As we all know, Mark Eckel has an irrational hatred for this team. He makes no bones about it but tries to deny that he has a hidden agenda while on the airwaves on WIP.
I present you two different accounts of last night's game:
QuoteThat was not a good sign for a team that believes it has depth on its defensive line.
If depth means a lot of players, the Eagles have it. If it means good players, that was in doubt last night.
Backup tackles Sam Rayburn and Paul Grasmanis were consistently blown off the ball by an average Jets offensive line. The backup linebackers and backup secondary players didn't establish themselves much, either
Let's see...Eckel has been ripping the Birds for letting Simon go all week. He even openly wished on air that Simon went to Baltimore for the same amount of money offered in April so the Eagles got screwed on draft picks.
So he makes a point to say that the DL was terrible and that Sam Rayburn played bad. But Rayburn is returning to the field for the first time in a month.
And now Marc Narduci from the Inquirer:
QuoteEven though Rayburn's evening was limited to a little more than a quarter, he passed the test - even if it came against watered-down competition.
Rayburn wore a bulky brace on the elbow, but it didn't appear to hinder him. A few times, he was double-teamed and still was able to make big plays. On one, late in the first quarter, he threw Jets fullback B.J. Askew for a 3-yard loss
So Eckel The Naysayer says that Rayburn was blown off the LOS while Narducci paints an totally different picture. Were these guys watching the same game? Obviously someone has an agenda here and it's Ms. Kevin Johnson. I wouldn't even bring this up if they'd been close on the accounts - but they are night and day different!
The DL as a whole did not play well. The entire team stunk last night. I'm not saying they played good, but jeez.
Simon missed everything football related since February. I suppose he would've came in and played perfectly, right Mark?
Rayburn has a hyperextended elbow, makes some plays and gets ripped. I don't get it.
Mark Eckel wants him some of that Simon ghetto booty.
Yes, he does. Heap on top of that, that he hates Reid for the incident a few years back, and you've got yourself one "writer" with an agenda.
what was the original thing that led to AR destroying Eckel in front of everybody?
i can't even stomach listening to eckel when he's on wip let alone read something he writes.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 02, 2005, 08:42:23 AM
what was the original thing that led to AR destroying Eckel in front of everybody?
Probably something so small that only Eckel would make a big deal about it. All I know (and I know personally from the times I've had dinner with Eckel and Roob) is that he really hates Andy.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 02, 2005, 08:42:23 AM
what was the original thing that led to AR destroying Eckel in front of everybody?
I think his cellphone went off one time and Andy said "turn that thing off" and ever since Eckel has had a chub for blasting Andy.
I think Andy made Eckel push blocking sleds on live television to show him up.
i thought Eckel had written something early in AR's 1st year and AR made an example out of him, almost the same way he did with Hegamins
Could be right, Sun. I was in Texas then so I didn't catch much news then. But I know his cell went off one time (think it was Eckel) and AR yelled at the person.
Eckel, president of the F.A.G.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2005, 09:28:25 AM
Could be right, Sun. I was in Texas then so I didn't catch much news then. But I know his cell went off one time (think it was Eckel) and AR yelled at the person.
i think that was Spads after they got blown out by the Colts
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 02, 2005, 09:25:23 AM
i thought Eckel had written something early in AR's 1st year and AR made an example out of him, almost the same way he did with Hegamins
Missanelli has a boner for Reid because he did that to Hegamins & brought that up the other day on his show. I forget what Hegamins did that caused it..anyone?
He also went on a jag about Reid being a controlling & arrogant prick. My question is, why the frig should I care if Reid is a fleshpop to certain members of the media? How does that affect me as a fan?
Guys like him & Eckel just come off like spurned girlfriends when they go off on those rants.
From NJ.com:
QuoteBack in 1999, the offensive lineman lost his starting job in a morning practice and went home to New Jersey while skipping an afternoon session to show his displeasure.
Hegamin was forced to show his contrition by pushing a blocking sled 100 yards in humiliating fashion following a morning practice. He kept falling down in the summer heat, as Reid stood over him yelling, "Get up, George, get up."
Then Hegamin was cut from the squad a few days later.
:-D STill funny 6 years later
Reid also cut Bill Johnson (DT) after he was laughing and goofing off on a flight home in 1999.
Hugh Douglas did an interview awhile back and talked about Johnson and Hegamin and said that Andy had to do that to earn respect.
F Mike Miss and his whining ways.
NFL coaches, every last one of them, are egomaniacs.
I've asked this before so forgive me for bringing this up again but why do any of you lend any credence to anything that worthless hack has to say?
I can't believe he makes any difference in your lives one way or another so just ignore his bullshtein already.
Sheesh.
:-D
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 02, 2005, 09:55:26 AM
He also went on a jag about Reid being a controlling & arrogant prick.
Find me a coach that ISN'T a controlling and arrogant prick....if you find one, I can bet you good money that he is either a) not an NFL head coach or b) is a shtein NFL coach.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2005, 10:01:20 AM
Hugh Douglas did an interview awhile back and talked about Johnson and Hegamin and said that Andy had to do that to earn respect.
I love that shtein. Perfect way to set the tone as a new coach.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 02, 2005, 10:07:03 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2005, 10:01:20 AM
Hugh Douglas did an interview awhile back and talked about Johnson and Hegamin and said that Andy had to do that to earn respect.
I love that shtein. Perfect way to set the tone as a new coach.
Yep. Hugh even said that players were more skeptical than normal because Reid had never been a coordinator.
But those two things, among others, Hugh said set them straight and set the winning tone.
Hadn't ever been a coordinator. Hadn't ever been a head coach on any level. Remarkable.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 02, 2005, 10:04:14 AM
I've asked this before so forgive me for bringing this up again but why do any of you lend any credence to anything that worthless hack has to say?
I can't believe he makes any difference in your lives one way or another so just ignore his bullshtein already.
Sheesh.
:-D
I just cannot stand Eckel's personal vendettas coming out with his articles. If he was a columnist? Maybe. But report the facts of the game. Keep the agendas out of it. I saw Rayburn make plays and then read Eckel saying how he sucked. He's a clown. Someone needs to call him on it.
A caller tried to call him out on WIP the other day when he said "I hope he goes to BAL and signs that big deal so the Eagles get nothing" and he backtracked like crazy.
Not comparing their accomplishments just yet, but I bet Lombardi was a controlling prick, as well...I know Parcells is, and he's also far less respectful to the media than Reid has ever been.
The guy doing the game with Jaws last night mentioned that if Reid were to go 12-4 this season and Gibbs 6-10, Reid would move ahead of Gibbs as far as all-time winning percentage is concerned. Of course I'd rather have the three SB wins, but, in due time.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 02, 2005, 10:04:14 AM
I've asked this before so forgive me for bringing this up again but why do any of you lend any credence to anything that worthless hack has to say?
I can't believe he makes any difference in your lives one way or another so just ignore his bullshtein already.
Sheesh.
:-D
Actually nothing that is discussed on this board makes any difference in our real lives, yet we have a 12-page post on "Eagles Sponsorships". :-D
It's just fun to overanalyze & gripe.
Eckel was tasting Andy's tube snake one day and used too much teeth so Andy bitch slapped him. Excel has held a grudge ever since...
:nyuk
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on September 02, 2005, 10:23:25 AM
Not comparing their accomplishments just yet, but I bet Lombardi was a controlling prick, as well...I know Parcells is, and he's also far less respectful to the media than Reid has ever been.
The guy doing the game with Jaws last night mentioned that if when Reid goes 12-4 this season and Gibbs 6-10, Reid will move ahead of Gibbs as far as all-time winning percentage is concerned. Of course I'd rather have the three SB wins, but, in due time.
Corrected
Eckel is trying to stick up for the players because he wants to be boys. They don't even know who he is.