Didn't see this anywhere else, and didn't think it fit in the playoffs thread. So, I started the Official CF Super Bowl(TM) thread.
No Tailgaiting at the Super Bowl (http://cbs4.com/local/local_story_025154548.html)
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Tailgating Forbidden For Super Bowl
(CBS4) MIAMI Die-hard football fans attending the Super Bowl game at Dolphin Stadium are getting a rude awakening after finding out that no tailgating of any type will be allowed on game day within one mile of the stadium.
"There is no tailgating allowed in the Dolphin Stadium parking lots," Sue Jaquez, a member of the Super Bowl XLI Host Committee, confirmed on Tuesday. "And there is no tailgating anywhere within a one-mile radius of the stadium." "And there are no RVs allowed."
Tailgating is permitted during regular- and post-season games for Dolphins fans, a team official on Tuesday said it would indeed be allowed at the Super Bowl. According to Jaquez, however, the official has been seriously misinformed.
The Dolphins do not organize and oversee the Super Bowl, Jaquez pointed out. Instead, those duties are left up to NFL officials. And because of security reasons, no pre-game partying on (or very near) the premises will take place. Fans spotted tailgating could face charges, Jaquez said.
"This is part of the NFL, not the Dolphins," Jaquez said. "If the Dolphins are saying there's tailgating -- or think it's going to be allowed -- then they need to contact the NFL."
Detective Nelda Fonticella of the Miami-Dade Police department confirmed the Super Bowl rules.
The rules put in force by the NFL prohibit grilling or consuming alcohol within or on Dolphins Stadium grounds.
People "will be warned and asked to pick up their things and leave," Fonticella said. "We're trying to make this a pleasant experience for everyone, and there will be plenty to do in the week leading up to the game."
There is no law prohibiting tailgating outside of the stadium property.[/url]
NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED - unless they sell it to you. :yay
I hate Superbowl week. It's sunny there, famous and rich people are hanging out getting free shtein and awsome parties, and I'm sitting in farging cold ass Philly going to class and working at a newspaper. Asses.
No Fun League strikes again. Next year there will be no cheering allowed.
It's been a very long time since the NFL made a dime on me, and I intend to keep it that way.
Tailgating wasn't permitted in Jacksonville either. What's the big deal?
People are going to be tailgating on South Beach anyway. What's better? Sitting by your car in some mosquito-infested parking lot or hanging out in open-air bars with supermodels in bikini's walking around?
I never saw any bikini clad super models when I was in South Beach... but that was during the day so they were probably all inside snorting coke at the time.
Quote from: TexasEagle on January 28, 2007, 09:02:27 PM
I never saw any bikini clad super models when I was in South Beach... but that was during the day so they were probably all inside snorting coke at the time.
You were probably there just in time for the early bird specials.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070130/capt.mds32801301648.super_bowl_football_mds328.jpg) (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070130/capt.mds21101301633.super_bowl_football_mds211.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070130/capt.mds30901301646.super_bowl_football_mds309.jpg) (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070130/capt.mds35801301916.super_bowl_football_mds358.jpg)
Quote from: TexasEagle on January 28, 2007, 09:02:27 PM
I never saw any bikini clad super models when I was in South Beach... but that was during the day so they were probably all inside snorting coke at the time.
LOL - you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a supermodel down there. I'm not kidding either. It's hot Hoyda-central.
From Bill Simmons' media day photo blog:
(http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0130/media_day6.jpg)
Quote"Jimmy Kimmel Live" decided to send the Famous Rejects Du' Jour from "American Idol" to cover media day for a segment on the show. That's one of the show's writers on the left, Will Burke. He spent the last few days with them ... now he's starting to look like Nicholson during the last 75 minutes of "The Shining." No, seriously.
(http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0130/media_day42.jpg)
I'd film her tits too.
I hate Media Day, but love the saucy Latina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsZUnJoGsNE
ESPN ranks the 80 SB teams (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=super/rankings/80-61)
80 Eagles ranked 54th
94 Eagles ranked 46th
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 02, 2007, 11:47:33 AM
ESPN ranks the 80 SB teams (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=super/rankings/80-61)
80 Eagles ranked 54th
94 Eagles ranked 46th
I doubt your sincerity?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 02, 2007, 11:47:33 AM
ESPN ranks the 80 SB teams (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=super/rankings/80-61)
80 Eagles ranked 54th
94 Eagles ranked 46th
Does anyone believe the 9th best Super Bowl team of all time beat the Eagles 2 years ago?
Also, I enjoy seeing those 2002 paper champions ranked lower than some losing teams.
Whoopsie.
I was having flashbacks of the 40-8 whooping we put on the Niners that year
QuoteIf God came to us and said, "You have to coach a game against evil Cyborgs. The survival of mankind is at stake. You have to pick one quarterback from one year of his career. Who do you pick?" We'll take Steve Young, 1994. His stats look made up (70 percent completion, 35 TDs, 10 INTs, 8.6 yards per attempt, 112.8 QB rating, 7 rushing TDs, 6 TD passes in the Super Bowl). Behind Young, this team could not be stopped: Over its final 13 games (including the playoffs), it scored more than 40 six times and less than 30 just twice, and one of those was the season finale – which the Niners lost – when Young and Jerry Rice were benched after the first quarter. Alas, this team has one huge scar: a 40-8 loss to the Eagles in Week 5. It's enough to slide them down. Of course, maybe we made a mistake.
The 04' Pats ranked #9
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 02, 2007, 12:03:31 PM
Whoopsie.
I was having flashbacks of the 40-8 whooping we put on the Niners that year
Ah, the height of Charlie Garner-mania.
Quote from: MURP on February 02, 2007, 09:50:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsZUnJoGsNE
awesome!
Design Firm that did all graphics for SB41:
http://www.infinitescale.com/SB41/index.html
Quote from: mussa on February 02, 2007, 01:54:14 PM
Design Firm that did all graphics for SB41:
http://www.infinitescale.com/SB41/index.html
Good thing they were on the job. Had the logo been a little worse, no one would watch the game.
Just a reminder:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/SamiB/Eagles%20stuff/rex_grossman.jpg)
in case you forgot how cheezy this was:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS5cOAwSTS4
i especially like the players pretending to play the instruments....the dude wearing the white hat rockin the cowbell is money. :-D
Quote from: hunt on February 03, 2007, 09:19:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS5cOAwSTS4
i especially like the players pretending to play the instruments....the dude wearing the white hat rockin the cowbell is money. :-D
That's the punter Maury Buford. Personally I'm partial to Willie Gault's fancy footwork during his verse, and Steve Fuller's painful 15 seconds on the mic. "I'm not here to feathers ruffle"?
Quote from: hunt on February 03, 2007, 09:19:28 AM
in case you forgot how cheezy this was:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS5cOAwSTS4
i especially like the players pretending to play the instruments....the dude wearing the white hat rockin the cowbell is money. :-D
#59 is Ron Rivera
Go Bears
shame you never see fog in Florida.
Quote from: shorebird on February 04, 2007, 10:11:39 AM
shame you never see fog in Florida.
Only if they played the game at 6am.
Predictions anyone?
I'll go first:
Colts: 30
Bears: 20
Colts 27
Bears 13
but I hope it's the other way around
-- It's pouring at the stadium right now
-- Kevin Federline Super Bowl commercial for Nationwide (http://youtube.com/watch?v=sNOh-Gsukis)
-- Puppy Bowl III at 3PM
Is the kickoff at 6:25, or is it still gonna be pre-game bullshtein?
6:18...6:22....something like that. It's 4 hours of pregame, then the national anthem, then intros, then a coin flip....
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 04, 2007, 01:11:54 PM
-- It's pouring at the stadium right now
40% chance of rain during the game (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2753155)
No Super Bowl has ever been played in the rain.
Oh those poor corporate whores. Having to sit out in the rain in their fancy little suits. For shame.
Bears 24
Colts 21
The weather could easily even things out and I love it. Bears will cover.
I see this as the long-awaited annointing of Manning as the New Favre. Nothing will stop that. Tagliabue (who really believes he's not still in charge) will make sure of it.
Colts 27
Bears 14
Bears - 27
Colts - 20
I'm gonna say 19-16, Colts. Ha.
Dan Klecko MVP
Indy 27
Chi 24
the puppy bowl kicks ass
im torn as to whether i should go to this bar that has $20 all you can eat and drink special for the game....not sure i can bring myself to watch football tho...im still hurt from the new orleans game and really dont wanna associate myself with football yet....but its a hell of a deal
I'm still like that too. I am going to go visit my pops in the hospital and then go to the library and get some work done for school. I have a paper due tomorrow.
With that being said...
Go Bears.
The 20 hours of pregame are over! :D
I hate the Super Bowl.
what channel is it on this year
i thought it was cbs but they have golf
cbs, doofus
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 04, 2007, 01:59:49 PM6:18...6:22....something like that. It's 4 hours of pregame, then the national anthem, then intros, then a coin flip....
by my clock, kickoff occurred at 6:27p.m.
Holy shtein.
Get TOUB AND HESTER :crazy
Peyton = Donovan :-D
Is it just me or is the CBS HD feed zesty?
The commercials suck so far....
My feed is pretty good Beermonkey, i have Direct tv though
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 04, 2007, 07:00:54 PM
My feed is pretty good Beermonkey, i have Direct tv though
It must be the rain & the fact that it looks like CBS wiped off the camera lens with a greasy paper towel.
It's just not what I'm used to from the Fox HD casts.
God i hate Peyton, yelling at Marvin, bumping into Sorgi and yelling at him.
I love the rain.
great to see Coca Cola using black history month for advertising. classy.
also, Kleenex using Katrina. nice.
these commercials blow.
I'm so farging drunk right now. I think Prince just fumbled.
great to see Coca Cola using black history month for advertising. classy.
yep...they do the same commercial in movie theaters
this game has taught me seevral things....
1. the nfl has achieved the ultimate in parity....THESE TEAMS STINK
2. the bears have a legit shot to win the superbowl with great linebackers and a great return game
3. *broken record alert* peyton manning is a leader donovan mcnabb isnt...in his entire career can anyone recall donovan getting in a referees face...or anyones face for that matter...does he feel strongly about ANYTHING?!?!?!
4. i didnt wanna watch this because of my lingering pain from the new orleans game...i should have listened to myself...seeing this awful bears team in the superbowl is an extra shot in my gut
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2007, 09:01:43 PM
great to see Coca Cola using black history month for advertising. classy.
yep...they do the same commercial in movie theaters
this game has taught me seevral things....
1. the nfl has achieved the ultimate in parity....THESE TEAMS STINK
2. the bears have a legit shot to win the superbowl with great linebackers and a great return game
3. *broken record alert* peyton manning is a leader donovan mcnabb isnt...in his entire career can anyone recall donovan getting in a referees face...or anyones face for that matter...does he feel strongly about ANYTHING?!?!?!
4. i didnt wanna watch this because of my lingering pain from the new orleans game...i should have listened to myself...seeing this awful bears team in the superbowl is an extra shot in my gut
So being a whiny bitch is leadership?
i see very little whinyness from peyton...mostly fire...dook wants to win and is a perfectionist more than almost any football player ive ever seen
should have cancelled the pro bowl and played the super bowl in Honolulu. 81 degrees, sweet tradewinds, not a cloud in the sky. Although Aloha Stadium is a piece of shtein.
Quote from: MDS on February 04, 2007, 07:53:49 PM
these commercials blow.
totally. no classics at all. The Mencia Bud Light was ok.
does phil simms ever shut up?
he knows his ish and i like a lot of things about him as an announcer...but damn hes gotta give a discertation after every play
Does Corey Simon get a ring now?
Manning didn't play that great today, the Colts defense did though. If anyone was MVP it was Rhodes to ripped up the Bears D. The Bears defense lost them that game, not Grossman which everyone is going to say.
tony eason > rex grossman
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2007, 09:48:39 PM
does phil simms ever shut up?
he knows his ish and i like a lot of things about him as an announcer...but damn hes gotta give a discertation after every play
he blew a few calls tonight being Mr. know-it-all.
is it just me or the rain or no birds but crowd seemed bored, game just kind of trudged along. just a ho[hum feel to it. Colts acted at the end like "OK we did it, can we get the hell out of here now."
Man, do the bears stink. I always thought they weren't as good as their record would lead you to believe. Still shocked saints didn't give them more of a battle in the NFCG.
Good news for the Eagles next year that the Bears aren't that great. Then again maybe not, because if the Eagles don't make big changes to the defense, we could very well get to the Superbowl, only to lose to the AFC.
If the Eagles don't make big changes to the defense, they won't have to worry about losing in the Super Bowl.
Also, Rex Grossman was the MVP of the game. Even his completed passes were often way behind the receiver, giving them no opportunity for YAC. He was embarrassing out there. The Chicago defense looked bad because Grossman never gave them a chance to rest.
Addai got hosed
Rex Grossman was terrible. Just terrible.
Manning wasn't at his best, but he was good enough. Chicago just couldn't hold him down long enough, and the defense was worn down.
Congrats to Peyton and the Colts.
Maybe someday it will be the Eagles. Probably the year after I die.
By the way, now that Indianapolis and Peyton Manning have won the Super Bowl, the Eagles and Donovan McNabb are officially the biggest big game chokers in the NFL, no contest.
Schottenheimer says hi
Even though I rather the Bears had won... I am incredibly happy for this man. He deserves all accolades and praise he's about to get.
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/82/fullj.getty-fbn-super_bowl-beras-colts-dungy_10_35_12_pm.jpg)
Reid and McNabb are now officially the biggest chokers in the NFL. It was hard for me to even watch or care much about this Super Bowl. I will say that Manning was not the MVP, that is not to say he played a bad game he just wasn't the MVP.
My favorite commercial was the rock, paper, scissors bud commercial.
The only positive that I got from this game is that truly just about any team that makes the playoffs is capable of winning the whole thing. If the Eagles can get a defense they certainly have a legit shot next year.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 04, 2007, 10:58:38 PM
Even though I rather the Bears had won... I am incredibly happy for this man. He deserves all accolades and praise he's about to get.
No doubt. That fat white cameraman has been taking quality pictures for many years now. About time he gets some recognition.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 04, 2007, 10:58:38 PM
Even though I rather the Bears had won... I am incredibly happy for this man. He deserves all accolades and praise he's about to get.
Agreed, Feva. Dungy is a class act all the way, and I am happy to see him finally reach the summit he's been so close to for so long.
Of course, I'd be much happier to see Andy's fat rear on top of some shoulders...
manning automatically enters in the discussion for best qb of all time after tonite
hes now dan marino and dan fouts but with a ring
Quote from: Geowhizzer on February 04, 2007, 03:29:16 PM
Colts 27
Bears 14
I think you are the closest so you win. Sometime in the next few days Chuggie will bring you your "prize." Congrats on that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2007, 11:13:06 PM
manning automatically enters in the discussion for best qb of all time after tonite
hes now dan marino and dan fouts but with a ring
No, he still isn't even in Tom Brady's class. To be considered for best all-time you need to win more than one. He is at a Brett Favre level now.
No, he still isn't even in Tom Brady's class. To be considered for best all-time you need to win more than one. He is at a Brett Favre level now.
yeah and brett farve is in the mix for best qb of all time
there isnt hat much of a seperation btwn winning one sb and multiple sb...winnning the one is the really big deal
I agree, but other than 2 weeks ago Manning has never taken his team in crunch time in the playoffs and went on to victory. Elway, Montana, Brady... have done it many times.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 04, 2007, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2007, 11:13:06 PM
manning automatically enters in the discussion for best qb of all time after tonite
hes now dan marino and dan fouts but with a ring
No, he still isn't even in Tom Brady's class. To be considered for best all-time you need to win more than one. He is at a Brett Favre level now.
The only thing that Brady has done that Manning hasn't is lead a game winning drive in the Super Bowl during the final posession.
Manning didn't have a great game statistically speaking but he was solid all game sans their opening drive. He could never take another snap in the NFL and his legacy is secured as one of the all time greats.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 04, 2007, 11:00:36 PM
Reid and McNabb are now officially the biggest chokers in the NFL. It was hard for me to even watch or care much about this Super Bowl. I will say that Manning was not the MVP, that is not to say he played a bad game he just wasn't the MVP.
My favorite commercial was the rock, paper, scissors bud commercial.
The only positive that I got from this game is that truly just about any team that makes the playoffs is capable of winning the whole thing. If the Eagles can get a defense they certainly have a legit shot next year.
Manning still tops McNabb as a choker regardless of today. McNabb has a better playoff record. McNabb played better in his SB than Manning did in his too.
Quote from: King Cole on February 04, 2007, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 04, 2007, 11:00:36 PM
Reid and McNabb are now officially the biggest chokers in the NFL. It was hard for me to even watch or care much about this Super Bowl. I will say that Manning was not the MVP, that is not to say he played a bad game he just wasn't the MVP.
My favorite commercial was the rock, paper, scissors bud commercial.
The only positive that I got from this game is that truly just about any team that makes the playoffs is capable of winning the whole thing. If the Eagles can get a defense they certainly have a legit shot next year.
Manning still tops McNabb as a choker regardless of today. McNabb has a better playoff record. McNabb played better in his SB than Manning did in his too.
Whatever, he has a ring McNabb doesn't end of story. I love McNabb but let us face fact he is not the Qb that Manning is.
What a boring Superbowl Sunday.
yeah it was pretty terrible wasnt it
not as bad as losing to the friggin saints tho
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 04, 2007, 11:45:29 PM
I love McNabb but let us face fact he is not the Qb that Manning is.
That much was obvious 8 years ago.
The Colts made winning the Superbowl not that big a deal.
Quote from: hbionic on February 05, 2007, 04:09:08 AM
The Colts made winning the Superbowl not that big a deal.
they sure acted that way. almost as if they had just won the fourth or fifth game of the regular season. i guess if the birds ever won i'd most likely trash the house, start a bon fire in my driveway, shoot off flares, crack open a bottle of the best tequila - wait, I did that after they lost to New England.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2007, 11:13:06 PM
manning automatically enters in the discussion for best qb of all time after tonite
He's still not the best QB in Colts history. ;)
I really hope AR and JJ were watching the Colts defense closely. Solid tackling to stop the guys from getting the first down and not going for the big hit. Would love to see the Eagles defense wrap-up better next year. It also helps when you play a pansy like Grossman who kept checking down to the RB or TE for a 2 yard catch on a 3rd and long. Reminded me of the early AR years.
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 05, 2007, 08:21:52 AM
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
Agreed.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 04, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
The weather could easily even things out and I love it. Bears will cover.
good call
Shut up.
no, you.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on February 04, 2007, 10:47:55 PM
Maybe someday it will be the Eagles. Probably the year after I die.
I'm really starting to worry about this. 2 SBs in 41 years. How long do I have to last to see them win it? Do I have to live to be 101 to just see the Eagles in the SB 2 more times? If so, what kind of drastic measures do I have to take to last another 40+ years?
Quit smoking? Stop drinking? Start eating healthy (yuck) food? Start working out in an attempt to turn this 60 yr old body into a 30 yr old body? (Thats a lot of stinking work)
Maybe one of those hyperbolic chambers? Not only would I be healthier, I could also be an even bigger ahole than I am now. That would be cool. Maybe I'll just stipualte in my will that for my son to get my money he has to do that freeze drying thing to my body and thaw me out the next time the Eagles are in the SB.
If they lose, can I be refroze and thawed again?
1) The Colts suck
2) The Bears suck worse
3) I'm really pissed that the Eagles lost to the Saints.
4) First Cowher and now Dungy? If Schottenheimer wins one we'll never get rid of Andy.
Quote from: SunMo on February 05, 2007, 09:17:34 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on February 04, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
The weather could easily even things out and I love it. Bears will cover.
good call
i don't see how anyone thought the colts would cover yesterday. two co-workers of mine put down a lot of money on the bears, and i laughed at them.
(http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/02/rexshirt.jpg)
That game sucked.
Any game with Roman numerals in its title that doesn't involve the Eagles sucks.
True.
But the overall feeling of the game was bland. Usually I can get into a good game but last night seemed like a late season regular season game where Chicago had nothing to play for and Indy was just motoring along.
The STL/NE SB where Vinatieri kicked the winning FG was a fun game to watch despite the Eagles not being in it.
I got hammered with my friends and ate a lot of food in the comfort of my leather recliner.
All in all, I didnt give a shtein about the outcome of the game anyway. I was happy that Grossman played like warmed over shtein but other than that, it was a gigantic "meh" to me. Hell, even the commercials were sorta lame (other than the Oprah & Dave thing - I actually laughed at that).
i watched the game from a tiki bar on the beach in Long Beach, Cali.
matt wins.
it was pretty cool, open air bar with hot waitesses, $4 margaritas and martinis, $5 apps, and 2.50 beers.
I said you won, man. No need to rub it in our faces.
That superbowl was awful, sad when the highlight is Prince.
i was very weird hearing Prince sing the Foo Fighters.
and yeah that game sucked. although i thought it was kind of fun to watch in a train wreck kind of way.
It looks like Ron Rivera learned alot from Jim Johnson.
This is from a bears MB...
QuoteRivera needs to go. Plain and simple.
Please Jerry Jones, back up your money truck and take this unadjusting, stubborn, bonehead off our hands. I would love nothing more than to see you pay this man a boat load of money and watch him tank your team in the playoffs with his unimaginative blitz packages and lack of game time adjustments.
This defense is simply to athletic to waste playing soft coverage, bend but don't break defense. By all means play the Cover 2 when you've got the lead and you're Dline isn't getting there lunch handed to them at the LOS and can pin their ears back and get after the passer. But when you're playing catchup all game or it's apparent your front 4 is getting absolutely no push up front something needs to be done. ANYTHING would be better than NOTHING.
QuoteI agree Rivera must go. I mean this is two years in a row he has game planned us disaster in the playoffs. He seems incapable of making adjustments during games, and stubbornly sticks with what is failing. I think it's because he's far too busy thinking about future jobs and what he'll do there. I cannot take this again next year, because if he is still around, we'll have this problem at badly inopportune times.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 05, 2007, 02:03:12 PM
Any game with Roman numerals in its title that doesn't involve the Eagles sucks.
Well, the 2 that did involve the Eagles weren't exactly great TV either.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 05, 2007, 08:21:52 AM
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
:-D
He won't be better than Montana, Elway, Brady, and others so top 3 isn't even a debate. Maybe top 10, we'll see. He still doesn't play that great in playoff games and played pretty poorly overall in the playoffs. As weird as it sounds, the Colts defense won them the Superbowl.
Quote from: King Cole on February 05, 2007, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 05, 2007, 08:21:52 AM
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
:-D
He won't be better than Montana, Elway, Brady, and others so top 3 isn't even a debate. Maybe top 10, we'll see. He still doesn't play that great in playoff games and played pretty poorly overall in the playoffs. As weird as it sounds, the Colts defense won them the Superbowl.
Maybe top 10? You're clueless.
By the time Manning's done... he's going to have most, if not all of Marino/Favre's passing records and
at least one Super Bowl Title to validate the whole thing. It's not like this is the end of the road for him. He's only 30 years old.
Not sure if this was mentioned, but on DNL right now they were showing the Colts parade.
I'm not kidding or exaggerating when I say that there were MAYBE 100 people. I've never seen anything so farging pathetic in my life.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 05, 2007, 08:21:52 AM
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
Really? You are already to put him ahead of Montana, Elway, Aikman, and probably Brady? I could go on, but my head is too far up my ass.
You do realize that the regular season counts and that Manning is basically unrivaled there, right?
That would be a start to pulling your head out.
Manning passed Brady this year with ease.
Brady is in a different universe than Manning. He is a MUCH better QB.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 05, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 05, 2007, 08:21:52 AM
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
Really? You are already to put him ahead of Montana, Elway, Aikman, and probably Brady? I could go on, but my head is too far up my ass.
C'mon, dude. He's already better than Aikman. Elway was in the same boat as Manning until they got a running game to complement him. Manning could probably win games without a running game. And none of the aforementioned guys called every play from scrimmage, like Manning does. I think he's an arrogant, self-effacing prig, but he's one hell of a quarterback.
Manning will never be as good as Brady until he can prove he can take teams with players like Gaffney and Caldwell deep into the playoffs, and can lead his teams on game winning Superbowl drives multiple times.
Brady, like Aikman, is a function of the offense. Coaching, not Brady, is the key to the Patriots.
Bledsoe sucks way too hard to have been effective, even with good coaching.
Don't agree with that. Brady is accurate as hell, is great at reading defense, stepping away from pressure and looking off defenders. Belichick is probably the best coach in NFL history, but I think Brady did a great job in making him so.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on February 05, 2007, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 05, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 05, 2007, 08:21:52 AM
Anyone saying Manning shouldn't be in the discussion for best of all time because he's only won ONE Super Bowl needs to pull their head out of their asses. There will be no question when his career is over that he will be one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game of football, whether he wins another or not.
Really? You are already to put him ahead of Montana, Elway, Aikman, and probably Brady? I could go on, but my head is too far up my ass.
C'mon, dude. He's already better than Aikman. Elway was in the same boat as Manning until they got a running game to complement him. Manning could probably win games without a running game. And none of the aforementioned guys called every play from scrimmage, like Manning does. I think he's an arrogant, self-effacing prig, but he's one hell of a quarterback.
I am not at all disputing the fact that Manning is a great Qb. The guys you mentioned as being system QBs, well isn't that what Manning is he has played in the same offense his entire career. All I am saying is that until lastnight there were many questions and well deserved at that, as to whether Manning could ever win the big one. Montana, Brady, and Aikman have never been questioned.
Manning is an awesome Qb, I am just not ready to say that he is one of the top 3 of all-time. If he wins another than yes he probably will be.
No, DM, I disagree. Brady and Aikman work within a system provided by the coach. The coach calls/ed plays which played to their strengths.
Manning IS the OC on the field. He calls all the plays from scrimmage, and they practice fake audibles so he can be more difficult to track. Manning is superior to almost anyone else who has ever played because he's running the show, not someone on the sideline.
He's also a pretentious twat, and when anything goes wrong it's not his fault. I'd like to nuke that whole gene line.
93.2 million viewers (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9976386)
3rd-highest watched program in TV history, behind the 1996 Cowboys/Steelers Super Bowl and the M*A*S*H finale
Everybody Loves Peyton
that MASH finale must have been big stuff back then.
All the ads (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/postseason/superads)
Quote from: MadMarchHare on February 05, 2007, 07:58:34 PM
No, DM, I disagree. Brady and Aikman work within a system provided by the coach. The coach calls/ed plays which played to their strengths.
Manning IS the OC on the field. He calls all the plays from scrimmage, and they practice fake audibles so he can be more difficult to track. Manning is superior to almost anyone else who has ever played because he's running the show, not someone on the sideline.
He's also a pretentious twat, and when anything goes wrong it's not his fault. I'd like to nuke that whole gene line.
I do pretty much understand and agree with what you are saying, my only thing is I think you downplay Brady and Aikman's ability to perform in the clutch. I don't care how much a system is predicated to a player he still has to come up with the plays in crunch time.
Hard to disagree, DM. That's why winning the SB was key to his legacy. With it, he trumps both, I think.
I guess my thing with Peyton is I would like to see him do more in the playoffs, he never seems to have many of the big games like he has in the regular season. To his credit even when he wasn't on his game in this years playoffs he found a way to win.
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are in a class by themselves right now. I think you could put Brady in Indy and he would perform at roughly the same level that Manning has. I also think that Manning doesn't win 3 Superbowls if he's the Patriots' QB. So I put Brady above Manning personally. But the fact is that comparing the two, which is unavoidable, is stupid. They've both won chapionships. They're both in the discussion for best QB ever (or top 10 or whatever).
Fart.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 05, 2007, 10:23:25 PM
Fart.
I cupped my hand over my ass and smelled it afterwards.
Manmade global warming?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 05, 2007, 06:19:14 PM
I'm not kidding or exaggerating when I say that there were MAYBE 100 people. I've never seen anything so farging pathetic in my life.
Keep in mind that west of the Appalachians the wind chill was about -30 degrees today. School was cancelled throughout the midwest because it was dangerous for kids to walk to school, and these are people used to the cold.
yeah the cold was a factor...but there were thousands outside not 100....and in the dome there were 50,000...still these are numbers that would pale im comparison to what northeast cities would get....its a different animal...also you have to remember that unlike the gold standard did the colts did not release any information regarding the parade until about midight sunday...so it wasnt like the people had a tonof time to rearrange work day plans to attend
IGY are you telling me if the eagles won sunday night, you wouldnt be on the first amtrack to philly. Its part planning by the city/team but hell if the eagles won, i guarantee you wouldnt be able to get a flight to philly because of all the out of towners coming back for the parade.
I know that myself, i plan an extra week every year for when one of the teams wins, i will spend at least 2 days in the streets of philly partying and celebrating
of course i would all i was saying is there were way more people than "literally 100"
bottom line is this was a poorly planned event that definitely limited attendance...are superbowl parades EVER the day after the game???...i could be wrong and correct me if i am but i thought they were always tuesday - wednesday - thursday....not only was this monday but it was announced to be monday at midnight the day of
to be clear im not defending colt fans...they are pathetic and outside of the occasional home monday nighter you dont ever hear from or of them
Brady has three superbowl rings...Peyton has one. End of story.
So... Doug Williams, Jim Plunkett, and Ben Roethlisberger... ALL better than Dan Marino, right?
how can people say Brady is a product of the system? that team has no superstars on offense, and in almost every huge playoff game, he's led them to a win at the end, Brady is great and is better than Peyton, no doubt. and i'm a huge Peyton fan.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 06, 2007, 09:38:28 AM
So... Doug Williams, Jim Plunkett, and Ben Roethlisberger... ALL better than Dan Marino, right?
Yeah, that's totally what I said.
Peyton's literally going to own every passing record in the books by the end of his career in all likelihood.
And now he has a ring.
Brady will probably not win another one, as it appears the years of nickel and diming star players is catching up with the Patriots. The debate over which is better will be extremely clear in Manning's favor in 2-3 years, barring injury.
Ya well, three superbowls is hard to argue. I Peyton wins a second, then I will have some sympathy for your argument. But if at the end of their careers, it's still 3-1, then I don't care what Peyton's stats are, he's second to Brady.
Superbowl is the goal..not stats.
Because it's the Bible on all things manly, I thought I'd throw this into the ring.
Maxim rated the Top QB's playing today:
1. Tom Brady
2. Payton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Marc Bulger
5. Eli manning
I think the inclusion of Eli makes this list as good as gospel.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 06, 2007, 09:48:27 AM
Ya well, three superbowls is hard to argue. I Peyton wins a second, then I will have some sympathy for your argument. But if at the end of their careers, it's still 3-1, then I don't care what Peyton's stats are, he's second to Brady.
Superbowl is the goal..not stats.
Right, but it doesn't mean everything. I'm firm that Marino could never be considered the best because he didn't win one, but Peyton got over that hump. Still, Marino's much better than some QB's that won a Super Bowl, just like Peyton's going to end up better than some that won multiple Super Bowls.
Bart Starr is totally the best quarterback ever because the Packers won like 50 NFL titles with him at QB.
:yay
brady is better than manning....but you can now make argument for peyton
you come off as a simpleton when you just say 3>1
I care too
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 10:16:44 AM
brady is better than manning....but you can now make argument for peyton
you come off as a simpleton when you just say 3>1
3>1 is a better argument than just saying it's so, without any support at all.
the support should be that you've watched a single other NFL game other than the Eagles in the past 5 years
Quote from: SunMo on February 06, 2007, 10:21:48 AM
the support should be that you've watched a single other NFL game other than the Eagles in the past 5 years
There's only one person on this board outspoken about being disinterested in non-Eagles games, and he's the one who came right out and said Brady's better, but not simply because he has 2 more rings.
so it's even more obvious if the one guy who doesn't watch other games knows that Brady is better
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 06:23:46 AM
yeah the cold was a factor...but there were thousands outside not 100....and in the dome there were 50,000...still these are numbers that would pale im comparison to what northeast cities would get....its a different animal...also you have to remember that unlike the gold standard did the colts did not release any information regarding the parade until about midight sunday...so it wasnt like the people had a tonof time to rearrange work day plans to attend
at the time they were showing it on TV, there were 100 people. One line around the cars. That was it.
So, I was not exaggerating. ::)
Quote from: SunMo on February 06, 2007, 10:27:12 AM
so it's even more obvious if the one guy who doesn't watch other games knows that Brady is better
That makes even less sense.
It would be like me speaking informatively on the Flyers goalie situation, because I haven't watched even a shred of hockey this year. So, obviously, I know how bad the goalies are even more than someone who watches most of the games, right?
Your logic in defending your buttbuddy is quite backwards on this one, even if you two have a lot of support in the Pro-Brady camp.
obviously, my last statement was facetious, or maybe not so obviously
what makes the least sense of all is to take way out of context something i said two years ago and for the rest of your life use that out of context post as as a way to defend any and all positions you might have
that's what happens when you are the most popular kid in school, learn to live with your gift.
It's literally like Sun's giving IGY a reacharound every time he posts. Crazy.
So, Havas, are you telling me that you now watch a lot more non-Eagles NFL games, and you are using this new knowledge to declare Brady a better QB than Manning? Or are you just upset that you admitted the truth and that it hurts you when you're trying to defend your vast opinions about players you never see play?
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 06, 2007, 10:44:10 AM
It's literally like Sun's giving IGY a reacharound every time he posts. Crazy.
because the only thing more laughable than how everybody waits for him to post and jump all over it, is to see how mad it makes everyone when i agree with him.
all the lame attempts like "reach around" or "butt buddies" just make me laugh because i know i have to power to make somebody else on a computer mad at what i type, you can't buy that type of entertainment.
None of this will matter in 10 years, when it's clear that Jason Campbell is the best QB in the history of the league.
i wont' be around in 10 years, i have super AIDS
Then, you better make your argument now and make it good.
If it's something along the lines of "Brady's done more with less" or "Brady has 3 rings to Peyton's 1", don't bother. Let's hear something new.
Should I mention that the Patriots have had better defenses than Manning's Colts in general? It's harder to win the big one when you're carrying water for your defense all the time.
i already posted my argument...
read it, learn it, spread it
So, Havas, are you telling me that you now watch a lot more non-Eagles NFL games, and you are using this new knowledge to declare Brady a better QB than Manning? Or are you just upset that you admitted the truth and that it hurts you when you're trying to defend your vast opinions about players you never see play?
for about the 5th time just below will be a repost of the same thing i always do when you bring up this ridiculous argumet that youre incapable of letting go...once and for all stop trying to pretend youre some sort of nfl scout watching 14 nfl games a week and admit that you are like me and watch the eagles plus a "couple' other games...and even if you do on some weekends watch a game or two more than me which no doubt happens...my superior eye in watching players and games far outweighs the extra viewing you may put in....
anyway...here we go again....enjoy.....
"correct...but then neither do you....at most each week you could watch a game or two more than me...thats if i watch no games other than eagles...if i happen to watch the sunday nite monday nite or an additonal sunday game then we are essentially even...but again what does this have to do with anything...
so if you go by that then no one on here can make any statement about any players in the nfl except eagles and thats not fun for anyone...
it doesnt take a genius to know how good a player in the league is if you watch them for a few games...as ive said before give me the resources (game tape...attend workouts...travel to games...ect) and i could be just as successful a gm as reid"
It's literally like Sun's giving IGY a reacharound every time he posts. Crazy.
first of all stop teasing me
secodnly whats most ironic is that me and sun probably disagree on more things than any two people on this entire board
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 10:59:46 AM
secodnly whats most ironic is that me and sun probably disagree on more things than any two people on this entire board
Now you're just a flat-out liar.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 10:59:46 AM
secodnly whats most ironic is that me and sun probably disagree on more things than any two people on this entire board
i agree
Seriously, who didn't see that coming?
Quote from: SunMo on February 06, 2007, 11:08:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 10:59:46 AM
secodnly whats most ironic is that me and sun probably disagree on more things than any two people on this entire board
i agree
response post of the year
Sassy changed his reaction from "Ha!" to "Seriously, who didn't see that coming?"
I just thought I'd share.
It really does burn when I pee, though.
Seriously, who didn't see that coming?
this guy...
response post of the year
lol
for real tho i dont think sun was joking at all when he posted it
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 11:14:23 AM
for real tho i dont think sun was joking at all when he posted it
All the love he gives you, and you still obviously don't know him very well.
:-D
You guys are as bad as my 8th grade girls. Bicker and whine. Bicker and whine.
Quote from: SunMo on February 06, 2007, 11:08:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 10:59:46 AM
secodnly whats most ironic is that me and sun probably disagree on more things than any two people on this entire board
i agree
I actually spit water out when I read that. That was some funny shtein, dude.
:yay
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2007, 11:14:23 AM
for real tho i dont think sun was joking at all when he posted it
when am i not joking around?
i feel like you werent there...but with ff and romey spitting up drinks you cant go back now
like sarge said youre to good for something that obvious
sometimes you have to take the easy check down go on to the next play
you complete me
Deadpan responses rule. That one, although obvious, was funny as shtein.
maybe i should agree with Romey all the time, he seems to appreciate me a little bit more.
I think his head would explode.
And not the head that feels good to explode.
You're all dorks.
Manning is supposed to be the most talented and smartest QB right now. Brady's got plenty of both himself, but Manning surpasses him. The Colts offense has better players around him, but he's still in charge out there and gets things done more often than not. I'd say they're on par with the whole leadership thing.
Where Brady really excells and Manning does not is charisma, or at least he used to. He's become a little bit of the whiny bitch himself lately.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
A banning!
Billy Madison
Where Brady really excells and Manning does not is charisma, or at least he used to
and a little diddy i like to call winning in the playoffs
one of the most amazing numbers in the history of all sports is bradys 10-0 record in his first 10 postseason games....its so good that people have lost perspective on just how incredible it is
oh and 12-2 all time aint too shabby either
brady is better but at least now with mannings sb we can be having this discussion which is something that wouldnt have been possible 12 months ago
the claim that Brady merely manages the team while his defense wins games is not true. aside from his many last minute drives to win games, his career playoff stats are as follows:
14 games (12-2)
61% completion
19 TD
8 INT
226 yards per game
Peyton's Stats:
13 games (7-6)
61% passing
18 TD
15 INT
269 yards per game
Interceptions mean nothing.
you're neat
Interceptions mean nothing.
i dont get it
he's trying to be contrary, just for the fun of it
He's trying to be mpmcgraw and succeeding quite nicely.
So, they both get too much credit.
Time for truth:
I think Peyton is the better quarterback, and if I had to pick a current NFL QB to build a team on, it would be Brady.
However, I do like to argue.
stephen colberts superbowl analysis:
Outdoorsmen: If you see a bear, just pray for rain and it will fumble your children
Quote from: Father Demon on February 06, 2007, 09:49:11 AM
Because it's the Bible on all things manly, I thought I'd throw this into the ring.
Maxim rated the Top QB's playing today:
1. Tom Brady
2. Payton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Marc Bulger
5. Eli manning
I think the inclusion of Eli makes this list as good as gospel.
I don't read Maxim but I saw this on another board, wasn't this Dan Marino's list? And how he leaves McNabb and Brees off in favor of Bulger and Manning I'll never know.
Eli shouldnt be in the top 15, let alone top 5.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/379577506_47ff09b681.jpg?v=0)
and tigers oh my
I asked earlier in this thread but got no answer: does Corey Simon get a ring?
Raheem Brock does, and I'm sure he thanks Andy every day for it too.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 07, 2007, 04:32:36 PM
I asked earlier in this thread but got no answer: does Corey Simon get a ring?
Raheem Brock does, and I'm sure he thanks Andy every day for it too.
If the Colts wanted to give him one, yes.
He would be eligible for one. But since the Colts are trying to sue him for his non football injury and not pay him for this year, I doubt that the Colts will give him one.
No team is "required" to give their players a ring. But if they give it to one player on the active roster, they must give it to everyone on the active roster. Same with injured reserve. If they picked and choosed who they gave rings to, the cost of the rings would actually go against the salary cap I think.
However, Corey Simon is not on the Active roster, and he is also not on Injured Reserved, being that he is on the Non-Football Injury/Illness list, his ring status is completely up to the team.
thanks for clearing that up
Quote from: Diomedes on February 07, 2007, 04:32:36 PM
Raheem Brock does, and I'm sure he thanks Andy every day for it too.
The fact that the Eagles didn't sign him makes me hate life.
I think about it too often myself. farging idiot Eagles.
More manufactured controversy - about Prince's "shadow show" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070207/ap_on_en_mu/prince_super_bowl)
:-D
Um.... it was a guitar.
Won't someone please think of the children?
Stupid trivia from the Inquirer today: Manning is the first QB with more than one syllable in his first name to win a Super Bowl since Terry Bradshaw in 1979-80.
Donovan McNabb
AJ Feeley
Jeff Garcia
Hmmmmmmmm..........
thug life
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r94rmkbFMyU
(sean taylor vs. a punter in the pro bowl)
The Japanese version made me laugh.
you know you're a bad motherfarger when you jack up the punter in the pro bowl and he bounces right up in your face
Wow I farging hate Sean Taylor. Douche.
trash
I'd nominate Taylor for Player Most Likely To Be Arrested For Jacking Off In His Car While Waiting In Line At A Fast Food Restaurant Drive-Through And Getting Caught On Tape.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 11, 2007, 12:07:22 PM
The Japanese version made me laugh.
Yeah... it was rather hilarious.
What a weak hit. Ooh, he put a shoulder into a guy that was off balance! Daaaaaaaaaamn.
I hate Sean Taylor but I still love to see a good "decleater". Regardless of it was on a punter or not. Knock everyone out.
How the Superbowl was really won, the behind the scenes schtein...
http://www.bangcartoon.com/cartoons/index.cfm/fa/viewcartoon/cartoon/2006Archive%7Ccoltsd.swf (http://www.bangcartoon.com/cartoons/index.cfm/fa/viewcartoon/cartoon/2006Archive%7Ccoltsd.swf)
How much are they paying you? Jeez.
I saw about 5 of these I thought were funny,so I put them in threads on the same topic. Thought others would like them too and it would save them the time of rooting them out from the site. I was wrong, sorry for the crimes.