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QuoteOn Dan Patrick's radio show on Monday, ESPN analyst Michael Irvin was discussing what he sees as the great upside of Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo. About three and a half minutes into his appearance on the show, Irvin said Romo is a good athlete, then suggested that must mean he has an ancestor who is black.
"He doesn't look like he's that type of an athlete," Irvin said of Romo. "But he is. He is, man. I don't know if some brother down in that line somewhere, I don't know who saw what or where, his great-great-great-great-grandma ran over in the 'hood or something went down."
Patrick tried to suggest to Irvin that he shouldn't go there, but Irvin was having none of it, continuing:
"If great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandma pulled one of them studs up out of the barn, 'Come on in here for a second,' you know, and they go out and work in the yard. You know, back in the day."
I don't particularly enjoy watching Irvin on ESPN, but I also don't think he's as bad a guy as he's often made out to be. His well-documented legal problems seem to be behind him, and that picture you see of Irvin at a benefit for the Buoniconti Fund to Cure Paralysis shows a side of him that most fans haven't seen.
Having said all that, I'm a little surprised that we haven't heard much of anything about these comments. Although Pro Football Talk has mentioned this, a Google News search shows that no mainstream media outlet has. Given that racially insensitive remarks usually create a media feeding frenzy, doesn't that strike you as strange?
he was joking.
he was on crack.
nobody cares what he says.
enough.
Can't Michael Irvin just shoot himself?
If Irvin was white and made a crack like that, his ass would be unemployed faster than you could say Jimmy The Greek.
Let's not miss the point here. The point remains that Irvin, no matter what... should be unemployed.
If by unemployed, you mean lying crippled on the Vet turf, then I accept your definition.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 24, 2006, 05:14:23 PM
Let's not miss the point here. The point remains that Irvin, no matter what... should be unemployed.
Exactly. He should have been fired way before this. In fact he should have never been hired.
<insert IGY klan hood smilie here>
being black in these times confers few privelages. freedom to say racist shtein is one of them.
When Irvin was first an analyst I actually thought he was enjoyable. However the last two years with his continual blowing of his boy TO, I have realized that he sucks.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 24, 2006, 05:03:22 PM
Can't Michael Irvin just shoot himself?
if Romo shoots him, would that qualify for black-on-black crime?
I would think it'd qualify as ridding the world of one of it's bottom feeders.
I hate Irvin, but I don't see anything wrong with it. Blacks are way more athletic than whites, so all he is saying is he might have some black genes in him somewhere down the line.
Is that becauase blacks were bred for strength and to have bigger thighs, Jimmy?
Blacks are just more athletic. I don't know why, it's just the way it is. Anyone who argues otherwise is in denial. There are a lot of athletic white people, but there are way more blacks who are extremely athletic than whites.
I bow to the "they just are" argument. Rock solid.
Do you disagree?
Three words.
National.
Hockey.
League.
I wonder why they just aren't in hockey?
Whether Irvin's comment was harmless or not he should be fired. He's an idiot. He has no speed bump from his brain to his mouth.
Not to mention have you seen the suits he wears? Where is his fashion sense? Did he lose that when he went down at the Vet?
Irvin was talking about athleticism in terms in running fast and jumping high, because of Romo's ability to scramble. While the NHL is a sport like the other 3, and takes a lot of skill, it isn't really a sport that relies on athleticism like the NFL and NBA do and behind them, MLB.
Hell, even the best track stars ever are all black.
Not that this list is the unequivocal resource for the hardest things to do in sports, but USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ten-hardest-splash.htm) did a list of the Top 10. One could argue that hardest thing to do = requiring the most athleticism. (Caveat - I don't agree with this list, but it's all I could find in a quick Google. Personally, I think re-directing a slap-shot into the goal, some gymnastics (backward flip on the balance beam, rings, parallel bars), triathalons (a marathon PLUS swimming and bike-riding), being a great NFL quarterback, and stopping a 100 MPH slapshot all should be on a list somewhere.).
1. Hit a baseball. Considering that a major-league pitch can reaches speeds more than 95 mph, hitters have only 0.4 seconds to find the ball, decide where the ball is going and swing the bat. (Mostly blacks and Latin Americans)
2. Race car driving. Skilled drivers encounter a host of problems, but rounding the corners of the track is equivalent to having three 300-pound linemen pushing you for three of the four hours it takes to conclude a race. (Mostly whites)
3. Pole vaulting. Vaulting is a matter of redirecting kinetic energy of the runner's approach speed upward, aided by a long fiberglass pole. To do it, athletes need speed for the sprint, strength for lift-off and flexibility to bend the body over the bar. (Not sure)
4. Hitting a long, straight tee shot. Driving a golf ball far and long seems to be an easy thing, until you try it; even professionals have trouble with it. Last year on the PGA tour, only two players, Tiger Woods and Chris Smith, ranked in the top ten for both driving distance and greens in regulation. (Mostly whites)
5. Returning a serve. Traveling at over 130 mph, a tennis serve by today's top tennis players is traveling at 185 feet per second. At that speed, a player trying to return the serve has a half second to react and return the serve. (mostly whites)
6. Landing a quad. Executing a quad toe loop requires a skater to balance height and rotation while skating on a metal blade a quarter of an inch wide. During a successful quad jump, a skater will reach heights of 18 inches above the ice and experience 300 pounds of centrifugal force, all while spinning four times in just over .5 seconds. (mostly white)
7. Running a marathon. Running a 26.2-mile race is physically demanding and requires a runner to be disciplined, well-trained and able to withstand pain. Runners, including elite marathoners, often suffer from nagging injuries in the lower back, knees, shins, ankles, Achilles' tendons and feet. However, most runners will say the reward of finishing a marathon justifies the pain. (most winners are black)
8. Tour de France. The Tour de France covers more than 2,500 miles in three weeks and requires a variety of cycling skills that must be performed at levels far beyond those of recreational riders. On flat stretches of the course, tour riders must maintain speeds more than 30 mph for hours on stretch. During mountain climbs, cyclists must be able to ride up mountain roads with grades as steep as 15%. (mostly white)
9. Saving a penalty kick. On the soccer field, the goalkeeper's job is to protect a goal that is 24 feet wide and eight feet high — 192 square feet waiting to swallow a ball about 9 inches in diameter. During a penalty kick, the goalie has 0.25 seconds to move and block a ball traveling at more than 60 mph. (not sure)
10. The downhill. The downhill is an 80-mph exercise in balance and control. With little protection, ski racers hurl themselves down an icy mountain course, alternately digging in their edges to carve the fastest line through turns and putting their skis flat on the snow to gain speed in the straightaways. They fight gravitational and centrifugal forces at every stage in the race. (mostly whites)
So, if this list truly is the Top 10, and if the hardest things in sports to do require the most athleticism, then it appears as if your argument that blacks have superior athleticism is bullshtein. Blacks seem to excel at some sports, as do whites. My guess is culture, demographics, and environment.
But you go on believing your "they just are" side of things.
Most of those things don't require any physical skills, which is what athleticism is.
Irvin was talking athleticism in terms of physical in-born skills, not the ability to master a sport. For example Vince Carter is WAY more athletic than Dirk Nowitzki, but Dirk Nowitzki is the better player. Irvin was talking about pure physical skills(ie running fast, jumping high). For whatever reason black people are much better in that department. Just look through the NBA, NFL, MLB.
Name me any white players who can do what Jordan, Vick, Vince Carter, Kobe, Moss, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, etc can do.
There are white player who are athletic as well like Matt Jones, David Wright, Tim Dwight, but there are far more blacks whoa re freakishly athletic.
I have to leave this discussion. You've dumbed me down enough for one afternoon.
Mr. MVP - Steve Nash :)
Steve Nash couldn't dunk on stilts. He's a great player, but he's far from athletic.
Spud Webb and Muggsy Bogues on the other hand.... were the smallest players that could ever dunk and last time I checked neither were white.
The sports that white players dominate are always sports that require no athleticism like golf(although Tiger Woods and Sing are great players) Nascar, NHL, bowling, etc.
Do you honestly think it is a coincidence that the two sports that require pure athletic skills more than any other sports are dominated by black people? Can you even name more than 3 white RBs or the last time a white WR made the pro bowl?
How many times have white players won a dunk contest other than Barry? How many times do white athletes become best in the world in track?
I'm white myself, but to say white people are equally athletic as black people is ignorant, stupid, and moronic. If you want to argue it more, be my guest, but I will bury you. That is if you have the balls to try to make an argument over something so frickin obvious.
Hockey requires no athletic skill. Gotcha.
Some, but not a lot. You're on ice and use skates. Two, you don't even need to leave your feet.
It doesn't require nearly the same amount of athletic ability as football, basketball or baseball.
Proof that you've never played a sport in your life.
When I tried to play hockey I was awful at it. It requires a lot of balance and coordination none of which I have. The only sports I were ever good at were soccer and football.
I liked street hockey, since I could never stand on iceskates or rollerblades.
Caaaaaarrrrr!
I play sports all the time, and have since I was a kid.
Hockey requires you to be tough, endure pain, and have stamina, but as far as raw athletic ability, you don't need a lot of it.
Case in point: Take the best NHL player and have them try to run and jump with the NBA's best athletes and they wouldn't be a fraction of their level.
Plus hockey is mainly a european sport anyway, and there aren't many blacks in europe and even russia where a lot of players come from too.
Trying... to... stay... a... way.....
Dude, you're a farging retard. No athleticism required? Have you ever tried deflecting a 100 MPH slapshut into the goal? The puck is smaller than a baseball, and the hockey blade is smaller than a bat. And the distance between the shot (compared to the throw) and the deflection (compared to the hit) is usually much slower.
Case in point: Take the best NBA player and have them try to skate frontwards, backwards, sideways, stop on a dime and reverse, all while guiding a frozen rubber puck on ice, AND getting hit pushed, held, hooked, and jostled and then wind up and shoot that puck into a net that's 3 feet tall and six feet wide while being blocked by a professional hockey goalie.
And to go back to that list, for you to say that none of them takes any physical skill, proves you are a closer relation to the chimpanzee than anyone else on this board. And you're not the quiet, cute kind of dumb like the retard mopping the floors at McDonald's either. You're the loud, boisterous, obnoxious kind of dumb that makes a great case as to why post-birth abortions should be legal.
Quote from: King Cole on November 25, 2006, 08:09:21 PM
I play sports all the time, and have since I was a kid.
Hockey requires you to be tough, endure pain, and have stamina, but as far as raw athletic ability, you don't need a lot of it.
Case in point: Take the best NHL player and have them try to run and jump with the NBA's best athletes and they wouldn't be a fraction of their level.
Plus hockey is mainly a european sport anyway, and there aren't many blacks in europe and even russia where a lot of players come from too.
Dude, using that argument, shouldn't the Kenyan Olympic Basketball team win all the gold medals? If all it takes is raw athleticism? farging CHINA placed 8th in the world in 2004? Please expound on the raw athleticism of the native Chinese, if you will.
Retard.
You.
Why hasn't King Cole used the Cool Runnings argument yet!
(http://www.msstate.edu/Images/Film/CoolRunning.jpg)
baseball players more athletic than hockey players?
ok.
They must be. A lot of them are black, in case you didn't hear.
Donald Brashear is the most athletic hockey player EVER! :yay
Quote from: Father Demon on November 25, 2006, 08:19:10 PM
Trying... to... stay... a... way.....
Dude, you're a farging retard. No athleticism required? Have you ever tried deflecting a 100 MPH slapshut into the goal? The puck is smaller than a baseball, and the hockey blade is smaller than a bat. And the distance between the shot (compared to the throw) and the deflection (compared to the hit) is usually much slower.
Case in point: Take the best NBA player and have them try to skate frontwards, backwards, sideways, stop on a dime and reverse, all while guiding a frozen rubber puck on ice, AND getting hit pushed, held, hooked, and jostled and then wind up and shoot that puck into a net that's 3 feet tall and six feet wide while being blocked by a professional hockey goalie.
And to go back to that list, for you to say that none of them takes any physical skill, proves you are a closer relation to the chimpanzee than anyone else on this board. And you're not the quiet, cute kind of dumb like the retard mopping the floors at McDonald's either. You're the loud, boisterous, obnoxious kind of dumb that makes a great case as to why post-birth abortions should be legal.
lol, I've been burying you this whole argument and I was going to let you off, but you just made an ass out of yourself.
First of all you need to read. Two posts ago I said the NHL requires some athleticism, but not a lot. Secondly, your whole argument is moronic. First of all you are trying to prove to me, ignorantly at that, that whites are equally as athletic as blacks and quote some stupid opinionated SI.com article which isn't even fact to back up your case.
First of all, use your own opinions and not the opinions of others to back yourself up. I know it is hard to do when you don't know what you are talking about, but at least try. Secondly, what the hell do other sports even have to do with it anyway? If blacks bothered to even play hockey like basketball and football then they would be equally as good as white people. So the point you made is absolutely pointless.
Like I said the NHL is a white-dominated sport because of tradition. Countries like Russia, and countries in Europe are MAINLY WHITE. So this argument is moronic. Before using stupid arguments, it would help to ask yourself why something might be the case so I don't have to bury you like I am now and have been.
So if you actually have an argument and don't want to be a little girl and back out of the argument(as I see you've made an out already in case you can't handle it) then please tell me how the hell you figure whites and blacks(generally) are equally athletic. Just in case you didn't read, I used the word generally, because obviously this doesn't apply to every person in a group of people.
So if you could explain to me why a sport like basketball, which requires the most athleticism out of any sport, is dominated by black athletes? Go ahead and run me down some extremely athletic players in the NBA and NFL and lets see if they compare to the most athletic black players.
Take a stab at it.
Quote from: King Cole on November 25, 2006, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on November 25, 2006, 08:19:10 PM
Trying... to... stay... a... way.....
Dude, you're a farging retard. No athleticism required? Have you ever tried deflecting a 100 MPH slapshut into the goal? The puck is smaller than a baseball, and the hockey blade is smaller than a bat. And the distance between the shot (compared to the throw) and the deflection (compared to the hit) is usually much slower.
Case in point: Take the best NBA player and have them try to skate frontwards, backwards, sideways, stop on a dime and reverse, all while guiding a frozen rubber puck on ice, AND getting hit pushed, held, hooked, and jostled and then wind up and shoot that puck into a net that's 3 feet tall and six feet wide while being blocked by a professional hockey goalie.
And to go back to that list, for you to say that none of them takes any physical skill, proves you are a closer relation to the chimpanzee than anyone else on this board. And you're not the quiet, cute kind of dumb like the retard mopping the floors at McDonald's either. You're the loud, boisterous, obnoxious kind of dumb that makes a great case as to why post-birth abortions should be legal.
lol, I've been burying you this whole argument and I was going to let you off, but you just made an ass out of yourself.
First of all you need to read. Two posts ago I said the NHL requires some athleticism, but not a lot. Secondly, your whole argument is moronic. First of all you are trying to prove to me, ignorantly at that, that whites are equally as athletic as blacks and quote some stupid opinionated SI.com article which isn't even fact to back up your case.
First of all, use your own opinions and not the opinions of others to back yourself up. I know it is hard to do when you don't know what you are talking about, but at least try. Secondly, what the hell do other sports even have to do with it anyway? If blacks bothered to even play hockey like basketball and football then they would be equally as good as white people. So the point you made is absolutely pointless.
Like I said the NHL is a white-dominated sport because of tradition. Countries like Russia, and countries in Europe are MAINLY WHITE. So this argument is moronic. Before using stupid arguments, it would help to ask yourself why something might be the case so I don't have to bury you like I am now and have been.
So if you actually have an argument and don't want to be a little girl and back out of the argument(as I see you've made an out already in case you can't handle it) then please tell me how the hell you figure whites and blacks(generally) are equally athletic. Just in case you didn't read, I used the word generally, because obviously this doesn't apply to every person in a group of people.
So if you could explain to me why a sport like basketball, which requires the most athleticism out of any sport, is dominated by black athletes? Go ahead and run me down some extremely athletic players in the NBA and NFL and lets see if they compare to the most athletic black players.
Take a stab at it.
Ha! You said "First of all", three times... dumbass.
Black people have an extra calf muscle so they can out-run the lions and stuff.
(http://www.impawards.com/1992/posters/white_men_cant_jump.jpg)
Yes, we all love imp awards.com .
I'm not arguing with you. Retards never know when they are wrong, so it's pointless. I'll just point and laugh at you like everyone else.
Also, solid point:
Quote from: King Cole on November 25, 2006, 10:38:36 PM
(http://www.impawards.com/1992/posters/white_men_cant_jump.jpg)
That's what I thought. Chalk another win up for KC.
Arguing about which sport is more athletic has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Nor is the question of whether blacks are more athletic--a ludicrous line of inquiry--germane to this subject. The questions are:
Is it alright for Irvin to suggest an athletic white guy owes his physical prowess to one of his ancestors mating with a slave?
Is it alright for Irvin to suggest a white guy's family used to own slaves?
Answer is no.
Next question is, what's going to happen? Is Irvin gonna be allowed to skate without fanfare? Will he just say he's sorry and things will go on as usual?
There is no doubt that if he were white, this would have blown up into a huge issue already.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 26, 2006, 09:32:50 AM
Arguing about which sport is more athletic has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Nor is the question of whether blacks are more athletic--a ludicrous line of inquiry--germane to this subject. The questions are:
Is it alright for Irvin to suggest an athletic white guy owes his physical prowess to one of his ancestors mating with a slave?
Is it alright for Irvin to suggest a white guy's family used to own slaves?
Answer is no.
Next question is, what's going to happen? Is Irvin gonna be allowed to skate without fanfare? Will he just say he's sorry and things will go on as usual?
There is no doubt that if he were white, this would have blown up into a huge issue already.
Well yes, but I took exception with Clown Cole saying he saw nothing wromg with what Irvin said. Which led to all the rediculousness.
Well yes, but I took exception with Clown Cole saying he saw nothing wromg with what Irvin said
i dont know why you even address that idiot...i havent for months and wont ever again...if everyone does so perhaps hell leave...tho i highly doubt
We have bigger dicks too. All you shrimpies know that already though.
Well, yeah, Feva. You all were bred for, uh, breeding.
And IGY -- no worries. That was my last conversation with him as well.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 26, 2006, 03:39:53 PM
We have bigger dicks too. All you shrimpies know that already though.
Photo evidence?
I kid. I kid.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...
(http://www.comicstripelpaso.com/albums/beenhere/nipseyrussell.thumb.jpg)
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 26, 2006, 03:39:53 PM
We have bigger dicks too. All you shrimpies know that already though.
Link?
Once again... somebody is asking for a link to Dr. Longstroke and the twins.
Bunch of fairies around here.
Boasting about one's dick size on an internet message board = awsum.
size does matter
Boasting about one's dick size on an internet message board that has one female = awsum.
This thread has become quite hilarious. Thanks for increasing your level of douchery with every post Queen Cole.
I figured bionic would be on this thread like a moth to a flame
PFT reporting that Irvin will address the issue today:
QuotePOSTED 12:33 p.m. EDT, November 27, 2006
IRVIN TO DISCUSS COMMENTS AT 2:20 p.m. EST
ESPN spokesman Mac Nwulu tells us that Michael Irvin will address later today on The Dan Patrick Show Irvin's comments from last Monday, in which Irvin suggested that Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo's athletic ability traces to a tryst between one of the women in Romo's lineage and a large male slave.
Per Nwulu, Irvin is scheduled to appear on ESPN Radio at 2:20 p.m. EST. Here's hoping that Patrick (for whom we have a ton of admiration and respect) and Keith Olbermann (who would be going ballistic on this story if a member of the Bush administration or an employee of the FOX News Channel had made the remarks) will approach the session in genuine, non-FOX News fair and balanced fashion.
Irvin apologized for the comments on Sunday, a full six days after they were made. We're convinced that Irvin and/or the powers-that-be in Bristol chose to monitor the extent to which the story sprouted legs over the long four-day weekend before deciding to issue the apology and the accompanying statement of disapproval. Once it became obvious that the story wasn't going away, Irvin apologized and ESPN acknowledged the situation.
Of course, we doubt that there will be much if any talk of the matter on ESPN's various television networks, on which Irvin will appear tonight as part of the nine-plus hours of Monday Night Football coverage.