Eagles - Panthers Game Thread

Started by PhillyPhanInDC, August 17, 2007, 08:39:50 AM

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The BIGSTUD

You all can talk about the Andy will never run BS all you want, but the fact is he ran the ball in 2003 with West, Buck, and Duce. So while he does love to pass, he has shown he will and can run the ball.

So to say he has never done it is simply wrong. Is it likely that if he had the playcalling duties again, he'd revert back to passing? Yes. But is he incapable of running? Nope. He's done it in 2003. That is evidence enough that he has before.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

Phanatic

I wasn't busting on Igy all that much. I really don't think this team can win a SB this year. I think they could get to the big game only to be slaughtered by an AFC team. I don't think the sky is falling because they won't win a SB this year. I'll enjoy watching them win the NFC East and make a run through the playoffs but there are too many players with potential for injury. Being realistic this team is one major injury away from letting Dallas win the division.  :boom

Guess I'm not overly confident this year. I've given up on the SB or bust mentality. How can I be a fan of any Philly franchise with that attitude. It'll kill ya!
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Rome

Quote from: King Cole on August 19, 2007, 04:41:53 PM
You all can talk about the Andy will never run BS all you want, but the fact is he ran the ball in 2003 with West, Buck, and Duce. So while he does love to pass, he has shown he will and can run the ball.

So to say he has never done it is simply wrong. Is it likely that if he had the playcalling duties again, he'd revert back to passing? Yes. But is he incapable of running? Nope. He's done it in 2003. That is evidence enough that he has before.

STOP BREATHING.

The BIGSTUD

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 19, 2007, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: King Cole on August 19, 2007, 04:41:53 PM
You all can talk about the Andy will never run BS all you want, but the fact is he ran the ball in 2003 with West, Buck, and Duce. So while he does love to pass, he has shown he will and can run the ball.

So to say he has never done it is simply wrong. Is it likely that if he had the playcalling duties again, he'd revert back to passing? Yes. But is he incapable of running? Nope. He's done it in 2003. That is evidence enough that he has before.

STOP BREATHING.

You can't argue otherwise. *sniff* ughhhh
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

BigEd76


Rome

#125
They threw the ball 485 times and ran it 417 times and 71 of those were scrambles by McNabb.

Take away the 71 runs by McNabb and you have 346 rushing attempts by running backs and 485 passes.

Do the math, moron.

The BIGSTUD

Assuming those numbers are correct; if you count Mcnabb's scrambles they ran 46% of the time and if you don't they ran 42% of the time. Still passed less than 60% in both scenarios. 42% of the time is close to an ideal %. The way this offense can throw the ball, getting it closer to 50/50 wouldn't be ideal.

You could argue 55/45 would be a bit better than 58/42(though I wouldn't agree), but that is still a lot more than he's ran the ball when he called the plays than in any other year.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

Rome

* Sighs *


485 passes, 417 rushing plays.  That's a total of 902 plays, right?  Now subtract 71 McNabb scrambles from the total number of plays called.

Assuming the Eagles didn't run any called rushing plays for McNabb (which by that time in his career it's a pretty safe bet  they did not) that means they called running plays 39% of the time and pass plays 61% of the time.

Do you not see that?  Do you not understand that?  Jesus Christ, dude.


The BIGSTUD

#128
We don't know how many of the scrambles were designed and how many weren't, so let's just disregard them as designed pass plays all together for more accurate results.

I personally think it is ideal to include the scrambles though in the percentages which would make it 54/46. A running play is a running play. When you break down other teams and their percentages, no one ever takes out percentages of QB scrambles. But if you don't wanna include scrambles, then we gotta go 58/42.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

Diomedes

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 19, 2007, 07:27:53 PMDo you not see that?  Do you not understand that?  Jesus Christ, dude.

lol
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Rome

I honestly don't know why I bother.

Quasimoto

One year out of eight doesn't prove anything.  It's an anamoly.  Andy Reid loves to air it out.  And he's fat.  So thats it.

ice grillin you

I honestly don't know why I bother.

i dont know why anyone does...its the reason i stopped talking to the idiot over a year ago...ill even converse with munson over that fool
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

shorebird

Quote from: Quasimoto on August 19, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
One year out of eight doesn't prove anything.  It's an anamoly.  Andy Reid loves to air it out.  And he's fat.  So thats it.

Especially when it's right there in black and white that he passed over 60% of the time. And as for
QuoteThe way this offense can throw the ball, getting it closer to 50/50 wouldn't be ideal.
well, thats just ridiculous. Reids pass happy bullcrap might work in the weak NFC East and during the regular season, but when you get in the playoffs and go up against the best teams, you absolutely HAVE TO establish a running game and balance it with the pass, or your going to lose. Even Ray Charles can see it's one of the biggest reasons we lost three NFC championships, and he's blind and dead. Teams with great D's who can and do run the ball, and control the clock while building a lead, key on McNabb, knock the shtein outta' him and it's game over.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2007, 09:43:22 PM
I honestly don't know why I bother.

i dont know why anyone does...its the reason i stopped talking to the idiot over a year ago...ill even converse with munson over that fool

Everyone should follow IGY's example. I did, and not only do I enjoy not reading fargface's posts, but my penis grew three inches, and I can freestyle on demand.
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