You may even be talking about it in the Darren Howard section...but I like Trent Cole and do not think Kearse is a threat at DE. What are the possibilities we turn Kearse into an outside linebacker full time? Is that even possible? Barber, Trotter and Kearse wouldn't sound bad at all. Question is...the money he makes...probably too much for a linebacker. Anyways...I was just fantasizing....just like I was about the Eagles shoring up the o-line.
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Why don't you think Kearse is a legitimate threat at DE?
Now that teams can't double team him, I think he'll return to his past form, Chuggie.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 07:59:53 PM
Why don't you think Kearse is a legitimate threat at DE?
Now that teams can't double team him, I think he'll return to his past form, Chuggie.
ditto. This whole "kearse sucks" crap is getting old. That line was complete GARBAGE last year and he was doubled and worse all season because there were no other threats on that line.
Most of last season is a painful blur, but I remember more Mamulas then double teams.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 08:02:05 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 07:59:53 PM
Why don't you think Kearse is a legitimate threat at DE?
Now that teams can't double team him, I think he'll return to his past form, Chuggie.
ditto. This whole "kearse sucks" crap is getting old. That line was complete GARBAGE last year and he was doubled and worse all season because there were no other threats on that line.
Uhhhh I hate to say it, but you could write for ES with that material. Kearse did suck last year, as did 99.9% of the team.
Yes, EVERYONE sucked last year. But Kearse does not SUCK in general.
A little help on that line and he'd have been fine.
Did you see ND Kalu? He was awsome.
My point exactly.
Kearse is overpaid. OVERPAID! CASH OVER CAP!
Cheese graters and wood rasps are a lot more fun than people think. You should try them out.
I honestly believe last season was an aberration where Kearse is concerned. He had almost no help on the d-line. Walker sucked ass, Hollis was useless, and Cole and Patterson were just getting their feet wet, so of course teams double and triple-teamed #93.
Seriously, with Howard coming in, the line automatically becomes one to be reckoned with. And I don't think they're done with it yet. The DT position will also be reinforced either in the draft or via free agency. It's going to happen and it's not a question of whether it will happen, it's only a question of when.
I just see Kearse as a tall, fast linebacker. I consider Jason taylor more of an end than Kearse. Even the first season with us....its not that he sucks....its just that I don't see him being productive on the field as a DE. Now, if he could be a 4th LB that could drop into coverage or rush the line....that seems to fit him better. It's like Kearse is his own position. Definitely doesn't do real damage or scare anyone at DE...well...it seems to be that anway since last season.
Howard gives them a legit DE opposite of Kearse.
Come to think of it, this starting tandem is the first time in years that the Birds have had two studs at DE. Not since the Simmons and Reggie days have we seen this.
However, in order for Howard and Kearse and Cole to get it done the Birds HAVE TO get another DT or two that can push the middle.
If a QB can step up in the pocket, no one will get sacks.
That is why we saw a lot of Mamula's from Kearse last year. He'd beat his guy and then get the edge and when he'd get there the QB was stepping up and throwing the ball.
Push up the middle = no room for QB = sacks for DEs = Happy Eagles fans.
If we wouldve given fatass Simon the gabillion dollars he wanted, we couldve still had this problem.
C'mon man, 400 pound pass rushers solve all problems.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 08:10:47 PMIt's going to happen and it's not a question of whether it will happen, it's only a question of when.
I love it when people say this. It's like saying don't worry...God will save us. :-D
Well, I could go the other way and cry like a bitch after a whole four days of free agency has passed...
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 08:22:19 PM
Well, I could go the other way and cry like a bitch after a whole four days of free agency has passed...
:-D
I didn't say I didn't like it. ;)
If old a$$ Strahan can do it, your damn right the Freak can do it. The Giants improved their defense last year(I say that mildly) compared to the year before, and its like Strahan saw the light somehow. Having 2 legitimate outside threats is a huge bonus on any defense...and were fortunate enough now to have them both.
Pressure on the QB to step up in the pocket now. Last year, QB's were sitting back there eating a cheese sandwhich, doing the Kid-N-Play kickstep, and winking at the cheerleaders before they threw the ball for gods sake!--draft a solid DT in the draft, keep our rotation, and DB's back to the ProBowl. The run D automatically got better....I can dig it.
Reese
It's weird but I almost think Kearse is too light. I think Strahan is heavier and stronger than him. I picture Kearse as a ragdoll when he's trying to get in. Jason Taylor...probably weighs the same as Kearse. It's my own skewed perception of this guy...but I honestly think he's past his prime. Either teams have caught up to him...or he's scared to get hurt and go all out...but there's something missing about him. He's not the threat he used to be.
Kearse (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133332)
Strahan (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4337)
10lbs. differance? Seems more like a 30 pound differance to me.
Quote from: hbionic on March 13, 2006, 08:32:27 PM
It's weird but I almost think Kearse is too light. I think Strahan is heavier and stronger than him.
In your crystal ball for the next season, do you also see Chad Johnson dancing like an idiot after a touchdown and Andy Reid running the ball less than he claims he wants to?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: hbionic on March 13, 2006, 08:32:27 PM
It's weird but I almost think Kearse is too light. I think Strahan is heavier and stronger than him.
In your crystal ball for the next season, do you also see Chad Johnson dancing like an idiot after a touchdown and Andy Reid running the ball less than he claims he wants to?
Leiutenant Literal, I have been caught up in the middle of a thought. Forgive me for posting the obvious.
What I mean is that Kearse is ineffective to me at the spot because he's Pinkstonish for his position.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2006, 08:14:05 PMCome to think of it, this starting tandem is the first time in years that the Birds have had two studs at DE. Not since the Simmons and Reggie days have we seen this.
They weren't "studs", but the Fuller/Mamula combo of '96 wasn't that bad....
Fuller was dope. I almost wish Mamula was a second faster. All of those hurries... :'(
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2006, 08:38:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2006, 08:14:05 PMCome to think of it, this starting tandem is the first time in years that the Birds have had two studs at DE. Not since the Simmons and Reggie days have we seen this.
They weren't "studs", but the Fuller/Mamula combo of '96 wasn't that bad....
True....Esp. considering Andy Harmon was out early that year.
I wonder if Mamula has anything left.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2006, 08:38:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2006, 08:14:05 PMCome to think of it, this starting tandem is the first time in years that the Birds have had two studs at DE. Not since the Simmons and Reggie days have we seen this.
They weren't "studs", but the Fuller/Mamula combo of '96 wasn't that bad....
I liked Fuller. And forgot all about Mamula.
I remember the DE situation in 1998 was so bad after Hugh went out that they actually had Trotter playing some DE.
Quote from: hbionic on March 13, 2006, 08:32:27 PM
It's weird but I almost think Kearse is too light. I think Strahan is heavier and stronger than him. I picture Kearse as a ragdoll when he's trying to get in. Jason Taylor...probably weighs the same as Kearse. It's my own skewed perception of this guy...but I honestly think he's past his prime. Either teams have caught up to him...or he's scared to get hurt and go all out...but there's something missing about him. He's not the threat he used to be.
Of course hes past his prime, he was the fastest end when he entered the league. That happens when you age and have been in the league throwing your body around like Superfly Snuka. Either way he will be even more effective penetrating the outside now. Keep the faith on Kearse regardless......hes the best end weve seen here in Philly in a while.
And today they signed the best end we've seen in a while that might actually do something.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 13, 2006, 09:05:22 PM
And today they signed the best end we've seen in a while that might actually do something.
I know, because Kearse was totally USELESS in 2004. ::)
The same number of sacks as the year everyone agrees that he was worthless, so, yeah.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 13, 2006, 09:08:09 PM
The same number of sacks as the year everyone agrees that he was worthless, so, yeah.
And it was very well known on here that in 2004, kearse's sack total did NOT reflect his actual play. He had games where he disrupted the crap out of the QB all game long but had only 1 or 0 sacks.
More Mamulas! Woo!
the fact that you just compared Kearse and Mamula is probably the most ridiculous thing you've ever posted.
Can't you two see that you're in love with each other?
Preposterous, even.
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 13, 2006, 09:08:09 PM
The same number of sacks as the year everyone agrees that he was worthless, so, yeah.
And it was very well known on here that in 2004, kearse's sack total did NOT reflect his actual play. He had games where he disrupted the crap out of the QB all game long but had only 1 or 0 sacks.
He should have our total respect for almost taking of Jake Delhomme's head that season. I still play that clip in slow mo when I'm bored. I sometimes even watch it wearing clothes.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 13, 2006, 09:26:30 PM
He should have our total respect for almost taking of Jake Delhomme's head that season. I still play that clip in slow mo when I'm bored. I sometimes even watch it wearing clothes.
Goddammit! Why did I read that last sentence?
WHY DID I READ THAT LAST SENTENCE??
WHY DID I READ THAT LAST SENTENCE!?!?!:puke
:-D @ Beermonkey
Ha! Funny stuff, Beermonkey. You've been on your game lately. Don't think us humor snobs haven't noticed.
I doubt this question is serious, but the answer is DE is a more important position than LB. Also, Kearse would have to learn a much different style of play.
However, he could line up as a 'Joker' a lot more. Whether or not that would help, I don't know.
Kearse got pissed on by Vrabel, how's he going to do covering Shockey, Witten, and Cooley?
Quote from: hbionic on March 13, 2006, 07:57:23 PM
What are the possibilities we turn Kearse into an outside linebacker full time? Is that even possible?
actually, it was brought up when we signed Kearse. And when im bored enough later today, I will dig it up and smack you in the face.
He started out as a Saftey in College at Florida and moved up to outside linebacker and was an all american at LB. By his senior year he was a DE.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 09:24:52 PM
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