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[PhillyPhreak54]

Maclin got his $11M per season from KC -- Schefter just said it

[rjs246]

Just checking in to say that I am completely off of the Chip Kelly bandwagon. What in the farg is this team doing? Letting offensive weapons go might be alright if they were going to have a stacked draft, but since all signs point to selling the farm for MM and since Riley farging Cooper is still in line to get reps and since the starting RB is now Frank farging Gore I am not farging impressed.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Yeah I cannot wait to hear his rationalization on this craziness

[hbionic]

I have a feeling he's going to resign once Mariota is drafted by another team.

[ice grillin you]

Just checking in to say that I am completely off of the Chip Kelly bandwagon. What in the farg is this team doing? Letting offensive weapons go might be alright if they were going to have a stacked draft, but since all signs point to selling the farm for MM and since Riley farging Cooper is still in line to get reps and since the starting RB is now Frank farging Gore I am not farging impressed.

in no way am I defending chip...this is what happens when you put a college coach in charge of an entire nfl football organization...ive said this from day one that he doesn't really know what hes doing

but to play devils advocate what signs point to him trading for mm?...other than that he went to Oregon...has tampa even said they like Winston better than mm?....have the other 30 teams in the league said they are just going to step aside and let this new jack who was an offensive coordinator at new Hampshire when frank gore was drafted just strut in and grab his franchise qb?...how do we know the jets don't love mm more than chip does?

also this draft is loaded at wr...and the key to any mm trade if it happens and I would be shocked if it does is not so much draft picks altho they are obviously going to be required but the whole thing imo hinges on the jets love of nick foles....foles is the crucial part of this because one it justifies the jets or any other team to give up on taking mm and also because it would lessen the haul of draft picks the eagles have to give up...so maybe you see a trade of foles 20, 2016 1, 2, 3...or some combination of picks that doesn't gut this years draft

anyway I was on the doubt chip train before anyone so I understand where you are coming around too...but thts big picture for me...just taking this offseason in a vacuum I don't yet see the catastrophe here...I mean because Jeremy macklin left all is lost?...what else has really happened?

[SD]

We should probably wait till free agency officially starts and maybe after the draft before we start calling this a disaster. Not saying it it won't be but free agency hasn't even started yet.

[Seabiscuit36]

Have to agree.  I really have no clue about Maxwell, and am just hoping he's better than the trash we had before.  All in all, I'm just hoping that the Defense isnt a bleeding vadge this year, and the offense can again rely on the plug and play.  RB wise, Gore and Polk are similar runners, I think Polk ends up the feature back unless they get someone in the draft.  Not sure if thats a good thing.  Sproles will get his touches and wr wise, Cooper is still on the team so i'm worried. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 2m2 minutes ago

Am told Eagles were hovering just below $10M per year on Maclin, with KC moving to $11M range, enough to make move.

[Eagles_Legendz]

At this point I'm on board with shipping kkk to space in a rocket and bringing in a veteran WR like Johnson for a year and picking another one high.   Crabtree is talented but seems like a nutjob.  Same with Harvin.  Wayne seems done to me.   AJ would be the mix where he probably has one - two average/above average years left to bide time to get a young WR up to speed. 

Do not want Cooper/Huff/Matthews.  Dreck.  Also have seen no indication that Huff is anything more than a utility guy good for 5 plays a game.  Penciling him in for real PT can only be acceptable if viewed through Nike glasses.  Say what you want about Maclin but he's much much better than any of them.

[rjs246]

Just checking in to say that I am completely off of the Chip Kelly bandwagon. What in the farg is this team doing? Letting offensive weapons go might be alright if they were going to have a stacked draft, but since all signs point to selling the farm for MM and since Riley farging Cooper is still in line to get reps and since the starting RB is now Frank farging Gore I am not farging impressed.

in no way am I defending chip...this is what happens when you put a college coach in charge of an entire nfl football organization...ive said this from day one that he doesn't really know what hes doing

but to play devils advocate what signs point to him trading for mm?...other than that he went to Oregon...has tampa even said they like Winston better than mm?....have the other 30 teams in the league said they are just going to step aside and let this new jack who was an offensive coordinator at new Hampshire when frank gore was drafted just strut in and grab his franchise qb?...how do we know the jets don't love mm more than chip does?

also this draft is loaded at wr...and the key to any mm trade if it happens and I would be shocked if it does is not so much draft picks altho they are obviously going to be required but the whole thing imo hinges on the jets love of nick foles....foles is the crucial part of this because one it justifies the jets or any other team to give up on taking mm and also because it would lessen the haul of draft picks the eagles have to give up...so maybe you see a trade of foles 20, 2016 1, 2, 3...or some combination of picks that doesn't gut this years draft

anyway I was on the doubt chip train before anyone so I understand where you are coming around too...but thts big picture for me...just taking this offseason in a vacuum I don't yet see the catastrophe here...I mean because Jeremy macklin left all is lost?...what else has really happened?

The combination of trading Shady for a double knee Oregon LB, letting Maclin walk, Cooper's extension, Gore's signing, Huff being on the team and the MM nonsense whether or not it comes to fruition, this offseason just reeks of a 12 year old playing a season of Madden with his finger hovering over the reset button in case his goofy roster moves don't pan out.

[ice grillin you]

mack is a double kneed wr and its march 9

cant argue that it sure seems like chip is playing fantasy football but im still gonna let it play out and nothing that's happened so far has been catastrophic and in fact if you believe that mack is going to be properly replaced id give it an solid B so far

[PhillyPhreak54]

Voice of Reason igy!

So how do you guys feel about Marcus Gilchrist?

[rjs246]

I understand the perspective but there is a rather large caveat in there. Believing that Maclin will be properly replaced. I don't think a rookie can step in and replicate his production immediately. Signing a stop-gap, aging WR place-holder seems ridiculous when they had a perfectly capable dude on the roster already. It all just seems unnecessary.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Stephen A chimes in

"Chip Kelly makes decisions over the last couple of years that dare I say leave a few brothas feeling uncomfortable. I think that's fair to say. We're sitting here looking at some of the decisions that Chip Kelly makes and I'm like what is up ... what's up with that?

It's like you gotta be his kinda guy, you know? And when Riley Cooper's your kind of guy...

Let's get beyond the system though, the operative word is culture. The culture is what resonates with me more profoundly because I'm looking at Chip Kelly and I'm like ... really?

I mean, this is Philadelphia. I'm always in Philly, and I'm telling you right now you got people walking the streets and and and ... hell with it ... you got brothas walking the streets going like 'What's up with Chip? I don't understand this.'

Now I'm not saying I know, I'm just gonna say that it does strike me as a tad bit odd. I'm gonna repeat this. Gone: LeSean McCoy, Jeremy Maclin, ya know, DeSean Jackson. Staying: Riley Cooper."

[SD]

I understand the perspective but there is a rather large caveat in there. Believing that Maclin will be properly replaced. I don't think a rookie can step in and replicate his production immediately. Signing a stop-gap, aging WR place-holder seems ridiculous when they had a perfectly capable dude on the roster already. It all just seems unnecessary.

I wanted Maclin back, he's not worth $11 million per year. He's not worth $9 million per year either but I would have been fine with that. A stop gap Veteran receiver can fill in fine. Maclin came back from an acl tear and did well his first season in the new system. I don't see why another experienced WR can't have similar success.

If they go into the season with what they have now at WR that's when I'll jump on the rjs miserable attitude refreshing train.