please update if you can listen. Count how many times he says it is his job to fix things. :yay
Donovan - brusied chest
Dawkins - sprained ankle
Lemme know if he says anything about subbing Calvin for Hicks. He couldn't be worse.
he said defense was ok enough to win, special teams did well.
said offense needs to be better
dawk sprained ankle slight
mcpouty bruised chest
too much pressure on donovan...too many penalties...
defense did enough to win
special teams coverage nice job on rossum
blaming himself for offensive struggles
doesnt know if mcpoutys chest caused him not to run...he had mri and cat scan after game...both negative
team didnt pick up the blitz effectively...blames himself for not calling proper routes to counteract the blitz
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 12:07:56 PM
blaming himself for offensive struggles
doesnt know if mcpoutys chest caused him not to run...he had mri and cat scan after game...both negative
team didnt pick up the blitz effectively...blames himself for not calling proper routes to counteract the blitz
you're starting to upset me
it doesn't sound as if McNabb is a lock to play Sunday, they have to see how he feels as the week goes on
a couple years ago Steve McNair took a straight on shot to the sternum with a helmet and it took FOREVER to come back from it. Lets hope it's not that serious.
called that timeout because he didnt like what he saw in the atl's secondary
wont comment on TO/mcnabb/teams relationship
atlanta blitzed more last night than patriots did in superbowl
akers will work thru 'this'...not worried about him
wont answer whod start if mcnabb cant go
the end
thanks for the updates.
a couple years ago Steve McNair took a straight on shot to the sternum with a helmet and it took FOREVER to come back from it
mcnair actually came back in a couple weeks if i remember correctly...but ended up rehurting it several times...he eventually had surgery
i think mcnabb will definitely play...but you have to be concerned about reinjury...sf coming off a seven sack game too...though that has mroe to do with st louis awful line
McNabb played through a broken ankle. He would have to be pretty beat the farg up to not play in a game.
Quote from: MURP on September 13, 2005, 12:16:47 PM
McNabb played through a broken ankle. He would have to be pretty beat the farg up to not play in a game.
And it cost him the remainder of the 02 seson. Ive always been mad at the training staff for that. :boo
Quote from: Die-Hard on September 13, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: MURP on September 13, 2005, 12:16:47 PM
McNabb played through a broken ankle. He would have to be pretty beat the farg up to not play in a game.
And it cost him the remainder of the 02 seson. Ive always been mad at the training staff for that. :boo
you think that if he came out of that game right away he would've come back earlier?
He did himself no healthwise service by staying in that game, but he wasn't coming back any sooner.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 12:16:05 PM
a couple years ago Steve McNair took a straight on shot to the sternum with a helmet and it took FOREVER to come back from it
mcnair actually came back in a couple weeks if i remember correctly...but ended up rehurting it several times...he eventually had surgery
i think mcnabb will definitely play...but you have to be concerned about reinjury...sf coming off a seven sack game too...though that has mroe to do with st louis awful line
Yes, but also McNair had a deformation in his sternum that caused the injury to be worse. That's why they had to take bone from another part of his body and make an armor plate in his chest.
And SF's sacks had everything to do with STL's piss poor OL. They played Tucker at RT and he was beaten like a hooker by her pimp.
And another thing...
Remember when we lost that SF game in 2003?
Jim Mora was the DC then. He blitzed a lot and they won. In the NFCCG they did not blitz a lot and they paid dearly for it. His pressure packages were good last night.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:48:44 PM
And another thing...
Remember when we lost that SF game in 2003?
Jim Mora was the DC then. He blitzed a lot and they won. In the NFCCG they did not blitz a lot and they paid dearly for it. His pressure packages were good last night.
that's what was frustrating, they were coming with big-time pressure, but i didn't think they ran enough screens, or quick traps. i also would've liked to seen a couple plays where they max protect with 2 backs and a TE, send TO down the field and see what happens. the one time they went deep was the pick he threw when he got demolished
They'd better get Spach learning the fullback spot real soon, this singleback shtein ain't working.
I agree, Mo.
I think AR knows it too.
And like Larry said last night...usually losses like this open Reid's eyes to the fact that he needs to run it more and get back to plays that eliminate pressure.
ATL's DL & LB did not have to respect the run. They pinned their ears back and went after Donny Mac full on.
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
3 games? i don't think so. The Eagles won on Monday night game after Donovan got hurt in 2002
I've always said that the way to beat the Eagles is to blitz the hell out of them. It always seems to work.
As for reinjury to Mcnabb, Mcnair cracked his sternum I believe. Mcnabb's is a bruise. Big difference.
Dexter let that ball go too which took a huge Atlanta bounce. The next one he ran up like maniac to catch it and then fumbled it trying to make up for the previous punt. Harbaugh has gotta get on him about that or else Reno is gonna be back there. :paranoid
Dexter wasn't that bad. Reno would have been worse.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
3 games? i don't think so. The Eagles won on Monday night game after Donovan got hurt in 2002
We lost that game, but AJ won the rest of them.
i agree...wynn was ok
if the ankle had been 100% and he held his normal explosiveness he would have broke that first return...he just couldnt blast thru the hole
Wynn was alright. the punt he muffed a bit, but fell on is not something i really take issue with. the way i saw it, the offense was eating their own shtein, so wynn wanted to get that on the run and make a play.
it would have had a great return had it not slipped. wynn gambled on the play in not letting it bounce. and he wound up pushing with the dealer.
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
3 games? i don't think so. The Eagles won on Monday night game after Donovan got hurt in 2002
We lost that game, but AJ won the rest of them.
Were you smoking crack that night? The Eagles ROMPED the Niners in that game. Koy had the game of his life before his elbow got smashy smashed.
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:36:07 PM
As for reinjury to Mcnabb, Mcnair cracked his sternum I believe. Mcnabb's is a bruise. Big difference.
really? a bruised sternum is a lot different than a cracked sternum?
sweet. thanks for the info, Doc.
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
3 games? i don't think so. The Eagles won on Monday night game after Donovan got hurt in 2002
We lost that game, but AJ won the rest of them.
38-17 Eagles won
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
3 games? i don't think so. The Eagles won on Monday night game after Donovan got hurt in 2002
We lost that game, but AJ won the rest of them.
What are you TALKING about? We kicked the shtein out of the Niners that night.
You're very welcome Mad-Lad. ;D
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2005, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: methdeez on September 13, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Two things:
1. Dexter Wynn was awful last night. 1 drop, two (?) he barely caught.
2. As pointed out to me by a 300 lb. Niners fan, they have a 3 game winning streak over us.
3 games? i don't think so. The Eagles won on Monday night game after Donovan got hurt in 2002
Were you smoking crack that night? The Eagles ROMPED the Niners in that game. Koy had the game of his life before his elbow got smashy smashed.
Oh right.....
And in answer to your question, yes. Yes, I was.
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
You suck at quoting. Like, a lot.
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
I think I recall a missed FG that game, but can't quite remember. I do remember Brandon Lloyd catching a crazy TD on Lito. That was a lucky TD if I ever saw one.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
I thought that was the game where his kick actually hit the camera wires on its way through the air...
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
yeah, and there was a controversy to whether or not the ball hit one of those fox sky cam wires
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2005, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
I thought that was the game where his kick actually hit the camera wires on its way through the air...
ahh, right. it looked (to us at the game anyway) that it hit wind. I remember it being really windy. Towards the end of the season, right?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
i dont know if the FG was to tie or not, but that kick just stopped in middair like Wile E Coyote, and held up a sign that said, "whoops"
pinkston caught a long pass down to the 4 or 5, to set up the tying score. (westy also had a PR in that game for a TD).
the INT in OT was a pass to mitchell, and mitchell turned the wrong way.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 13, 2005, 03:47:47 PM
i dont know if the FG was to tie or not, but that kick just stopped in middair like Wile E Coyote, and held up a sign that said, "whoops"
pinkston caught a long pass down to the 4 or 5, to set up the tying score. (westy also had a PR in that game for a TD).
the INT in OT was a pass to mitchell, and mitchell turned the wrong way.
LMFAO...*valley girl voice* TOTALLY!
And gee, what a shock on that last comment.
Let's "Ask Freddie" about that one! :crazy
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2005, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: Avenger on September 13, 2005, 03:43:41 PM
Yea, we won the game in 2002, and killed the Niners. The one we lost was in 2003 that went into OT. Pinkston caught a late TD, and Mcnabb threw a pick in OT on the first series to Parrish. We could NOT stop Barlow that game. It was pathetic.
Didn't Akers miss a FG to tie it? I remember it being CRAZY windy at that game and Akers' kick just hit a wall of wind and died.
I thought that was the game where his kick actually hit the camera wires on its way through the air...
ahh, right. it looked (to us at the game anyway) that it hit wind. I remember it being really windy. Towards the end of the season, right?
yeah, i think it was the last regular season home game
Everyone's good a quoting today.
if akers missed one it wasnt late...cant recall what he did the rest of the game
what i remember from that game was the wind...very windy...TO breaking his shoulder and the westbrook punt return
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2005, 03:52:20 PM
Yes, you're right. We are excellent at quoting.
Everyone's
Quotegood at
ing today.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 03:52:27 PM
if akers missed one it wasnt late...cant recall what he did the rest of the game
what i remember from that game was the wind...very windy...TO breaking his shoulder and the westbrook punt return
He broke his collar bone.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 03:52:27 PM
if akers missed one it wasnt late...cant recall what he did the rest of the game
what i remember from that game was the wind...very windy...TO breaking his shoulder and the westbrook punt return
They were both in the second half. He missed 2 that night.
Garcia usually has good games against the Eagles. Minus 2002 @ San Fran on monday night. He did in 03 with the Niners, he did in 04 with the Browns, he did in 01 with the Niners.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 13, 2005, 03:54:41 PM
He broke his collar bone.
shoulder = collar bone = clavicle
Shoulder = joint
Joint =|= bone
Joints get dislocated, bones get broken. He broke the bone, not the joint.
Semantics, I know...
Pinky fumbled a TD out of the EZ too, the bitch.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 04:24:39 PM
Pinky fumbled a TD out of the EZ too, the bitch.
Yeah that was a killer. I still hate that rule. It should be the offenses ball at the 20. They get to keep the ball if it's fumbled out of bounds, why does the D get it when it's fumbled out of the endzone? It makes no sense.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 13, 2005, 04:27:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 04:24:39 PM
Pinky fumbled a TD out of the EZ too, the bitch.
Yeah that was a killer. I still hate that rule. It should be the offenses ball at the 20. They get to keep the ball if it's fumbled out of bounds, why does the D get it when it's fumbled out of the endzone? It makes no sense.
yeah, but why should the offense get it back?
i suggest that they go to the way the XFL started games when that situation happens
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 04:28:50 PM
yeah, but why should the offense get it back?
Don't ask me, I didn't write the rules. I just know that in one instance the O keeps the ball in another they give it to the D. The only difference is the part of the field where the OOB stripe is. It should be a uniform rule. Either the O keeps it or the D gets it. The way it is now doesn't make any sense.
Quote from: MURP on September 13, 2005, 03:36:20 PM
Dexter let that ball go too which took a huge Atlanta bounce. The next one he ran up like maniac to catch it and then fumbled it trying to make up for the previous punt. Harbaugh has gotta get on him about that or else Reno is gonna be back there. :paranoid
Mahe is absolute shtein did anybody else notice on kickoffs he missed every block.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 13, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: MURP on September 13, 2005, 03:36:20 PM
Dexter let that ball go too which took a huge Atlanta bounce. The next one he ran up like maniac to catch it and then fumbled it trying to make up for the previous punt. Harbaugh has gotta get on him about that or else Reno is gonna be back there. :paranoid
Mahe is absolute shtein did anybody else notice on kickoffs he missed every block.
Yes.
It was hard to miss. When your returner only averages 16 yards over 3 kicks, typically something is failing on a very basic level. That something was Mahe. Cut him.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2005, 04:45:41 PM
It was hard to miss. When your returner only averages 16 yards over 3 kicks, typically something is failing on a very basic level. That something was Mahe. Cut him.
agreed
mahe is swoop's only backup so he'll never be cut.
Cut Mahe. Bring back Ritchie. Actually run the ball occasionally.
I still hate that rule. It should be the offenses ball at the 20. They get to keep the ball if it's fumbled out of bounds, why does the D get it when it's fumbled out of the endzone? It makes no sense.
its to discourage the offensive team from purposely fumbling the ball into the end zone to score a touchdown
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 13, 2005, 04:47:44 PM
Cut Mahe. Bring back Ritchie. Actually run the ball occasionally.
That is a fantastic idea.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 13, 2005, 04:47:44 PM
Cut Mahe. Bring back Ritchie. Actually run the ball occasionally.
Juts think, we could cut both Mahe and Parry, bring back Ritchie and have a team that is capable of winning when Donovan decides to have a 90 minute brainfart like he did last night.
Reid shouldn't even bother carrying RBs other than Westbrook.
Use the roster spots on extra OL, extra TE and 2 FBs. Just line one of them up in the backfield with Westbrook or split Westy out wide and have 2 OLs in the b/f to blitz protect.
Dawkins broke TO's collarbone, with the signature tackle and punch combo on the left sideline. :evil :evil
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 04:50:38 PM
its to discourage the offensive team from purposely fumbling the ball into the end zone to score a touchdown
Yeah, but that's a crap shoot either way. There's no gaurantee that the offense would even get the ball since it can go anywhere once it hits the ground. But anyway, it's when the ball is fumbled out of the endzone. If the ball goes into the endzone and goes out of bounds with no established possession, kick the ball back 20 yards, count the down and let the offense retain possession (as long as a fumble out of bounds everywhere else results in retained possession for the offense).
Last year when Freddie fumbled on that one play against the Vikings and the ball hit the pylon possession went to the D even though they really had no effect on the play. Freddie just lost his grip trying to score. But because the ball touched the pylon, change of possession. I think they should have assessed the down and moved the ball back 20 yards.
If a team can move the ball down to the goalline to score, they shouldn't lose the ball because it goes in and out of the endzone if they don't lose it if it goes out of bounds at the 1 yard line. That way a team gets penalized for fumbling but they don't get penalized even after driving the field and getting in position to score.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 13, 2005, 05:03:55 PM
If a team can move the ball down to the goalline to score, they shouldn't lose the ball because it goes in and out of the endzone if they don't lose it if it goes out of bounds at the 1 yard line. That way a team gets penalized for fumbling but they don't get penalized even after driving the field and getting in position to score.
I hope there is Unicorns and rainbows in fair-land.
Why don't you tell us when you get home since you apparently have nothing to add to the conversation.
No fumble no problems. I beleive turnovers are supposed to reward the defense and punish the offense. There are plenty of stickler rules that annoy people, but that's the game. Your rule change would have allowed the Cowpukes to get the ball back after Beebe hustled on your Texas boy Leon Lett. :puke
Oh and remove our beloved team logo from that redneck desert one lattitude north of hell you call home.
Yeah, but the thing is that turnovers don't all around reward the D which is the point. A fumble out of bounds goes right back to the offense where it was fumbled. A fumble into and out of the endzone goes to the Defense. One rewards the defense, one doesn't.
Quote from: JailBird-man on September 13, 2005, 05:19:57 PM
Oh and remove our beloved team logo from that redneck desert one lattitude north of hell you call home.
Wow, you're a moron. I'm sure the EMB is missing you right now.
Stop being a racist, TE.
Quote from: JailBird-man on September 13, 2005, 05:02:26 PM
Dawkins broke TO's collarbone, with the signature tackle and punch combo on the left sideline. :evil :evil
Not Dawk, Mike Lewis. ;)
Quote from: General_Failure on September 13, 2005, 06:06:17 PM
Stop being a racist, TE.
I'm fighting the power. You can't keep me down!
FIGHT THE MAN! FIGHT THE MAN!
I am the man. Stop fighting me or I'll ban you because I can. So there. [insert racial remark here]
Quote from: General_Failure on September 13, 2005, 06:22:22 PM
I am the man. Stop fighting me or I'll ban you because I can. So there.
Will not...
:paranoid
Fine. I'm gonna go cry and eat cookie dough ice cream now.
Can I have some?
No!
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 13, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: MURP on September 13, 2005, 03:36:20 PM
Dexter let that ball go too which took a huge Atlanta bounce. The next one he ran up like maniac to catch it and then fumbled it trying to make up for the previous punt. Harbaugh has gotta get on him about that or else Reno is gonna be back there. :paranoid
Mahe is absolute shtein did anybody else notice on kickoffs he missed every block.
omg yes. It was like that piece on NFL quaterbacks throwing blocks on reverses. It's like, the qb goes out there...looks like he's going to block...and then somehow misses the block at the last second. Mahe did that and then swung his arms and clapped like, "Damn!". Sure Mahe.
good game last night. i almost threw a pony bottle through the tv screen at the bar.