Nine.
That's right.
Nine.
Considering that the Eagles had about 6 offensive plays before they were down 17-0, I don't think it's realistic to expect them to have attempted to establish the rush today.
Not a good day to bring up the lack of running. In a hole too early to establish the run. Hell, Dallas didn't punt until the 4th quarter.
Nine. I've seen LOTS of blowouts in the years I've been alive and I'm not sure i've ever seen a team run NINE times in a game no matter what the circumstances.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 09, 2005, 08:14:02 PM
Nine. I've seen LOTS of blowouts in the years I've been alive and I'm not sure i've ever seen a team run NINE times in a game no matter what the circumstances.
I was hoping they'd run at the end of the game just to keep the clock moving.
Anyone who uses the 'We were losing and needed to pass every down' argument can eat my balls.
Do you think that there was a single person anywhere in Texas who thought that the Eagles were going to run when they were losing? Do you think that maybe the element of surprise could work in our favor at that point? You know, maybe, just maybe, runing more than, oh 25% of the time would be more effective. CALL ME CRAZY. farging embarrassing.
wah
That's a really good point, wingspan.
Go bye week!
I can't believe you want the bye to win. Fargin Skins fan ...
Quote from: General_Failure on October 09, 2005, 08:50:28 PM
I can't believe you want the bye to win. Fargin Skins fan ...
Eat animal porn. Ass.
Animal porn is too high in cholesterol.
Also, NINE rushes.
Just think about that. Nine.
I was expecting six.
Nine dude. Nine.
I'm more surprised that he only threw it 30 times.
FIRE ANDY REID!!
we're inching towards the previously unmatched 75% passing play mark. what a farging joke.
Quote from: Larry on October 09, 2005, 10:00:05 PM
I'm more surprised that he only threw it 30 times.
I'm sure he would have thrown more if a few of those had been complete.
rjs is my hero
you all can eat shtein.
all of this we-need-to-just-accept-that-andy-reid-won't-run bullshtein is bullshtein. every coach on every level knows that you need to run. Apparently AR didn't get the memo. Idiot.
We ran 9 total times vs the Steelers last year.
I meant another team. Coached by another coach. Saying 'the coach you're complaining about did the same thing last year' only proves my point further.
9 rushes up the gut with Westy or a couple of them with Gordon isnt how this team should run.. what about pulling more, pitching it even
I want to see one drive, just one, where Andy says, we're gonna bust this shtein up in your grill and runs the ball like 7, 8, 9 plays in a row. I think I would orgasm if they just ran 3 times in a row, first second and third down. pathetic.
what about pulling more, pitching it even
listen to this man...westbrook isnt a btwn the guards runner...can we get a toss sweep every other series...
I know some of you guys want to run the ball a lot, but all it does is force us to pass on 3rd down because if we run on 1st and 2nd down then we end up at 3rd and 8. We need a new FB, Parry is terrible, and this team right now just can't run the ball period. The line isn't run blocking well.
He did...once. Trying to protect a lead vs. the Titans a few years back...but we ended up losing that game, so that probably turned him off the running game for good.
Quote from: Larry on October 09, 2005, 10:17:08 PM
He did...once. Trying to protect a lead vs. the Titans a few years back...but we ended up losing that game, so that probably turned him off the running game for good.
:-D
Cecil Martin... stuffed.
That was the end of the running game for Andy. Nah, but in all seriousness, we ran the ball a ton in 2002. We got a lot of running TDs that year. Once that season ended, he just abandoned it totally it seemed.
We havnt run the ball since Duce put up 200 week 1
Quote from: rjs246 on October 09, 2005, 08:09:28 PM
Nine.
That's right.
Nine.
That happens when you're down by 14 in the 1st Quarter. Besides, who is going to run the ball for you? :sly
Quote from: rjs246 on October 09, 2005, 10:14:02 PM
I want to see one drive, just one, where Andy says, we're gonna bust this shtein up in your grill and runs the ball like 7, 8, 9 plays in a row. I think I would orgasm if they just ran 3 times in a row, first second and third down. pathetic.
Unless the NFL is switching to a 5 or 6 down system there is 0.0% chance of that ever happening.
FIRE ANDY REID!!
Quote from: Avenger on October 09, 2005, 10:16:59 PM
I know some of you guys want to run the ball a lot, but all it does is force us to pass on 3rd down because if we run on 1st and 2nd down then we end up at 3rd and 8.
just wondering how many times that has happened?
Quote from: MURP on October 09, 2005, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: Avenger on October 09, 2005, 10:16:59 PM
I know some of you guys want to run the ball a lot, but all it does is force us to pass on 3rd down because if we run on 1st and 2nd down then we end up at 3rd and 8.
just wondering how many times that has happened?
Like every game.
Yeah. How often does Reid run the ball on 2 consecutive plays?
Through the first three games, wasn't Westbrook averaging 4.5 yds/carry? Yeah, we weren't running much, but it was working. Now we don't run at all. And Reid throws this in our collective faces by RUNNING PLAY ACTION ON NEARLY EVERY fargING PASS!! Jesus jumped-up larraping Christ, who the farg is ever going to buy that shtein.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 09, 2005, 11:59:30 PM
Yeah. How often does Reid run the ball on 2 consecutive plays?
I think this only happens at the end of games, when the QB takes a knee to run out the clock.
In all fairness, I don't think it matters even a little bit how much the team did or didn't run. They had no chance to win that game with the defense going out there and doing their best keystone cops impersonation.
It does matter. Whether you're trying to come back from a huge deficit or not you still hav to mix in some running plays. Play action is a joke on this team. No one respects it. The Cowboys just pinned their ears back and made bee-lines for McNabb all day. Reid needs to get his farging massive head out of his even more massive ass and realize that running the farging ball is important to making sure his QB doesn't get murdered every week.
Agreed. As far as blame goes:
ST > Def > Off
It would be nice to see Lamar Gordon used. Atleast he smashes it up in there instead of dancing around like a fairy. If Reid isnt gonna use him he might as well cut him and pick up a 57th Olineman.
Well, you make a good point, rjs.
Dallas did not respect the play-action. Kansas City still was held in check by the play action fakes despite the Birds not running and Reid didn't think it would happen this week, I guess.
So maybe this will open his eyes when he watches the film 47 times.
But they did use him. Didn't you see that pass that was intended for him in the endzone? That's obviously why they picked him up. To be our pass-catching running back. Christ, I can hear Andy Reid's thought process right now "I'll put Gordon in and pass it to him! They'll never expect us to pass the ball! I mean, seriously, who would sub in Lamar Gordon for Brian Westbrook and then pass him the ball? It's brilliant! Passing!"
the play action isnt respected by anyone other than defense that totally blow ass chunks. I think Reid uses the playaction to get McNabb moving around instead of having him drop straight back. Either way, its stupid.
yeah... and the play Gordon ran for 5 yards. "what, five yards? That sucks. We cant run that play again the rest of the game. Who wants 5 yards when you can throw it for zero."
Again, despite the 9 rushes, which is truly ridiculous, McNabb just missed Lewis and Westbrook for sure TDs. If he was on his game, it might have went differently (i.e. 40-38). The real problem was giving up huge chunks of yards on ST and the defense's inability to guard anyone bigger than my 3 yr old son.
One two three four five six seven eight nine.
:puke
thats part of the problem. No QB in the NFL is on every game of the season. hence the need for a rush game. If Mcnabb isnt playing great the offense just stops.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 10, 2005, 10:14:19 AM
Again, despite the 9 rushes, which is truly ridiculous, McNabb just missed Lewis and Westbrook for sure TDs. If he was on his game, it might have went differently (i.e. 40-38). The real problem was giving up huge chunks of yards on ST and the defense's inability to guard anyone bigger than my 3 yr old son.
Right, but what's the best way to slow down an opponent that's having its way with your defense? Control the ball on offense. Keep their O off of the field. Running the ball helps that, especially when your QB is playing like open ass.
That half-roll out from McNabb is the remnant of the play Reid drew up 3 years ago. He put it in the playbook because McNabb was struggling with his thumb; I remember the game it was first used -- against the Jets.
I don't even think it's purpose is to make the defense think playaction; I believe it's nothing more than a rhythm procedure.
if each of those 9 rushes went for 80 yards...i bet no one would be complaining.
which that very well could have happened if you gave TO his contract.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 10, 2005, 10:59:55 AM
if each of those 9 rushes went for 80 yards...i bet no one would be complaining.
which that very well could have happened if you gave TO his contract.
This post makes no sense.
Quote from: MURP on October 10, 2005, 10:07:57 AM
the play action isn't respected by anyone other than defense that totally blow ass chunks I think Reid uses the playaction to get McNabb moving around instead of having him drop straight back. Either way, its stupid.
Our playaction sucks because McNabb couldn't play fake my 14 yr. old JV player. He just plain doesn't look like he's trying, at all. And I agree with RJS in the respect that you could tell McNabb was hurting on the first offensive series, and maybe we should have tried to establish the run more to take the pressure off Dmac. At least it looked like he was hurting to me. He threw in the dirt almost every pass on that first possesion, one to a wide open TO. Then, later in the game he's overthrowing TO, Bwest and Lewis for what would have been big gains. After seeing him yesterday and this being a buy week, I'm starting to hope McNabb has changed his opinion on having surgery now or after the season.
I agree with MURP that the run isn't gonna' be established with Bwest, and Gordon should be running between the tackles if thats the kind of running plays your gonna' call. Why keep trying to run Bwest up the middle for 1 and 2 farging yards every time you try to run? IT AIN'T FARGING WORKING GODDAMMITT!!
Is it just me or does the title of this thread sound like a really cool name for a rock album?
:paranoid
I think the Cowboys caught wind of our super-secrety gameplan to pass the ball 80% of time when they realized we had no FB: Parry was inactive for the game.
So who was back there for the obligatory singleback Westbrook-wide play? Spach?
Quote from: MURP on October 09, 2005, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: Avenger on October 09, 2005, 10:16:59 PM
I know some of you guys want to run the ball a lot, but all it does is force us to pass on 3rd down because if we run on 1st and 2nd down then we end up at 3rd and 8.
just wondering how many times that has happened?
well I went and did a little waste of time research. Considering we all know they need to rush more Im not sure these stats really show anything other than continue that....
I looked at the last 11 games the Eagles starters have played (didnt bother with the Rams and Bengals from last year). So last 11 are: Dallas, KC, Oak, San Fran, Atl, NE, Atl, Minn, Dallas, Wash, GB.
I did not count a drive where McNabb scrambled, only called handoffs from Reid.
- In those 11 games Reid has started an offensive drive with two consecutive handoffs a grand total of 13 times.
- Of the 13 total times, 7 were in the 4th quarter.
- Of the 7 times in the 4th quarter, 5 were under 3 minutes to go in the game. In other words about 40% of the times Reid started off a drive with two consecutive rushes, the Eagles were running the clock out in the last few minutes of the game.
- Of the 13 times, the same RB had both of the carries only 6 times. If Reid does use consecutive rushes to start off a drive, he usually rotates who will get the second carry.
- as far as yards are concerned: 4 of the 13 times the Eagles got a first down within the first 2 rushes.
4 of the 13 times the Eagles had 3rd down and 4 or less yards to go.
there is some worthless trivia for ya.
Quote from: MURP on October 10, 2005, 10:07:57 AM
the play action isnt respected by anyone other than defense that totally blow ass chunks. I think Reid uses the playaction to get McNabb moving around instead of having him drop straight back. Either way, its stupid.
I think Reid uses the play action to set up the run. When the defense see McNabb going to hand the ball off they drop into pass coverage because they know better. So on those 2 or 3 plays a game when he actually does hand it off the defense is totally suckered. Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket. :paranoid
So how did you figure all that out, MURP? That ginormous book from that uber football nerd?
just went to NFL dot com and scanned through each games play by play write up.
Nine. I still can't get over that. AND at least one of them was a little scramble by McNabb inside the redzone. So really, it was 8 rushes. Incredible.
I'd like to see Reid call 0 runs one week just to see peoples heads explode.
60 passes
0 runs
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2005, 08:44:50 AM
I'd like to see Reid call 0 runs one week just to see peoples heads explode.
60 passes
0 runs
Count me among the many who's heads would explode. What a mess.
Would it be discussed if we won by 20?
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 13, 2005, 09:12:36 AM
Would it be discussed if we won by 20?
Yes. Why let our QBs come under pressure in a blowout?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2005, 08:44:50 AM
I'd like to see Reid call 0 runs one week just to see peoples heads explode.
60 passes
0 runs
I'd like to see them get blown out again but run 35 times, so people can say "Hey, we got shtein-canned but at least we ran more."
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2005, 08:44:50 AM
I'd like to see Reid call 0 runs one week just to see peoples heads explode.
60 passes
0 runs
Exactly what this thread has had me thinking. 100% pass, 0 rushes. The exploding heads I would love to watch would be on CBS, NBC, ESPN, Fox and NFL Network. God, that would be hilarious!
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 13, 2005, 09:12:36 AM
Would it be discussed if we won by 20?
Over and over and over and..........maybe it wouldn't be so hilarious after the third week.
Quote from: MURP on October 10, 2005, 05:06:52 PM
[li]Of the 13 total times, 7 were in the 4th quarter. [/li]
Alas! It will never happen. Andy will screw it up in the fourth quarter.
When's the last time Reid lost a game when leading by more than a touchdown? I think it was that Tennessee game where he tried to run out the clock in the second half; hence, his aversion towards the run.
When's the last time Reid lost a game when leading by more than a touchdown?
when the last time mcnabb had a sports hernia...and couldnt move...or throw very well
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2005, 11:26:57 AM
when the last time mcnabb had a sports hernia...and couldnt move...or throw very well
week 1
week 2
week 3
week 4
Spadaro defends pass-wacky philosophy (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=37818)
I want to vomit after reading that.
Guess what?
Don't look for a lot of running this week either.
SD's run D? 3rd in the NFL.
Their secondary blows. TO is going to devour Jammer.
for real...i just lost my pancakes...thanks for posting that dick
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 21, 2005, 08:24:29 AM
for real...i just lost my pancakes...thanks for posting that meatcicle
Blueberry? Banana nut? Plain?
I agree with Spew. As long as Owens and Westbrook are getting open -- which they are despite the fact teams know we're passing -- and as long as the line protects McNabb, which they have more or less, I'd keep throwing. >:D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 21, 2005, 08:23:10 AM
Guess what?
Don't look for a lot of running this week either.
SD's run D? 3rd in the NFL.
Their secondary blows. TO is going to devour Jammer.
Fine, I'm all for doing what needs to be done to win. But if AR isn't going to run, would he please stop calling play action? No one is impressed, and it just forces Donovan to turn his back to the defense instead of reading it.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 21, 2005, 10:39:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 21, 2005, 08:23:10 AM
Guess what?
Don't look for a lot of running this week either.
SD's run D? 3rd in the NFL.
Their secondary blows. TO is going to devour Jammer.
Fine, I'm all for doing what needs to be done to win. But if AR isn't going to run, would he please stop calling play action? No one is impressed, and it just forces Donovan to turn his back to the defense instead of reading it.
No one is impressed nor more importantly fooled. Donovan is pretty weak at faking it anyway-I don't know if he even really turns his back to the D.
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 21, 2005, 11:03:47 AM
No one is impressed nor more importantly fooled. Donovan is pretty weak at faking it anyway-I don't know if he even really turns his back to the D.
Agreed - he exaggerates the hand off, bending over almost in half to cover the ball. When he does hand it off, he doesn't follow through with the fake, he looks over his shoulder and watches the play.
Jammer is a penalty machine.
Play-action isn't just to fool with defense. I know McNabb's play action fakes suck. Qincy Carter was a better seller of the play action fakes than McNabb.
However...when Reid calls PA passes it's not just to hold LBs. A lot of the Eagles protection schemes are out of the PA pass. So many times he calls them because of that.
God forbid we ever use the play action to fool a defense. That would just be stupid.
How many times did we run last game?
I think it might be something like 7, 8, or 10. Definitely not nine, though. That'd be silly.
They're going for a perfect ZERO today! :D
10 rushes for Westbrook and 4 scrambles by McNabb and a win by the skin on their farging teeth. I'm going to pull my hair out now.
why dont you just kill yourself. it would make a number of things easier.
By the way the line was blocking, we shouldn't have run the ball at all.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 23, 2005, 05:34:18 PM
10 rushes for Westbrook and 4 scrambles by McNabb and a win by the skin on their farging teeth. I'm going to pull my hair out now.
C'mon - look on the bright side - they almost doubled the number of called runs from last week!
The Chargers defense is much better against the run, and Reid always likes to have at least one game to show he does things his way and doesn't listen to the media, his running back, his QB, all of his fans, or even his conscience.
By the way... at the time of this post, San Diego is #3 in the NFL in rushing defense (yards/game).
And Denver, Next week's opponent? They're #5. But their passing defense is #26. It doesn't take Nostradamus to figure out that the gameplan isn't going to be much different on offense for at least one more week.
We outran a great running team. I'll take it.
I think we can run against Denver if we play our cards right. Their d-line isn't very big and I think we could push them around and open up holes. They persue well though but we need to stick with it next week.
PERIOD!
Quote from: TO is GOD on October 23, 2005, 09:30:53 PM
I think we can run against Denver if we play our cards right. Their d-line isn't very big and I think we could push them around and open up holes. They persue well though but we need to stick with it next week.
PERIOD!
Being able to run and actually doing it are two very, very different things.
I predict no more than 15 called rushes next Sunday.
And out of those 10 rushes today, 1 was that retarded draw play on 3rd and long late in the fourth quarter. Brilliant.
I love the retarded draw play. It's always good for exactly one yard plus or minus.
Consistency is the hallmark of consistently good teams... and consistently sucky ones.
not that it matters a whole lot...but there were 3 or 4 running plays (on 1st & 10 or 2nd and 5ish) negated by penalty.
QuoteI'm gonna make a no-duh call here: Duce Staley, if he can ever stay healthy, might just prepare for the reality of playing elsewhere in 2006. Willie Parker is both the present and the future in Pittsburgh's backfield.
This is from SI.com....lets bring back Duce. ;)
Wait. You mean a RB who can catch AND run between the tackles?! Inconceivable!
Quote from: rjs246 on October 24, 2005, 09:38:02 AM
Wait. You mean a RB who can catch AND run between the tackles?! Inconceivable!
I'd only want him back if he could stop whining about being hurt all of the time like he has since he got to Pittsburgh. I guess he SHOULDN'T have been the every down back like he wanted.
The problem, of course, isn't who our runningbacks are. I'm more than happy with Westbrook, Gordon and Moats. The problem is our farging head coach won't call any goddamned running plays. So bring back Duce. Don't bring back Duce. It makes no farging difference.
Duce is done anyway.
I would love for Reid to call 15 straight running plays to start the game next week. I don't give a shtein how good the Denver rushing D is. Fat farging chance.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 24, 2005, 10:09:49 AM
I would love for Reid to call 15 straight running plays to start the game next week. I don't give a shtein how good the Denver rushing D is. Fat farging chance.
Buddy Ryan did that once against Denver. Ran it right down their fricken throats to start the game and marched down the field to score an opening touchdown. I was watching the game at Tavern on Green in the city and can still remember thinking I was watching a team other than the Eagles on the field. That team was all-Randall/all the time just like this one is all-Donovan.
If they did come out with a gameplan like that, I guarantee the opposing defense wouldn't know what hit them.
Of course, it would never happen in a million years.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 24, 2005, 09:52:09 AM
The problem, of course, isn't who our runningbacks are. I'm more than happy with Westbrook, Gordon and Moats. The problem is our farging head coach won't call any goddamned running plays. So bring back Duce. Don't bring back Duce. It makes no farging difference.
Also, the OL is out-of-practice running the ball.
Even my girl mentioned yesterday, why don't they run the ball to the sides? One thing I did like yesterday was more screen plays to Westy. They seemed to have used this play less this year, when last year and the year before it was a huge play for our offense. Maybe they are affraid to leave McNabb vulnerable? I'd like to see more runs period, to the outside and a hell of alot more screens to Westy and Gordon also.
I said the same thing, mussa. Run outside for the love of god!
By the way...
Dawkins was on Quite Frankly with Screamin' A. and he took a shot at Big Red...
Said that the Eagles offense is like playing Madden. When the run game isn't working you abandon it and go straight passing.
So now Big Red is catching flak from all over the joint. Time for him to put on a kevlar vest and helmet and hunker down.
YO ANDY...RUN THE EFFING BALL.
farg that. Promote Childress and make Reid the GM. He's great in the front office, but a big farging doofus on the field.
The Eagles called 5 total in the final 3 quarters. 5.
If Andy doesn't run this sunday then I don't think he's ever going to. Right now that is still hope. The Broncos run defense is ranked high, but IMO that entire defense is overrated. Those Browns castaways are bums. They will come down to earth eventually, believe it.
19 rushes this week vs. 36 passes! 35/65! Andy's creating a rushing juggernaut before our eyes!
3 of those were McNabb scrambles. Don't get excited. 29/71. fargers.
That's practically 50/50 in the world of Andy Reid.
the first quarter was played vs a 9-0-0 defense. what good would running have done?
after they forced the broncos to back off....the run/pass was actually about 60/40 for the rest of the game.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 31, 2005, 12:49:38 PM
the first quarter was played vs a 9-0-0 defense. what good would running have done?
after they forced the broncos to back off....the run/pass was actually about 60/40 for the rest of the game.
Remind me again how the offense did by passing every down in the first quarter. Did they do well? I don't remember.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 31, 2005, 12:49:38 PM
the first quarter was played vs a 9-0-0 defense. what good would running have done?
they were blitzing, a screen or quick trap could bust you a long touchdown, you have to at least show them you'll do it.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on October 31, 2005, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 31, 2005, 12:49:38 PM
the first quarter was played vs a 9-0-0 defense. what good would running have done?
they were blitzing, a screen or quick trap could bust you a long touchdown, you have to at least show them you'll do it.
You mean, like, the quick hitch to T.O. where he made one guy miss and was gone down the sideline?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on October 31, 2005, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 31, 2005, 12:49:38 PM
the first quarter was played vs a 9-0-0 defense. what good would running have done?
they were blitzing, a screen or quick trap could bust you a long touchdown, you have to at least show them you'll do it.
they did try though. putting 9 guys on the line was a little more than blitzing. mcnabb would have 1/2 a step to to read and throw, and an handoff would have gone no where. (the couple they tried went no where).
to set up a screen, you need time to move the linemen out to the right or left. how would that have happened with 9 defenders comeing straight to the qb?
the offense did eventually break that, and then were able to play their own game. thats where i give them credit. the only way to break the 9 man line was to find a way to beat it but unless you put 1 man out and keep 9 in to block, there was no way to beat it through conventional ways. but they did which is why they do deserve some credit for fighting through that and then putting together some drives to bring the momentum back to the eagles.
if you have TO 1 on 1 and 9 guys are rushing McNabb it should be a TD every time. McNabbs passes were terrible to start out the game. Just brutal. Any sort of accurate passes in the first couple drives would have solved the issue.
Quote from: MURP on October 31, 2005, 01:01:54 PM
if you have TO 1 on 1 and 9 guys are rushing McNabb it should be a TD every time. McNabbs passes were terrible to start out the game. Just brutal. Any sort of accurate passes in the first couple drives would have solved the issue.
Which takes us back to the point that McNabb has no business suiting up for this team week after week right now.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: MURP on October 31, 2005, 01:01:54 PM
if you have TO 1 on 1 and 9 guys are rushing McNabb it should be a TD every time. McNabbs passes were terrible to start out the game. Just brutal. Any sort of accurate passes in the first couple drives would have solved the issue.
Which takes us back to the point that McNabb has no business suiting up for this team week after week right now.
nah. Dallas played the Zero coverage the other year and McNabb sucked then too. The guy just has below average accuracy when he is hurried like that and he is streaky as hell. Its a wonder that every team doesnt blitz like that every game. McNabb made some great throws in the Denver game which showed the hernia isnt stopping him from doing so. Does it affect him some, yeah. Does the hernia account for his ridulous passes? nah. He has been doing that his entire career.
McNabb's accuracy is obviously worse overall than in 2004, and the injury is to blame. Admitting that will be your first step to true inner peace.
The truth is he accuracy has been in questioned his entire career. Sure, the hernia isnt helping his cause, but to excuse all his crap passes on injury is nonsense.
I'm not saying he doesn't have accuracy issues regularly or that every incompletion is the hernia's fault, but a healthy McNabb would have completed at least 3 or 4 of those first 12 passes yesterday and would probably be over 60% on the season. McNabb as is might be lucky to complete 50% of his passes before season's end.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 01:42:43 PM
but a healthy McNabb would have completed at least 3 or 4 of those first 12 passes yesterday
right or wrong, im not so sure I believe that.
I hate this farging offense.
Michael Robinson > Donovan McNabb
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 02:46:24 PM
Michael Robinson > Donovan McNabb
talk about some inaccurate throws...
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 02:46:24 PM
Michael Robinson > Donovan McNabb
Ha.
No. I hate Michael Robinson too.
Tony Hunt > Brian Westbrook
Deon Butler > Terrell Owens
Tamba Hali > Jevon Kearse
Paul Pozluszny > Keith Adams
Wait, that last one might be true... :paranoid
yeah, the last one is true.
McNabb is inaccurate this year because he's getting happy feet because he anticipates being clobbered every time he hikes the ball. He gets rid of it earlier than he wants and one hops it. I think the injury also causes him to panic a little because he may be afraid of getting crushed.
Quote from: TO is GOD on October 31, 2005, 03:37:19 PM
McNabb is inaccurate this year because he's getting happy feet because he anticipates being clobbered every time he hikes the ball. He gets rid of it earlier than he wants and one hops it. I think the injury also causes him to panic a little because he may be afraid of getting crushed.
A running game is a quarterbacks best friend. :-D
Now I see why rjs loves L.J. Anyone else see the "Eagles Report" on PE.com?
Paraphrased soundbite from L.J.:
QuoteI think we can definitely move the ball on offense against this team. We have to get the run going again. I mean, we'll pass the ball too, that's what we do, but we need to get Westbrook the ball, get Lamar the ball, get Westbrook the ball. We need to run.
That's not why I love LJ. That's why I love common sense. Anyone with two brain cells rubbing together can see that the team needs to run more.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 06, 2005, 09:24:35 AM
That's not why I love LJ. That's why I love common sense. ANyone with two brain cells rubbing together can see that the team needs to run more.
:yay
And I'm not 100% sure that LJ even has two brain cells.
mcnabb sucks this year because his stomach wall has a hole that you can fit a softball thru...why does this not get mentioned more...yeah you hear about it...but you hear more that hes struggling...hes in a slump...hes got a bruised rib...his chest is banged up
the guy cant run and cant throw the ball more than 12 yards becuase hes all herniated up...period
yeah the running game would help and they absolutely should do it more but even if they run and it opens up play action or some other patterns they arent getting now mcnabb still has to make the throw and i dont think he can do it on a consistent basis
hes got a hernia and thats why the team is not going anywhere this year...i cant wait if they lose tonight or next week to hear how its all cause they suspended TO...when in reality that will be just another in the long line of reasons why mcnabb is off...when really there is only one
Nine rushes, dude. Nine.
Without TO, undoubtedly the Eagles will run the ball more often.
We're aiming for 11! >:D
Quote from: rjs246 on November 06, 2005, 09:28:25 AM
And I'm not 100% sure that LJ even has two brain cells.
He fumbled one of them. Only one left.
Dude, seriously, you're obsessed with the fumble thing. You make him sound worse than Tiki Barber used to be. He's not. He's not even close.
I'm obsessed with it because it is a problem. Obviously it isn't in the Tiki/Jamal Lewis category because a TE doesn't have the amount of touches a RB does. But the dude needs to learn how to carry the ball.
LJ loves to catch the ball, sling it way away from his body and leave the point open to a defenders helmet to knock it out of there.
It is a problem he needs to fix before it costs them a game. It almost cost them the OAK game.
I'll put this in here since the other thread caught the master lock...
Lightbulb head said that the deal with Westbrook could be done by tonight.
Average of $5M per season
No info on SB money...
And the Eagles have $9.6M in cap space.
So, all it took to get Reid to truly balance out the offense was the Eagles losing their starting QB, starting WR's, and 3/5 OL. More than 50% of the plays yesterday were runs. Amazing what this Westbrook kid can do with it when they actually get him the damn ball.
The OL was moving guys out yesterday too. The TD run by Westbrook was a thing of beauty. Andrews getting to the second level and sealing off the backside pursuit was sweet.
Todd Herremans and Adrien Clarke were also blowing guys off the ball.
Todd "wost manneans" had an all-around solid game. KGB was a factor in maybe 1 or 2 plays.
The play call on Westbrook's TD was sweet. Runyan did a great job pulling into the middle. It was a very complicated blocking scheme, and the guys all pulled it off well.
All told, the Eagles ran for 180 yards on 34 carries, a 5.3 ypc clip. If McMahon had even a half-decent passing day, the Eagles run away with that one, causing Favre to throw up a lot more passes in desperation.
Too bad McMahon sucks moose dick.
McMahon didn't have a great day, but it's not like his receivers really helped him out.
34 rushes. And all it took was for half of their offensive starters to be sitting at home. Yay!
I wish they would balance out the offense and not run the ball so much. Andy Reid loves to run it.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 28, 2005, 09:59:10 AM
I wish they would balance out the offense and not run the ball so much. Andy Reid loves to run it.
:-D
Joe buck kept on mentioning how reid was keeping it conservative. You cannot please these people.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 28, 2005, 09:59:10 AM
I wish they would balance out the offense and not run the ball so much. Andy Reid loves to run it.
If we could wrangle Carlos back from the Soul, then we'd have the talent to go pass-wacky once again!
Yeah right, good luck with that. The Soul front office is much better than the Eagles FO. No way they make the same mistake the Eagles did.
I bet the Soul would trade Carlos for TO.
So who's gonna start the thread "Nine Passes"?
Just thought this thread deserved a bump after this week's glorious showing...
10 rushes. 10.
:boom
2 of which were McNabb scrambles on passes and 1 was an end around to Jackson.
3 RB's that have some skill....and they had the ball 7 times rushing.
Quote from: Munson on January 04, 2010, 10:03:30 PM
2 of which were McNabb scrambles on passes and 1 was an end around to Jackson.
3 RB's that have some skill....and they had the ball 7 times rushing.
Reid football.
i still think nine rushes would be a great name for a rock album.
and I miss winger.
she's only seventeen
this is exactly what sets me on fire. they balance out the offense finally and they end up with a 6 game winning streak. then they get smacked in the face, panic and go back to the pass. they had 5 rushing attempts in the first half against the cowturds. desean was the leading rusher at half with 6 yards! how is this possible! we ain't going to beat good football teams this way. its so obvious it hurts. i really don't know how this is allowed to go on in a NFL team for this long without somebody saying ok, this just doesn't work. and what happened to McCoy and Weaver? Bench Westbrook or make him number 3, I am sorry he's not contributing at all.
Quote from: Larry on October 09, 2005, 10:00:05 PM
I'm more surprised that he only threw it 30 times.
I forgot all about Larry.
Come back, Larry!
farg, you Larry. Die in a hole.
whats larrys story
I'm not sure, but he has a nice Leisure Suit.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2011, 09:39:51 PM
whats larrys story
Still trying to nail chicks at the Regal Beagle.
:-D at the last two posts