Sam Bradford, Philadelphia Eagle

[ice grillin you]

cleveland is very happy with yesterdays dealings

[PhillyPhreak54]

But are YOU happy?

We are waiting patiently for the verdict

[SD]

If before yesterday you'd have asked him would he be happy with a 1st and 4th he'd of said of course but it's unrealistic.

[Munson]

If before yesterday you'd have asked him would he be happy with a 1st and 4th he'd of said of course but it's unrealistic.

lol so true.

So now he's gonna concentrate on the fact that Cleveland's pick from us is gonna be really really good.

[ice grillin you]

But are YOU happy?

We are waiting patiently for the verdict

im ecstatic....i just find it crazy that howie made all those offseason moves to try and win this year then basically bagged the season with yesterdays trade...its good that he took an offer he couldnt refuse and changed in mid plan but its just really weird when you think about all thats happened btwn march 1 and now

[PhillyPhreak54]

He pivoted a couple times

Signing Bradford and then Daniel he thinks that's what they'll go with. Maybe he wants to get up for Wentz but at 13 he couldn't swing it.

When Tannenbaum graciously takes Alonso and Maxwell off his hands and he gets to 8 now he's in position to move. He figured Wentz site as the third guy and realizes he will have to eat money on Bradford after he gets rid of him next year for Wentz to start.

And now the Vikes come begging for Bradford and he flips again. An offer too good to refuse. So yeah good on him for not backing away.

What I really want to know is if the Vikes hardlined their offer at a 2 and let's say a 5 does he still accept? His answers in his PC seem to suggest that he wasn't serious with them until a 1 came into the picture.

Now money that was earmarked for Sammy B can be used on signing their own guys like Bennie Logan

[ice grillin you]

money is irrelevant....bradford was always on a 1 year deal

[MDS]

true

whatever money they have freed up next year needs to go to a WR first and foremost. alshon jeffrey, anyone?

[AshishPatel81]

It's not out of the question that Wentz could be better than Bradford would have been. In recent memory, there have been rookie QBs who have came in and played well. Even guys who turned out to be not so good like Robert Griffin III. They played well in their rookie years. Sometimes young QBs have better rookie seasons than sophmore seasons because it takes time for the NFL to figure you out, and then they hit that sophmore wall before they trend upward again.

I wouldn't lay money on a QB without a preseason and coming from D1-AA outplaying Bradford, but it is no done deal that this just throws the season down the toilet either.

[Don Ho]

whatever money they have freed up next year needs to go to a WR first and foremost. alshon jeffrey, anyone?

No doubt about it.  WR and OL.  Peters health and durability are a big concern.  Hell, bring Pimp back.  Pimp is going to go off this year, contract year.  Probably go home to Cali.

[Sgt PSN]

It's not out of the question that Wentz could be better than Bradford would have been. In recent memory, there have been rookie QBs who have came in and played well. Even guys who turned out to be not so good like Robert Griffin III. They played well in their rookie years. Sometimes young QBs have better rookie seasons than sophmore seasons because it takes time for the NFL to figure you out, and then they hit that sophmore wall before they trend upward again.

I wouldn't lay money on a QB without a preseason and coming from D1-AA outplaying Bradford, but it is no done deal that this just throws the season down the toilet either.

The season was already in the toilet, even with Bradford.  They play in a weak division, so 9 wins and a Division title with Bradford wasn't an absurd prediction.  But they also have so many question marks....with overall talent, depth, and coaching....that 4 or 5 wins with Bradford wasn't an absurd prediction either.  It's hard to make any sort of logical W/L prediction because every other team in the division is also dealing with a laundry list of issues.  If the Eagles played in a division where there isn't much guess work going on with the other teams, then there'd be much less wiggle room in making a prediction. 

I'd say that with Wentz their ceiling drops a little bit but their floor remains basically the same. 

At this point, my only real hope for this season is that Wentz plays well enough to look forward to 2017 & beyond, but that he doesn't drastically over achieve like Vick did in 2010 or Foles in 2013. 

[Don Ho]

Totally agree.  Bradford is gone, we should all be happy.  FIRST ROUND PICK.  Never, ever did we see a #1 for him.  Never.  We should all be popping a bottle of bubbly right now.  9-7 was a pipe dream.  7-9, 6-10 was more realistic.  The garbage assembled at WR and not much better at RB was/is not getting this team anywhere. 

[ice grillin you]

It's not out of the question that Wentz could be better than Bradford would have been. In recent memory, there have been rookie QBs who have came in and played well. Even guys who turned out to be not so good like Robert Griffin III. They played well in their rookie years. Sometimes young QBs have better rookie seasons than sophmore seasons because it takes time for the NFL to figure you out, and then they hit that sophmore wall before they trend upward again.

I wouldn't lay money on a QB without a preseason and coming from D1-AA outplaying Bradford, but it is no done deal that this just throws the season down the toilet either.

The season was already in the toilet, even with Bradford.  They play in a weak division, so 9 wins and a Division title with Bradford wasn't an absurd prediction.  But they also have so many question marks....with overall talent, depth, and coaching....that 4 or 5 wins with Bradford wasn't an absurd prediction either.  It's hard to make any sort of logical W/L prediction because every other team in the division is also dealing with a laundry list of issues.  If the Eagles played in a division where there isn't much guess work going on with the other teams, then there'd be much less wiggle room in making a prediction. 

I'd say that with Wentz their ceiling drops a little bit but their floor remains basically the same. 

At this point, my only real hope for this season is that Wentz plays well enough to look forward to 2017 & beyond, but that he doesn't drastically over achieve like Vick did in 2010 or Foles in 2013.

people need to realize that not only did wentz play 1aa he only started for a year and a half...hes inexperienced even at the college level...im not overly bullish on his long term prognosis but i have hope....however this season he is going to be dreadfully overmatched....i wouldnt be surprised if pederson announces today that daniels is the starter...no way would i throw wentz out there in the opener coming off an injured preseason

[ice grillin you]

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/04/sam-bradford-trade-minnesota-vikings-philadelphia-eagles-nfl

[MDS]

how is wentz going to get any better with more workouts and half-speed practices against the 2s? his chance to "get ready" was the preseason and that opportunity was lost.

the season is basically a waste. let him learn on the fly. if he throws 100 interceptions, he throws 100 interceptions.