A New Politics Thread

[ice grillin you]

This story matters more than most.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/fox-news-retracts-marine-story-nicole-gee/

Sorry, I sub to WaPo.  You'll have to find your own way around the paywall.

i do too...there is this little copy and paste thing i use to get around it

[PhillyPhreak54]

That scumbag proud boy leader Biggs got 17 years.

Now hopefully they'll dig into the secret service who enabled them

[Diomedes]

I want age limits, not term limits.

Everyone is being far too deferential to McConnell and Feinstein. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

They both need to go.

No one over 65.

[Diomedes]

I'd be okay with an even higher limit...as high as 80.

This zombie senator routine, with wormtongue handlers escorting them around and holding the pen so they can sign something has got to end.

[PhillyPhreak54]

It would be a start. Get age limits enacted and then terms.

Pie in the sky is getting rid of the PACs and money but that ain't happening in any of our lifetimes

[Diomedes]

No to (congressional) term limits.  The elections are the term limits.  There's value to experience and continuity.

Term limits for the executive branch and the judiciary make more sense.

[MDS]

the deck is stacked so much toward incumbents, though. im not sure if that was considered or known when the government was set up. they didnt even have presidential term limits until fdr, but congress was never going to put itself out of a job.

its basically impossible to unseat an incumbent. most of the districts or states are uncompetitive and theres no way to amass enough money to beat an incumbent without a ton of money, which you cant obtain because the donor class is beholden to the existing rep. im not sure what the right answer is, maybe 8 years in congress and 12 in the senate. in a hypothetical functioning world. 

[Diomedes]

Oh my god thoughtful Todd is on the job
Who says the kids don't want to work?

One of the big reasons I'm not supportive of congressional term limits is that institutional knowledge and expertise is super valuable and hard to achieve...the money interests that ply Congress are not subject to high rollover resulting from term limits.  They can have decades of running their campaigns with super effective highly expert players, giving them s substantial long term strategic advantage over their opponents (Congress)

I want our reps and Senators to be around long enough to withstand these lobbies but if they get bounced every few years they'll never learn the inns and outs of any given issue, like agriculture insurance, or taxes for the trading of financial instruments, etc.

You're not wrong about the power of incumbents being a problem

[MDS]

sure, thats fair. but cant you accomplish that in 10 years in congress? do you need 20, 30? nobody becomes a politician unless they are addicted to power and fame. especially now. so these people arent just gonna give it up when they hit 65 and enjoy the grandkids at the beach house like normal folk.

get in, do your decade if the people keep electing you, then farg off to something else

[Munson]

I'm with dio for mostly everything he said. I'd be down for age limits first. Somewhere between 65-75. Absolutely no need for 80+ year olds to be running a country they don't even understand.

[MDS]

lauren boebert getting felt up and giving some guy an over the pants HJ at a performance of beetlejuice

totally normal stuff

https://t.co/zq3WmqJpKh

[PhillyPhreak54]

Family values!

If AOC did that fox would combust

[MDS]

if AOC did i would hope it was my cork she was giving an over the pants handie to

[PhillyPhreak54]

Well yeah.

She had a college vid unearthed of her dancing and was portrayed as trashy. Yet we have the vaping, handjob giving, finger shooting Bobo here and it's nbd