Eagles 2016 Draft

[ice grillin you]

oh ok gotcha...yeah mayock doesn't have wentz in the same galaxy as a prospect as luck but mentions some skill set similarities

again in no qb expert but I'll defer to the scouts and say it would be insane to trade all that for him

[smeags]

im pretty sure sal pal and adam have said similar things about the eagles on their draft day intentions but it turned out to be smoke screens.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Please god no first round QB

[MDS]

sal pal is the tool of tools

[ice grillin you]

mcshay is on sportscenter and says he has a late first/early second round grade on wentz

[ice grillin you]

pretty good read on wentz...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15158945/does-north-dakota-state-qb-carson-wentz-really-add-20m

[SD]

So you're onboard?

[ice grillin you]

i guess i would be ok with him at 8

[Rome]

I'd rather them take a shot at a franchise QB there that another run of the mill position guy

[ice grillin you]

I'd rather them take a shot at a franchise QB there that another run of the mill position guy

the problem with that theory is that wentz is most likely another run of the mill qb

i don't think theres any doubt that of of the guys who they legitimately could go with at 8 that wentz has the biggest downside while not having the biggest upside

i get it that because hes a qb and qb is the most important position people will put him at the top of the list....but prepare to be disappointed if they take him

[Rome]

I just meant in a general sense.  If it's close you take a QB simply because of the value of the position.  If he busts out, so be it.  We should be used to that by now anyway. 

[ice grillin you]

I definitely don't disagree with that and i would normally be the first person to jump all over the hope of getting a franchise qb....shtein i was the biggest bedwetter fan in the world from 99 to about 03....

but this year is different for me in that wentz is getting a 2-4 round grade by a lot of people...yet still I wouldn't be pissed if they took him at 8 precisely because of his position...i just would rather have someone else over the qb this time around

[Butchers Bill]

There is so much luck involved in drafting a QB, there is no point in saying "Well, this guy is a 2, and this guy is a 4."  The bottom line is if there was some magic formula for projecting a college QB into the NFL there would never be a bust outside of injury, and there wouldn't be Joe Montana's, Russell Wilson's, and Tom Brady's going as late as they did.

[ice grillin you]

theres exceptions to every rule but by and large you need to take a qb in the first round if you want to win a superbowl....shtein I think over 30% of superbowl winning qb's were taken first overall much less first round

wentz at best carries a second round grade and ive seen him valued as low as the 4th...which doesn't mean he 100% is going to flop...but if I had my choice id just rather not take a guy that lowly rated at 8

[PhillyPhreak54]

None of the top guys are franchise worthy. Not only are they not worth a top pick they're certainly not worth trading up for.