Rest Of Baseball - 2015

[PhillyPhreak54]

Yeah exactly.

I'm just talking shtein.

I mean if you and lil guy wanna love the fact a .290/13/60 dude gets $24m go right ahead.

I think it's a huge overpay and I like seeing the fraud ass Cards fans whine.

he was 15th in war last year...in all of baseball

For the first time in my life I looked up your silly God stat

Mookie Betts was 20th...prob should buy out his arb years for a $150m deal eh?

Ender Inciarte was 27th...cake him off now!

[PhillyPhreak54]

Part of that's just baseball economics, Phreak.  I'm not sure I believe he's elite, either, but he is probably the best OF on the market.  And, like Igy said, he's young.

Of course, that baseball (and sports) economy is also pricing out a large percentage of the fanbase, but the millionaire players and billionaire owners don't really care about that, as long as they get theirs.

I agree and the money is getting silly. By this scale Trout is going to get half a bil!

Heyward is a good player. I have a problem placing him in the top tier of elite players and when a contract of such value is given to a player I feel he should be elite.

[MDS]

im not talking about stats.....his back of the baseball card stats, which nobody associated with the game values, are one thing and his advanced metrics are another.

im talking about his actual baseball skill. explain. also still looking for a philly rival player you like but ill take 1 thing at a time

[ice grillin you]

his war is skewed by some over valued defensive numbers but hes still probably the number one or two or third best defensive outfielder in the game and is a really efficient offensive player

did i also mention hes 26?

he should get better while salaries over the next eight years will lap his deal maybe two time

im not saying right here right now he isnt overpaid...but jesus its an eight year deal....and theres much more chance down the road that its a complete steal than it is throwing away money

[Sgt PSN]

His contract is pretty much on par with his value/production, imo.  In sports in general, but especially in baseball, you're almost never going to get even return value on any individual contract. Maybe you do for a portion of the contact, if you're lucky, but that's about it.  Young players might exceed their salary for 4 or 5 years. Then they become free agents and sign mega deals that they likely won't live up to.

This is the economics of sports these days. Contacts have far less to do with on field value and more to do with how much teams have available to spend. These are multi-billion dollar leagues, so the money has to go somewhere. Might as well go to the players instead of the owners.

[QB Eagles]

Also, it's not like there's just one number he's worth to all teams. The Cubs have a cheap young core that he fits into perfectly. I wouldn't have been super pissed if the Phillies got Heyward for that money, but the team has a lot of other things it could use the money for, and it has to be significantly more careful with expensive long term commitments. For the Cubs, this deal is pretty great. You have to be willing to overspend in a couple of areas to assemble a team that could be playoff caliber for an extended period of time like they are set up for.

[Sgt PSN]

There's that, too. Each team is going to value a guy differently. Obviously, for a team like the Phillies that isn't closer to being a contender, you don't throw that kind of money at him. But if you're the Cubs and are not only a contender, but your team basically prints money and you're also trying to get rid of a 100+ year old hex, then you do it. If they win just 1 WS, they could have paid him 180billion and if would still be worth it for them. (slight hyperbole)

[BigEd76]

Cueto to SF....6/$130M

Their rotation is now Bumgarner/Cueto/Samardzija/Cain/Peavy

[Sgt PSN]

Good thing KC took 1 of 2 because good  baseball players are expensive as farg and the Royals just don't have the bank roll to keep guys if big market teams really want them.

[MDS]

based on the tabulation of the revealed ballots, trevor hoffman wont be getting in the hof this year

what

[PhillyPhreak54]

People of your ilk! Your sportswriter colleagues!

I am waiting to see which dope decides to no include Mariano Rivera on his ballot

[QB Eagles]

lol

Can't wait to see how many vote against Griffey.

[PhillyPhreak54]

The answer to that is three.

Three "sports" writers didn't have Griffey on their ballot. He was at 437/440

Highest % ever though.

It's just him and Piazza

[Rome]

Tim Raines is gaining ground.  He should make it next year and so will Bagwell & Hoffmann.

[MDS]

i dont know why people are drawing a line at bonds, mcgwire and clemens but relented on piazza and will soon on bags

either it is or it isnt