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Title: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: MURP on January 27, 2007, 09:46:49 PM
link (http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/16557520.htm)

Jaws:

DT's and LB's suck
Oline is good
Stallworth is gone


QuoteOn Sports Media | Jaworski tells it like it is: Eagles had good year
By Marc Narducci
Inquirer Columnist

A large segment of Eagles fans believe that, with a break here or there, the Eagles and not the New Orleans Saints would have met Chicago in the NFC title game.

Don't count ESPN analyst and former Eagles quarterback Ron Jaworski among this group. Jaworski said that the right team won and that the Eagles should still be proud of a successful season.

"I do not think that the Eagles could have won that Saints game with a break or two," Jaworski said in a phone interview. "The shortcomings of the team were exposed in that game - the inability to stop the power running game, the weakness of the interior of the defensive line, or linebackers' failure to make game-changing plays. When you have a weakness, somewhere along the line, it gets exposed."

Jaworski said that even though the season ended in disappointment for the Eagles, the fact that they went 10-6 in the regular season, won the NFC East, then beat the New York Giants in the wild-card round made the campaign one the team could be proud of.

"Absolutely, it was a successful season," he said. "Ultimately, the goal of 32 teams is to win the Super Bowl, but when you look at the body of work of the football team this season, I thought it was a successful year that they can build on."

Jaworski will be in Miami during Super Bowl week, working on projects for ESPN. He believes that next season, if the Eagles address some defensive needs, they should be in the Super Bowl hunt. Jaworski thinks the Eagles learned a lot about themselves when Jeff Garcia replaced injured Donovan McNabb at quarterback.

"Conventional wisdom was that when the Eagles won, it was because of Donovan and that Donovan had to be great for them to win," Jaworski said. "Without Donovan, people learned there were quality players on offense, the offensive line could block and create space for the running game, and the guys who weren't getting notoriety were good enough and could win."

One of the key off-season duties for the Eagles would seemingly be to re-sign free-agent wide receiver Donté Stallworth, who despite missing four games due to a hamstring injury caught 38 passes for 725 yards and five touchdowns in the regular season.

Jaworski, however, says he doesn't think re-signing Stallworth is essential.

"I think he is a solid football player, a very good football player, but he has a history of being injured, and I think availability is a top priority," Jaworski said. "He has been inconsistent as far as receiving goes - dropping too many balls."

And Jaworski thinks that Stallworth will cash in on the free-agent market.

"Unfortunately, what people will see is that speed, and that will make him a valuable commodity," Jaworski said. "I believe somebody will overpay for him."


Strong opinions like that one should help Jaworski vault up the ESPN ladder.

He doesn't have the bombast of some announcers, just knowledge that comes from a 15-year NFL career and an insatiable appetite for studying film.

As the president of the Philadelphia Soul, he has a thorough knowledge of the Arena Football League, and he will be an analyst on about six ESPN games this season, none that include the Soul.

ESPN would better use Jaworski's talents by making him an analyst on NFL Monday Night Football.

This year, Jaworski was an analyst for an opening Monday-night game between San Diego and Oakland when ESPN televised two games in one evening.

"I enjoy whatever they have me doing," he said, ever so diplomatically.

Jaworski can break down a game in a much more interesting fashion than current analyst Joe Theismann, who babbles too much.

Also, Jaworski gets to his point and often offers insights that the regular viewer doesn't have, which should be the goal of any top analyst.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Father Demon on January 27, 2007, 10:02:36 PM
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"Absolutely, it was a successful season," he said.

After a couple weeks to mellow down and reflect, I have come to the same conclusion.  This was a successful season, considering everyone -- you, me, and the world -- thought the Eagles would be playing for a draft pick after McNabb went down.  Only the insane thought the result of this season was possible.

Although disappointed, I'm happy with the season.  It gave me reason to be a happy, excited, and hopeful fan for 6 games that otherwise would have been miserable to go through.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2007, 11:37:02 PM
DT's and LB's suck

so half the defense sucks?  i think thats what what said?

did someone say they were happy with the season!??!?!?!?

anyone that thinks the birds had a successful season is a charles roberts fan
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Father Demon on January 28, 2007, 12:04:01 AM
I knew it would be you.

If you read my post, it says I'm happy with the way the season turned out considering that I thought the season was a total loss when Garcia stepped in.  Watching them go from a probable 1-5 to 5-1 was great.  And considering our expectations, it made the season a success. 

I know this season cut you to your very wiggy core, and you have immeasurable pains that none of us would understand, but the fact that you are a drama queen does not mean that most people do the same. 

Expectation when McNabb went down:  6-10, and probably 3rd in the East.  Result: 10-6 and winning the NFC East and a playoff game against a division rival  = Successful season.

If you at any point thought the Eagles could make the Super Bowl, then you were simply disillusioned.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: The BIGSTUD on January 28, 2007, 12:49:24 AM
The Eagles didn't have a successful season, but it wasn't a failure either. Somewhere in between which isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Eaglez on January 28, 2007, 01:31:35 AM
In retrospect, the Eagles had a good season considering the circumstances surrounding the team.

Blah blah blah no super bowl equate failure blah blah...

Sure, but I can't imagine a rational person not enjoying the Eagles going 10-6, winning the division, and winning a playoff game. Yeah, no one like how it ended, especially when the Eagles had a chance to win the game. But, it's much better than having to sit through another 6-10 season and have no excitement or anything meaningful to root for.

In the end, I was entertained. It was a great storyline, they were fun to watch, and it is something positive to build off of. At least the Eagles weren't the Chargers...


Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Magical_Retard on January 28, 2007, 02:01:02 AM
forget when mcnabb went down... a lot of ppl didnt think we would finish higher than 3rd b4 the season started.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Diomedes on January 28, 2007, 08:42:14 AM
I count the season a success too.  The team overachieved, and the way they did it was thrilling.  NFC East again, sending Tiki packing with a loss, taking another huge chunk out of Eli's ass...it was great.  I wouldn't have enjoyed that as much if it hadn't seemed so impossible after the Indy game, but so be it.  I'll take my kicks where I can get 'em.

The Defense sucks, and it's not gonna get better next year.  The WRs suck, and that's not gonna improve either.  farging Reggie Brown needs to learn how to catch goddamnit.

Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 28, 2007, 08:49:53 AM
It was an enjoyable season, and I refuse to get too upset over the loss to the Saints.  Now that the game is two weeks in the past, of course...
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Diomedes on January 28, 2007, 08:54:33 AM
I didn't expect a win there, so I was please just to see the Eagles put up a fight.  At least they didn't embarrass themselves.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 28, 2007, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 28, 2007, 08:54:33 AM
I didn't expect a win there, so I was please just to see the Eagles put up a fight.  At least they didn't embarrass themselves.

200+ yds rushing allowed
Unable to convert 2 and 1/3 and 1
Andy doing what he does best and making a terrible call in crunch time by punting

All rather embarassing.  But they did put up a fight and somehow managed to keep the game close and make it look respectable on the scoreboard despite being dominated for most of the game.  I think the Saints let the Eagles look good in that game more so than the Eagles doing it on their own.

I do agree with your original post though.  They definately overachieved, especially after that horrible streak they went on between game 6 - 11.  It was a topsy turby season but mostly fun.  I don't think I've hated and loved this team as much during one season as I did this year. 

This Skins sucked ass all year and the Cowboys and Giants both blew it in the WC round.  Success all around I'd say.   
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Eagaholic on January 28, 2007, 12:38:17 PM
Garcia and McNabb both beating TO and Dallas = a playoff win.

How successful the season was must also be viewed in terms of the disaster the year before. The team seemed headed toward a similar fate this year but showed an ability to turn things around - especially by taking advantage of divisoin rival weaknesses. That is big. Actually, this year could have been worse than last because last year which had all the injuries and distractions. This season began well, and to continue losing after McNabb went down would mean a complete choke/implosion with a need to totally rebuild.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: rjs246 on January 28, 2007, 12:46:40 PM
If I look strictly at the record, the season was more successful than I expect it to be. The team's final W-L record exceeded what I was expecting, but the rest of the NFC East severely underperformed so a win or two extra isn't a shock.

By EVERY other benchmark this season was a failure. They went right back to passing 65% of the time (until McNabb got hurt). They lost to several inferior teams. The gameday coaching was atrocious. The defense was atrocious. The last three defensive first-round picks for the team contributed precisely dick. The team's best WR was hurt for a quarter of the season. The franchise quarterback was given a ridiculously soft schedule and went 5-5. Westbrook missed playing time AGAIN.

10-6 is nice. But this season was a farging clusterfarg.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: MDS on January 28, 2007, 01:59:48 PM
They didn't win the superbowl. That's really all that matters.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: mussa on January 28, 2007, 02:09:50 PM
This season proved to me without a doubt that our coaches suck.  Are players are capable, but some areas are weak, mainly due to coach/gm making poor decisions. Another failure by the personel.

Letting Stallworth go is a huge mistake. I am so pissed about this.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Quasimoto on January 28, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
There hasn't been a successful Eagles season since 1960.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: shorebird on January 28, 2007, 04:53:16 PM
QuoteStrong opinions like that one should help Jaworski vault up the ESPN ladder.

He doesn't have the bombast of some announcers, just knowledge that comes from a 15-year NFL career and an insatiable appetite for studying film.

Jaws is right on the money as usual. He makes guys like Thiesman look stupid.


Quote from: rjs246 on January 28, 2007, 12:46:40 PM
the rest of the NFC East severely underperformed

No, they just suck. And they will continue to suck as long as TO is on the Cowboys, Coughlin coaches the Giants, and Snyder owns the taterskins.

This season with a 10-6 record and winning the East,  can be called a success, if it weren't for the way the season ended. That left a bad taste in my mouth that I will be a long while getting rid of, if ever. It has me wishing that Reid would retire to the GM position. If we don't draft for defense the first two picks then someone needs their friggen' head examined.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2007, 08:25:34 AM
im not even a win the superbowl or its a failure type person...but when you look at this season overall it was NOT successful

because the nfc sucked and the eagles proved to be one of the better teams in a horrible conference is why the season is not a success...they had ample opportunity to win the new orleans game...a team that wants to claim a successful year has to win games like that...they failed big time in that game especially the coaches

im also very disappointed in jaws...its well known that hes an eagle fan but usually hes pretty responsible and honest with his take on the team...however this nonsense with stallworth is sickening and his blind faith in the front office here causes me to lose a lot of repsect for jaws...especially the stallworth is always injured thing...the guys missed 4 games in three years...way less than mcnabb...but were you to ask jaws if mcnabb should be removed from the team hed laugh...yet with stallworth he tries to give every reason under the sun to let him walk...
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Event Horizon on January 29, 2007, 03:51:45 PM
We got to see what it's like to have an offensive play caller for once. That's worth something.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Munson on January 29, 2007, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2007, 08:25:34 AM
im not even a win the superbowl or its a failure type person...but when you look at this season overall it was NOT successful
.especially the stallworth is always injured thing...the guys missed 4 games in three years...way less than mcnabb...but were you to ask jaws if mcnabb should be removed from the team hed laugh...yet with stallworth he tries to give every reason under the sun to let him walk...

This is coming from a guy who before this season started talked about how injury prone Brian Westbrook is.

Lets look at Stallworth after his 3rd season in the league.
He had well documented, chronic hammy/groin problems in his first two seasons and missed a good amount of time. Would you have not labled him injury prone still, because he finished his 3rd season without a hammy/groin problem?

Now, two years later, he had another healthy year, followed by....well look what's back, hammy problems.

Don't get me wrong, I want Stallworth back at all costs...but THAT is an injury prone problem...he's had upper leg muscle injuries through his 5 year career, and has missed significant time in 2 seasons, and 3 games (which is borderline on "too much" in a 16 game season) in another.

Brian Westbrook has missed significant time in ONE regular season...other then that he's missed a game or two, and missed the playoffs back in 03 (No, he did NOT miss significant time in '04, he missed 1 (maybe 2) due to injury, and was sat along with the rest of the starters for the last two games because 1st seed was locked up). All different kinds of injuries, a few things a RB isn't unlikely to have happen to him throughout his career (bruised/broken ribs, a sore knee)....but he's injury prone, and the guy with a chronic problem in his hamstrings that has missed time in 3 out of his 5 seasons for longer periods of time...he's NOT injury prone?

Riiiiiight.

Again, don't get me wrong...I want Stallworth back BAD. Just don't understand the double standard.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2007, 05:10:15 PM
the double standard here is being put forth by the team...saying westbrook kearse and mcnabb are worth big money but stallworth isnt cause he gets hurt a lot....thats the epitome of talking out both sides of your mouth

just say you dont value great wide receivers...that you believe in your spread it around offense and the system makes the players not the other way around...id still say they are idiots but theyd be honest idiots at least

i never said stallworth hasnt been hurt...i said hes missed four games in the last three years...less than numerous other players on the team....and thats a fact...

Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Feva on January 29, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
JACK!!!
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: phillywin2k5 on February 20, 2007, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2007, 05:10:15 PM
the double standard here is being put forth by the team...saying westbrook kearse and mcnabb are worth big money but stallworth isnt cause he gets hurt a lot....thats the epitome of talking out both sides of your mouth

just say you dont value great wide receivers...that you believe in your spread it around offense and the system makes the players not the other way around...id still say they are idiots but theyd be honest idiots at least

i never said stallworth hasnt been hurt...i said hes missed four games in the last three years...less than numerous other players on the team....and thats a fact...



Stallworth would be a great 1a after full year in the offense and the backups look decent compared to previous years. Ask McNabb to re-structure to get him Stallworth!
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: TempleOwl on February 22, 2007, 03:29:05 PM
I say we bring in Paris Hilton!   She sucks, she'd fit right in with our defense! :boo
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: SunMo on February 22, 2007, 03:39:28 PM
you should probably leave now
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Eagaholic on February 22, 2007, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2007, 05:10:15 PM
the double standard here is being put forth by the team...saying westbrook kearse and mcnabb are worth big money but stallworth isnt cause he gets hurt a lot....thats the epitome of talking out both sides of your mouth

just say you dont value great wide receivers...that you believe in your spread it around offense and the system makes the players not the other way around...id still say they are idiots but theyd be honest idiots at least

i never said stallworth hasnt been hurt...i said hes missed four games in the last three years...less than numerous other players on the team....and thats a fact...




These are excellent points except the Eagles did pay alot for TO. Cap aside, I wonder if it is in part because of McNabb, Westy and Kearse that they aren't willing to break the bank now.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: shorebird on February 23, 2007, 09:13:53 PM
I'm wondering how many injuries Kearse can come back from. With the way he was playing last year before he was hurt, it was a big loss, and I can't see him coming back to play any were near the level he was playing at. It looked like a real bad injury when watching the replay. But still, he's such a freak athelete, who knows? He might come back.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
Who knows??
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: shorebird on February 23, 2007, 09:14:53 PM
Not me, thats for damn shore.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: BB on February 24, 2007, 10:12:19 PM
Kearse isn't going anywhere. You can bank on that. Cutting bait on him would be a big egg on face moment for the organization. They won't be going there no matter how much cap space it could bring them.
Title: Re: Jaws weighs in on season
Post by: phillywin2k5 on February 27, 2007, 09:48:15 AM
Amazing how they can pay 4 DEs NEW MONEY but cant pay a #1 WR. McNabb should be pissed he cant get Stallworth back!