dumping Reid and McNabb would do wonders for the Eagles. Addition by subtraction is true. Lurie and the rest of the cronnies need to remove Reid from power. If they would have done this at the end of last year, we could have drafted Jay Cutler as the QB of the future and have Brad Childress as our head coach. Maybe then we wouldn't have to painfully watch Reid waste more and more and more timeouts. If we had an extra timeout at the end of the first half, maybe we put up seven instead of three.
What the hell was McNabb doing on that 4th down rollout ????? THrow the ball dummy, it's 4th down !!! Maybe you complete a pass, or at worse, pin the Giants down at their 5 yard line.
schoebelsballs has spoken !!
Christ.
Man, this loss is really bringing them out of the woodwork.
I'd kill for some tblatltllaltloof right now compared to this.
I've scraped dog shtein off my shoe that was better looking than this post
Yea its McNabbs fault his receivers weren't open. You rather him risk it and throw a pick? Its McNabbs fault Reid called those plays. Its McNabb's fault his 2 best receivers of the day dropped crucial passes that were given to them right on the hands. Right. Your clueless about the game of football.
speaking of schoebel, didn't we get him for his hands? mcnabb laid the ball out as good as it could be, soft and right over his shoulder, and he blew it. would have been a great way for his first home game, definitely would have got the crowd behind him.
Quote from: mussa on September 18, 2006, 01:04:28 PM
Yea its McNabbs fault his receivers weren't open. You rather him risk it and throw a pick?
YES ! It's fourth down, throw the pick ... it's like a punt at that point You're the clueless one.
or throw to schoebel in the end zone so he can drop a PERFECT pass.'
tool
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 18, 2006, 01:04:28 PM
Yea its McNabbs fault his receivers weren't open. You rather him risk it and throw a pick?
YES ! It's fourth down, throw the pick ... it's like a punt at that point
He was throwing it to Schobel, I think. He figured he had as good a chance of catching it out of play as he did right on his hands in the end zone. Calculated risk.
seriously, that ball could not have been put in a better place.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 18, 2006, 01:20:13 PM
seriously, that ball could not have been put in a better place.
Schobel prefers to catch with his balls, so McNabb should have aimed directly for his crotch... somehow.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 18, 2006, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 18, 2006, 01:20:13 PM
seriously, that ball could not have been put in a better place.
Schobel prefers to catch with his balls, so McNabb should have aimed directly for his crotch... somehow.
Matt Schoebel is a complete joke. That was laughable watching that moron try to catch that perfectly thrown touchdown pass. He should've just keep going out the tunnel, back to Cincinatti.
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 18, 2006, 01:04:28 PM
Yea its McNabbs fault his receivers weren't open. You rather him risk it and throw a pick?
YES ! It's fourth down, throw the pick ... it's like a punt at that point You're the clueless one.
You're an idiot.
It's obvious you didn't even watch the play you're bitching about. The play (a rollout pass) was designed to go to one receiver and one receiver only... and that was Westbrook. There wasn't even another receiver on that side of the field in a pattern. Westbrook ran just beyond the marker and was setting up to catch the pass when he was knocked down by a defender. McNabb had no one to throw the ball to.
Was it a dumb playcall? You bet your ass it was. But to sit up here and bitch that McNabb should "throw the pick" is uneducated as hell.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
You're an idiot.
It's obvious you didn't even watch the play you're bitching about. The play (a rollout pass) was designed to go to one receiver and one receiver only... and that was Westbrook. There wasn't even another receiver on that side of the field in a pattern. Westbrook ran just beyond the marker and was setting up to catch the pass when he was knocked down by a defender. McNabb had no one to throw the ball to.
Was it a dumb playcall? You bet your ass it was. But to sit up here and bitch that McNabb should "throw the pick" is uneducated as hell.
I watched every play moron. McNabb should have thrown the F'n ball. Throw it into the end zone if no one is open. He took a loss on the play.
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
You're an idiot.
It's obvious you didn't even watch the play you're bitching about. The play (a rollout pass) was designed to go to one receiver and one receiver only... and that was Westbrook. There wasn't even another receiver on that side of the field in a pattern. Westbrook ran just beyond the marker and was setting up to catch the pass when he was knocked down by a defender. McNabb had no one to throw the ball to.
Was it a dumb playcall? You bet your ass it was. But to sit up here and bitch that McNabb should "throw the pick" is uneducated as hell.
I watched every play moron. McNabb should have thrown the F'n ball. Throw it into the end zone if no one is open. He took a loss on the play.
and thats what cost us the game? can ppl like this be banned...who seemingly only come after a loss to bitch about mcnabb? where is the hate for westbrook or lj or stallworth? they had much more with this loss than mcnabb did. in fact mcnabb IMO had nothing really to do with this loss. he still made the throws he needed to make but his WRs dropped the balls. his RB fumbled. his coach went nuts and his defense decided to quit after the 3rd qrt.
its been clear for a while now that reid gotta go gotta go...theres no argument about that...the debate is now when hes goes...id put the over under at four years
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 18, 2006, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
You're an idiot.
It's obvious you didn't even watch the play you're bitching about. The play (a rollout pass) was designed to go to one receiver and one receiver only... and that was Westbrook. There wasn't even another receiver on that side of the field in a pattern. Westbrook ran just beyond the marker and was setting up to catch the pass when he was knocked down by a defender. McNabb had no one to throw the ball to.
Was it a dumb playcall? You bet your ass it was. But to sit up here and bitch that McNabb should "throw the pick" is uneducated as hell.
I watched every play moron. McNabb should have thrown the F'n ball. Throw it into the end zone if no one is open. He took a loss on the play.
and thats what cost us the game? can ppl like this be banned...who seemingly only come after a loss to bitch about mcnabb? where is the hate for westbrook or lj or stallworth? they had much more with this loss than mcnabb did. in fact mcnabb IMO had nothing really to do with this loss. he still made the throws he needed to make but his WRs dropped the balls. his RB fumbled. his coach went nuts and his defense decided to quit after the 3rd qrt.
This is a public message board where people have their own opinions. You even contradict yourself when you say "IMO".
All I'm saying is that I'm tired of seeing the same mistakes, mostly by Reid, over and over and over again. The leadership on this team appears to be lacking, I'd like to see it replaced ....... IMO !
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
You're an idiot.
It's obvious you didn't even watch the play you're bitching about. The play (a rollout pass) was designed to go to one receiver and one receiver only... and that was Westbrook. There wasn't even another receiver on that side of the field in a pattern. Westbrook ran just beyond the marker and was setting up to catch the pass when he was knocked down by a defender. McNabb had no one to throw the ball to.
Was it a dumb playcall? You bet your ass it was. But to sit up here and bitch that McNabb should "throw the pick" is uneducated as hell.
I watched every play moron. McNabb should have thrown the F'n ball. Throw it into the end zone if no one is open. He took a loss on the play.
Now I definitely know you didn't watch the play. He threw the ball out of bounds you stupid shtein. NFL Replay will air tomorrow night. Watch it and educate yourself.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2006, 01:49:11 PM
its been clear for a while now that reid gotta go gotta go...theres no argument about that...the debate is now when hes goes...id put the over under at four years
Only in your mind, man...
that picture threw me at first, but tate'r tots, pretty good.
I'll take the under.
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:00:13 PM
dumping Reid and McNabb would do wonders for the Eagles. Addition by subtraction is true. Lurie and the rest of the cronnies need to remove Reid from power. If they would have done this at the end of last year, we could have drafted Jay Cutler as the QB of the future and have Brad Childress as our head coach. Maybe then we wouldn't have to painfully watch Reid waste more and more and more timeouts. If we had an extra timeout at the end of the first half, maybe we put up seven instead of three.
What the hell was McNabb doing on that 4th down rollout ????? THrow the ball dummy, it's 4th down ! Maybe you complete a pass, or at worse, pin the Giants down at their 5 yard line.
schoebelsballs has spoken !!
i agre with you totally. i am tired of not winning. he has had his time, and its not working. how many more wasted timeouts andy, how many ?
Quote from: mahe34 on September 18, 2006, 01:59:50 PM
i agre with you totally. i am tired of not winning. he has had his time, and its not working. how many more wasted timeouts andy, how many ?
You only get one for that nonsense:
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I agree with this guy, its obvious to the entire NFL that benching MacNabb in favor of FeEly and firing Reed in favor of MorNingw00d is the best option at this point. w00t.
Quote from: mahe34 on September 18, 2006, 01:59:50 PM
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:00:13 PM
dumping Reid and McNabb would do wonders for the Eagles. Addition by subtraction is true. Lurie and the rest of the cronnies need to remove Reid from power. If they would have done this at the end of last year, we could have drafted Jay Cutler as the QB of the future and have Brad Childress as our head coach. Maybe then we wouldn't have to painfully watch Reid waste more and more and more timeouts. If we had an extra timeout at the end of the first half, maybe we put up seven instead of three.
What the hell was McNabb doing on that 4th down rollout ????? THrow the ball dummy, it's 4th down ! Maybe you complete a pass, or at worse, pin the Giants down at their 5 yard line.
schoebelsballs has spoken !!
i agre with you totally. i am tired of not winning. he has had his time, and its not working. how many more wasted timeouts andy, how many ?
Can the admins ban this mahe34, moats23, etc etc etc assclown already?
This is our punishment for that Extreme Skins excursion I'm sure... :sly
BAN SASSY!
Just like dumping Abreu helped the Phils...
Dumping schoebelsballs would help ConcreteField.
Schoebelsballs reminds me of Freddies Dance, only not as crazy.
Good ol' Scho-boat had a great TD catch yesterday.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 18, 2006, 01:03:25 PM
I've scraped dog shtein off my shoe that was better looking than this post
I have a midget that licks dog shtein off my shoe for me.
What's really funny to me is that this chode can't even come up with original name.
I wonder if the e-mail addy is legit: schoebelsballs@yahoo.com
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 18, 2006, 08:40:49 PM
What's really funny to me is that this chode can't even come up with original name.
I woulda gone with
Schoeballs myself.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 18, 2006, 08:43:56 PM
I wonder if the e-mail addy is legit: schoebelsballs@yahoo.com
Email verification is turned on. I think. And no, I'm not gonna go check.
you'd rather have cutler? how much bathtub crank have you been snorting? do you think QBs that can shred the giants D for 400 yards grow on trees?
brady, palmer, peyton, maybe brees
ugh. how long have you been watching the NFL for? two weeks? this league EATS qbs up and spits them out as empty shells (see culpepper, warner, bledsoe, etc.).
this loss had zippy to do with mcnabb. maybe reid... but i really think it was just a perfect storm of poor execution. dropped balls, inability to grab fumbles, dropped passes, a cornerback (hanson) who was in over his head, a stupid penalty for kicking, lewis' inability to protect the deep pass in the cover 2, etc.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 18, 2006, 02:29:34 PM
I agree with this guy, its obvious to the entire NFL that benching MacNabb in favor of FeEly and firing Reed in favor of MorNingw00d is the best option at this point. w00t.
I was thinking the same thing ::)
Actually, peckerheads like this schoebellballs just get me ready for TruckRathams appearence any time now. I can't wait!
Apparently in my absence ConcreteField removed several key filters that keep the idiots out. Is there a way to simply reroute these nuts to the Eagles message board where they can converse with all the other idiots? :paranoid
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 18, 2006, 04:27:52 PM
Quote from: mahe34 on September 18, 2006, 01:59:50 PM
Quote from: schoebelsballs on September 18, 2006, 01:00:13 PM
dumping Reid and McNabb would do wonders for the Eagles. Addition by subtraction is true. Lurie and the rest of the cronnies need to remove Reid from power. If they would have done this at the end of last year, we could have drafted Jay Cutler as the QB of the future and have Brad Childress as our head coach. Maybe then we wouldn't have to painfully watch Reid waste more and more and more timeouts. If we had an extra timeout at the end of the first half, maybe we put up seven instead of three.
What the hell was McNabb doing on that 4th down rollout ????? THrow the ball dummy, it's 4th down ! Maybe you complete a pass, or at worse, pin the Giants down at their 5 yard line.
schoebelsballs has spoken !!
i agre with you totally. i am tired of not winning. he has had his time, and its not working. how many more wasted timeouts andy, how many ?
Can the admins ban this mahe34, moats23, etc etc etc assclown already?
thats not nice
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2006, 01:49:11 PM
its been clear for a while now that reid gotta go gotta go...theres no argument about that...the debate is now when hes goes...id put the over under at four years
There is absolutely an argument about that!! And putting the over/under at four years is a little cowardly. If it is that evident to everyone I would be left with the assumption that he will be gone after this year. If he wins a Super bowl in the next three years, do you think he will be fired? Take a look at Cowher, would you fire him this year?
I get pissed as hell at Reid for some of his bone headed play calling sometimes but overall, I'm very pleased with the job he's done. He's helped turn the Eagles into one of the premier franchises in the NFL and has had a legitimate SB contender for about 5 years now. Last year was a disaster but far from Reid's fault.
Anywho, I'm sure there have been fans in Pitt who have been calling for Cowher's head for years. After all, it had been a decade since their last SB appearance. But the guy kept putting an extremely competetive team on the field year after year.
I think people make too much out of it when a coach wins a SB early in his coaching tenure with a team. It only took Billick a couple of years to win one but the Ravens haven't really been competitve since. Gruden won in his first year with the Bucs and they've done next to nothing since then.
The biggest problem in the NFL today when it comes to building championship franchises is keeping continuety among the players because of free agency. The best way to combat that is to keep continuity with the coaches. If you're changing head coaches every 5 years then you're probably not going to have a successful team. You might get lucky one year and win a SB but the long term success of the franchise has been compromised imo.
Amen to all that Sarge!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 22, 2006, 02:20:32 PM
[insight well beyond what is usually seen on this board]
:bow
All that is fine and dandy Sassy, but the man cannot manage a game. Period. He has maybe a high school level proficiency regarding clock managment and time outs, and he's positively addicted to calling pass plays. I'm tired of it. He's gotten all kinds of slack from me for years, but my good will is running dry.
How many more times do I have to watch a timeout on second down following an incomplete pass, in the 1st or 3rd quarter? How many more times do I have to watch pass, pass, pass, punt?
It's infuriating.
[insight well beyond what is usually seen on this board i agree with]
reid is NOT bill cowher
more like marty schottenheimer
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2006, 04:29:52 PM
[insight well beyond what is usually seen on this board i agree with]
reid is NOT bill cowher
more like marty schottenheimer
Bill Cowher was Marty Schottenheimer before he won a SB. Reid pisses me off but he does not deserve to go just yet.
cowher has admittedly lost some big games but he was never the cause or said to be the cause...in other words his actual coaching ability was never brought into question...people simply thought he was perhaps in the same place for too long and a change for the sake of change was needed
whereas andy and marty have shown the frightening inability to do some of the simplest game day coaching manuevers from play calling to clock managment to adjustments
well see, so far almost nothing has changed
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2006, 05:11:07 PM
cowher has admittedly lost some big games but he was never the cause or said to be the cause...in other words his actual coaching ability was never brought into question...people simply thought he was perhaps in the same place for too long and a change for the sake of change was needed
whereas andy and marty have shown the frightening inability to do some of the simplest game day coaching manuevers from play calling to clock managment to adjustments
You must not know too many Steelers fans. Until their 15-1 season there was plenty of criticism of his ability and many of their fans thought he was the reason why they lost to the Patriots in the AFCCG two years ago.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2006, 05:11:07 PM
cowher has admittedly lost some big games but he was never the cause or said to be the cause...in other words his actual coaching ability was never brought into question...people simply thought he was perhaps in the same place for too long and a change for the sake of change was needed
you couldnt not be more wrong there.
i lived in pittsburgh during the kordell stewart years...and fans and local media did exactly what you just said never happened...for the better part of 5 years. 1997 through 2001
You can't expect IGY to know that. He doesn't watch anything but Eagles games.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 22, 2006, 04:28:43 PM
All that is fine and dandy Sassy, but the man cannot manage a game. Period. He has maybe a high school level proficiency regarding clock managment and time outs, and he's positively addicted to calling pass plays. I'm tired of it. He's gotten all kinds of slack from me for years, but my good will is running dry.
I'm not saying the guy is above criticsm. He's far from it. But at the same time, there's a bunch of "great" coaches in the league who have their own faults as well. Shanahan hadn't won a playoff game without Elway until last year. Dick Vermeil didn't win a single playoff game in KC despite having one of the top offenses in the league. Tony Dungy hasn't gotten Indy to the SB either. It took Cowher like 13 or 14 years to win one with Pitt.
Every coach on that list has faults. They've all made poor decisions/adjustments during games. They've all done something at some point in time to cost their team a shot at a title. I'm not a Reid "apologist" but at the same time, I don't think there is anyone out there I would rather have coaching this team other than maybe Billicheck.
Bringing in a new coach will almost guarantee a new philiosophy. New offense, new defense or whatever. Randall Cunningham was benched in favor of Rodney Peete when Ray Rhodes brought in the WCO. In what universe should Cunningham be benched in favor of Peete? But that's what happens sometimes when you change coaches. I like most of the players we have here and would like to see them stick around for a while.
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How many more times do I have to watch a timeout on second down following an incomplete pass, in the 1st or 3rd quarter? How many more times do I have to watch pass, pass, pass, punt?
1826 more times. Get used to it. :P
i will never argue against poor time management esp in 2 min drills but the timeout issue....ive seen and see many games where teams have to burn timesouts in the 1st and 3rd qrt cause of the play clock, what the defense is showing, or whatever...thats not limited to reid.
If you take a timeout in the first or third quarter, you farged something up.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 22, 2006, 10:50:20 PM
i will never argue against poor time management esp in 2 min drills but the timeout issue....ive seen and see many games where teams have to burn timesouts in the 1st and 3rd qrt cause of the play clock, what the defense is showing, or whatever...thats not limited to reid.
The Eagles waste timeouts and it's mostly because of coaching blunders.....not getting the play in in time. And when the Eagles take a time out because of the opposing defense, it's because the play came to the huddle so slowly that McNabb does not have time to audible out of it.
And the execution of the 2 min drill has nothing to do with timeouts. Teams practice running the 2 min drill with no timeouts and the Eagles are about the worst in the league at it. Slow getting to the line, slow getting the play in. I've seen them waste 20 seconds just so they could spike the ball. Against the Giants the punt team burned a time out. The friggin PUNT TEAM! That's inexcusable. They are slow when there should be a sense of urgency. Just flat out slow. And that primarily starts with the coaching.
Okay, so I'm the only one that has seen a major improvement in getting the plays in on time this year. I guess Reid still sucks.
im sure white trash kissin cousin steel worker pittsburgh fans wanted cowher gone and claimed he was a horrid coach...but that doesnt make it so...people in the know always knew that the cat was a great football coach despite not winning the supertbowl
this is clearly not the case with reid who has had numerous coaching implosions and debacles thruout his career and everyone from joey in fishtown to igy knows it
Not going to watch Houston - Washington? Or how about Chicago - Minny? Cincy - Pittsburgh is another good 1pm game.
This is why I love the late starts. So I can watch the other games early and then settle in and watch the Birds.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 23, 2006, 12:50:12 AM
Not going to watch Houston - Washington? Or how about Chicago - Minny? Cincy - Pittsburgh is another good 1pm game.
This is why I love the late starts. So I can watch the other games early and then settle in and watch the Birds.
I'll probably just keep the Red Zone Channel on during the 1pm games. Holla.