Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle

[Zanshin]

Honestly, the article was just a waste of time, because it goes without saying. It was almost hyperbolic enough to classify as click-bait. It's a major injury; of course there's risk and anything is possible. Personally, I think he'll come back from it and largely be the same guy, provided they're smart with him. But anything is possible, and it's pretty pointless to speculate about it now because there are too many variables and the guy didn't even have the surgery yet. Plenty of time to wring hands over it, should people want to do so.

[Rome]

differently about what?.....that its possible he might never be the same again

does that freezing cold take really upset you that much?

ive read a lot of "disgusting" things....this is not even on the same planet as disgusting

Seek mental help, IGY. 

[ice grillin you]

Honestly, the article was just a waste of time, because it goes without saying. It was almost hyperbolic enough to classify as click-bait. It's a major injury; of course there's risk and anything is possible. Personally, I think he'll come back from it and largely be the same guy, provided they're smart with him. But anything is possible, and it's pretty pointless to speculate about it now because there are too many variables and the guy didn't even have the surgery yet. Plenty of time to wring hands over it, should people want to do so.

what about articles that say he will come back just as good as before

also disgusting click bait?

[MDS]

my man def. needs help but that has nothing to do with this

its a valid point to bring up. you might not want to hear it because it SUCKS but it's a concern. rg3 was never the same. wentz is better in the pocket than he was but wentz isnt brady or manning. his mobility and athleticism is a big part of what he does and what makes him next level. does that come back? does it come back all the way?

these are questions.

[SD]

Deshaun Watson's career is already over

[ice grillin you]

he is actually worse off as he has now torn both his acl's

[smeags]

1/2 empty vs 1/2 full

[hunt]

do we like this one better?

http://www.phillyvoice.com/experts-opinion-carson-wentzs-likelihood-starting-2018-season-time-and-returning-100-percent/

When Carson Wentz tore his ACL on Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, the Philadelphia Eagles' special 2017 season took as serious a hit as imaginable. Looking ahead, because Wentz's injury occurred as late in the season as it did, many are concerned that he may not be ready to play when the start of the 2018 season rolls around.

We followed up with Mike Collins, P.T., ATC, MBA, Vice President and National Director of Sports Medicine, NovaCare Rehabilitation, to get some insights into when Wentz can realistically return to the field, and whether or not he will be the same player whenever he does.

With Wentz tearing his ACL in early-to-mid-December, there will be a gap of around seven and a half months between his injury and the start of training camp in 2018. It will be a little less than nine months in between the injury and the start of the 2018 regular season.

"I would say (a return in time for training camp) is a possibility," said Collins. "There are a lot of factors involved, and we have loose parameters based on the injury, and then there is how the individual responds. I've treated lots of people who responded more quickly than others. A few years back, there was more of an accelerated rehab type of approach in getting people back very quickly, and there are stories here and there of people who got back in a very short time frame.

"I would tell you that six-to-nine months is not out of the question, so that would put him right in that wheelhouse for training camp. With that said, an isolated ACL is one thing. If there are other injuries involved, it makes for a slightly more difficult rehab."

On Monday, Doug Pederson noted that his understanding was that there were no other associated knee injuries other than the ACL.

"With the report I got this morning, it was just ACL," he said.


With serious ligament injuries, the next question that always arises is whether or not the athlete can return to his previous form, pre-injury. According to Collins, there is a reasonable expectation that Wentz will.

"Absolutely," said Collins. "You can go down the line with many examples, from Adrian Peterson to way back in the day, Brian Westbrook. ACL injury is so prominent in the athletic population, and we have example after example of people who have recovered and performed at the same level.

"And that has to do with the quality of the surgical technique and the quality of the grafts being used. Because, remember, you cannot sew an ACL back together. You need to take tissue from somewhere else and reconstruct it. So again, the techniques, as well as the quality of graft, are significantly better than they were at one time."

And finally, will Wentz now be at greater risk of re-injuring his ACL after he has recovered?

"I would say no," Collins said. "This guy will have absolutely perfect rehab. He will be prepared before he goes back, and there's any number of return-to-play protocols that they'll follow. So I would not say it necessarily puts him at significant risk of re-injury. Statistically, when people look at these, someone who has had an injury – because now you're dealing with a reconstruction vs. what God blessed you with – there's a slightly higher propensity for re-injury. I would say that's across all demographics.

"When we're dealing with an athlete with these levels of resources available to him, I would say he should be in pretty good shape, and the thought of a re-injury really shouldn't even be there."

In other words, while Wentz's injury is devastating for the Eagles' Super Bowl aspirations in 2017, there is plenty of room for optimism in 2018 and beyond.

[smeags]

do we like this one better?

http://www.phillyvoice.com/experts-opinion-carson-wentzs-likelihood-starting-2018-season-time-and-returning-100-percent/

When Carson Wentz tore his ACL on Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, the Philadelphia Eagles' special 2017 season took as serious a hit as imaginable. Looking ahead, because Wentz's injury occurred as late in the season as it did, many are concerned that he may not be ready to play when the start of the 2018 season rolls around.

We followed up with Mike Collins, P.T., ATC, MBA, Vice President and National Director of Sports Medicine, NovaCare Rehabilitation, to get some insights into when Wentz can realistically return to the field, and whether or not he will be the same player whenever he does.

With Wentz tearing his ACL in early-to-mid-December, there will be a gap of around seven and a half months between his injury and the start of training camp in 2018. It will be a little less than nine months in between the injury and the start of the 2018 regular season.

"I would say (a return in time for training camp) is a possibility," said Collins. "There are a lot of factors involved, and we have loose parameters based on the injury, and then there is how the individual responds. I've treated lots of people who responded more quickly than others. A few years back, there was more of an accelerated rehab type of approach in getting people back very quickly, and there are stories here and there of people who got back in a very short time frame.

"I would tell you that six-to-nine months is not out of the question, so that would put him right in that wheelhouse for training camp. With that said, an isolated ACL is one thing. If there are other injuries involved, it makes for a slightly more difficult rehab."

On Monday, Doug Pederson noted that his understanding was that there were no other associated knee injuries other than the ACL.

"With the report I got this morning, it was just ACL," he said.


With serious ligament injuries, the next question that always arises is whether or not the athlete can return to his previous form, pre-injury. According to Collins, there is a reasonable expectation that Wentz will.

"Absolutely," said Collins. "You can go down the line with many examples, from Adrian Peterson to way back in the day, Brian Westbrook. ACL injury is so prominent in the athletic population, and we have example after example of people who have recovered and performed at the same level.

"And that has to do with the quality of the surgical technique and the quality of the grafts being used. Because, remember, you cannot sew an ACL back together. You need to take tissue from somewhere else and reconstruct it. So again, the techniques, as well as the quality of graft, are significantly better than they were at one time."

And finally, will Wentz now be at greater risk of re-injuring his ACL after he has recovered?

"I would say no," Collins said. "This guy will have absolutely perfect rehab. He will be prepared before he goes back, and there's any number of return-to-play protocols that they'll follow. So I would not say it necessarily puts him at significant risk of re-injury. Statistically, when people look at these, someone who has had an injury – because now you're dealing with a reconstruction vs. what God blessed you with – there's a slightly higher propensity for re-injury. I would say that's across all demographics.

"When we're dealing with an athlete with these levels of resources available to him, I would say he should be in pretty good shape, and the thought of a re-injury really shouldn't even be there."

In other words, while Wentz's injury is devastating for the Eagles' Super Bowl aspirations in 2017, there is plenty of room for optimism in 2018 and beyond.

romey's reaction - ahhh now I feel all comfy and warm.

igy's  - farg that armageddon is here !!

[Rome]

Everyone knows the severity of the injury.  The tone of it was gross.   I'm not saying Ford was giddy over it, and for all I know he was instructed to write the article like that, but the truth is it seemed like he was taking a sense of perverse joy in Wentz's condition.

It's probably just a case of Ford being a cynical & bitter douchebag.  Or at least I hope it is, anyway. 

[smeags]

im just torn over the whole situation.

[General_Failure]

I thought I was partially torn and would only be upset for a few weeks.

[smeags]

well. looks like its going to take us both 6months at least to heal from this.

[Zanshin]

Honestly, the article was just a waste of time, because it goes without saying. It was almost hyperbolic enough to classify as click-bait. It's a major injury; of course there's risk and anything is possible. Personally, I think he'll come back from it and largely be the same guy, provided they're smart with him. But anything is possible, and it's pretty pointless to speculate about it now because there are too many variables and the guy didn't even have the surgery yet. Plenty of time to wring hands over it, should people want to do so.

what about articles that say he will come back just as good as before

also disgusting click bait?

I don't know. I didn't read it, because it doesn't matter what anyone says right now one way or another. Obviously.

[PhillyPhreak54]

i think its pretty certain he will never be the same but that doesnt mean he cant still be great....his mobility even if it is just an attitude change (and its very possible he isnt physically the same) towards running will be lessened and that is a huge part of his game.....hes not some in the pocket super high percentage passer

If that is the Bob Ford slop...not even clicking on it. What a steaming pile of shtein.

lol....feelings....nothing more than feelings....trying to forget my feelings

Picture me trollin'!

Doctor Havas...ACLs are commonplace and the likelihood of that being anything more than a "routine" injury is slim. So your "pretty certain" is nothing more than woe is me crap. But you said he wasn't any good anyways so what does it matter?