Standing-room only - $50 each (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=55186)
so where are these 1500 people going to stand to watch the game?
we have to pay for stallworth somehow
Quote from: MURP on September 11, 2006, 04:29:16 PM
so where are these 1500 people going to stand to watch the game?
On your shoulders. Is that ok?
The St. Louis Cardinals sell about 1500 SRO tickets to each game. They have areas -- painted with yellow borders -- that SRO people are allowed to stand in. Some are decent, and some suck. I imagine Philly will be about the same....
And I'm sure the people will stay there, too.
Philly fans like being ordered around.
more tickets for razorgator to use their speed dialers to get
when will the idiots in the eagles front office learn that the people who buy individual game tickets should only be able to get them an hour before the game and must enter the stadium upon picking them up
This pisses me off because I never sit in my seat at games anyway & watch from the concourse. This means more fans jockeying for my spot.
Or more fans taking your seat.
ttllaboof's brain must be ready to explode. Too bad he's not here to tell us how the Eagles are boning the fans.
Mr. Snyder already invented this. Way to copy him, Jeffy.
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 11, 2006, 08:15:03 PM
This pisses me off because I never sit in my seat at games anyway & watch from the concourse. This means more fans jockeying for my spot.
thats why I was wondering where the Eagles are expecting the 1500 to sit. That concourse is already filled with people watching from down there. Imagine 1500 more. ha. There must be another area.
Quote from: MURP on September 12, 2006, 08:55:36 AM
There must be another area.
They didn't build anything new, so... where?
that was my original question.
Im not sure where but the way it sounded, they just got permits or the clearance from local government to allow the extra people in. My guess would be the main entrance/on the eagles nest maybe...
Not a bad deal. I stand for most of game, whether I'm at the Linc or not. Sitting makes me more tense.
leo carlin was on wip today and said the people will stand on the west side of the stadium at two different locations (north & south)
he wasnt very clear but im guessing the concourse by the headhouse and the concourse by the south gate
this is awesome news for non-ticket holders. at 50 bucks and a chance to get in. im def going to try for dallas and prob washington.
im guessing their will be some sort of barriers now, so people with the right tickets can get in. oh well its better than paying razorgator 400 or more for seats.
do you guys think it is worth it. i've only ever been to the Linc once, i can somewhat remember those areas, but between the booze consumed it's kinda blurry.
The 2 endzone areas on the Eagles side of the stadium looks to be the place where they will stick there people.
Yep...those two "open" areas in the corners. Seems they can sell "seats" for those areas without all the bother (and expense) of actually building anything.
extra 600k for the team in tickets
It's actually more when you consider the extra cut they'll get from RazorGator on the re-sale.
shhhh, thats top secret man!
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 12, 2006, 11:26:38 AM
Yep...those two "open" areas in the corners. Seems they can sell "seats" for those areas without all the bother (and expense) of actually building anything.
Always thought that within 5 years they would have built seats in those 2 areas like those bleachers in the corner of the southside endzone Visitors side.
i think they should chicken wire those two corners and put all the visiting teams fans in them....like internment camps
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2006, 11:47:22 AM
i think they should chicken wire those two corners and put all the visiting teams fans in them....like internment camps
:-D just like Guantonomo Cuba
so where and the hell on the eagles website do you go for these tickets tomorrow? prob best bet is to call a different ticketmaster location. thoughts?
Quote from: mussa on September 12, 2006, 01:43:22 PM
prob best bet is to call a different ticketmaster location. thoughts?
Yep. That's usually the best way to go. Try one in Kansas or something.
PFT.com (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm) (has a screenshot_
QuoteEAGLES SLAM ON-LINE TICKET BROKERS
The Philadelphia Eagles recently announced that the team will be selling 1,500 standing-room only tickets to Sunday's home opener against the Giants. The tickets will go on sale on Wednesday at 10:00 a.m. EDT, for $50 each.
But even though the seats have not yet been offered up for sale, on-line ticket brokers (including the Eagles' official "Fan2Fan" ticket exchange service, RazorGator.com) are selling the seats.
On RazorGator, the tickets were going for $175 each -- a healthy 250 percent markup. (We took a screen shot of the page. The link has since been revised to remove any reference to the SRO seats.)
Although the situation creates the impression that RazorGator is getting early access to the tickets, it appears that RazorGator and other companies are offering up for re-sale tickets that have not yet been re-sold.
And the Eagles aren't happy about it. We've obtained from the team the following statement:
"We are aware of and distressed by the SRO postings on numerous ticket resale sites this afternoon," said Mark Donovan, Eagles Senior Vice President Business Operations. "Absolutely no tickets have been, nor will be sold before 10:00 a.m. Wednesday and the only way they will be sold is over the internet or phone through TicketMaster as previously announced. We are contacting the websites directly to inform them of the misleading advertisement and are taking action to determine what recourse we can pursue with the sellers as we identify them."
We have since learned that the team has found a way to get the tickets removed from these sites, and that the tickets are indeed being removed -- as evidenced by their disappearance from the RazorGator site.
But is that the end of it? Who knows. We've got a feeling, however, that the Eagles will pursue this matter aggressively, and that it will encourage any fans who were bilked out of $175 for the re-sale of tickets that hadn't even been sold in the first place to pursue and any all relief that the law allows.
In our view, this episode should be a lesson to the Eagles and any other pro sports team regarding the dangers of doing business with high-tech ticket scalpers. While there might be some real benefits to a system that allows a season-ticket holder to convert a couple of seats into a tidy profit and/or that permits folks who otherwise would be required to look for a guy with the laminated "I need tickets" sign in order to buy entry to the stadium, it doesn't mean that NFL teams should create partnerships and/or relationships with these companies, especially if they're going to sell products that they don't currently have in their inventory.
Sure, they might be legitimate businesses that have a right to purchase advertising space and/or enter into sponsorship arrangements with NFL teams -- but under that logic the new Cardinals stadium would bear the name "Pink Taco."
And at least the folks at Pink Taco restaurants would never try to sell a beef burrito before the cow has been killed.
We should ask ttblatlaofloff to come back so we can apologize.
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why dont the eagles put these tickets up for sale at the linc box office? that way, they will go the fans who skip out on work/school to get em. the unemployed have a disticnt, albeit non-financial, advantage.
I'll be trying for some of these tickets myself. Hopefully, I'll be able to swing into town to see a game or two. But if not, I don't really have a problem letting free enterprise work in my favor.
Yep, I'm a fleshpop.
why dont the eagles put these tickets up for sale at the linc box office? that way, they will go the fans who skip out on work/school to get em. the unemployed have a disticnt, albeit non-financial, advantage.
that wouldnt change anything as the ticket brokers would just pay people to stand in line for them
as ive mentioned ad nauseum the way to easily fix this problem is to make all single game tickets will call....the person picking up the tickets has to have an id that matches the credit card that purchased the tix...the tix must be picked up on game day and upon receiving the tix the ticket holders must enter the stadium
All gone.
Apparently so. Ticketmaster.com says none available.
I had 4 more Titans tickets up to "pick shipping method", but the system spit me out.
I didn't really need them anyway.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2006, 09:24:24 AMas ive mentioned ad nauseum the way to easily fix this problem is to make all single game tickets will call....the person picking up the tickets has to have an id that matches the credit card that purchased the tix...the tix must be picked up on game day and upon receiving the tix the ticket holders must enter the stadium
igy for president. that is incredibly accurate.
I got 2 for Foreskins Nov. 12th. Unluckily tried for Dallas 3-4 times and then quick jumped over to Skins page and got 2. I then tried every other home game to no avail...all via internet. I called Atlanta's ticketmaster and got nothing but busy signals. Finally got put on hold, but never got through. Oh well can't complain I got 2 tickets relatively cheap :yay
dont worry in about 30 mins RazorGator will have those tix back up online
I think we should make t-shirts that say " I got screwed by Razorgator "
Quote from: mussa on September 13, 2006, 10:41:34 AM
I think we should make t-shirts that say " I got screwed by Razorgator and all I have to show for it is this lousy t-shirt."
the SRO tickets are already on stub hub and ebay.
how much?
anywhere from 100-200 each.
ttllabtoof sure is making a killing
$450 BIN for 2 (including shipping)
Quote from: Father Demon on September 13, 2006, 12:11:14 PM
$450 BIN for 2 (including shipping)
For which game? Cowpukes?
get the farg out
Yeah, it sucks. But people all over do it, not just in Philly. I've done it with Blues and Cardinals tickets I can't use, and I've done it for a couple football teams (non-Eagles) just to make a buck.
As long as teams don't put measures in place to stop this, it will continue.
Who wants to sell me some. I'll give you $20 and a deviant sexual act of your choosing.
Quote from: MDS on September 13, 2006, 12:13:59 PM
Who wants to sell me some. I'll give you $20 and a deviant sexual act of your choosing.
I actually scored 4 to the Atlanta game on New Years Eve.
If you have a donkey and some crisco we may have a deal. :paranoid
;)
Quote from: Father Demon on September 13, 2006, 12:12:47 PM
Yeah, it sucks. But people all over do it, not just in Philly. I've done it with Blues and Cardinals tickets I can't use, and I've done it for a couple football teams (non-Eagles) just to make a buck.
As long as teams don't put measures in place to stop this, it will continue.
I don't think any/many people would have a problem with that. When you say it's with tickets you can't use, that means that they are tickets you purchased with the intent of going to the game and for one reason or another, can no longer attend. It's not like you are buying up tickets by the hundreds and then selling them for insane profits.
You're like the harmless pot dealer on the corner selling dime bags for a couple bucks profit and razorgator is Nino farging Brown making millions off people. At least Nino gave out a few turkeys at Thanksgiving.
I'm eventually gonna drop close to $200 on the Gints-Eagles game in NJ. Not sure I can spend much more on foosball tickets. Plus, chances are my boy can get some free tix this year. But, still, I'd probably drop the $50 if anyone wants to sell.
Leo Carlin is actually claiming that every single SRO ticket went to "real" fans on Eagles Live. Hilarious.
Leo Carlin is actually claiming that every single SRO ticket went to "real" fans on Eagles Live
is he really
what a dumb farging icehole
I'm serious. He said they "monitored" the sales to make sure. If I cared enough, I'd call 215-339-6709 to cry foul.
We really should sell the T Shirts at Tailgates and on the front of :CF to get better servers
i got some ATL tickets
the weird thing is that the SRO tickets actually have seat numbers
for example i couldn't get two so i tried for one and got it
then did the same thing and got another one
so i got two but not together
are they gonna put bleachers up or something?
They're putting numbers on the floor for you to stand on and if you are caught standing on the wrong number you will be shot.
dont worry you wont be going to a meaningless new years eve game in 20 degree weather anyway
never know, there's a very good chance it could be important this year, what with all of the NFC East going 9-7.
im not saying that because the eagles wont make the playoffs...im saying either they will be in or out at that point...very little chance it will be to get in the playoffs
also imo thats a game that tons of people wont go to for a variety of reasons...i personally wouldnt have dropped 100 bucks on sro tickets when below face seats will be easily gotten in the lot...
tho on the other hand if it is to get in the playoffs you scored big
Quote from: mussa on September 13, 2006, 10:41:34 AM
I think we should make t-shirts that say " I got screwed by Razorgator "
how much? i cant pay much over face value!
just found out how the SRO tickets work:
as you hang over the railing in the endzone ramps Leo Carlin comes behind you and asks you to drop your pants and relax your sphincter. Then he smiles and gives you a $2 off coupon off your next purchase of $50 or more at the Eagles Store on Level 1
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on September 13, 2006, 01:58:51 PM
just found out how the SRO tickets work:
as you hang over the railing in the endzone ramps Leo Carlin comes behind you and asks you to drop your pants and relax your sphincter. Then he smiles and gives you a $2 off coupon off your next purchase of $50 or more at the Eagles Store on Level 1
only if you pay with your Philadelphia Eagles Mastercard
Get a signed Winston Justice mini-helmet!
And 15 of those lucky spectators will get a $10 off coupon for RazorGator.com towards their next purchase of Philadelphia Eagles tickets
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2006, 12:26:08 PM
Leo Carlin is actually claiming that every single SRO ticket went to "real" fans on Eagles Live
is he really
what a dumb farging icehole
"real" stands for "
Razorgator (will)
Exploit All (ticketmaster)
Losers".
The cool thing about the SRO area is if the Eagles lay an egg, you don't need to drive down to the Ben Franklin Bridge, you can just take your plunge right in the stadium.
thats retarded no one would jump off the ben franklin bridge
the Walt Whitman is much closer
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2006, 12:54:00 PM
They're putting numbers on the floor for you to stand on and if you are caught standing on the wrong number you will be shot.
Semper Fi
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 12, 2006, 05:48:43 PM
We should ask ttblatlaofloff to come back so we can apologize.
Its not easy being RIGHT all of the time. The Eagles front office is a joke. They are going to go after websites for STANDING ROOM ONLY tickets, when thousands of regualr tickets are being scalped at the EAGLES DIRECTION. Why go after someone scalping a few $50 seats, when there are people on RazorGator scalping up to 20 tickets together in ONE ROW?
Funny, funny stuff. And all of the lemmings are still agreeing with the Eagles ticket policy.
They not only are screwing the people who do not have season tickets, but now they are going to pack 750 people in each endzone meeting area, per game. Those places used to be pretty cool places to hang out and watch a few plays from, have a ciggy.
So instead of filling those corners of the stadiums with seats, they made the mistake of going for the artsy tartsy look. That's why the taterskins staidum SEATS 30,000 more people.
One mistake after another by the leadership of this team. HAH HAH HAH
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Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2006, 09:24:24 AM
as ive mentioned ad nauseum the way to easily fix this problem is to make all single game tickets will call....the person picking up the tickets has to have an id that matches the credit card that purchased the tix...the tix must be picked up on game day and upon receiving the tix the ticket holders must enter the stadium
Whoa, whoa, hold it right there. That makes way too much sense. How could the Eagles ship them to RazorGator to scalp, if they did that though?
Don't worry, if the Eagles tank this year all of the tickets RazorGator got directly from the Eagles, will be back and soold at face, like last year.
Lets see how many Giant's fans are taking advantage of the Eagles policy to scalp their own tickets this weekend.
Dude...shut the farg up. Either go protest outside the NovaCare Complex, ring WIP off the hook or write a goddamn letter to Jeff Lurie and Joe Banner. Or maybe you'll finally get that Daily News expose you were bragging about awhile ago.
We get it. The system sucks. I hate it because I get jipped every year just like every other "true fan". Go sell a kidney on the black market like me so you can go to the Dallas game. We only need one to survive.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 13, 2006, 09:34:27 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 12, 2006, 05:48:43 PM
We should ask ttblatlaofloff to come back so we can apologize.
Its not easy being RIGHT all of the time. The Eagles front office is a joke. They are going to go after websites for STANDING ROOM ONLY tickets, when thousands of regualr tickets are being scalped at the EAGLES DIRECTION. Why go after someone scalping a few $50 seats, when there are people on RazorGator scalping up to 20 tickets together in ONE ROW?
Funny, funny stuff. And all of the lemmings are still agreeing with the Eagles ticket policy.
They not only are screwing the people who do not have season tickets, but now they are going to pack 750 people in each endzone meeting area, per game. Those places used to be pretty cool places to hang out and watch a few plays from, have a ciggy.
So instead of filling those corners of the stadiums with seats, they made the mistake of going for the artsy tartsy look. That's why the taterskins staidum SEATS 30,000 more people.
One mistake after another by the leadership of this team. HAH HAH HAH
There's actually a city ordinance preventing the Linc from holding more than 70,000 people.
And I was kidding about apologizing to you, loser. Go jump off something high and land with a splat.
They are going to go after websites for STANDING ROOM ONLY tickets, when thousands of regualr tickets are being scalped at the EAGLES DIRECTION. Why go after someone scalping a few $50 seats, when there are people on RazorGator scalping up to 20 tickets together in ONE ROW?
they are 'going after' websites now because of the ruckus after the single game sales...they could care less about where these SRO seats end up...whats most sad is how stupid the eagles front office thinks the fanbase is...lets let go a press release saying how mad we are about the SRO tickets being on broker websites and everyone will forget all about our relationship with razorgator and the disgraceful way we handle our single game ticket sales
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 14, 2006, 07:39:50 AMThere's actually a city ordinance preventing the Linc from holding more than 70,000 people.
i'll assume you're right about that, i'm not sure, but as some dope pointed out the other night on the radio if we had 100K seats in the Linc, not only would the last 30K rows be horrible, what would happen if the birds have a few lousy seasons and the stadium doesn't get sold out, then idiots would be complaining that they can't watch the game on TV.
if you put those seats onsale Saturday before the game you give the fans the chance to scoop up most of those tickets rather than RazerGetter.com. Regarding what 224 said about Blackouts, its happend at the Vet and would happen again if you put 80,000 seats in the stadium. They should have built the stadium without those 2 crappy open sections, also the Eagles added the family section area and the Pepsi section after the stadium was initially configured because they wouldnt have been able to give season tix to all holders at the Vet if they didnt.
They should have built the stadium without those 2 crappy open sections
absolutely
the noise factor in the linc is nowhere near that of the vet....i recall when the designs came out everyone complained that it would allow noise out and the team said it would actually be louder in the linc because of the over hang above the upper sideline sections....i said wtf then and i still say it....wtf?
Take some responsibility and make more noise, then.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2006, 09:27:09 AM
They should have built the stadium without those 2 crappy open sections
absolutely
the noise factor in the linc is nowhere near that of the vet....i recall when the designs came out everyone complained that it would allow noise out and the team said it would actually be louder in the linc because of the over hang above the upper sideline sections....i said wtf then and i still say it....wtf?
the vet was deafening because of the way the sound echoed within the bowl, Vet was a real home field advantage. much more fun overall, and easier to get in and out of .
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 03:40:29 AM
Dude...shut the farg up. Either go protest outside the NovaCare Complex, ring WIP off the hook or write a goddamn letter to Jeff Lurie and Joe Banner. Or maybe you'll finally get that Daily News expose you were bragging about awhile ago.
We get it. The system sucks. I hate it because I get jipped every year just like every other "true fan". Go sell a kidney on the black market like me so you can go to the Dallas game. We only need one to survive.
I don't need to sell body parts to get tickets. So go cry to someone else, ditch digger.
Try thinking for yourself, and don't be the mindless lemming that you come off as.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 06:46:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 03:40:29 AM
Dude...shut the farg up. Either go protest outside the NovaCare Complex, ring WIP off the hook or write a goddamn letter to Jeff Lurie and Joe Banner. Or maybe you'll finally get that Daily News expose you were bragging about awhile ago.
We get it. The system sucks. I hate it because I get jipped every year just like every other "true fan". Go sell a kidney on the black market like me so you can go to the Dallas game. We only need one to survive.
I don't need to sell body parts to get tickets. So go cry to someone else, ditch digger.
Try thinking for yourself, and don't be the mindless lemming that you come off as.
Will you seriously shut up with this ridiculous preaching already? No one wants to hear it.
And its not because we're lemmings (think you could use that word one more time? ::) )...its because we're normal farging humans who are sick of your only "contribution" to this board being your whiny farging posts.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 14, 2006, 07:39:50 AM
There's actually a city ordinance preventing the Linc from holding more than 70,000 people.
And I was kidding about apologizing to you, loser. Go jump off something high and land with a splat.
A city ordinace on the number of people in a stadium??? I guess that ordinance wasn't around when JFK was in use.
I know talking out your arse is a part of your style, but if you are going to say something stupid like that be prepared to back it up. Do you think if there was an ordiance, that it could be changed for a billion dollar facility? wasn't there once an ordinace that said no building could be higher than Billy Penn's hat? Have you seen the skyline in the last 20 years.
Do you think I care about your apology, you are beneath me, what you say is generally siily and not worth reading. Time to kill yourself, shteinhead.
Wow, you're just begging to be banned, eh?
farging loser.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 06:54:05 PM
Will you seriously shut up with this ridiculous preaching already? No one wants to hear it.
And its not because we're lemmings (think you could use that word one more time? ::) )...its because we're normal farging humans who are sick of your only "contribution" to this board being your whiny farging posts.
Don't like it, don't read it.
You are a lemming if you give the Eagles a pass on the raping of their fans. Take a side, do some thinking, if you are able, on your own.
I am sorry I don't get into mindless ramblings about a players talents. You people say the same thing repeatedly on every thread.
Aren't you supposed to promote razorgator in every one of your posts?
I wish I could say the same thing repeatedly in just one thread. Then I'd be cool like my hero.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 06:56:13 PM
Wow, you're just begging to be banned, eh?
farging loser.
Blow me. Banned? Who cares? All of the stupid shtein that is constantly spewed out here and they would ban me.
And stop using "farging". It makes you look like a 5th grade loser. Now go away and try to learn something about football.
THen leave. Why is that so farging hard for some of you to understand?
If you don't farging like it here....LEAVE!
Its not that difficult to comprehend.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 06:58:41 PM
Take a side, do some thinking, if you are able, on your own.
I've just been touched by a Comma Angel
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:00:18 PM
And stop using "farging". It makes you look like a 5th grade loser.
:-D :-D :-D
Oh god, not a 5th grade loser!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 07:00:26 PM
THen leave. Why is that so farging hard for some of you to understand?
If you don't farging like it here....LEAVE!
Its not that difficult to comprehend.
I love it here. It is mindless drones like you that should be leaving. You have not brought one thing to the discussion involving any intelligence whatsoever. You just attack, attack, attack. Try putting together one sensible thought on the actual topic.
Either you are OK with the Eagles scalping their own tickets or you are not. If you don't care either way, why waste our time bitching at me?
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend. I did not attack you, you attacked me.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2006, 07:03:38 PM
Oh god, not a 5th grade loser!
No wonder you have 30,000 posts................
Only 29500 some, you jerk.
Broken record dude. You have 7 posts, go some place else.You have yet to bring anything intelligent or remotely discussable.
That's why you have so many, goddamn GF. How hard is it to understand? Being on the site for almost 5 years has nothing to do with it.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2006, 07:08:20 PM
Only 29500 some, you jerk.
My bad, geniius. Way to contribute. You should write a book.
Quote from: Dillen37 on September 14, 2006, 07:09:28 PM
That's why you have so many, goddamn GF. How hard is it to understand? Being on the site for almost 5 years has nothing to do with it.
Five and a half.
Quote from: mussa on September 14, 2006, 07:08:50 PM
Broken record dude. You have 7 posts, go some place else.You have yet to bring anything intelligent or remotely discussable.
OK, thank you for the advice. You are obviously a very wise person. Way to chime in on the topic. By the way, I didn't start the topic. And most of my posts are retorts to the truly stupid.
If anyone really wants to discuss the topic, I am more than willing to do that.
Can you score me a couple of these standing tickets? Should we call them standees? Help me out here.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 14, 2006, 07:08:50 PM
Broken record dude. You have 7 posts, go some place else.You have yet to bring anything intelligent or remotely discussable.
OK, thank you for the advice. You are obviously a very wise person. Way to chime in on the topic. By the way, I didn't start the topic. And most of my posts are retorts to the truly stupid.
If anyone really wants to discuss the topic, I am more than willing to do that.
See, that's the thing though. No one wants to talk to you.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2006, 07:12:28 PM
Can you score me a couple of these standing tickets? Should we call them standees? Help me out here.
Which game? The SROs are a really bad deal anyway. Yes, they get you into the stadium but the areas they are for are generally crowded already. It'll just be a mess in those areas. Someone has actally bid up a pair of the SROs on eBay to $212. There is one born every minute.
Is football the sport where there is a round ball?
I mean, I'm just some idiot chick, I have no idea.
Please...someone educate me.
I don't suppose you would know who's got them up on eBay, now would you.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 07:17:22 PM
Is football the sport where there is a round ball?
I mean, I'm just some idiot chick, I have no idea.
Please...someone educate me.
Well, for starters, if you're not in the kitchen you're wrong. ;)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 07:17:22 PM
Is football the sport where there is a round ball?
I mean, I'm just some idiot chick, I have no idea.
Please...someone educate me.
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Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2006, 07:15:14 PM
See, that's the thing though. No one wants to talk to you.
There is no one hear smart enough to put thoughts together is what you are saying. And I do agree with that. And we are not really "talking" we are typing. I am deeply hurt that no one wants to talk to me, and yet the last 20 posts are people talking to me.
Do you see the irony there? After you look up "irony", you may talk to me if you want.
He can't talk to you, he can only type to you. Stupid.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 07:17:22 PM
Is football the sport where there is a round ball?
I mean, I'm just some idiot chick, I have no idea.
Please...someone educate me.
It's... it's actually an oblong ball. ;)
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2006, 07:17:51 PM
I don't suppose you would know who's got them up on eBay, now would you.
No clue. But I know the person bidding on them is not real bright.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2006, 07:15:14 PM
See, that's the thing though. No one wants to talk to you.
There is no one hear smart enough to put thoughts together is what you are saying. And I do agree with that. And we are not really "talking" we are typing. I am deeply hurt that no one wants to talk to me, and yet the last 20 posts are people talking to me.
Do you see the irony there? After you look up "irony", you may talk to me if you want.
Actually, no one gives a shtein enough about it or you to entertain any conversation with you.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 07:20:06 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 07:17:22 PM
Is football the sport where there is a round ball?
I mean, I'm just some idiot chick, I have no idea.
Please...someone educate me.
It's... it's actually an oblong ball. ;)
It's a prolate sphereoid. GOD! Fargin' idiots around here...
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 07:21:08 PM
Actually, no one gives a shtein enough about it or you to entertain any conversation with you.
OK, thanks. But you are so wrong it makes you look dumber than the rest of the crowd. Way to stand out.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 06:46:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 03:40:29 AM
Dude...shut the farg up. Either go protest outside the NovaCare Complex, ring WIP off the hook or write a goddamn letter to Jeff Lurie and Joe Banner. Or maybe you'll finally get that Daily News expose you were bragging about awhile ago.
We get it. The system sucks. I hate it because I get jipped every year just like every other "true fan". Go sell a kidney on the black market like me so you can go to the Dallas game. We only need one to survive.
I don't need to sell body parts to get tickets. So go cry to someone else, ditch digger.
Try thinking for yourself, and don't be the mindless lemming that you come off as.
Anyone seen my shovel? My backhoe ran out of gas. I need to dig this ditch by hand. I might get cut off though because I don't know if they have wi-fi hot spots under the roads.
Go kill yourself.
You hear that Feva You Wrong. This guy speaks the Troof. The muthafarging truth. All hail the tards that are Tllabaloof and Moats23. Shortbuses for everyone.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:25:15 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 07:21:08 PM
Actually, no one gives a shtein enough about it or you to entertain any conversation with you.
OK, thanks. But you are so wrong it makes you look dumber than the rest of the crowd. Way to stand out.
Hey... I gotta be good at something, and not everyone's talented enough to be such an annoying dipshtein as yourself. Congrats.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
Do you see the irony there? After you look up "irony", you may talk to me if you want.
Have to give credit, that was nice.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:25:15 PM
OK, thanks. But you are so wrong it makes you look dumber than the rest of the crowd. Way to stand out.
He already stands out, Feva is black. Good thing I mentioned it because it has to do with the topic.
Does that impact his ability to get tickets from RazorGator?
Quote from: Dillen37 on September 14, 2006, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
Do you see the irony there? After you look up "irony", you may talk to me if you want.
Have to give credit, that was nice.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:25:15 PM
OK, thanks. But you are so wrong it makes you look dumber than the rest of the crowd. Way to stand out.
He already stands out, Feva is black. Good thing I mentioned it because it has to do with the topic.
Fight the power.
Hey ttabkhdjgiullaboof,
Where's that hard hitting Daily News expose you were promising us a few months back?
Booohooo the Eagles are big bad meanies! They scalp tickets! I'm on a one man crusade here! Help me!
farging idiot.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
There is no one hear smart enough to put thoughts together is what you are saying.
Pot?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 07:30:58 PM
Hey ttabkhdjgiullaboof,
Where's that hard hitting Daily News expose you were promising us a few months back?
Booohooo the Eagles are big bad meanies! They scalp tickets! I'm on a one man crusade here! Help me!
farging idiot.
shteinhead. You are a few months late. The article was front page Daily News. If you can find one I'll sign it for you.
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/14903101.htm
After you get done trying to read it, then read this one from this past Wednesday. In this one it refers to the first article.
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/15505703.htm
Makes you look really stupid that you are so oblivious to what is going on. The only reason the Eagles felt like they had to do something about the SRO problem is because of the first article, the fan backlash and some political folks taking a hard look at the Eagles ticket policies.
You people have no idea how big this story is or will be, outside you little chat room enviroment.
This is a message board, not a chat room. Farger.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2006, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
There is no one hear smart enough to put thoughts together is what you are saying.
Pot?
I wish. Try reading the articles I just provided for the other numbskull and educate yourself a tad.
This is a real topic and you people are so small minded that you don't even try to understand what "our" team is doing to its fans.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:37:31 PM
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/14903101.htm
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/15505703.htm
While you were away doing this... the Eagles just scalped 250 more SRO tickets away from you. Way to be.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2006, 07:38:04 PM
This is a message board, not a chat room. Farger.
Same thing when its the same 6 people saying the same things to each other. Juice.
Don't call me Juice. That's not nice.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 07:39:28 PM
While you were away doing this... the Eagles just scalped 250 more SRO tickets away from you. Way to be.
Dude, buy a vowel. You have no idea what you are talking about. But I suspect you already know that.
Good job, Dave Davies. You should kill your parents for giving you the first name Dave though. The whole first name that sounds like a last name thing is not good. John Johnson, Jack Jackson, William Williams and Dave Davies.
And stop saying shteinhead so much. Makes you sound like a 5th grader.
And for the record - I am not oblivious to what is going on. I see what you see. I also see that many, many other NFL teams do the same thing.
Good luck in your crusade. Maybe you should call WIP some more. Cry to your boy Angelo. Keep on hanging out in large groups of one, bro. I envy your life.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/superpsn/suckatlife)
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 07:39:28 PM
While you were away doing this... the Eagles just scalped 250 more SRO tickets away from you. Way to be.
Dude, buy a vowel.
Pat Sajak?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 07:42:38 PM
Good job, Dave Davies. You should kill your parents for giving you the first name Dave though. The whole first name that sounds like a last name thing is not good. John Johnson, Jack Jackson, William Williams and Dave Davies.
I know someone named Patty Patterson.
Sarge, you got owned.
ttlabtoof, I heard the Eagles were hiring Mike Tice.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 07:39:28 PM
While you were away doing this... the Eagles just scalped 250 more SRO tickets away from you. Way to be.
Dude, buy a vowel. You have no idea what you are talking about. But I suspect you already know that.
WTF are you talking about? I've never played Family Feud in my whole life.
No, he's talking about The Price Is Right. Stupid chat roomers.
Oh yeah! The Price is right with Wink Martindale!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 07:42:38 PM
Good job, Dave Davies. You should kill your parents for giving you the first name Dave though. The whole first name that sounds like a last name thing is not good. John Johnson, Jack Jackson, William Williams and Dave Davies.
And stop saying shteinhead so much. Makes you sound like a 5th grader.
And for the record - I am not oblivious to what is going on. I see what you see. I also see that many, many other NFL teams do the same thing.
Good luck in your crusade. Maybe you should call WIP some more. Cry to your boy Angelo. Keep on hanging out in large groups of one, bro. I envy your life.
Yea, like I believe you read both of those articles in under two hours (and comprehended them).
Which other NFL teams make up that "many, many" that you used. Could you be more vague?
Maybe.
Oooh...a literacy joke! You got me good! :-D
PFT.com had a list of teams awhile back that showed thier affiliations to sites like Razorgator and StubHub. Go do some research, dickbag.
From PFT.com:
QuoteTEAM INVOLVEMENT WITH SCALPING CONTINUES
Last month, there was a hue and cry in the city of steak and cheese regarding the circumstances surrounding the sale of single-game tickets. Eagles' seats were available at 10:00 a.m. on June 15, and completely gone within seconds.
Meanwhile, the team's offical web site reminded fans that plenty of marked-up tickets were available through RazorGator.com, including plenty of seats for T.O.'s October return to Philly as a member of the Cowboys.
On Saturday, the Titans sold out most of their single-game seats. But a quick series of clicks on the team's web site leads to Ticketmaster's "ticketexchange" program, which allows seats bought through Tickermaster to be re-sold at a markup.
Though the Ticketmaster program doesn't yet appear to be a vehicle for scalpers (indeed, an October visit to Tennessee from the Cowboys has no tickets available through the "ticketexchange" device), the potential is there -- and the connection to the Titans is obvious.
Also, the Baltimore Ravens recently announced a corporate sponsorship with TicketsNow, which will become the team's "exclusive online secondary ticket marketplace," a fancy term for "scalping shack."
The Washington taterskins arguably provide the most ironic example of organized scalping. Last year, the team revoked the season tickets of certain folks who were selling their seats on the Internet. But as a reader pointed out to us, there's a link on the taterskins' official site to StubHub.com, which leads directly to a page that currently allows fans to buy, among other things, someone else's season tickets for up to $10,000.
At the top of the page appears the following statement: "StubHub is the Official Ticket Marketplace of the Washington taterskins."
Other teams allowing folks who can't get tickets through the box office to buy them from a secondary source via simple navigation of the team's official web site include the Seahawks (who partner with RazorGator.com), the Saints (Ticketmaster), the Falcons (StubHub.com), the Giants (Ticketmaster), the Bills (Ticketmaster), the Patriots (Ticketmaster), who as an inducement to scalp state that the seller won't be responsible for the conduct of the buyer, the Jets (Ticketmaster), the Bengals (StubHub), the Browns (Ticketmaster), the Texans (StubHub), the Colts (StubHub), the Chargers (StubHub).
Teams that sell seats through Ticketmaster, but whose web sites don't make direct or indirect reference to the "ticketexchange" feature, include the Rams, 49ers, Cardinals, Bucs, Lions, Vikings, Panthers, Broncos, Chiefs.
None of the teams listed above are breaking the law or violating any apparent league policies by accepting sponsorship money from these companies. (Whether the companies selling the tickets are violating local scalping laws is a different issue.) But to the extent that RazorGator or TicketsNow or StubHub or Ticketmaster are paying NFL franchises for the privilege of being the "official secondary marketplace", the money received by the teams indirectly is coming from transactions in which fans are paying more than face value for seats.
It's really no different than the dude with the laminated "I Need Tickets" sign paying the home team for the right to be the official scalper for the south end of the east parking lot. The team isn't directly involved in the scalping, but is profiting from the fact that the scalping is occurring.
Still, since no one has made a stink about these arguably unseemly relationships, they have blossomed and are by all appearances flourishing.
Our take? On one hand, folks have a right to run their businesses any way they see fit, within the parameters of the law. Also, scalping is a fact of life. Whenever there are events with more interest than available seats, someone will pay more than the face value of the ticket.
But when the entity that makes the initial sale of the ticket at face value is paid to promote entities through which those same tickets can be purchased at an even higher price, the process risks taking on a "feel" that the image-obsessed NFL ordinarily would try to avoid.
We're not quite sure where the line is on this issue, but we think that several of the NFL's franchises are on the wrong side of it, and we hope that someone (perhaps the next Commissioner) will give strong consideration to creating guidelines aimed at keeping teams from getting too deep into the sack with these high-tech scalpers.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 08:14:46 PM
From PFT.com:
TEAM INVOLVEMENT WITH SCALPING CONTINUES
Last month, there was a hue and cry in the city of steak and cheese regarding the circumstances surrounding the sale of single-game tickets. Eagles' seats were available at 10:00 a.m. on June 15, and completely gone within seconds......
If you are going to bold things up, you missed the most important items in that article. Unless you are a fan of all of those other teams, which I am not. The obvious downside of such a policy we will see in the stadium this weekend. LOTS OF GIANTS FANS IN OUR STADIUM. The Eagles have made it easy for other teams fans to invade our stadium thru their own greed.
And since you did manage to find a "normal thinking" opinion, not on this message board, it would seem to vindicate the stance I have had from the get go. The Eagles are wrong and it should be stopped.
End of story.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
But to the extent that RazorGator or TicketsNow or StubHub or Ticketmaster are paying NFL franchises for the privilege of being the "official secondary marketplace",
the money received by the teams indirectly is coming from transactions in which fans are paying more than face value for seats.It's really no different than the dude with the laminated "I Need Tickets" sign paying the home team for the right to be the official scalper for the south end of the east parking lot.
The team isn't directly involved in the scalping, but is profiting from the fact that the scalping is occurring.Still, since no one has made a stink about these arguably unseemly relationships, they have blossomed and are by all appearances flourishing.
Our take? On one hand, folks have a right to run their businesses any way they see fit, within the parameters of the law. Also, scalping is a fact of life. Whenever there are events with more interest than available seats, someone will pay more than the face value of the ticket.
But when the entity that makes the initial sale of the ticket at face value is paid to promote entities through which those same tickets can be purchased at an even higher price, the process risks taking on a "feel" that the image-obsessed NFL ordinarily would try to avoid.We're not quite sure where the line is on this issue, but we think that several of
the NFL's franchises are on the wrong side of it, and we hope that someone (perhaps the next Commissioner) will give strong consideration
to creating guidelines aimed at keeping teams from getting too deep into the sack with these high-tech scalpers.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 07:56:02 PM
Oooh...a literacy joke! You got me good! :-D
PFT.com had a list of teams awhile back that showed thier affiliations to sites like Razorgator and StubHub. Go do some research, dickbag.
You didn't even know the Daily News article came out, douche bag. do your own research. "Many, many" to you is 8 or 10? Does TicketMaster count as a reseller?
I rather like this cat ttllabtoof.
Do you ever post on subjects NOT about this? Tell me, what do you think about the smoking ban in Philly? Or abortion. Yes, yes..tell us.
Yes... when his mother was pregnant with him, she should have been smoking her ass off and if that didn't work, then yes... she should have just gone ahead and had his dumb ass vaccumed.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2006, 08:48:29 PM
I rather like this cat ttllabtoof.
Do you ever post on subjects NOT about this? Tell me, what do you think about the smoking ban in Philly? Or abortion. Yes, yes..tell us.
Abortion. A woman should decide anything that has to do with her body. End of story.
Smoking ban in Philly is a joke. NJ screwed the entire state (with the exception of the casino big wigs). The leaders in Philadelphia have no idea how much business they will lose to all of those bars just outside city limits. Ever go to a smoke free strip club? Ever shoot pool and have to stop the game to go outside in the rain or snow.
I feel very badly for all of the bar/restaurant owners who have no choice on what people do in their business. I know I won't be going to Philly for any nights out once the smoking ban hits just like I have not gone to any NJ bars since the smoking ban went into effect. Conshy, Ambler, Ardmore here I come.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 14, 2006, 08:59:24 PM
Yes... when his mother was pregnant with him, she should have been smoking her ass off and if that didn't work, then yes... she should have just gone ahead and had his dumb ass vaccumed.
You obviously grew up an orphan, and for that I am truly sorry.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 08:42:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2006, 08:14:46 PM
From PFT.com:
TEAM INVOLVEMENT WITH SCALPING CONTINUES
Last month, there was a hue and cry in the city of steak and cheese regarding the circumstances surrounding the sale of single-game tickets. Eagles' seats were available at 10:00 a.m. on June 15, and completely gone within seconds......
If you are going to bold things up, you missed the most important items in that article. Unless you are a fan of all of those other teams, which I am not. The obvious downside of such a policy we will see in the stadium this weekend. LOTS OF GIANTS FANS IN OUR STADIUM. The Eagles have made it easy for other teams fans to invade our stadium thru their own greed.
And since you did manage to find a "normal thinking" opinion, not on this message board, it would seem to vindicate the stance I have had from the get go. The Eagles are wrong and it should be stopped.
End of story.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
But to the extent that RazorGator or TicketsNow or StubHub or Ticketmaster are paying NFL franchises for the privilege of being the "official secondary marketplace", the money received by the teams indirectly is coming from transactions in which fans are paying more than face value for seats.
It's really no different than the dude with the laminated "I Need Tickets" sign paying the home team for the right to be the official scalper for the south end of the east parking lot. The team isn't directly involved in the scalping, but is profiting from the fact that the scalping is occurring.
Still, since no one has made a stink about these arguably unseemly relationships, they have blossomed and are by all appearances flourishing.
Our take? On one hand, folks have a right to run their businesses any way they see fit, within the parameters of the law. Also, scalping is a fact of life. Whenever there are events with more interest than available seats, someone will pay more than the face value of the ticket.
But when the entity that makes the initial sale of the ticket at face value is paid to promote entities through which those same tickets can be purchased at an even higher price, the process risks taking on a "feel" that the image-obsessed NFL ordinarily would try to avoid.
We're not quite sure where the line is on this issue, but we think that several of the NFL's franchises are on the wrong side of it, and we hope that someone (perhaps the next Commissioner) will give strong consideration to creating guidelines aimed at keeping teams from getting too deep into the sack with these high-tech scalpers.
I don't think anyone here has tried to say that the Eagles aren't selling tickets to scalpers......at least I honestly haven't seen any posts that would indicate otherwise. And I haven't seen anyone try and say that it's a-ok for the Eagles to do it because we fans love paying more than face value for it.
But what a few posters have pointed out is that the Eagles aren't the only team doing it and it's not illegal. And they're absolutely correct.
Does it suck for the fans? Of course it does. But do you expect a business (not a team) like the Eagles to turn down a profit just to make the fans happy? It ain't gonna happen. Gone are the days when anyone actually cared what their customer thought about their product as long as it was still selling. And Eagles tickets are selling. And given the way the world works today I can't blame the Eagles for jumping on this bandwagon. If there's money out there to be made and you don't make it then someone else will.
Trust me, we're all very much aware of what's going on and I doubt many of us needed you to point that out. If you want to go on some anti ticket scalping crusade, by all means, feel free.
But quit posting the same thing over and over and over again.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2006, 09:02:47 PM
I don't think anyone here has tried to say that the Eagles aren't selling tickets to scalpers......at least I honestly haven't seen any posts that would indicate otherwise. And I haven't seen anyone try and say that it's a-ok for the Eagles to do it because we fans love paying more than face value for it.
But what a few posters have pointed out is that the Eagles aren't the only team doing it and it's not illegal. And they're absolutely correct.
Does it suck for the fans? Of course it does. But do you expect a business (not a team) like the Eagles to turn down a profit just to make the fans happy? It ain't gonna happen. Gone are the days when anyone actually cared what their customer thought about their product as long as it was still selling. And Eagles tickets are selling. And given the way the world works today I can't blame the Eagles for jumping on this bandwagon. If there's money out there to be made and you don't make it then someone else will.
Trust me, we're all very much aware of what's going on and I doubt many of us needed you to point that out. If you want to go on some anti ticket scalping crusade, by all means, feel free.
But quit posting the same thing over and over and over again.
What they are doing is unethical. Whether other teams are doing it, doesn't concern me.
It is also illegal for any fan living in PA to sell any ticket to any avent that occurs in PA for more than 15% over face. So you are wrong there.
I haven't seen one thought out post yet. Re-read the posts. If everyone else does it it must be OK is the prevailing thought. You don't tell me what to post, I wish you people would stop telling me what I should and shouldn't post. If all the dumb asses who are attacking would have not done that, I would have been done long ago. Note the time from my first two posts on this topic (one which I DID NOT START. Then look at all of the attacks. It was almost a full day before I responded.
Don't like it, don't read it. But stop telling me what I should or shouldn't do. I did get into an interesting discussion on frozen vanilla treats on the Westbrook is injured thread, so I do talk about other things.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 09:09:09 PMDon't like it, don't read it. But stop telling me what I should or shouldn't do. I did get into an interesting discussion on frozen vanilla treats on the Westbrook is injured thread, so I do talk about other things.
I have a new best friend. Get rid of
moasts23 and elect this motherfarger mod
Except I think you'll see that people continue to go to those places. They just go outside to smoke. From NYC to Scotland, people have basically obeyed the law everywhere, and bars aren't closing.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2006, 09:09:10 PM
I have a new best friend.
Except I think you'll see that people continue to go to those places. They just go outside to smoke. From NYC to Scotland, people have basically obeyed the law everywhere, and bars aren't closing.
Its not Scotland its Ireland. I know I worked over there for 3 months in 2005. The pubs over there have gotten around the law by basically building bars in heated tents in their parking lots. Vey cool places. If you get a chance to go you should. I lived in Cork.
Going outside to smoke when it is 50-80 degrees is OK. When it is raining, freezing out or snowing the bars see a drastic drop in attendance. Depends on where you are and which bars you go to. NJ was very smart to start in April, no real uproar because it has been nice weather.
Yes, and the excessive name calling isn't going to win over anyone either, so behave, bitch like the rest of us, but don't get out of line, your the one that came into our house. I agree with what Sarge said, what can you do about it? Its corporate america, gone are ther days of the mom and pop shop. Hey spread the word if you think its worth it, more power to ya.
Quote from: mussa on September 14, 2006, 09:14:08 PM
Yes, and the excessive name calling isn't going to win over anyone either, so behave, bitch like the rest of us, but don't get out of line, your the one that came into our house. I agree with what Sarge said, what can you do about it? Its corporate america, gone are ther days of the mom and pop shop. Hey spread the word if you think its worth it, more power to ya.
If you can find ONE TIME that I called someone a name, BEFORE they referred to me in a derogatory way, I will apologize.
But since I know that isn't the case, have fun looking.
As far as what I can do about, I've done plenty. But I doubt anyone here either wants to hear about it or would believe it anyway.
All I want is for Eagles fans to get Eagles tickets at cost. This is not for me, trust me. I go to all the games I want.
LMFAO
This is great.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2006, 09:19:47 PM
LMFAO
This is great.
You think? You and I must have vastly different definitions of "great." Mine's speedballs and hookers.
I've got to try that someday. At least the hookers part. What's it cost to get a couple (clean) dirty whores to pretend they want nothing more than for me to screw one of them while she laps away at the other?
I'll pass on the idiotic drugs.
You said you don't care about other teams who have this problem or worse, yet you want to solve this for eagles fans. Well my arguement is, if scalping is alive and well and even organized through tickets brokers etc...etc... why not care about the big picture? Your not going to help the fans out by just worrying about one specific team. Its just not football, its entertainment in general...I think your argument is good and I support Eagles fans rights, but your not going to solve anything thinking that way.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 09:09:09 PM
What they are doing is unethical. Whether other teams are doing it, doesn't concern me.
It's not unethical. They are selling tickets. It may be unfair because they don't seem to care who they are selling them too, but it's not unethical. What the scalpers are doing is unethical.
QuoteIt is also illegal for any fan living in PA to sell any ticket to any avent that occurs in PA for more than 15% over face. So you are wrong there.
Do the Eagles sell their tickets to razorgator or stubhub or whoever for more than 15% over face value? To my knowledge they don't. The scalpers raise the ticket prices up. Of course, I don't blame the scalper completely. I also blame the sucker who pays $200 for $50 seats.
Quote from: mussa on September 14, 2006, 09:27:53 PM
You said you don't care about other teams who have this problem or worse, yet you want to solve this for eagles fans. Well my arguement is, if scalping is alive and well and even organized through tickets brokers etc...etc... why not care about the big picture? Your not going to help the fans out by just worrying about one specific team. Its just not football, its entertainment in general...I think your argument is good and I support Eagles fans rights, but your not going solve anything thinking that way.
I'm an Eagles fan. I haven't written the NFL Security office about the subject, actually the same two investigators that got Tice. But taking on several teams at once is a tall order and I have been working in diffferent countries on and off for the last 30 months. So time is a problem too.
I have had communication with Frank Rizzo Jr and Arlen Specter and both are in agreement that it is wrong to allow the scalping of their own tickets. Especially since their on anti-scalping rule is in place and totally ignored.
I also think the subject is very interesting because you can actually track some of the tickets from Razorgator to ebay and back to the Eagles at the end of last season when no one was buying them.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2006, 09:25:50 PM
I've got to try that someday. At least the hookers part. What's it cost to get a couple (clean) dirty whores to pretend they want nothing more than for me to screw one of them while she laps away at the other?
I'll pass on the idiotic drugs.
Hell if I know - I say that shtein as a joke. My idea of paying for sex is buying her dinner, and hoping and praying that she'll give it up.
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2006, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2006, 09:25:50 PM
I've got to try that someday. At least the hookers part. What's it cost to get a couple (clean) dirty whores to pretend they want nothing more than for me to screw one of them while she laps away at the other?
I'll pass on the idiotic drugs.
Hell if I know - I say that shtein as a joke. My idea of paying for sex is buying her dinner, and hoping and praying that she'll give it up.
Exaclty how much does a bundle of hay and a bucket of oats go for these days?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2006, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2006, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2006, 09:25:50 PM
I've got to try that someday. At least the hookers part. What's it cost to get a couple (clean) dirty whores to pretend they want nothing more than for me to screw one of them while she laps away at the other?
I'll pass on the idiotic drugs.
Hell if I know - I say that shtein as a joke. My idea of paying for sex is buying her dinner, and hoping and praying that she'll give it up.
Exaclty how much does a bundle of hay and a bucket of oats go for these days?
Your mom's box
That cheap huh?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2006, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 09:09:09 PM
What they are doing is unethical. Whether other teams are doing it, doesn't concern me.
It's not unethical. They are selling tickets. It may be unfair because they don't seem to care who they are selling them too, but it's not unethical. What the scalpers are doing is unethical.
QuoteIt is also illegal for any fan living in PA to sell any ticket to any avent that occurs in PA for more than 15% over face. So you are wrong there.
Do the Eagles sell their tickets to razorgator or stubhub or whoever for more than 15% over face value? To my knowledge they don't. The scalpers raise the ticket prices up. Of course, I don't blame the scalper completely. I also blame the sucker who pays $200 for $50 seats.
It is unethical because the Eagles own anti-scalping rule on their webpage says no ticket can be sold over face. Then they direct their season ticket holder to sell them on RazorGator for lots of money. Is that ethical or unethical? Is it ethical to sell one person 20 seats together in one row, that all get put up on RG? Is it hard to sniff out the fact that the guy who owns those seats is not a fan? Why would they sell anyone 20 seats in one row? Ethical or unethical?
When selling tickets on RazorGator, they never handle the actual tickets. The ticket holder sends the tickets to the buyer. RazorGator never "buys" the tickets from the holder. They would be stupid too since so few tickets ever really sell off of RazorGator due to the priices. eBay is much cheaper, which is where most of the RG tickets end up the week of the games. So ALL RG seats from owners in PA, break the PA law.
I do agree that I feel bad for the suckers that pay those high dollar amounts.
Wow this guys really wants our attention.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2006, 07:12:28 PM
Can you score me a couple of these standing tickets? Should we call them standees? Help me out here.
Which game? The SROs are a really bad deal anyway. Yes, they get you into the stadium but the areas they are for are generally crowded already. It'll just be a mess in those areas. Someone has actally bid up a pair of the SROs on eBay to $212. There is one born every minute.
I'm sorry - weren't you the one telling us that the scalpers were losing money because there was no demand for their filthy wares? Lessee...
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 07:12:28 PM
Prices for scalped tickets are down big time, almost no tickets are moving off of RazorGator.
Genius
i wouldn't pay 50 bucks to stand up for 3 hours...i'm way too lazy.
I'm with you on that. No thanks.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 14, 2006, 10:04:04 PM
Don't try to pretend you have a sense of humor.
I have a great sense of humor, or else I wouldn't be slicing and dicing non-thinking fools like yourself.
Quote from: Cerevant on September 14, 2006, 10:23:43 PM
I'm sorry - weren't you the one telling us that the scalpers were losing money because there was no demand for their filthy wares? Lessee...
Do you think prices are up from last year? If you do, you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
What does the price of the tickets have to do with the Eagles scalping their tickets is wrong?
Two different topics. Try not to confuse them, Einstain.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 14, 2006, 10:14:31 PM
Wow this guys really wants our attention.
Way to contribute. Next time think before you type worthless drivel. No one cares about your opinions on other posters
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Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 14, 2006, 09:42:04 PMIt is unethical because the Eagles own anti-scalping rule on their webpage says no ticket can be sold over face. Then they direct their season ticket holder to sell them on RazorGator for lots of money. Is that ethical or unethical? Is it ethical to sell one person 20 seats together in one row, that all get put up on RG? Is it hard to sniff out the fact that the guy who owns those seats is not a fan? Why would they sell anyone 20 seats in one row? Ethical or unethical?
I do agree that I feel bad for the suckers that pay those high dollar amounts.
With all the ranting I've seen you do, the bolded part is the only basis for a valid argument that you have. Otherwise the actual scalping is being done by the same fans, travel & ticket agencies that have owned season tickets since they were at the Vet. Unless you have proof that the Eagles are getting a cut from the RG scalping profits, please give it a rest, because you appear either dangerously obsessive or as a manipulative scalper.
An example I can use is Wanamaker Tickets, who I have had to buy my tickets from in the past. I moved to the Philly area about 5 years ago & got my first tickets from them for the Tampa playoff game at the Vet in 2002. This agency owned blocks of seats that they would sell to travel agencies & individuals. When the Linc was built, they had to pay the PSL's for the all the seats they owned at the Vet to the tune of over a million. Why wasn't this an issue back then? They were still scalping tickets then, same as the individual seat owners who were doing the same. Why is this some conspiracy theory now?
I used to live in NEPA & started coming to games in the early 90's through bus trips run by Martz Tours. They owned blocks of seats that they also continued to own once the Linc was built. Why wasn't this a huge concern back then? You were wondering why the Eagles were selling "one person 20 seats together in one row", there's your answer. These are only two that I've been personally involved in, I'm sure there are many more.
These types of relationships allowed "real fans" who did not live in the area or had other difficulties buying season tickets, the ability to attend a game at a price they agree to. Why should these fans be disadvantaged from having access?
Once again, the disparity between the Eagles scalping policy & their ill-conceived advertising relationship with Razorgator is the only argument that you have. I'm on the shtein end of the ticket buying spectrum, so I'm not somebody who's happy to see anyone profit excessively from secondary or tertiary ticket sales.
On the other hand, as one of the "suckers" that a few of you seem to have some pity on, please explain to me the other options for buying tickets, outside of spending $20k+ for PSLs, hoping to luck into a friend who is willing to let a ticket go for cost (or slightly more) or playing the regular season ticket buying lottery? If you want to see a game, have the expendable cash and can find a ticket at an agreeable price, why should someone take an ineffectual moral stand to pass on the game experience?
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 15, 2006, 09:38:12 PM
With all the ranting I've seen you do, the bolded part is the only basis for a valid argument that you have. Otherwise the actual scalping is being done by the same fans, travel & ticket agencies that have owned season tickets since they were at the Vet. Unless you have proof that the Eagles are getting a cut from the RG scalping profits,
It is not the same fans as were in the Vet and with the vehicle of the internet the scalping has just gotten worse.
You explain to me, how do season ticket holders get from 10 to 20 seats together for the sole purpose of scalping them? Is that a good thing to you? Or should the Eagles be revoking them and giving them to people who would actually use them? Easy questions.
What "proof" do you need that the eagles are getting a cut from RazorGator? What other possible reason would they have to get involved with a scalping organization and steering their fans to use them to scalp their seats? Do you think the eagles have a hard time finding companies that want to advertise with them?
This is not a covert conspiracy, it is in the open and very obvious to anyone with half a brain. What proof do you have that they are not getting a cut and are simply doing it because they are desparate for advertising partners?
Think for yourself, this isn't very difficult to decipher. And I do buy tickets from scalpers to see the games. I buy clubs better value. This is not an ethical issue for me, but it should be for the team.
Perhaps if you weren't so abrasive, your message would have a better chance of being heard.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2006, 10:57:46 PM
Perhaps if you weren't so abrasive, your message would have a better chance of being heard.
Rationalizing with him could work. Good point.
People said the same to me at first. Look at me now!!
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 15, 2006, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2006, 10:57:46 PM
Perhaps if you weren't so abrasive, your message would have a better chance of being heard.
Rationalizing with him could work. Good point.
I'm too tired to be pithy like you.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PMIt is not the same fans as were in the Vet and with the vehicle of the internet the scalping has just gotten worse.
With the advent of the internet, it's gotten easier to scalp & it's become more out in the open, it has not necessarily increased the numbers that significantly . There is probably some validity to your argument though regarding the crowds being different, as with the cost of the PSL's being prohibitive, fans with money who don't want to attend all the games have bought into season tickets when the previous owners couldn't afford them.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PM
You explain to me, how do season ticket holders get from 10 to 20 seats together for the sole purpose of scalping them? Is that a good thing to you? Or should the Eagles be revoking them and giving them to people who would actually use them?
I already explained it to you. I gave you 2 first hand examples. Ticket/travel agencies that owned blocks in the past, retained them once the Linc was built. Is that a good thing to me personally? Actually it may. Who ends up with these seats? Fans who either don't have the money for PSL's or aren't native & had the ability to get season tickets when they were easily available. Either way they go to people "who actually use them". Do I enjoy paying 2 to 3 times face value? farg no, I'd rather put that money to other uses, but if I want to see a game, I have the ability to get one at a cost I can agree upon.
If you had to take an Eagles fan test to buy tickets, some fans are still going to scalp them regardless of the internet or lack of agencies buying seats in bulk, which will increase the scalped price & reduce the availability to a different segment of the fan base. Either way some "real fans" lose.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PM
What "proof" do you need that the eagles are getting a cut from RazorGator? What other possible reason would they have to get involved with a scalping organization and steering their fans to use them to scalp their seats? Do you think the eagles have a hard time finding companies that want to advertise with them?
This is not a covert conspiracy, it is in the open and very obvious to anyone with half a brain. What proof do you have that they are not getting a cut and are simply doing it because they are desparate for advertising partners?
Advertising revenue? Like you, I think it's inappropriate for all of the NFL teams that I'm aware of, to have relationships with agencies like Stubhub, Razorgator, since it's contradicts their scalping policies. Being sponsor whores is what the NFL is about, like it or not, but it does not neccesitate the relationship that you are indicating exists. If you had real proof, this would be a break out story & you wouldn't be wasting your time posting your conspiracy theory here.
Eagle fans screwed over. I got my SROs for 11/12.
What's the problem? :P
Quote from: qwert246 on September 16, 2006, 12:31:21 AM
Eagle fans screwed over. I got my SROs for 11/12.
What's the problem? :P
People will do worse than point and laugh. Watch your cornhole.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 16, 2006, 12:32:56 AM
People will do worse than point and laugh. Watch your cornhole.
We'll meet up for a drink so I can hit you with a rusty shank. :-*
I'm not going to that game. I'm waiting until the following week to see the Eagles take on a REAL team: the Titans.
Quote from: qwert246 on September 16, 2006, 12:31:21 AM
Eagle fans screwed over. I got my SROs for 11/12.
What's the problem? :P
So you and the DTC will finally come to Philly, eh? Partying with The Mayor must be an honor.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2006, 12:52:50 AM
Quote from: qwert246 on September 16, 2006, 12:31:21 AM
Eagle fans screwed over. I got my SROs for 11/12.
What's the problem? :P
So you and the DTC will finally come to Philly, eh? Partying with The Mayor must be an honor.
You bring your buddy the trashman and we'll have him and teh mayor fight to the death.
Man, you put me in a bad spot. But I'd have to root for the sanitation engineer because he is an Eagles fan. Normally I'd root for an ass whuppin on his part.
But I think we could get a drunk chick to beat the piss outta The Mayor. He's a lightweight.
man this ucks mds wanted some damn tickets. that little cracker leo carlin better give me 1 of 2 things. tickets or sex. xaus i hear guys named leo gots some big schlongs and boy howdy i would lvoe me thaaat.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2006, 01:06:05 AM
Man, you put me in a bad spot. But I'd have to root for the sanitation engineer because he is an Eagles fan. Normally I'd root for an ass whuppin on his part.
But I think we could get a drunk chick to beat the piss outta The Mayor. He's a lightweight.
Gasoline. Douse. Both. Matches. Marshmallows.
Mmmm....marshmallows.
Gimme some graham crackers and chocolate and let's makes S'mores!
You want to make smores over a garbage fire? :sly
When you're drunk even garbage s'mores would taste good. I think.
A small price to pay to see both of those fargers burnt to a crisp.
i just sold an extra Giants ticket
....on Razorgator
....for $350
....to a Giants fan
....who molests children
Gene's coming to the game?
Gene Parmesean?
This last page is the reason why you should read an entire thread before posting.
I jumped in at page 10, and have absolutely no idea what y'all are talking about.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2006, 10:57:46 PM
Perhaps if you weren't so abrasive, your message would have a better chance of being heard.
Perhaps if people weren't so quick to attack, I wouldn't have to be abrasive. Read my first couple of posts, were they abrasive?
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 15, 2006, 11:29:45 PM
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PMIt is not the same fans as were in the Vet and with the vehicle of the internet the scalping has just gotten worse.
With the advent of the internet, it's gotten easier to scalp & it's become more out in the open, it has not necessarily increased the numbers that significantly . There is probably some validity to your argument though regarding the crowds being different, as with the cost of the PSL's being prohibitive, fans with money who don't want to attend all the games have bought into season tickets when the previous owners couldn't afford them.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PM
You explain to me, how do season ticket holders get from 10 to 20 seats together for the sole purpose of scalping them? Is that a good thing to you? Or should the Eagles be revoking them and giving them to people who would actually use them?
I already explained it to you. I gave you 2 first hand examples. Ticket/travel agencies that owned blocks in the past, retained them once the Linc was built. Is that a good thing to me personally? Actually it may. Who ends up with these seats? Fans who either don't have the money for PSL's or aren't native & had the ability to get season tickets when they were easily available. Either way they go to people "who actually use them". Do I enjoy paying 2 to 3 times face value? farg no, I'd rather put that money to other uses, but if I want to see a game, I have the ability to get one at a cost I can agree upon.
If you had to take an Eagles fan test to buy tickets, some fans are still going to scalp them regardless of the internet or lack of agencies buying seats in bulk, which will increase the scalped price & reduce the availability to a different segment of the fan base. Either way some "real fans" lose.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PM
What "proof" do you need that the eagles are getting a cut from RazorGator? What other possible reason would they have to get involved with a scalping organization and steering their fans to use them to scalp their seats? Do you think the eagles have a hard time finding companies that want to advertise with them?
This is not a covert conspiracy, it is in the open and very obvious to anyone with half a brain. What proof do you have that they are not getting a cut and are simply doing it because they are desparate for advertising partners?
Advertising revenue? Like you, I think it's inappropriate for all of the NFL teams that I'm aware of, to have relationships with agencies like Stubhub, Razorgator, since it's contradicts their scalping policies. Being sponsor whores is what the NFL is about, like it or not, but it does not neccesitate the relationship that you are indicating exists. If you had real proof, this would be a break out story & you wouldn't be wasting your time posting your conspiracy theory here.
Lots of good points in there.
There are definitely thousands of tickets being scalped for every game. The advent of the internet has probably increased the number of tickets being sold up to 10 fold. Anyone can scalp their tickets now. Back in the 80s and 90s, very few of the regular fan could have sold their tickets. The only outlet would have beenyour store front ticket agency and you would only be getting slightly above face. The ticket broker made all of the money. Now the ticket holders themselves see 100 of the profits.
The story has already been written and the NFL is very aware of this building problem.
Some of my message to the folks reading this board is how much the Eagles front office is screwing the fans.
Some is how they are screwing their own team, by making it very easy for opposing fans get seats just as easy as the Eagles fans. And at the same time having Eagles fans have to outbid Giants fans for tickets.
Some is just education on how eagles fans can get tickets t the lowest price possible.
If somehow all of the talk makes the Eagles do what is right, then it would all be worth it. They have already admitted they didn't like the negative publicity the RG story generated. This was obvious in the way they reacted after the SRO sale. But they are not real smart, probably on purpose, on how to stop or curtail the scalping. Making the SRO's pcikup before game time only, and only sold the wee of the game would have reduced the scalping to zero. They chose the money grab method. This is why there are a hundred SRO auctions on eBay already.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 17, 2006, 04:04:57 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2006, 10:57:46 PM
Perhaps if you weren't so abrasive, your message would have a better chance of being heard.
Perhaps if people weren't so quick to attack, I wouldn't have to be abrasive. Read my first couple of posts, were they abrasive?
Did I attack you?
Quote from: ttllabtoof on September 17, 2006, 04:04:57 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2006, 10:57:46 PM
Perhaps if you weren't so abrasive, your message would have a better chance of being heard.
Perhaps if people weren't so quick to attack, I wouldn't have to be abrasive. Read my first couple of posts, were they abrasive?
Perhaps you should stop whining like a little girl and take our attacks like a man.
Oh yeah, and stop posting novel-length blocks of text. No one wants to read that shtein.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 20, 2006, 04:35:52 AM
No one wants to read that shtein.
The simple solution is, of course, not to read it.
I don't read it. I just glance at the block of text and start ridiculing. Come on dude, you knew that already. I'm barely literate.
I can't believe this thread is still alive. Poor form. All of you.
So back on subject, for those who went to the game sunday, where are the standing level sections and how did it look?
they are in the NW and SW corners of the stadium...i only saw the SW corner and it appeared as it always does but with a lot more people
Did you see the guy getting escorted out of 211 during the game? He was up in the top row...and I think he had one of those SRO tickets. Apparently he made himself enough of a niusance that people narced on him.
so getting in as early as possible and staking a spot up front will prob be a good idea?
Quote from: mussa on September 20, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
so getting in as early as possible and staking a spot up front will prob be a good idea?
In the past, people would start clearing out of the conscourse right before the game started, so you could just jump right in. I walked up to my usual spot 10 minutes before game time & it was about 3 deep with SRO who said they planned on standing there, so I headed up yo my seat instead.
Looking down during the game though, it didn't seem any more crowded than normal, though there appeared to be mroe people on the catwalks.
i saw him get the boot sus but i no idea why
word thanks for feedback on that. i'll prob just try to get there early and get up front to be safe. how many hrs before kickoff do doors open?
They'll open a day early for you.
Got my standing room tickets yesterday for Skins game Nov. 12th. I'm so gonna be gellin.
i hope you're tall.
I'm not, thats why im trying to get there early, get up front. :-\
You should get hit over the head with a garden hose.