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phattymatty

Quote from: General_Failure on August 21, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
The bald guy doing the Cowboys/Saints game just said he believes TO has learned his lesson, whatever that may be, because football was taken away from him and he really loves the game. Uh, hasn't TO said multiple times over the years that in fact does not love football?

no, that was actually theisman saying that.  kornheiser was basicaly insinuating he was crazy.

General_Failure

I'm no good at voice recognition.

The man. The myth. The legend.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: phattymatty on August 21, 2006, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 21, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
The bald guy doing the Cowboys/Saints game just said he believes TO has learned his lesson, whatever that may be, because football was taken away from him and he really loves the game. Uh, hasn't TO said multiple times over the years that in fact does not love football?

no, that was actually theisman saying that.  kornheiser was basicaly insinuating he was crazy.

Theisman is a douche of elephantine proportions. I am hoping at some point Tony coaxes some kind of outburst from The Leg which ends his career as a broadcaster. I love how Tony has been bashing him all night over Joe's unquenchable man-love for Bledsoe. Ass.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

mooby

I would love for Romo to be named the starting qb by week 2, it'd make the skins game a whole lot easier for us.

ice grillin you

Joe's unquenchable man-love for Bledsoe

for real what was that all about last night...it was nauseating
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 22, 2006, 08:28:39 AM
Joe's unquenchable man-love for Bledsoe

for real what was that all about last night...it was nauseating

Don't worry, I'm sure he was thinking about Mike Vick the whole time. 

Feva

"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

ice grillin you

thats only to make the injury look more real so that the media gets off TO as far talking about how he may be milking it so not to have to practice
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Feva

If that's the case, futile attempts by Jerrah... as we all know.  If he ain't practicing... the spotlight is on.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

Rome

QuoteUpdated: Aug. 23, 2006, 2:57 PM ET
T.O. says MRI negative, but he's still hurting
Associated Press

IRVING, Texas -- Terrell Owens said he reaggravated his left hamstring injury when he returned to practice last week for the Dallas Cowboys and almost certainly will miss his third straight preseason game.

"It's frustrating, but it's not where I need it to be to play and perform like I need to," Owens said Wednesday. "So at this point, I'm going to be smart about it."

Asked if he could play if this was the regular season, Owens said, "I doubt it, not the way I need to play."

After missing 14 consecutive training camp practices and the preseason opener in Seattle because of the hamstring problem that has bothered him all month, Owens returned for five practices last week. He missed the final full workout in Oxnard, Calif., last weekend and didn't play Monday night against New Orleans in Shreveport, La., after the hamstring tightened up on him.

Owens was back on the field last Wednesday after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones suggested that the receiver needed to learn how to practice at less than 100 percent. His first practice back came only hours after coach Bill Parcells reiterated that Owens needed to be on the field.

"I felt like I was never pressured to get back on the field. I just tried to compromise with some people, just try to be around the team and get back out there," Owens said. "It just flared up again."

Owens first felt a twinge in his hamstring Aug. 2, but an MRI taken three days later was clear. Owens said another MRI taken this week was also negative, with only a little fluid in the hamstring.

"Just because the MRI doesn't show anything, that doesn't mean that I'm not hurting," Owens said.

The Cowboys play their first home preseason game Saturday night against San Francisco, Owens' original team. They play their final preseason game five nights later.

It's possible that Owens might not play in a game for Dallas until the Sept. 10 season opener at Jacksonville. He hasn't played in a game with quarterback Drew Bledsoe, and the Dallas offense is different from the West Coast scheme Owens played in for the 49ers and Philadelphia.

"He is pretty much up on what to do," Parcells said. "He has been very attentive in meetings and trying to learn. There are some adjustments for him to make. Where he is and actually doing it is hard to tell."

:-D

Classic.   :yay

Cerevant

You know - I was rooting for the tear, but I hadn't realized how much better this would be.  The press is milking this beautifully and setting the stage for a confrontation.  I'm just waiting for Parcells to turn on Jones, because he never wanted "the player" on his team in the first place.   :-D
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

bobbyinlondon

Let's rethink T.O.'s importanceBy Jennifer, Floyd Engel.
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

IRVING - Saying who is and who is not legitimately injured is dangerous business.

One player's sore hammy is another's sorry excuse to skip practice and further gig his old-school coach and send a not-so-subtle reminder of who is actually in control.

What we do not know for sure is which is the case with Mr. Initials?

Oh, I can venture a guess at his motivation. Philly followers can, too, and probably already have after T.O. missed his third straight Cowboys preseason game Saturday.

He did not miss anything too earth-shattering. The Cowboys' defense is still very good. Their offense is not bad, not bad at all. Their big-time kicker remains a no-show. And preseason is still a gigantic waste of time, energy and ticket-buyers' money.

Nothing means anything until the games count in the standings.

This, of course, is the T.O./Deion Sanders joint argument. They believe and have so eloquently stated that preseason and practice are unnecessary evils for the imminently talented.

Go watch the film, Big Bill, was their consensus opinion. Or to use T.O.'s exact phraseology from Wednesday: "If he wants to see something, he has 10 years of film."

Of course, Parcells has plenty of film, a personal relationship and real-life experience from drafting and coaching Terry Glenn. And of Glenn, everybody deemed Saturday's festivities at Texas Stadium worthy of his time and effort.

Glenn played like what he is - a professional.

He had another spectacular diving catch in the end zone for a touchdown. And when he called it a night midway through the second quarter, he had just added a 52-yard catch to his duty roster.

Who again misses who was missing?

Seems to me that Jamaica Rector and Sam Hurd have been filling in nicely. And Glenn looks good to go as a No. 1 receiver.

I can already hear the Mr. Initials apologists, including a certain Cowboys owner: "But Glenn is not injured like T.O." Or, "This is just the preseason."

Garbage games, right?

Then why does this franchise seem prepared to tab Tony Romo as the next Troy Aikman based on what happens in them? And why are vets such as Drew Bledsoe and Larry Allen and Glenn playing?

The easy answer is, unlike T.O., they are not injured.

Real or exaggerated, and who really knows, his hammy has earned him a get-out-of-the-preseason-free card. It also has given the Cowboys a chance to see if they can be all right without him.

So far, so good.

Possibly better, if you throw in the headache factor.

T.O.'s "better teammate" and "better man" pledge did not survive Parcells getting a little cranky about his sore hammy, so I am doubtful about it surviving a two-catch game in Philly. Or when Glenn goes for 125 yards and two touchdowns. Or when Bledsoe misses him wide open in the end zone.

Maybe, he will not implode. Maybe, he really is injured.

My vote is the Cowboys would be better off not waiting around to find out.

But if anybody in this organization, and especially Big Bill, has an inkling that T.O. is not seriously hurt, they would be wise to cut his butt now.

Doing so now costs them only his $5 million signing bonus. And saves them a lot of headaches.

If JJ were to veto this - and he would - at least, suggest to T.O. that such actions are under consideration. I have a feeling that will solve the mystery of just how legit his injury really is.

bobbyinlondon

And for good measure:



Owens fined for missing team meetings

02:17 AM CDT on Sunday, August 27, 2006

By JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR / The Dallas Morning News


IRVING – Cracks are starting to become more evident in the relationship between Terrell Owens and the Cowboys.

Now, the Cowboys have to ensure those cracks don't create a fissure that can't be repaired.

Terrell Owens, who has missed 19 of 31 practices since the start of training camp with a strained left hamstring, missed a team meeting and a rehabilitation session and was late to an offensive meeting Friday.

"That's our club business. That's going to be accounted for," owner Jerry Jones said at halftime of Saturday's 17-7 win over San Francisco.

Owens was fined $9,500.

When asked if there was any problem between Owens and the club, Jones said, "We're going to be fine."

Several sources said Owens has been fined for being late to multiple rehabilitation sessions.

Owens could not be reached for comment. He did not attend the game, which is not unusual for injured players in the preseason because coach Bill Parcells doesn't like players who aren't playing to be on the sideline.

The strained hamstring Owens suffered during the first week of training camp could create a conflict between Owens and Parcells. Parcells is a stickler for having players practice.

He believes that because football is a game of repetition, players who don't practice can't thrive because they inevitably make mistakes that cost games. Rare is the player on a Parcells team who plays on Sunday after missing practice Wednesday and Thursday, the two heaviest work days during the regular season.

Twice in the last week, Owens has mentioned that he played well in San Francisco the second half of one season without practicing.

Owens, who returned to practice Aug. 16, managed only five practices before saying he aggravated his hamstring because of too many repetitions in practice. Passing game coordinator and receivers coach Todd Haley is responsible for practice repetitions.

"There's no question our best thing to do is get him well," Jones told Ch. 11 after the game. "I want him out there and would've wanted him to make every practice.

"I understand that, and everyone else does, too. He wants to be out there, too. ... I know this: When he's healthy, he's going to help us win these ballgames."

Since the Cowboys signed him in March to a three-year, $25 million deal, including $10 million in signing bonus and salary this year, Owens has talked about learning from his mistakes and being a better teammate.

Philadelphia suspended and deactivated him for the final nine games of last season before releasing him in March. Less than a week later, he signed with Dallas.

Owens has made an effort to fit in. He met the team's chartered flight when it arrived at Point Mugu for training camp, greeting teammates with hugs and handshakes. He also threw a barbecue for teammates on their first off day of training camp.

Owens' combination of size (6-3, 226 pounds) and speed makes him one of the NFL's most gifted players. His attitude and conflicts with teammates in San Francisco and Philadelphia have made him one of the league's most notorious players.

He can be combustible.

But Jones has said he doesn't think a serious problem will develop between Owens and Parcells – two strong-willed men who like confrontation – because they will manage their relationship carefully.

Time will tell if the cracks can be fixed.


Sounds like Mr. Jones is getting a bit irritable.

bobbyinlondon

Oh, just one more:

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 Cowboys/NFL 
POSTCARDS FROM THE LEDGE                                                                                                  Big egos are backing Big Bill into a corner
By Jim Reeves
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/TONY GUTIERREZ
Cowboys coach Bill Parcells has chosen his words very carefully when talking about Terrell Owens and his injured hamstring.Bill Parcells almost had me feeling sorry for him last week. Almost.

You could virtually hear the plaintive whine in his voice when he said, "I'm trying not to get pinned down on anything here, because I might have to change my mind."

He was talking about t.o. (no capitals for this joker), of course. Who else?

This is what t.o. and Jerry Jones' obsession have wrought. A proud and future Hall of Fame NFL coach carefully watching every step he takes around the subject of the league's biggest headache.

We all know that Parcells has always had a policy that if players don't practice, they don't play. But t.o. is slowly but surely backing his coach into a no-win situation.

If Owens continues to play footsie with his tender hamstring and doesn't practice again before Jacksonville, yet tells Parcells and Jones he can play in the game, what does Big Bill do?

"I really need to see something on the field before I can play someone," Parcells has said on numerous occasions.

That makes sense, but it's about the only thing about this t.o. situation that does.

Does Parcells roll over and change a lifelong policy for t.o.? Does he allow him to play even though he hasn't practiced? And if he decides "no," does Jones step in and order his coach to play "the player?"

More important, is Parcells' pride more important than what's best for the team? And is playing t.o. what's best for the Cowboys, whether he practices or not?

Those are the questions Parcells is wrestling with, and time is running out. Owens could ease the pressure by getting his butt back on the field, but there's no telling when that may happen.

Still, I can't feel too sorry for Big Bill here, because he had to know what he was getting into when he signed off on Jones' signing of Terrell Owens. He can't plead ignorance on this one. He had to know the aggravation that was headed his way. He asked for this.

Still, watching t.o. gradually win this battle of wills has brought no joy. Just the opposite, in fact.

It's made me sick to my stomach.

PhillyPhreak54

Just wait until TO starts parking in the handicap spaces at Valley Ranch!

What will Jerry do then since he'll have to walk farther?