This Is Gonna Suck: 2016 Phillies Season Thread

[MDS]

me and odubel are like buddies now its insane

also the sun cooked me up but fun game. phils win! hooray!

[Rome]

I've see you dude. A fifty watt bulb would cause 3rd degree burns. 

[MDS]

you aint seen shtein old man

[Rome]

lol

[ice grillin you]

new BP top 50 is out and lookie at numero uno....phils also have 23, 36, 46

also kinda depressing and sickening to see how loaded the nats are...giolito would be 1 if he wasn't just called up plus they have 9, 13, 39....not fair

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=29756

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and....

keith law on espn insider just came out with his 25 best mlb'ers under 25

21. Odubel Herrera, CF
Philadelphia Phillies
2015 rank: NR (rookie)

No joke: Herrera has gone from a Rule-5 "who did they take?" guy to a legit All-Star -- he's the token Phillies All-Star this year, though he's deserving -- in about 18 months. He turned out to be a solid regular last year, a little-of-everything guy without a single carrying or clearly plus tool, but the revelation this year has been his patience: He has 43 walks (tied for eighth in the NL) after never drawing more than 52 in any full season in pro ball. Some of this was because Herrera drew almost a walk per game in April, after which he has been less patient, but even if his true talent level is 50-60 walks per season, that makes him an above-average regular without any other gains in his game. The Phillies' staff did a great job in identifying him in a crowded Rangers farm system in which he was overlooked.

22. Vince Velasquez, RHP
Philadelphia Phillies
2015 rank: NR (minor leaguer)

Velasquez has been dominant at times. He scared everyone with possible arm injuries, but lately, he has been pitching more -- not just throwing all-out but using his changeup really effectively, sitting low 90s and touching 94-95 when needed. Whether that's by design or fear of injury, it's working, and in the long term, it might help him stay on the mound, as it seems that pitchers who consistently work at the highest end of their velocity ranges get hurt more often. Velasquez appears to be at least a league-average starter for now, with the potential to be a solid No. 2.

Honorable mentions:

Aaron Nola, RHP, Phillies

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mickey moniak with his first career HR this morning

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also jailin ortiz might be the real deal

kid is now .325 7xbh 11rbi in 11 games.....bathing suit area alert

[Eagles_Legendz]

Hamels trade is incredibly promising right now.  Not going to pretend to know if Eickoff can keep this up, but he was an also-ran in the deal and has been very good.

[ice grillin you]

its been pretty amazing thruout the system thru a half season thus far its hard to find too many guys in their top 30 who have been massive on the field disappointments...off the top of my head appel and eshelman are the only ones I can think of

this game tonight might be one of those old fashioned 14-11 coors field johnsons

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I don't care if it takes him 30 ER and 200 pitches to do it they need to make Morgan go a minimum of seven tonight...then outright him forever

[Munson]

Any chance they trade Hellickson for a decent prospect at the deadline? I ahven't been paying attention to trade rumors at all

[MDS]

I don't care if it takes him 30 ER and 200 pitches to do it they need to make Morgan go a minimum of seven tonight...then outright him forever

i think they want to either make him the long man or try to loogy him....but i mean yea this also works

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http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/#g4jFgbJP5XX4dkBp.97

BA's midseason 100 just dropped:

3. jp - crawford has gotten into some bad habits at the plate but the tools are the same.
40. nick dub - benched for lack of hustle multiple times, but excelling at Triple-A when actually on the field.
62. jake - thompson lacks star potential, but he's a nearly ready to fill a back-of-the-rotation role.
67. alfaro - alfaro is starting to live up to lofty expectations as his defense is catching up to his bat
96. franklyn kilome - has more potential than current production, but there's all kind of hope for the future.

rest of division:

nats - 4, 5, 13, 48, 61 - yikes...have a loaded ml roster and all this coming....seems unfair
braves - 7, 17, 33, 77, 78, 95 - them and the phils been in a minor league system arms race the last couple of years
mets - 18, 76 - of course many of their best are playing in flushing right now
marlins - 100

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and speaking of the system mickey moniak 3-3 today and arron altherr is back with a homer and two bb