
I can almost resign myself to his passing problem without going into fits of rage. It's the game management that most infuriates me...I'll never accept his inability to avoid using timeouts in the first and third quarter, or his refusal to put a priority on making play calls quickly.
And having derailed this thread, that's the last I'll say on the subject here.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2007, 01:52:22 AM
but injuries and/or farg-ups could hold them back.
im not sure what "farg-ups" means
farg-ups are like punting the ball away in a playoff game when there's not enough time to get the ball back, or slowly marching down the field near the end of the Super Bowl when you need two scores.
For someone who is so plodding and meticulous in his planning, it's never ceased to amaze me how utterly unprepared Reid can be when faced with changing circumstances in a game situation.
You'd think he'd think and re-think every possible contingency, but it never fails - he always seems to come up short when faced with scenarios that don't go along with the pre-arranged plan.
Very strange and maddening.
if its true that morningwheg is taking over the play calling then hopefully that will free up reid to concentrate on in game coaching more...it may allow him to run thru these different scenarios youre talking about romey and make the better decisions....he also may be able to better in game adjust as he will see things on the field more with his face not forever in that play card
You all can talk about the Andy will never run BS all you want, but the fact is he ran the ball in 2003 with West, Buck, and Duce. So while he does love to pass, he has shown he will and can run the ball.
So to say he has never done it is simply wrong. Is it likely that if he had the playcalling duties again, he'd revert back to passing? Yes. But is he incapable of running? Nope. He's done it in 2003. That is evidence enough that he has before.
I wasn't busting on Igy all that much. I really don't think this team can win a SB this year. I think they could get to the big game only to be slaughtered by an AFC team. I don't think the sky is falling because they won't win a SB this year. I'll enjoy watching them win the NFC East and make a run through the playoffs but there are too many players with potential for injury. Being realistic this team is one major injury away from letting Dallas win the division. :boom
Guess I'm not overly confident this year. I've given up on the SB or bust mentality. How can I be a fan of any Philly franchise with that attitude. It'll kill ya!
Quote from: King Cole on August 19, 2007, 04:41:53 PM
You all can talk about the Andy will never run BS all you want, but the fact is he ran the ball in 2003 with West, Buck, and Duce. So while he does love to pass, he has shown he will and can run the ball.
So to say he has never done it is simply wrong. Is it likely that if he had the playcalling duties again, he'd revert back to passing? Yes. But is he incapable of running? Nope. He's done it in 2003. That is evidence enough that he has before.
STOP BREATHING.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 19, 2007, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: King Cole on August 19, 2007, 04:41:53 PM
You all can talk about the Andy will never run BS all you want, but the fact is he ran the ball in 2003 with West, Buck, and Duce. So while he does love to pass, he has shown he will and can run the ball.
So to say he has never done it is simply wrong. Is it likely that if he had the playcalling duties again, he'd revert back to passing? Yes. But is he incapable of running? Nope. He's done it in 2003. That is evidence enough that he has before.
STOP BREATHING.
You can't argue otherwise. *sniff* ughhhh
Replay is on CSN right now
They threw the ball 485 times and ran it 417 times and 71 of those were scrambles by McNabb.
Take away the 71 runs by McNabb and you have 346 rushing attempts by running backs and 485 passes.
Do the math, moron.
Assuming those numbers are correct; if you count Mcnabb's scrambles they ran 46% of the time and if you don't they ran 42% of the time. Still passed less than 60% in both scenarios. 42% of the time is close to an ideal %. The way this offense can throw the ball, getting it closer to 50/50 wouldn't be ideal.
You could argue 55/45 would be a bit better than 58/42(though I wouldn't agree), but that is still a lot more than he's ran the ball when he called the plays than in any other year.
* Sighs *
485 passes, 417 rushing plays. That's a total of 902 plays, right? Now subtract 71 McNabb scrambles from the total number of plays called.
Assuming the Eagles didn't run any called rushing plays for McNabb (which by that time in his career it's a pretty safe bet they did not) that means they called running plays 39% of the time and pass plays 61% of the time.
Do you not see that? Do you not understand that? Jesus Christ, dude.
We don't know how many of the scrambles were designed and how many weren't, so let's just disregard them as designed pass plays all together for more accurate results.
I personally think it is ideal to include the scrambles though in the percentages which would make it 54/46. A running play is a running play. When you break down other teams and their percentages, no one ever takes out percentages of QB scrambles. But if you don't wanna include scrambles, then we gotta go 58/42.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 19, 2007, 07:27:53 PMDo you not see that? Do you not understand that? Jesus Christ, dude.
lol
I honestly don't know why I bother.
One year out of eight doesn't prove anything. It's an anamoly. Andy Reid loves to air it out. And he's fat. So thats it.
I honestly don't know why I bother.
i dont know why anyone does...its the reason i stopped talking to the idiot over a year ago...ill even converse with munson over that fool
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 19, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
One year out of eight doesn't prove anything. It's an anamoly. Andy Reid loves to air it out. And he's fat. So thats it.
Especially when it's right there in black and white that he passed over 60% of the time. And as for
QuoteThe way this offense can throw the ball, getting it closer to 50/50 wouldn't be ideal.
well, thats just ridiculous. Reids pass happy bullcrap might work in the weak NFC East and during the regular season, but when you get in the playoffs and go up against the best teams,
you absolutely HAVE TO establish a running game and balance it with the pass, or your going to lose. Even Ray Charles can see it's one of the biggest reasons we lost three NFC championships, and he's blind
and dead. Teams with great D's who can and
do run the ball, and control the clock while building a lead, key on McNabb, knock the shtein outta' him and it's game over.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2007, 09:43:22 PM
I honestly don't know why I bother.
i dont know why anyone does...its the reason i stopped talking to the idiot over a year ago...ill even converse with munson over that fool
Everyone should follow IGY's example. I did, and not only do I enjoy not reading fargface's posts, but my penis grew three inches, and I can freestyle on demand.
how do you not read them...is there an actual ignore function on here
Let's test it out. If an ignore function exists, that bastich Zanshin wouldn't be able to read this post indicating that I believe him to be a giant bag of douching material.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2007, 06:33:41 AM
how do you not read them...is there an actual ignore function on here
I glance at each post to see who wrote it (I have sigs and avatars off) and just skip the post if it came from someone I'm tired of, or basically any post in reply to it, and go down the page to read what else is posted. Once in a while I get tricked into reading a post or two but I've got my lawyers working on that.
i find it easy to not respond if i so choose but i have an almost impossible time conciously not reading a post
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2007, 07:51:52 AM
i find it easy to not respond if i so choose but i have an almost impossible time conciously not reading a post
You just haven't reached the threshold yet. Eventually Douchy McDouche will say something directed to you that is so inconceivably stupid and baseless that it blows your mind, and makes it impossible to respond to. At that point, you too, can ascend to a type of CF Shangri la where the likes of King Cole, Munson, and Iggles36 do not have their respective posts read, and the articles on the main page get updated.
and the articles on the main page get updated.
lets not get crazy
It's not like anything has happened in the last 6 years anyway...
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 21, 2007, 06:36:22 AM
Let's test it out. If an ignore function exists, that bastich Zanshin wouldn't be able to read this post indicating that I believe him to be a giant bag of douching material.
lol...wtf, dude?
Quote from: Zanshin on August 21, 2007, 09:01:19 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 21, 2007, 06:36:22 AM
Let's test it out. If an ignore function exists, that bastich Zanshin wouldn't be able to read this post indicating that I believe him to be a giant bag of douching material.
lol...wtf, dude?
I wanted to pick someone that wouldn't take it seriously, like Dio would.
Still, ignoring me would make you lose out on my keen insight and not-quite biting sarcasm. Mistake.
Quote from: PPinDC on August 21, 2007, 07:59:50 AM
Eventually Douchy McDouche will say something that is so inconceivably stupid and baseless that it blows your mind, and makes it impossible to respond to.
Quote from: King Cole on August 19, 2007, 07:13:18 PM
The way this offense can throw the ball, getting it closer to 50/50 wouldn't be ideal.
HA!