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49ers | Rattay Named Regular-Season Starter
Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:09:16 -0700
KFFL has learned the San Francisco 49ers have confirmed QB Tim Rattay has been named the regular-season starter at quarterback.
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Alex Smith must have really been bad because Nolan had said from the start that he was going to start.
Alex Smith is going to be a bust in this league.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 23, 2005, 04:39:05 PM
Alex Smith is going to be a bust in this league.
the Niners gave him a dump load of bonus money upfront...
i was looking forward to JJ's defense ravaging the little guy in week 2
Quote from: Sun_Mo on August 23, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
i was looking forward to JJ's defense ravaging the little guy in week 2
They'll still get a chance. I predict a body bag for Rattay in the 1st quarter.
McNabb didnt start for the Eagles right off the bat either.
The 49ers have to get their Oline and offense together before Smith is given the reigns.
Quote from: MURP on August 23, 2005, 04:50:18 PM
McNabb didnt start for the Eagles right off the bat either.
The 49ers have to get their Oline and offense together before Smith is given the reigns.
yeah, but this is different because right after the draft Nolan had said that he was the starter and it was known that Smith went into camp being #1 on the depth chart. so for him to now be #2 can only mean he is having more troubles than they anticipated he would have
How could he say who the starter is before he's even seen the farger play?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 23, 2005, 04:56:54 PM
How could he say who the starter is before he's even seen the farger play?
it was done with Tim Couch, David Carr, etc...
the decision is usually made before camp even starts. it's a philosophy thing, you either think it's better to start the rook right away or you think it's better for him sit and watch
so Nolan changed his philosophy after he came to his senses and realized it wasnt smart to start Smith right off the bat. big whoop.
Quote from: MURP on August 23, 2005, 05:07:35 PM
so Nolan changed his philosophy after he came to his senses and realized it wasnt smart to start Smith right off the bat. big whoop.
ok, you don't think this is news. why click the link?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on August 23, 2005, 05:08:40 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 23, 2005, 05:07:35 PM
so Nolan changed his philosophy after he came to his senses and realized it wasnt smart to start Smith right off the bat. big whoop.
ok, you don't think this is news. why click the link?
because I help mod the site and read everything.
got any other smartass remarks you want to make?
I do! I do!
Quote from: MURP on August 23, 2005, 05:14:26 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on August 23, 2005, 05:08:40 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 23, 2005, 05:07:35 PM
so Nolan changed his philosophy after he came to his senses and realized it wasnt smart to start Smith right off the bat. big whoop.
ok, you don't think this is news. why click the link?
because I help mod the site and read everything.
got any other smartass remarks you want to make?
if I do, I'll let you know
While I think Alex Smith is going to be a bust, I don't think this move is indicitive of his bustiness.
Also, let's not forget that Nolan is a rookie head coach and he's bound to change his mind from time to time while getting adjusted to the pros.
Bottom line is that the Niners offensive line isn't exactly stellar, not to mention they tragically lost some depth with the death of Herrion. I don't care if it's Peyton Manning, I'm not running a (highly paid, future of the franchise, #1 overall pick) rookie QB out on the field behind a questionable offensive line so he can get killed. Dom Capers is lucky David Carr didn't lose a limb his rookie year when he got sacked every other down.
Bust or not way too early to tell for a first year QB. I do think that, for what it counts, that a first year QB needs time. He has to understand the speed of the game. Letting him sit for a while and learn is not a bad thing. He probably played no more than what 12 games at any time during he college career.
All that said does the "value" of Phillip Rivers - what ever his future holds - increase due to his time on the bench in San Diego. Or does it decrease? IMO he's now kind of like an unknown commodity.
Oh for fargsake, who cares? Smith or Rattay? Rookie suck or back-up suck?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 23, 2005, 10:01:07 PM
Oh for fargsake, who cares? Smith or Rattay? Rookie suck or back-up suck?
Exactly. All are equally treated as lunchmeat in Jim Johnson's Extra Value Blitz.
If the Niners were smart they would've drafted Edwards and took Leinart next season, because they are definitely finishing last. They are still terrible.
Adam Shefter made a good point though. He said the Niners' offensive line is so bad, Alex Smith will be on crutches by week 5. Better to let him ride the bench for half a season so Rattay can suffer that fate instead.
Quote from: Monster on August 25, 2005, 06:52:54 PM
If the Niners were smart they would've drafted Edwards and took Leinart next season, because they are definitely finishing last. They are still terrible.
Holy shtein. Monster said something I agree with!
I agree too. Alex Smith was one of the least qualified to be the #1 pick in recent memory. He's going to suck anyway, and I felt Rattay was given garbage to work with and didn't do half bad. Give him a receiver (Edwards), and you might get something going. Instead, they add Smith, who will probably end up like Rivers in San Diego... riding the pine.
Exactly. Rattay is a decent QB who needed weapons. Instead they have an inexperienced, underqualified, over-paid QB who will wreck their cap and give them poor production. Stupid.
Either that or they should've traded down and gotten multiple picks. I don't think you should draft a QB #1 unless he is extremely special in college anymore. There hasn't been a Culpepper or a McNabb or a Manning lately. The last few drafts, I think the QBs taken high were reaches. Hell, the Niners could've probably been able to turn that #1 pick into Mike Williams and a defensive player. They could've made a deal with the Skins who wanted a QB badly. I personally think they should've waited to see what Rattay can do when healthy and with weapons.
The same thing happened with the Lions. I thought Harrington was a dumb pick #2 overall and he f'n blows. They should've stuck with Mcmahon and drafted defense high. They might be a playoff team if they drafted smart.
It doesn't really matter to me, though. The Niners will suck and that is one less NFC team to worry about. Though it would be nice to not walk in every week and expect a total blowout like last year. I like games that make you sweat a bit.