Nnamdi Maxwell, Philadelphia Eagle

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:14:32 AM

Treadwell would be fine, I guess, but that would be a second round pick and two straight first round picks on WRs which I am really not crazy about.

SD · March 10, 2016, 09:16:58 AM

Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:14:32 AM
Treadwell would be fine, I guess, but that would be a second round pick and two straight first round picks on WRs which I am really not crazy about.

Don't forget the 3rd they spent on Huff *Salt in wound*

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:17:20 AM

Ugh. Thanks for reminding me. Ass.

ice grillin you · March 10, 2016, 09:18:23 AM

their #3 wr right now might be seyi ajirotutu

their #1 is a slot wr

and their #2 was a rookie flop

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:19:29 AM

I'm not arguing with any of that. i'm just saying that there are other slots to fill. Lots of other slots. So the idea of pulling a Detroit Lions in the draft isn't my favorite.

Edit: Actually, I will argue with one point. Nelson was crap last year, but I am not ready to call him a flop yet. The offense was a mixed bag of shtein for most of the season and I'm willing to give him another year before announcing his uselessness.

ice grillin you · March 10, 2016, 09:21:50 AM

what are the "lots" of other slots...even if you want to argue that their are none are nearly as important as WR

he was a "rookie flop"...point being hes a complete unknown and is their number two right now

SD · March 10, 2016, 09:24:46 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 09:21:50 AM
what are the "lots" of other slots...even if you want to argue that their are none are nearly as important as WR

I'm assuming Guard and DB. Both of those they can address later in the draft. Especially guard. I'd love to get Stanley so he could eventually take over for Peters but they can address Tackle in later years and they can draft a Guard who's better than Tobin this season.

Treadwell makes everything work. Legit #1 WR, he'll make Agholor better and the middle of the field will open up. I think he's a no brainer pick but it won't surprise me if they go edge rusher or DB.

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:24:59 AM

The CBs are not young and not especially good.
The OL is still a mess.
They're switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 so they will need to retool the DL.

My point is that they put their eggs into the Nelson basket last year and they should at least see what they've got and build up the foundation at other positions because this team still looks like it's topping out at 6 wins to me.

ice grillin you · March 10, 2016, 09:32:56 AM

cb is not good and the only position you could argue with wr right now for ineptness...but I personally think its better than wr after yesterday...id be perfectly fine taking one in the first tho

the OL is not near a mess...no doubt they need depth and lots of it plus a replacement for peters next year but its not nearly as weak as wr right now...again I wouldn't hate a lineman in the first but depth there can be addressed thruout the draft whereas you aint getting a starting caliber wr in the third round

reason they sucked so bad in a 3-4 is because they had mostly 4-3 players in the front seven....they are set there now with the switch back to 4-3

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:39:10 AM

I don't know how you can say that the OL isn't a mess. Peters might not last the preseason and if/when he goes down that unit will be in shambles. Sure depth can be addressed via late picks and UDFAs but they don't even have a reliable starting 5.

ice grillin you · March 10, 2016, 09:40:17 AM

i should mention before people come back and start mentioning something like depth on the DL that im talking strictly from a first round pick perspective when analyzing their positions right now

you also have to factor in that they are trying to win now...so imo the first round pick should be expected to move right into a starting position and be a significant difference maker and right now wr and cb are the only positions where that can happen...while i would understand for example taking a tackle in the first round i just don't think that's nearly as important for this season

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:40:58 AM

They aren't winning right now, so I guess our perspectives are a little different.

ice grillin you · March 10, 2016, 09:45:04 AM

Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:39:10 AM
I don't know how you can say that the OL isn't a mess. Peters might not last the preseason and if/when he goes down that unit will be in shambles. Sure depth can be addressed via late picks and UDFAs but they don't even have a reliable starting 5.

peters also might last the whole season....then you have your #1 pick on the bench for most of the season and josh huff and/or seyi starting at wr

id much rather use my 3rds and 4ths for back up lineman that can cover injury than go into the season with shtein at every single wr spot

on paper the starting OL is fine...on paper WR is a complete disaster

rjs246 · March 10, 2016, 09:55:46 AM

You really are thinking that they'll be competitive this year, and therefore caring about what the roster looks like this season. That's surprising to me.

SD · March 10, 2016, 09:59:35 AM

Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2016, 09:55:46 AM
You really are thinking that they'll be competitive this year, and therefore caring about what the roster looks like this season. That's surprising to me.

Logically no, but the NFL is a strange place. None of us thought they'd be competitive Chips first season and they were.

Didn't know Okung was an FA. I'm sure he ultimately stays with Seattle but if they could get him and release Peters I wouldn't hate that move.