Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015

[ice grillin you]

oh well....a man can dream

[MDS]

cody asche has 6 rbis

its june 7

[ice grillin you]

franco has six hr

[MDS]

jp crawford games - 9
jp crawford walks - 8

[ice grillin you]

when does the jp crawford/franco combo start making mlb power moves

2018?

[MDS]

crawford will be up by sept 2016....its 2017 if hes a ROY type player, 2018 if not

obviously the bigs are different level but hes adapted to AA like its nothing. franco is someone who struggled at first when he got to a new level.

[ice grillin you]

2018 will be francos third full season and crawfords second....cant see them making real moves in the league as a duo before that

[MDS]

it depends who the gm is

godforbid if its still roob i see him getting desperate in 17. if they bring in someone new they will be hinkie magic patient and might wait until 19 or 20.

its way far out but carlos gomez is a 17 FA and alex cobb is an 18 FA. after 16 phillies have more money than god.

[ice grillin you]

pipe dream but hopefully they will be sold by then or at worst JSM has full control

[MDS]

they arent being sold....either middleton takes control or things stay in the shady way they are now

the good thing is something has to give. that fossil gillick is done after this year and roob's contract is up.

[ice grillin you]

i want comcast to buy them so bad

[MDS]

i just want them to hire a president from the outside....who will then hire a gm from the outside and get rid of all the old farts in the scouting department and in the front office like charlie, dallas green, gillick

[ice grillin you]

yeah thats goes without saying and by definition new ownership will accomplish that....but comcast would put them on a level with the big boys...of course you still gotta hire the right people to steer the ship but it would be a good starting point to have roberts coin behind them...and its a philly company

[MDS]

the current owners arent afraid to spend money...i dont get why that narrative still exists

spending is not an issue for this team. spending smartly certainly is.

[ice grillin you]

not sure where in my post i said they dont spend money....you are trying to hit 2006 talking points

what im saying is spending money is one thing....having yankees red sox money is another