enough back and forth. Step up to the plate and lets have it for all to see.
I say no way.
id say a good chance if there wasnt a team as aggresive as denver in the mix...the eagles just arent gonna do what it takes to beat out a franchise like that for a player
no.
It ain't gonna happen.
Walker will be an Eagle. Tell your friends. Im here all day
In the dream world....yes. In reality....no
Quote from: mikey418 on April 21, 2006, 08:32:03 AM
In the dream world....yes. In reality....no
Don't hedge your bets. Man up, and pick one or the other!
no
Ah, what the hell?! Walker - Brown - Gaffney in '06.
No
i don't see it happening.
no, but i will say i hope i'm wrong on this one.
No.
Yes--the Eagles send a 2006 3rd and a 2007 conditional 4th that can become a 3rd if he leads the team in catches, yardage AND TDs. I think we'll see a change in the way the Eagles do business in this draft--whereas before they moved up, it's more expensive to move up when you're drafting in the top 15 and trying to move into the top 10. Therefore, I believe they'll move down and recoup that draft pick.
Denver can still move up to No.4 and draft Vernon Davis, with whomever is there. The 15th, 36th (fm SF), and 68th (also fm SF) add up to 1840--the No.4 pick is valued at 1800, so they'd still have their original 2nd rounder and all 4ths. That's why I think they made that trade.
Nope. I dont see this front office stepping up. It makes no sense either if they have Stovall targeted in the third, it dont see Stovall becoming what Walker is torn acl and all..
Absofarginlutely they will.
No. They stay where they are at and get Stovall in the second or third. It's all part of the "plan".
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2006, 09:26:20 AM
Nope. I dont see this front office stepping up.
Depends what "stepping up" is going to entail. If the Broncos are going to give a 2nd & a 3rd, I'd hate to see the Eagles match that. If it's only a 3rd & maybe a conditional 2007 pick, I can honestly see them pulling the trigger.
On that note, my answer is NO because I'm use to disappointment.
no chance. we'll draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round.
I would love to walker if he can perform, but then again its up in the air on how he's going to do. I am sure the FO is well aware of this and that will decide the deal or not.
Quote from: mussa on April 21, 2006, 10:27:16 AM
I would love to walker if he can perform, but then again its up in the air on how he's going to do. I am sure the FO is well aware of this and that will decide the deal or not.
Yes, or no?
:-D no
I don't think the eagles are in the business of risk taking anymore.
That's actually untrue. They only take risks when the timing is awful and the possible reward is low.
Like trying to pass for the first down against the Cowboys on Monday night last year instead of running time off.
yes
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/Tyrone_Biggums.jpg)
Yes. I think this feels more like a Jevon Kearse risk than a Terrell Owens one.
Yeah, but neither of those risks really worked out.
life is like a dice game
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 21, 2006, 11:24:07 AM
Yeah, but neither of those risks really worked out.
Yep, that's why I think it is going to happen. The only way Walker will be successful in this league is if he signs with someone else. If the Eagles trade for him, he'll be a Small/Johnson/Thrash type bust
brilliant!
No chance.
We'll be entering the season with the fearsome trio of Brown-Gaffney-Pinkston. :yay
I can see no reason why we would want to start the season with two WRs recovering from injuries.
Complete foolishness.
QuoteThey only take risks when the timing is awful and the possible reward is low.
Therefore, I vote yes.
It's a done deal.
I hate it.
No
Nope
i am going to say no.
unless there is some point before now and next friday (a day before the draft) the packers give walker permission to talk to other teams about working out a contract.
To me its about asking price, which reportedly is way too high.
I say nay.
No
:evil :evil :evil...we ask the Football Gods for another blessing that will bring us a step closer to winning a championship. We have faith in the Football Gods and their will. We pray that the Great Eagle in the sky and his army of Eagle fans will be force enough to persuade the Football Gods. :evil :evil :evil
...and we pray. :evil
...my spirit says 'Yes'. :evil
you hate that symbol
No. I think they'd send enough to get him, but he won't renegotiate to numbers appealing to the Birds.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2006, 08:23:47 AM
id say a good chance if there wasnt a team as aggresive as denver in the mix...the eagles just arent gonna do what it takes to beat out a franchise like that for a player
No.
Is sure sounds like Denver is hard up for a WR. Why they ever took Lelie with a #1 pick I'll never know. He's a good WR but by no means will he ever be a number one go to guy. Denver appears to be on a mission and I can't se the birds getting into a bidding war over Walker.
Draft Stovall.
They took Lelie the pick before the Packers took Walker in 2002.
I say refer to my avatar.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 21, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
They took Lelie the pick before the Packers took Walker in 2002.
Good memory. I totally forgot about that. Even people herein Hawaii were surprised he went in the first. We all thought mid second round.
Ashley meet Rod Gardner :-D. Rod meet JJ Stokes :-D. JJ meet Freddie Mitchell. :boom
Quote from: Don Ho on April 21, 2006, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 21, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
They took Lelie the pick before the Packers took Walker in 2002.
Good memory. I totally forgot about that. Even people herein Hawaii were surprised he went in the first. We all thought mid second round.
Ashley meet Rod Gardner :-D. Rod meet JJ Stokes :-D. JJ meet Freddie Mitchell. :boom
more like good timing (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=18200.msg407301#msg407301)
Walker in Philly?
Ony when he is playing against the Birds.
shtein ain't happening.
YES
Why? I listened to Banner on Eskin last week. Eskin kept trying to get him to bite on Walker and Joe wouldn't. But Howard then got real general about them going after a player who was young and talented and on the trade market.
Joe said that if Andy and Tom said they wanted him they would be willing to give up a higher draft pick if they felt they could work out an extension with the player so they can ensure he will be there longterm. He said they wouldn't give up as high of a pick if they couldn't work something out contractwise right away.
They have loads of cap money.
They have draft picks to trade.
So I say yes.
i hope ur fargin right.
Yes.
Why? Because Phreak knows Phootball.... :yay
Can't see it happening...no.
no way in hell.
yes
No. I think the Eagles will make a strong attempt, but some other team will outbid what the Eagles are willing to trade for him.
Here's hoping I am pleasantly surprised.
I listened to Banner
first mistake in forming your opinion
not to mention he was being interviewed by eskin...i love king but his head is so far up the eagles front office asses its not even funny...theres no question that most of if not all that interview was pre-scripted
I would like to reiterate that my answer is "nay".
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2006, 09:26:20 AM
Nope. I dont see this front office stepping up. It makes no sense either if they have Stovall targeted in the third, it dont see Stovall becoming what Walker is torn acl and all..
this front office is the "GOLD STANDARD", so i say NO!
More ways to say no:
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 22, 2006, 04:19:30 PM
More ways to say no:
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Nay
Packers | Team fielding calls and offers for J. Walker
Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:31:16 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Green Bay Packers have begun fielding telephone calls, and offers, in terms of trying to decide whether it is worth it to trade disgruntled WR Javon Walker. The Packers made it clear they only will trade Walker for the right price, a high price. Teams at the top of the list include the Denver Broncos and Philadelphia Eagles, but there are at least three other confirmed teams that weighed in Monday, April 24. There is no shortage of suitors for Walker, meaning that it is looking more and more as if Green Bay will trade Walker.
...and we continue to pray! :evil
I still think it's going to be "Nay."
Have to go with "Nay."
This is from Packerschatter from a guy named Randolph Heidler:
Today I was asked about what is happening on the Javon Walker situation. Well I made a couple of calls and got some info for you all. It appears that Ted Thompson is going to try bringing Javon back by trying to start talks for a new contract using the extra money he has this year. If Javon refuses, look for him to be sold to the highest bidder. The 49ers, Broncos. and Saints are making serious offers for Walker.
The Charles Woodson talks have started up again. CW knows that he is running out of time to get the big money before the draft. There is a good chance that he will sign with Green Bay or Tampa before the draft on Saturday. As far as the contract goes, TT isn't offering that much more than what he did before.
Draft:
The packers are looking at Leonard Pope to be their main target in the second round. Other's that have been mentioned in the second round are Ernie Sims, Brian Calhoun, Bob Carpenter, Gabe Watson, and Ray Edwards. I will add details later.
I have heard a lot of potential trades that are being worked on right now. I am not allowed to speak of them because it is highly sensitive information. But alot is happening in 1265, don't think Ted Thompson is sitting on his hands!
Tomorrow: the reason why big names fall.
Anyone who talks about Ernie Sims being a target in the 2nd round is immediately discounted.
Agreed. Stupid comment on his part.
from http://www.delcotimes.com--Bob Grotz: (so much for Denver offering a 2nd for Walker)
Sources say the Eagles offered defensive tackle Hollis Thomas and a sixth-round choice -- not enough, it appears, to get the job done.
ESPN reported the Eagles offered the Packers Thomas and guard Artis Hicks, while the Denver Broncos shopped wide receiver AshleyLelie and a sixth-round pick.
The Packers want a first round pick according to CBS SportsLine.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on April 27, 2006, 03:51:39 AM
The Packers want a first round pick according to CBS SportsLine.
Now this has officially become ridiculous. They want a #1? The guy is coming off a devastating knee injury. Sorry but farg the Packers.
A 3rd round pick would get this thing done. Thomas or Hicks and a 4th would probably get it done.
The Packers are starting their negotiations with a 1st rounder, but they can't seriously expect a 1st in return for Walker. They spent the 22nd pick on him 4 years ago and now they really expect the 14th pick this year... after their guy has a busted ACL? No way they expect that to stick.
Same as negotiating your salary at a new job. You ask for $65-70K knowing damn well that you really want $55-60K.
QuoteWALKER'S CONTRACT DEMANDS MAKE TRADING HIM A CHALLENGE
Although we've heard from a league source that the Green Bay Packers are willing to trade receiver Javon Walker if the price is right, Walker's price tag for a new contract is making it difficult for anyone to justify swinging a deal.
The problem is that, if a team like the Eagles or the Broncos sends a first-day pick to the Pack for the 2004 Pro Bowler, Walker's new team acquires his rights for only one year -- unless they sign him to an extension contemporaneous with the trade.
And Walker, we hear, wants $10 million to $12 million in guaranteed money. With only one solid NFL season after two less-than-stellar campaigns and a torn ACL suffered in Week One of the 2005 season, it's simply too much money to cough up.
It's the same problem that plagues efforts to trade Ashley Lelie of the Broncos and Donte' Stallworth of the Saints. Both have one year left of their deals, both want more than the market will bear, so neither will be swapped unless and until their expectations get far more reasonable.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2423722
QuoteGreen Bay Packers wide receiver Javon Walker has received permission from the team to explore trade opportunities and a deal is expected before this weekend's NFL draft, league sources with direct knowledge of the situation said.
Walker is visiting the New Orleans Saints on Thursday and is scheduled to visit the Denver Broncos on Friday.
The Packers are also engaging in trade talks with the Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles but conversations aren't as far along as they are with the Saints and Broncos. Walker does not have any visits scheduled beyond the Saints and Broncos.
Walker, who underwent surgery in October on an injured anterior cruciate ligament, expects to be ready to go by training camp -- just not with the Packers, he hopes.
Unlike last year when he drew the ire of Brett Favre among others, he promises not to be a disruption, because he doesn't plan to show up at all for training camp.
"If I had to go back there, I'd retire," he told ESPN.com last month. "I don't have to play."
General manager Ted Thompson has said he expects Walker to honor his contract.
"I've spoken with Javon over the course of the spring," Thompson said. "I think I'll let the original statement that we put out stand there. I know that things get said from time to time and I think the less said on something like that, the better."
Thompson did say that he and the team would welcome Walker back.
"I would," Thompson said. "I'm sure the team would. He's very well liked here. I assume you guys would agree with me."
I'd like to remind you all that I said "Nay" all along.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 27, 2006, 10:48:14 AM
I'd like to remind you all that I said "Nay" all along.
Get Porter....
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 27, 2006, 10:48:14 AM
I'd like to remind you all that I said "Nay" all along.
And you really went out on a limb too.
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 27, 2006, 05:17:16 AM
A 3rd round pick would get this thing done. Thomas or Hicks and a 4th would probably get it done.
The Packers are starting their negotiations with a 1st rounder, but they can't seriously expect a 1st in return for Walker. They spent the 22nd pick on him 4 years ago and now they really expect the 14th pick this year... after their guy has a busted ACL? No way they expect that to stick.
Same as negotiating your salary at a new job. You ask for $65-70K knowing damn well that you really want $55-60K.
what a joke offering a decling fat ass like Hollis and a 6th round DP. thats like offering 2 6ths. I say offer them 2 4ths this year and get this thing done with. Better than what this team has done in the draft.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on April 27, 2006, 11:21:52 AM
I say offer them 2 4ths this year and get this thing done with.
Pure genius! Why didn't Andy think of that? Get his fat ass on the phone!
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on April 27, 2006, 11:21:52 AM
what a joke offering a decling fat ass like Hollis and a 6th round DP. thats like offering 2 6ths. I say offer them 2 4ths this year and get this thing done with. Better than what this team has done in the draft.
It all depends on what news source you want to believe. I really don't believe the reports of Hollis & Hicks or the Hollis +6th round pick. If you believe Eskin, he said the Eagles were offering either a 3rd or 4th, while the Broncos were dangling a 2nd or a 3rd.
nyet as nice as it would be to see Walker in Eagles green, it will not happen. one of the other teams will somehow up the ante to a 3rd rounder (maybe a late 2nd?), which the Eagles will not match!....and correctly so....although I still hold out hope.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on April 27, 2006, 11:21:52 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 27, 2006, 05:17:16 AM
A 3rd round pick would get this thing done. Thomas or Hicks and a 4th would probably get it done.
The Packers are starting their negotiations with a 1st rounder, but they can't seriously expect a 1st in return for Walker. They spent the 22nd pick on him 4 years ago and now they really expect the 14th pick this year... after their guy has a busted ACL? No way they expect that to stick.
Same as negotiating your salary at a new job. You ask for $65-70K knowing damn well that you really want $55-60K.
what a joke offering a decling fat ass like Hollis and a 6th round DP. thats like offering 2 6ths. I say offer them 2 4ths this year and get this thing done with. Better than what this team has done in the draft.
First of all the Eagles DON'T HAVE a 6th round pick to trade--they're 6th is a comp pick--which you cannot trade.
Second of all, I'd say that the reson he is visiting the Broncos and Saints is that they have WRs that they're trying to trade and they can be part of the package. The Saints can trade Stallworth and a 4th (because they have no 3rd) and the Broncos can trade Lelie and a 3rd or 4th. The Eagles have no WR that they can trade. I guess they could have traded Rod Hood, but them signing Woodson took care of that need.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on April 27, 2006, 11:54:50 AM
The Eagles have no WR that they can trade.
Sure, they do. Anyone but Brown or Gaffney could be dealt IMO. Pinkston or Lewis, most notably. Their value isn't as good as Stallworth's or Lelie's, but either guy *could* be traded.
They can have Billy Mac. He's big, has three years in the WCO and a lot of upside. We might not even have to throw in a pick....
I would say that there chances of landing him at this point are about 5%.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 27, 2006, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on April 27, 2006, 11:54:50 AM
The Eagles have no WR that they can trade.
Sure, they do. Anyone but Brown or Gaffney could be dealt IMO. Pinkston or Lewis, most notably. Their value isn't as good as Stallworth's or Lelie's, but either guy *could* be traded.
Pinkston is coming off an Achilles injury and somewhat less accomplished than Walker; and Lewis isn't an accomplished starting WR--maybe I should have put the word "accomplished" in there.
Has anyone heard what Denver wants for Lelie? Sure sounds like his days as a Bronco are over.
I wouldn't take him here for free. Pinkston is better.
Nay, they're going to trade for Jerry Porter.
Quote from: troyhstewart on April 27, 2006, 02:39:28 PM
Nay, they're going to trade for Jerry Porter.
I doubt your sincerity? Super.
Nah but I think they will get Driver. >:D
No farging way
I looked but I didnt see it here yet so
QuotePackers | Driver disgruntled over team's failure to redo contract
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:47:01 -0700
Michael Smith, of ESPN.com, reports Green Bay Packers WR Donald Driver is mad that the team has not re-done his deal and wants to be traded or released.
Dont rip my head off if it was posted already.
Packers | Thompson says trade report not accurate
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:41:41 -0700
Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson said an ESPN report that the Packers have given WR Javon Walker permission to seek a trade is inaccurate. The Packers have given teams permission to visit with Walker, but Thompson said it was just a part of the process of fielding offers from other teams. Asked if the odds were that Walker would be traded, Thompson said, "No. I would not think the odds are in favor of that happening. We're just following up on things. I don't necessarily feel this will end in anything. We're going through the process." Thompson did not say that he wouldn't trade Walker, only that it was unlikely it would happen.
According to PFT a visit to Philly is in the "works".
This thread is like reverse masturbation. I don't know what that is, but it would probably feel like this.
shtein, I'll reverse masturbate in public if we get Walker.
Michael Smith, of ESPN.com, reports the Denver Broncos will visit with Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker Friday, April 28.
Saints | Team visiting with J. Walker
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:53:38 -0700
Michael Smith, of ESPN.com, reports the New Orleans Saints will visit with Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker Thursday, April 27.
Once again the Eagles will wait until everyone else caters to him, wine and dines him, and throws hookers at him. We should of been the first ones in for a visit if talks were really serious with GB. Lets wait until Miami and NE get at him too. Cracks me up
Or they're waiting to see what other teams are telling Walker they're going to offer....
Eagles | Team losing interest in J. Walker
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:11:35 -0700
Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports whatever interest the Philadelphia Eagles had in Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker appears to be gone. According to several reports, the Eagles offered the Packers DT Hollis Thomas and a late-round draft pick. The Packers reportedly wanted a first-round pick, but may be willing to settle for a second-round pick and a conditional high-round pick.
Not sure if he has sources or just his opinion.
Heckert on WIP sure didn't sound like a GM of a team that lost interest in Walker.
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 27, 2006, 02:31:16 PM
I wouldn't take him here for free. Pinkston is better.
Remember when Denver drafted WR Marcus Nash from Tennessee a few years ago? Guy never amounted to shtein Looks like Denver is about as successful as the birds in picking WR's(Reggie Brown excluded).
I'm thorugh with the Walker crap. There's just too much speculation. You have Thompson saying they're not going to trade him, even after ESPN says he's going to visit a couple of teams. IMHO, he's screwed this up royally, if they were ever hoping to trade him. Waiting too close to the draft to let teams try to give him a physical, and then work out a contract extension, etc.--this should have been done weeks ago.
Nay. No way they trade for someone who's had such a severe injury, esp. with McNabb, Pinkston and Westbrook's injuries last year.
Quote from: henchmanUK on April 28, 2006, 06:03:32 AM
Nay. No way they trade for someone who's had such a severe injury, esp. with McNabb, Pinkston and Westbrook's injuries last year.
I hope and pray that you are correct.
From JS Online: FWIW
The fact Thompson is allowing Walker to meet with the two teams - both of which presumably wouldn't do a deal unless they were able to see how the torn anterior cruciate ligament in Walker's right knee was healing - means he is open to a trade. But it might all be a fishing expedition Thompson has orchestrated in an attempt to show Walker that interest in him isn't that great and that he would be best served playing out the final year of his contract in Green Bay.
Circumstances, however, don't suggest a deal getting done.
First, there is Thompson's reluctance to allow a disgruntled player to force his way out of Green Bay. Cornerback Mike McKenzie was able to do it when Mike Sherman was general manager and if Walker can do it, the Packers are likely to run into this problem again.
Then there is the difficulty of trading a player with one year left on his contract. Any team that acquires him is going to want to extend his deal so that its investment doesn't go to waste after one year.
Then there is the difficulty of trading a player with one year left on his contract. Any team that acquires him is going to want to extend his deal so that its investment doesn't go to waste after one year.
i dont agree with that...the eagles would love to get him for one year and see how he recovers....then sign him long term if all is well...imo this is the reason they wont get him as there are going to be other teams that will be willing to lock him up for big money from the get go
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2006, 09:21:47 AM
Then there is the difficulty of trading a player with one year left on his contract. Any team that acquires him is going to want to extend his deal so that its investment doesn't go to waste after one year.
i dont agree with that...the eagles would love to get him for one year and see how he recovers....then sign him long term if all is well...imo this is the reason they wont get him as there are going to be other teams that will be willing to lock him up for big money from the get go
Case in point: Jabar Gaffney. Not an injury, true, but the same situation.
Very true. The Eagles would like to keep him for a year on his current deal, I'm sure... but his complaint with Green Bay isn't just Favre and Green Bay. The money is the underlying cause. So, you have to figure he'd be equally unhappy if traded and didn't receive a new deal.
So, you have to figure he'd be equally unhappy if traded and didn't receive a new deal.
with his knee injury tho the circumstances are quite different...he shouldnt have to sign a small one year deal but he also cant expect to be looking for what he was pre injury
if im the eagles offer him like seven million on a one year deal...its gets you a look at him and negotiating rights for the next contract...its not like they dont have the loot
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2006, 11:11:15 AM
if im the eagles offer him like seven million on a one year deal...its gets you a look at him and negotiating rights for the next contract...its not like they dont have the loot
Wouldn't happen. Either they'll go long-term, so they have the contract to keep him should he prove healthy and perform well, or they'd up his one-year deal only slightly. Giving a guy $7m for his first year off a major injury is outright ridiculous. Because if he ends up earning that money, he's just going to the highest bidder next year. If they'd renegotiate him, they'd put injury/production clauses in the contract so that the deal could benefit both sides.
i know it would never happen but its not ridiculous at all...they have 17 mil to spend this year....they will go into the season with much more than seven mil that will not be spent in season...therefore load it up to walker and at the end of the season its right back on the books...what did you lose?...same thing with corey simon last year...what would you have lost by signing him for 5 mil
of course i would only do this if it meant getting him vs not getting him
and sevne is an arbitrary number i threw out...if he would do a one year deal for five do five
McNabb was on CSN this morning saying that he hopes the team goes after Walker and that he thinks he make a big impact here...
The last time #5 asked for a WR he got it...
yeah, how'd that turn out overall?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 28, 2006, 12:06:15 PM
yeah, how'd that turn out overall?
Good for a year. I would take that right now.
sources close to the organization have said that the Packers have reached an agreement with Denver to send the #5 (aka Vernon Davis) and Javon Walker to Denver, for Ashley Lelie, their 1st Rd. pick (15), their early 2nd Rd. pick (5) and a pick to be named later.
Heres your latest and greatest rumor I just read. The source also said the person that posted this (on the GB message board) also knew about the Woodson signing way before it happened. Take it FWIW, Im just putting it out there. Although I cant see why anyone would let a physical freak like Vernon Davis slip away. He creates way too many mismatches for any team and no doubt will be a stud. i know Lelie and Walker cant.
Also, the hot topic yesterday on Sirius with was all about the Eagles in serious talks with GB and when commented by a caller about talks being cut off-- they said it was just to come back with a more significant offer for him. F-in rumors--just get it over with.
so denver gives a 2nd and lelie to move up to five
AND gets walker
i dont think so
unless the named later pick is a first rounder next year or something
Lelie's value is not THAT much less than Walker's right now (because of Walker's injury status). If that deal actually happened, the pick to be named would probably be a 2007 2nd or 3rd rounder. Definitely not a 1st.
thats a no brainer for denver...they hate lelie anyway
veedee alone is worth the second rounder and lelie...and on top of that they get walker and a pick
Quote from: reese125 on April 28, 2006, 02:25:37 PM
sources close to the organization have said that the Packers have reached an agreement with Denver to send the #5 (aka Vernon Davis) and Javon Walker to Denver, for Ashley Lelie, their 1st Rd. pick (15), their early 2nd Rd. pick (5) and a pick to be named later.
Heres your latest and greatest rumor I just read. The source also said the person that posted this (on the GB message board) also knew about the Woodson signing way before it happened. Take it FWIW, Im just putting it out there. Although I cant see why anyone would let a physical freak like Vernon Davis slip away. He creates way too many mismatches for any team and no doubt will be a stud. i know Lelie and Walker cant.
Also, the hot topic yesterday on Sirius with was all about the Eagles in serious talks with GB and when commented by a caller about talks being cut off-- they said it was just to come back with a more significant offer for him. F-in rumors--just get it over with.
What GB message board?
no shtein it's a no brainer for Denver, it's a total rape job
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2006, 02:35:52 PM
veedee alone is worth the second rounder and lelie...and on top of that they get walker and a pick
No, they get V.D. (pick #5) and Walker only. Green Bay gets Lelie, the #15 pick, the #37 pick, and another pick (probably a 2007 first day pick). It's really a very fair deal and will be lopsided in Green Bay's favor if Walker is not 100% this year. Lelie is the perfect receiver for a wild QB like Favre. "Go long, and I'll chuck it deep."
supposedly someone from the GB message board put it out there. I got this news from the Huddle. NO idea if its true, but what is wrote could actually fly-- so again take it as just a rumor for us to keep pounding away on.
Quote from: reese125 on April 28, 2006, 02:25:37 PM
sources close to the organization have said that the Packers have reached an agreement with Denver to send the #5 (aka Vernon Davis) and Javon Walker to Denver, for Ashley Lelie, their 1st Rd. pick (15), their early 2nd Rd. pick (5) and a pick to be named later.
Highway robbery for Denver. No way that happens.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 28, 2006, 02:39:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2006, 02:35:52 PM
veedee alone is worth the second rounder and lelie...and on top of that they get walker and a pick
No, they get V.D. (pick #5) and Walker only. Green Bay gets Lelie, the #15 pick, the #37 pick, and another pick (probably a 2007 first day pick). It's really a very fair deal and will be lopsided in Green Bay's favor if Walker is not 100% this year. Lelie is the perfect receiver for a wild QB like Favre. "Go long, and I'll chuck it deep to a defender."
No, they get V.D. (pick #5) and Walker only.
they are getting walker and the right to get vd (by moving up) for lelie and a second rounder
Green Bay gets Lelie, the #15 pick, the #37 pick, and another pick (probably a 2007 first day pick).
gb gets the 15th pick but you dont really count that as thats 10 spots worse than #5...
the swap of first rounder favors denver big time
lelie and a #2 for walker = favors denver slightly and could favor them HUGE
all together = denver wins big
Your logic is as flawless as your winning good looks.
Plus he's got 6666 posts.
Green Bay Inks DT Kenderick Allen
Adding an experienced run-stopper to their defensive line, the Green Bay Packers Wednesday signed free agent Kenderick Allen. Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson announced the addition.
Allen, a 6-foot-5, 328-pound defensive tackle out of Louisiana State, joins the Packers from the New York Giants, where he spent the previous two seasons.
In a reserve role, Allen played in 14 total games last year, recording 21 tackles (15 solo), two sacks and two fumble recoveries. In a division contest at Philadelphia (Dec. 11), he recovered a Mike McMahon fumble in overtime to give New York possession on the Eagles' 27-yard line, setting up the game-winning field goal.
Overall in three NFL seasons, Allen has played in 29 games with three starts, amassing 51 tackles (40 solo), three sacks and a pair of fumble recoveries.
A nondrafted free agent, Allen originally entered the NFL with the New Orleans Saints in 2003. He joined the Giants on waivers in 2004.
Well, now I think they have 6 or 7 DT's total in the rotation-after Grady Jackson . Having a hard time seeing where Hollis Thomas fits in here
Broncos | Need to come up with a better offer for J. Walker
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:12:32 -0700
ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Denver Broncos are interested in Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker, but they need to improve their offer to have a chance to acquire him. The Packers probably don't want WR Ashley Lelie of the Broncos in a trade so Denver will have to do some scrambling to pull off a deal for Walker.
Packers | Not looking good for Walker trade
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:09:46 -0700
ESPN.com's John Clayton reports it does not appear the Green Bay Packers will be trading WR Javon Walker before the NFL Draft. The Packers won't settle for just a second-round pick. The New Orleans Saints showed some interest in Walker but don't except a trade there. The Philadelphia Eagles and New England Patriots are in the background but the price might be tough to meet.
The Packers aren't getting anything of higher value than a 2nd rounder, so... oh, well.
We'll see how this all shakes out closer to training camp.
If all the teams that want him address their receiver needs in the draft, the market will even be thinner than it is now.
I say if he's not traded by monday he won't be dealt at all.
No one's going to address any receiver *needs* with this draft.
Santonio's the only guy that's anywhere close to NFL-ready as a receiver.
Walker might have a lot more trade value if teams don't feel they're up against the wall with little time to evaluate his injury. Also, his injury is definitely not healed as of now, but as it improves, his value should go up too. Plus, injuries happen to other teams' receivers in minicamps/training camp/pre-season also.
I'd say Walker definitely gets traded SOMEWHERE, eventually.
If Denver drafts Chad Jackson, and then trade for Walker, then what would they have drafted Chad Jackson for? They would've spent the 14th pick overall for their 3rd receiver? Assuming Lelie is their #2 after Smith leaves?
If teams take receivers early, they take them because they think they wll have an immediate impact or the following season they will come in and start.
Plus if Walker is dealt after the draft, then e'd have to be traded for next year's draft choices, and I don't think anyone will give that up not knowing where they'll be picking a year from tomorrow.
It'll probably come down to the deals that were originally rumored. Something like Darwin Walker and a 6th or Lelie and a 6th. No one IMO is going to give up a pick in rounds 1-3 and maybe 4 not knowing how good their draft selections will be next season. Then Green Bay probably wouldn't accept the offers.
Lelie's leaving at some point this year or next anyway. They could use both Jackson and Walker in 2007 and beyond.
BTW, I'm hearing rumors that the Eagles are actually high on Jackson. Meh.
Santonio's the only guy that's anywhere close to NFL-ready as a receiver.
based on?
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 28, 2006, 05:12:18 PM
Lelie's leaving at some point this year or next anyway. They could use both Jackson and Walker in 2007 and beyond.
BTW, I'm hearing rumors that the Eagles are actually high on Jackson. Meh.
I really like Jackson. Of course it's nothing but a crapshoot with the draft, but I think he'd make a really good receiver here. I've said before if we can't trade up for Bunkley or Ngata then we should draft Jackson.
I think he'd start too.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 28, 2006, 04:55:22 PM
No one's going to address any receiver *needs* with this draft.
Santonio's the only guy that's anywhere close to NFL-ready as a receiver.
Walker might have a lot more trade value if teams don't feel they're up against the wall with little time to evaluate his injury. Also, his injury is definitely not healed as of now, but as it improves, his value should go up too. Plus, injuries happen to other teams' receivers in minicamps/training camp/pre-season also.
I'd say Walker definitely gets traded SOMEWHERE, eventually.
I don't think this draft is quite as weak at WR as some perceive. There are some guys that are going to be had in the 2nd and beyond that I think are going to be fine NFL receivers. I think Greg Lee is going to be a steal for someone, there are also guys like Stovall, D. Williams, Baskett, and T. Wilson that are going to make some plays as rookies.
Jonathan Orr's the one I'd most like to see them get.
I am hoping for Travis Wilson if they don't get Stovall.
Eagles | Team checking out J. Walker
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:25:15 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker is being checked out by Philadelphia Eagles trainers in the Boston area Friday, April 28.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 28, 2006, 09:30:39 PM
Jonathan Orr's the one I'd most like to see them get.
Are you making fun of me sir? If not you are the first person I saw agree with me on that one.
WALKER GOES HOME
After trips to New Orleans and Denver, receiver Javon Walker is heading home.
Opting not to follow through on a visit to New England after the Broncos previously persuded him to delay his visit, Walker is (we're told) tired or traveling.
Meanwhile, we hear that the Saints, Broncos, and Pats are each offering up a second-round pick for Walker. Green Bay is still insisting on a first-rounder.
Then there is this.
Orr is a headcase. Id be surprised if Reid goes that way after dealing with TO.
QuoteEagles | Walker will meet with team Saturday
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:42:43 -0700
Bill Williamson, of the Denver Post, reports Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker is expected to meet with the Philadelphia Eagles Saturday, April 29.
Sweet.
And we pray :evil
One thing, in my opinion, to watch out for today is this:
If the Saints decide to capitalize on holding the #2 pick with Reggie Bush still on the board they could be in a position to acquire Javon Walker for what Green Bay is asking for - a 1st round pick.
Let's say that the Jets want Bush. And let's say that the Jets trade their 4th overall pick and the 29th overall pick to New Orleans to make the jump to #2. Yeah it doesn't work out on the Trade Value Chart (#2 = 2600 points. #4 [2200] + #29 [720]) but if NY is desperate to add Reggie they could go above the value.
So that leave the Saints with the 4th overall pick and the 29th overall pick.
They could draft D'Brickashaw Ferguson 4th overall and then trade the 29th pick to the Packers for Walker.
And we know the Saints are interested in Walker because he visited there.
Something to keep an eye on.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 02:10:56 AM
One thing, in my opinion, to watch out for today is this:
If the Saints decide to capitalize on holding the #2 pick with Reggie Bush still on the board they could be in a position to acquire Javon Walker for what Green Bay is asking for - a 1st round pick.
Let's say that the Jets want Bush. And let's say that the Jets trade their 4th overall pick and the 29th overall pick to New Orleans to make the jump to #2. Yeah it doesn't work out on the Trade Value Chart (#2 = 2600 points. #4 [2200] + #29 [720]) but if NY is desperate to add Reggie they could go above the value.
So that leave the Saints with the 4th overall pick and the 29th overall pick.
They could draft D'Brickashaw Ferguson 4th overall and then trade the 29th pick to the Packers for Walker.
And we know the Saints are interested in Walker because he visited there.
Something to keep an eye on.
Good observation. I still can't believe any one would give up a #1 for Walker.
Well, the Saints could also get the early 2nd from the Jets (closer to correct trade value) and trade THAT for Walker.
FYI and FWIW:
QuoteWALK ON
The New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles, Denver Broncos and Green Bay Packers are going to have an extraordinarily busy draft day. And not just with draft prospects.
Each of the three teams is discussing a draft-day deal with the Packers to land the wide receiver coming off a torn anterior cruciate ligament.
Javon Walker spent Friday visiting with the Broncos, who tried keeping him in Denver. But somehow, the Patriots wrestled him away, and now, New England and Philadelphia's trainers will administer physicals to Walker in the Boston area.
But Walker's medical reports already checked out in other cities he visited.
So, the Eagles sent trainers up to Boston to check out Walker today. Very interesting.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 01:14:52 AM
Sweet.
And we pray :evil
guess it worked before.
And we pray. :evil
From Chris Steuber the draft guru guy with his own section on the EMB:
QuoteJavon's in Philly meeting with the team and taking a physical this morning.
Chris
And FYI NFL channel is reporting the same thing. Javon Walker is in Philly this morning.
Excellent. Now we just need to push for him like a child birth and get him in Philly. As long as it doesn't completely destroy their draft plans, they should do whatever it takes to get him. Start offering picks next year. They want 2 2nds then offer our 2nd this year and one next year. IMO it's worth the risk because he's so good. Meanwhile I'm sure the Eagles could do something in the meantime to get a 2nd round pick for next year back. They are good at trading for future picks.
I wouldn't trade 2 2nd's for a guy coming off an ACL injury. A 2nd and a 4th would get it done IMO.
Well the rumors are the Packers turned down a 2nd from the Broncos and Lelie. That to me is the same thing as a 2nd and a 4th and if they offered the pick they got from San Fran then it's even better than that offer.
We need to blow the Packers away so a bidding war doesn't start. Eagles will fold in a bidding war.
Two 2nds for a guy with one good season and shredded knee ligaments? With Andy Reid?
Now Spew is saying he has Walker news on Eagles live. Probably that he's in Philly, but who knows...maybe there's a trade in the works.
*Minor update* Reid confirms Walkers in Philly
ahhhhhhhhhh
Merrill Reese: "there's a good chance Walker will be wearing Eagles green"
Oh boy oh boy. If he's in Philly on draft day I'd say that's a pretty big sign.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 12:11:35 PM
Merrill Reese: "there's a good chance Walker will be wearing Eagles green"
well...come on, its merill "i love every eagles draft pick and free agent signing" reese.
You mean Merrill "The Eagles have control over whether I keep my job" Reese? Regardless of his lack of objectivity, like Spads I'm sure he knows more about the Walker situation than the average fan.
reeses boss is wysp.
Quote from: MDS on April 29, 2006, 12:22:14 PM
reeses boss is wysp.
The Eagles have veto power over the announcers as part of WYSP's contract with the Eagles.
Spew reporting Walker could be an Eagle today, can't hear what he's saying but from what I'm reading on the EMB its sounding like its a real possibility. Maybe Mr. Ed will enlighten us.
pre cum has been found
I would be absolutely out of my mind if they got him. Philly Forever wouldn't look like such a dumbass if they got him. They should give up a 2nd rounder and conditional second next year.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 12:55:51 PM
I would be absolutely out of my mind if they got him. Philly Forever wouldn't look like such a dumbass if they got him. They should give up a 2nd rounder and conditional second next year.
I guess if the Eagles were going to take Stovall anyway....I just really like second round picks.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 12:53:55 PMMaybe Mr. Ed will enlighten us.
The horse?
I'm not listening to Eagles Live because people are complaining about audio problems.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 29, 2006, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 12:53:55 PMMaybe Mr. Ed will enlighten us.
The horse?
I'm not listening to Eagles Live because people are complaining about audio problems.
I had the same problems so I said farg it. Thought maybe you had some inside info from Mr. NC.
Please, please, please, please, please.
Please.
let me help there phreak...
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 29, 2006, 11:17:16 AM
Well the rumors are the Packers turned down a 2nd from the Broncos and Lelie. That to me is the same thing as a 2nd and a 4th and if they offered the pick they got from San Fran then it's even better than that offer.
We need to blow the Packers away so a bidding war doesn't start. Eagles will fold in a bidding war.
Yeah but Lelie may have been the deal breaker in that one.
Thanks, Sun. We need all the help we can get today.
Please, please, please, please, please trade for Javon Walker, Andy.
For the love of cheesesteaks and beer get him in Philadelphia.
I'll help as well please, please, please, please, please! :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil
This is second hand info, but someone on the EMB reported Reid said its just a matter of working out some minor details. As always take it FWIW.
por favor por favor por favor por favor por favor por favor por favor
Jizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztacular.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
This is second hand info, but someone on the EMB reported Reid said its just a matter of working out some minor details. As always take it FWIW.
the way Andy Reid understates shtein..minor details are probably the draft picks and players for compensation
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 29, 2006, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
This is second hand info, but someone on the EMB reported Reid said its just a matter of working out some minor details. As always take it FWIW.
the way Andy Reid understates shtein..minor details are probably the draft picks and players for compensation
boo! Don't rain on our parade.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 29, 2006, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
This is second hand info, but someone on the EMB reported Reid said its just a matter of working out some minor details. As always take it FWIW.
the way Andy Reid understates shtein..minor details are probably the draft picks and players for compensation
Unfortunately correct. haha.
PE.com Walker in Philly (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=47752)
QuoteWR WALKER IN PHILLY FOR VISIT
April 29, 2006
By ZACH BERMAN
Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid confirmed to PhiladelphiaEagles.com on Saturday morning that the Eagles have an interest in Green Bay Packers wide receiver Javon Walker, who's requested a trade.
"We're communicating," Reid said. "It's a matter of a couple scenarios and we just have to work through it and see how it works today."
WR Javon Walker
Walker, a Pro Bowler in 2004, missed 15 games last season with a knee injury. In that 2004 season, though, he had 89 catches for 1,382 yards and 12 touchdowns. He's since refused to play for the Packers, and reports have linked Walker and the Eagles throughout the off-season.
Reid did not discuss specifics about the parameters of a deal or whether Walker's come to Philadelphia for a physical.
"There's a chance of (Walker coming to Philadelphia)," Reid said. "He'll come in for a physical if it gets down to that point."
Between now and then, the Eagles sit comfortably with six picks in the first four rounds. It allows the Eagles flexibility to either draft prospects or acquire a veteran like Walker.
"It's always a crazy day on draft day," Reid said. "That's another little wrinkle we're looking at."
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 01:25:38 PM
PE.com Walker in Philly (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=47752)
QuoteWR WALKER IN PHILLY FOR VISIT
April 29, 2006
By ZACH BERMAN
Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid confirmed to PhiladelphiaEagles.com on Saturday morning that the Eagles have an interest in Green Bay Packers wide receiver Javon Walker, who's requested a trade.
"We're communicating," Reid said. "It's a matter of a couple scenarios and we just have to work through it and see how it works today."
WR Javon Walker
Walker, a Pro Bowler in 2004, missed 15 games last season with a knee injury. In that 2004 season, though, he had 89 catches for 1,382 yards and 12 touchdowns. He's since refused to play for the Packers, and reports have linked Walker and the Eagles throughout the off-season.
Reid did not discuss specifics about the parameters of a deal or whether Walker's come to Philadelphia for a physical.
"There's a chance of (Walker coming to Philadelphia)," Reid said. "He'll come in for a physical if it gets down to that point."
Between now and then, the Eagles sit comfortably with six picks in the first four rounds. It allows the Eagles flexibility to either draft prospects or acquire a veteran like Walker.
"It's always a crazy day on draft day," Reid said. "That's another little wrinkle we're looking at."
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As tight lipped as Reid is I would say Walker already has his locker picked out.
Splooge on my screen.
ready to shoot my wad
oooo virgin jokes. wowee wowee wee waa
any more news on this?
Reub's phone is off? ;)
For what it is worth Spads said he can't believe this is a trade that hasn't gone through yet.
zOMG
So in 24 hours, this thing has gone from just about dead to just about to happen. Amazing. C'mon Reid...GET WALKER!
It seems like it has died again, from what they are saying on Eagles Live the Packers don't want to trade him within the Conference.
Dear God...
As one of your children... I am praying to you to somehow let Javon Walker find his way to the Philadelphia Eagles.
And we pray....
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 04:42:45 PM
It seems like it has died again, from what they are saying on Eagles Live the Packers don't want to trade him within the Conference.
From what WHO is saying? Callers?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 04:42:45 PM
It seems like it has died again, from what they are saying on Eagles Live the Packers don't want to trade him within the Conference.
From what WHO is saying? Callers?
Npt even PG. Spew and Merrill are going off fourth party sources.
Wow, terribly reliable info there. LOL
That is what Spads was saying, but like I said take it FWIW.
Maybe the reason the trade hasn't gone through yet is because they might have been trying to move into the lower first round as reported earlier. Lets just all see what happens.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:11:38 PM
Maybe the reason the trade hasn't gone through yet is because they might have been trying to move into the lower first round as reported earlier. Lets just all see what happens.
Your right, but at this point if something is going to get done it would have to happen soon I would think.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:11:38 PM
Maybe the reason the trade hasn't gone through yet is because they might have been trying to move into the lower first round as reported earlier. Lets just all see what happens.
My line of thinking - knowing how high the Eagles are on Stovall - is if he's not there when they pick then they'll pull the trigger on the Walker trade.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:11:38 PM
Maybe the reason the trade hasn't gone through yet is because they might have been trying to move into the lower first round as reported earlier. Lets just all see what happens.
My line of thinking - knowing how high the Eagles are on Stovall - is if he's not there when they pick then they'll pull the trigger on the Walker trade.
Not sure where all of the Stovall talk comes from anyway?
But Reid loves Walker and he's proven (albeit coming off injury).
Like we all agreed on this site Walker was never worth a first round pick. Here we go. Watch the Donkeys and the Pats.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 29, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
Like we all agreed on this site Walker was never worth a first round pick. Here we go. Watch the Donkeys and the Pats.
??
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:11:38 PM
Maybe the reason the trade hasn't gone through yet is because they might have been trying to move into the lower first round as reported earlier. Lets just all see what happens.
My line of thinking - knowing how high the Eagles are on Stovall - is if he's not there when they pick then they'll pull the trigger on the Walker trade.
Not sure where all of the Stovall talk comes from anyway?
But Reid loves Walker and he's proven (albeit coming off injury).
Ummmm...didn't you get the memo?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2006, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 29, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
Like we all agreed on this site Walker was never worth a first round pick. Here we go. Watch the Donkeys and the Pats.
??
When the rumors were flying around the past few days that the Packers wanted a first round pick for Walker it was dream on and now with the new rumors about Green Bay not wanting to trade him to another NFC team - oh shtein wait! Pats - Chad Jackson. OK one down. Donkeys up next.
Here's another thought, maybe a trade is in place and Walker is in town negotiating a contract.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 05:29:33 PM
Here's another thought, maybe a trade is in place and Walker is in town negotiating a contract.
And here we go..............................farg a duck! Commercial :boom
Javon Walker traded to Denver for a 2nd round pick. farg!!!!!!!!!
And Maybe Andy Reid will run the ball this year.
it was too good to be true
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 05:32:01 PM
Javon Walker traded to Denver for a 2nd round pick. farg!!!!!!!!!
shtein word.
Well Hopefully we get Moss or Justice that will help remove the sting from the blow. Really I am not that pissed because the Eagles got Bunkley so it is going well anyway.
espn.com is crashing from all the traffic. according to me.
A high 2nd. Stupid.
Atlanta is on the clock are they moving up for White? Or could it be Justice?
yay for not getting deals done!!
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 29, 2006, 05:35:50 PM
yay for not getting deals done!!
If the Eagles were offering a second and Denver was offering a second they would take Denvers because it was higher.
ATL picked Jimmy Williams. Good for them.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 05:37:06 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 29, 2006, 05:35:50 PM
yay for not getting deals done!!
If the Eagles were offering a second and Denver was offering a second they would take Denvers because it was higher.
if only you were allowed to trade more than one draft pick at a time....damn these trading rules
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 29, 2006, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 05:37:06 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 29, 2006, 05:35:50 PM
yay for not getting deals done!!
If the Eagles were offering a second and Denver was offering a second they would take Denvers because it was higher.
if only you were allowed to trade more than one draft pick at a time....damn these trading rules
How much would you have wanted to trade up to get him?
they have 31 fourth round picks, a 2nd and a 4th is better than a 2nd, right?
Looks like Andy Reid's final answer was no, too.
Definitely not patting myself, but I cant believe I posted that rumor and it actually came true. Whoever is on the GB message board has some serious connections to report that. I really thought we would get him somehow
Im f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 05:56:05 PM
Definitely not patting myself, but I cant believe I posted that rumor and it actually came true. Whoever is on the GB message board has some serious connections to report that. I really thought we would get him somehow
Im f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
Only reason I'm not pissed is because of the Justice pick. Hopefully we can still get Stovall.
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 05:56:05 PMIm f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
:-D
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 05:56:05 PM
Definitely not patting myself, but I cant believe I posted that rumor and it actually came true. Whoever is on the GB message board has some serious connections to report that. I really thought we would get him somehow
Im f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
Only reason I'm not pissed is because of the Justice pick. Hopefully we can still get Stovall.
SD, aside from the Walker junk, this is truly a happy draft year for the birds. True caliber players to build around.
Brandon Marshall
Jeff Webb
Greg Jennings
Maurice Stovall
Good players still out there,
Couldn't agree more. This day is working out better than I could imagine.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 05:56:05 PM
Definitely not patting myself, but I cant believe I posted that rumor and it actually came true. Whoever is on the GB message board has some serious connections to report that. I really thought we would get him somehow
Im f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
Only reason I'm not pissed is because of the Justice pick. Hopefully we can still get Stovall.
Have you completely lost your koo-koo-nut?
The Eagles got the top two guys they were targeting and you're worried about Mo Stovall?
:-D
Farg Walker. Reggie Brown, man. REGGIE BROWN.
and now, for another beer...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
Brandon Marshall
Jeff Webb
Greg Jennings
Maurice Stovall
Good players still out there,
You also could throw in the Williams kid from Oregon, Wilson from Oklahoma, and Hagans from ASU.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
Brandon Marshall
Jeff Webb
Greg Jennings
Maurice Stovall
Good players still out there,
Sinorice Moss is ranked higher then all of them, which is good. I dont really want him anywyas, it'll push one of them further down. If Marshall or Stovall is the 3rd round...Holy shtein.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 29, 2006, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 05:56:05 PM
Definitely not patting myself, but I cant believe I posted that rumor and it actually came true. Whoever is on the GB message board has some serious connections to report that. I really thought we would get him somehow
Im f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
Only reason I'm not pissed is because of the Justice pick. Hopefully we can still get Stovall.
Have you completely lost your koo-koo-nut?
The Eagles got the top two guys they were targeting and you're worried about Mo Stovall?
:-D
If you think I'm complaining I'm not. I couldn't be happier how today has gone down. I think we absolutely stole both players. If we could somehow maneuver a way to get Stovall it would just be that much sweeter. We'd be having our cake and eating it too.
If you asked me before the draft that I could have Justice and Stovall or Walker?
Gimme Justice and Stovall baby. I hope we can get Stovall, it would make this draft a dream.
It wasn't our fault GB didnt' wanna trade him to the NFC.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
Brandon Marshall
Jeff Webb
Greg Jennings
Maurice Stovall
Good players still out there,
You also could throw in the Williams kid from Oregon, Wilson from Oklahoma, and Hagans from ASU.
Yeah, I forgot about Demetrius Williams. I am not a Wilson and Hagans fan at all.
Hagan is from ASU, Hagans is the QB on UVA who will probably be a WR in the NFL.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2006, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
Brandon Marshall
Jeff Webb
Greg Jennings
Maurice Stovall
Good players still out there,
You also could throw in the Williams kid from Oregon, Wilson from Oklahoma, and Hagans from ASU.
Yeah, I forgot about Demetrius Williams. I am not a Wilson and Hagans fan at all.
I like Wilson a lot I think he was just in a bad situation in OU with them running so much and poor QB play.
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 29, 2006, 05:56:05 PM
Definitely not patting myself, but I cant believe I posted that rumor and it actually came true. Whoever is on the GB message board has some serious connections to report that. I really thought we would get him somehow
Im f-in angrier than a bunch of skinheads watching the Jeffersons right now. .
Only reason I'm not pissed is because of the Justice pick. Hopefully we can still get Stovall.
SD, aside from the Walker junk, this is truly a happy draft year for the birds. True caliber players to build around.
You damn skippy it is... :yay
Btw... I think I'll go ahead and say "nay".
One final thing before we bury this topic. Bob Grotz said in his article this morning that the Eagles privately offered the 45th pick for Walker, but GB took the better offer.
I can't blame the Eagles for not going any higher than #45. At least they took a valid shot.
I'm still holding out hope.
NBC10 reported the #45 trade offer as well. Heckert said that they talked a lot with Green Bay but he started to feel like it was a waste of time dealing with them so they traded up instead to get Justice....
I don't think GB would've traded him to the NFC unless we offered a 3rd round pick on top, and that simply isn't worth it for a player coming off an ACL tear.
There is still time to find a receiver. Someone like Joe Horn could shake loose.
Quote from: Philly Forever on May 01, 2006, 12:05:15 AM
I don't think GB would've traded him to the NFC unless we offered a 3rd round pick on top, and that simply isn't worth it for a player coming off an ACL tear.
There is still time to find a receiver. Someone like Joe Horn could shake loose.
You said he was worth 2 2nds just yesterday.
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 29, 2006, 11:14:45 AM
Excellent. Now we just need to push for him like a child birth and get him in Philly. As long as it doesn't completely destroy their draft plans, they should do whatever it takes to get him. Start offering picks next year. They want 2 2nds then offer our 2nd this year and one next year. IMO it's worth the risk because he's so good. Meanwhile I'm sure the Eagles could do something in the meantime to get a 2nd round pick for next year back. They are good at trading for future picks.
To which I replied:
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 11:15:42 AM
I wouldn't trade 2 2nd's for a guy coming off an ACL injury. A 2nd and a 4th would get it done IMO.
Don't mean to toot my own horn but....
Quote from: Philly Forever on May 01, 2006, 12:05:15 AM
I don't think GB would've traded him to the NFC unless we offered a 3rd round pick on top, and that simply isn't worth it for a player coming off an ACL tear.
There is still time to find a receiver. Someone like Joe Horn could shake loose.
And why would Joe Horn shake loose?
They're trying to unload Stallworth as it is. If they let go of Horn, who do they have to catch the ball?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2006, 12:45:10 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on May 01, 2006, 12:05:15 AM
I don't think GB would've traded him to the NFC unless we offered a 3rd round pick on top, and that simply isn't worth it for a player coming off an ACL tear.
There is still time to find a receiver. Someone like Joe Horn could shake loose.
And why would Joe Horn shake loose?
They're trying to unload Stallworth as it is. If they let go of Horn, who do they have to catch the ball?
You can't expect him to think that far ahead, can you?
Good point. :-D
Reggie Bush! They should trade away the rest of their offensive skill players now!
FWIW, Eskin said that the Eagles had a contract worked out with Walker, and made big strides to bring him in but the Packers just wouldn't do it.
He said he's going to give out the contract details later. He'll milk that to get ratings, probably until the 6:00 hour.
Revenge for 4th & 26 is finally theirs!
;)
He said the contract was 7.5 million a year.
Quote from: Philly Forever on May 01, 2006, 03:34:25 PM
He said the contract was 7.5 million a year.
That's about equal to, if not more than what TO was due to make isn't it?
Andy was on WIP and said the Pack was holding out for a 1st from us. Said they had a contract in place for Walker, but it became obvious they wanted to deal him to the AFC.
Think that last part was the sticking point, the Pack would have shipped him to us only if we outbid Denver by a somewhat sizable margin.
end of story. end of thread.